Those Moderate Muslims!

Via FFoF;

According to Nasser, the very first demand of the Brotherhood leader was for the hijab to return to Egypt, “for every woman walking in the street to wear a headscarf.”
The audience erupted in laughter at this, then, ludicrous demand; one person hollered “Let him wear it!” eliciting more laughter and applause.

The rest is here.

41 Replies to “Those Moderate Muslims!”

  1. I tried to comment at the link,FFF,but it said “comments are closed”.
    “And the West let it happen.”
    Wasn’t much we COULD do,osumashi,and even if there was, we,(the USA), don’t have that type of leadership any more.
    Arab Spring?

  2. and we are both aiding and abetting the practice here…sooner than later, I fear that it will be a requirement for women entering certain parts of towns or more especially, any islamic owned business establishments, or even places muslims frequent, in many more areas to have to don hijabs or other headcoverings.
    This will start as a ‘cultural respect’ driven by liebrals who don’t know what they’re doing, but very soon it will be a requirement with no exceptions..police, ambulance attendants, social workers, firefighters, all will have to wear the headscarf or be denied entrance and as it inevitably escalates, face physical attacks from the islamic ‘men’ who will be protecting the faith…it happens in France and other non-islamic (so far) countries and it WILL happen here.
    The day is coming and the moonbats brought it on, I only welcome the first report of a female ndp MP that gets beaten for not dressing properly. Then and only then will we see what they’ve unleashed and whether they still want to promote it.

  3. The most relevant point is that societies can regress back to previous incarnations, back to tribal so to speak.
    That includes ours.
    The biggest concern in democracy like Egypt is that is becomes one man, one vote, one time.

  4. I can’t help but wonder if the same thing sprayed around churches and christian villages would keep islamists from blowing them up or opening fire on worshippers ?
    LONDON — It is a crime-fighting tactic that’s not to be sniffed at. An English council says it stopped teenagers congregating in woodland by spraying the area with pig manure.
    Middlesbrough Council, in northeastern England, said Wednesday it had spread the dung over a stretch of land in Coulby Newham after residents complained of gangs of young people gathering to drink and take drugs.
    Officials said they adopted the unusual tactic after a search uncovered drug-related paraphernalia hidden in the woodland.
    The policy has led to a sharp decline in crime in the area.
    In a statement, the council said that residents were untroubled by “a slight whiff … they would much rather have a pong than a bong.”

  5. DMorris, I think our failure in the West to ensure cultural or political values remain untouched relates, even tangentially, to how we see and react to what occurs overseas. The “Arab Spring” brought as much freedom and stability to Egypt et al as gasoline brings quenching to a fire. Our naivety and inability to act has not helped a bad situation become a worse one. Obama is no friend to the US or anywhere else in the world. If he was, the Muslim Brotherhood might be worried about what he would do to them.

  6. PS: it says “comments are closed” but in fact I don’t permit comments at my blog. I can’t get my wordpress theme to say it differently — it’s nothing personal, dmorris!

  7. and they’re getting help from so many places…
    Ron Paul Tells Iowa Voters Sanctions Against Iran Are An “Act of War,” Says Mullahs Need Nuclear Weapons To “Gain Respect” From Israel
    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-ron-paul-sanctions-act-of-war20111229,0,4395532.story
    (LA Times) — Defending himself against charges of isolationism, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul told voters in Iowa on Thursday that western sanctions against Iran are “acts of war” that are likely to lead to an actual war in the Middle East.
    Paul, one of the leading contenders to win next week’s Iowa caucuses, said Iran would be justified in responding to the sanctions by blocking the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz. He compared the western sanctions to a hypothetical move by China to block the Gulf of Mexico, which Americans would consider an act of war.
    He also said he would not respond militarily to keep the strait open — because he would not consider it an act of war against the U.S. But if he were president, he would report to Congress on the issue, leaving it up to lawmakers to declare war if they wanted.
    “I think we’re looking for trouble because we put these horrendous sanctions on Iran,” Paul told a midday audience at the Hotel Pattee in Perry, Iowa. He said the Iranians are “planning to be bombed” and understandably would like to have a nuclear weapon, even though there is “no evidence whatsoever” that they have “enriched” uranium.
    Apparently alluding to Israel and its nuclear-weapons arsenal, Paul said that “if I were an Iranian, I’d like to have a nuclear weapon, too, because you gain respect from them.”

  8. A link to the pictures of that graduting class of ’59, next to a picture would be great. I’ve seen it, and it demonstrates the regression.

  9. Shaidle’s analysis is, unsurprisingly, cartoonishly simplistic. It’s not ‘cultural liberalism’ when you have a non-Islamist dictatorship in charge that funds anti-semitism and doesn’t enshrine women’s rights, it’s just non-Islamism. The current troubles are really Mubarak’s fault. There is not much anybody can do about it except end foreign aid to Egypt and open up trade with them.

  10. That regression thing is for real for real….
    A coupla decades or so ago, I visited Turkey and it closely resembled Greece fashion-wise….those wearing face-coverings were jerred as primitive…. Last year during a trip to Ankara, it seemed to me to be something more resembling Saudi Arabia….but bare headed, bare faced women were frowned upon…regardless of nationality…..Iran redux……

  11. It was Nasser and the remnants of British colonial rule that was the anomaly. The normal condition of the Islamic wastelands is the Seventh century. The return is almost complete. You can have modern civilization or you can have Islamic theocracy. You can’t have both.
    Green theocracy isn’t working out well for western civilization either!

  12. Call me cold, call me a Neocon but frankly I just don’t care anymore. The genocide in Darfur over looked by Liberal Media was the final straw for me, as long as China and Russia and France can steal Africian resources Liberal Media is silent once a hair is harmed on the head of MEasterner Islamofacists is harmed they get frothy at the mouth.

  13. The western Liberal left is dancing on Egypt’s newly found oppression of their making. What the hell if it ultimately destroys those “pigs and dogs in Israel”, it must have been worth a few thousand Christians and a new century of brutality against women, yes?
    Oh and let’s not forget the few self proclaimed “conservatives” who thought they were better informed than everyone else.
    Some good Christmas 2011 pictures of the wonderful Arab Spring so many wished for:
    http://www.djmick.co.uk/life/in-pictures-egyptian-police-brutally-beat-woman-protester/
    And in video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua2y11BMxw

  14. is he aware that ahmanutjob wants to wipe israel off the map?
    Posted by: Harry at December 29, 2011 6:38 PM
    If you mean Ron Paul, yes he is. And he’s good with it. He believes that Israel doesn’t have a “right to exist”; that the US should not have fought WWII to “save the Jews” [which wasn’t even tangentially related to the US entry] and that all of Israel should go to the Arabs. Paul believes that all US problems with the ME are related to it’s iffy friendship with Israel and that Israel isn’t worth the bother. In Paul’s mind (sic) were Israel to disappear, so would all the friction between the West and the ME, whereas we smarter folk know that it would engender Islamic triumphalism and a dramatic elevation of the jihad threat.

  15. Mrs. Nasser was a hotty. I wouldn’t put her in a sack. The whole control of women is by threat of physical violence or death and even Muslim women pretend they don’t believe it.

  16. More MSM obfiscation. From what reports I receive about Ron Paul about the only entity that lables him right wing is the leftist MSM….
    Not just on matters of foreign afairs but many domestic issues, his opinions place him securely to the left of buckwheat….IOW an ultra lefty.
    Life is what happens….
    I recall noting that back in the 70’s the leaders of the west were for the most part mature while the USSR, the Chicoms, N Viet Nam, the NORKs were all ruled by octogenarians…..Now in the US you see Pelossi, Reed, Paul and Gingrich…….
    “Every Nation Has The Government It Deserves.”
    Joseph de Maishe(1753-1821)
    When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means the sun is about to set…….
    Lin Yutang

  17. Me No Dhimmi >
    To be blunt, who really gives a rats @ss about Israel?
    Indeed I would prefer Israel around than any Islamic Arab country, but at the end of the day Israel can look after themselves without our “help”, and could wipe any Arab nation off the face of the map if they wanted to. Jews/ Israeli’s are smart people, they’ll work it out. It’s not our problem, any more than Hutu’s and Tutsis were our problem, or Sunni and Shiite issues are our problem.
    We need to worry more about our problems and just tell the rest of the world to go f*ck themselves. At the end of the day, we have what they want not the other way around.
    Israel has a right to exist, and so do we, there’s nothing wrong with supporting each other, but we don’t owe them anything.

  18. there’s the only kind of ‘moderate’ you’ll find in islam…they let him live…which is surprising in itself and they’ll likely be punished for that.
    (Catholic Culture) — Umar Mulinde, a Protestant leader and former sheik who converted to Christianity from Islam, suffered severe burns following a Christmas Eve acid attack near Kampala, Uganda’s capital.
    “I heard [a man] say in a loud voice, ‘Pastor, pastor,’ and as I made a turn and looked at him, he poured the liquid onto my face as others poured more liquid on my back and then fled away shouting, ‘Allahu akbar’ [Allah is greater],’” Mulinde recounted.
    The nation of 34.6 million is 44% Catholic, according to Vatican statistics; an estimated 42% of Ugandans are Protestant, and 12% are Muslim.

  19. LibertariansAreSmugger:
    I didn’t use the phrase “cultural liberalism” anywhere.
    If Steyn did, it’s because “cultural liberalism” believes progress only goes in one direction: that is, the “correct” one.
    Egypt is proof that “progress” sometimes goes backwards, the Western cheerleaders of the “Arab spring” notwithstanding.
    Another snotty “libertarian” doing wonders for his cause’s reputation…

  20. My point Shaidle was that Egypt was never really liberal just its intellectuals. That was all veneer.
    MND: you’re imbibing a lot of BS about Ron Paul alongside the legitimate concerns. There is no substantial evidence RP wants Israel to end.
    Whoever said RP is on the left is on drugs or needs to be.

  21. Smarter>
    “Whoever said RP is on the left is on drugs or needs to be.”
    I think that’s the second comment of yours I agree with in 2011.
    You know a “Lefty” by the measure of how much they want to stick their noses in someone else’s business and not so much their own affairs. Like with Egypt and the “Arab Spring”.

  22. I had to wait until certain Molson brand sedatives kicked in before I could comment.
    I went to a curry restaurant the other day, the lady cooking was grateful to the point of tears to get respect from a Canadian man.
    That’s what we do.
    The men over there HATE women, think they are the master race because they have a twig and berries between their legs.
    Jerks.
    [d]

  23. Heaven forbid you should ever think of defending yourself from islamic terror…that gets you labelled as a ‘vigilante’ in the media…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16350635
    Nigeria Christians ‘to defend churches from Boko Haram’
    Nigerian Christians will have “no other option” but to defend themselves if attacks by Islamist militants continue, church leaders have said.
    The Christian Association of Nigeria said the Boko Haram group had declared war with its recent violence.
    More than 40 people were killed in attacks on churches in northern and central areas on Christmas Day.
    Since then, some 90,000 people have fled their homes amid clashes between Boko Haram and police in Damaturu.
    Earlier on Wednesday, six children and an adult were injured when a homemade bomb was thrown into an Islamic school in the southern Delta state.
    A police spokesman said the bomb had been thrown from a moving car – it was not clear who was behind the attack, which has raised fears of retaliatory vigilante strikes….
    …”The consensus is that the Christian community nationwide will be left with no other option than to respond appropriately if there are any further attacks on our members, churches and property,” said the leader of the Christian Association of Nigeria, an umbrella group of the country’s churches….
    …He said the attacks were “considered as a declaration of war on Christians and Nigeria as an entity,” and that while he did not want to encourage acts of revenge, “Christians should protect themselves… in any way they can”….
    …On Tuesday, Nigeria’s main Muslim cleric, the Sultan of Sokoto, denounced the Christmas Day attacks and called for calm.
    “I want to assure all Nigerians that there is no conflict between Muslims and Christians, between Islam and Christianity,” said Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar.
    Boko Haram, which denies reports it has links to al-Qaeda, has said it carried out the Christmas Day attacks.
    Last week, its militants were involved in heavy gun battles with government troops in the north-eastern city of Dam…

  24. Bemused @ 5:10 PM: “very soon it will be a requirement with no exceptions…police, ambulance attendants, social workers, firefighters, all will have to wear the headscarf or be denied entrance …”
    Fine, then fires won’t be put out, Muslims who insist on headscarves won’t have ambulance service, etc. They’ll have to take care of themselves rather than rely on our beneficence.
    If I were required to don a headscarf to enter a store, I simply wouldn’t shop there. In fact, wherever I see “Halal” in a shop window, I make a mental note never to buy anything there. A lot of Shawarma joints advertise Halal, so I eat somewhere else.

  25. Just so you know…a great deal of the meat sold anywhere in the country is now halal, it just isn’t advertised as such because many people might say something so they’re just not told. I kind of prefer pork anyway.

  26. oh, those zany kids and their antics.
    (Al-Masry Al-Youm) — Dozens of residents of the village of Baheeg in Assiut, Upper Egypt, burnt three houses owned by a Christian family after a Christian villager allegedly published cartoons mocking Islam on his Facebook account.
    A number of Muslim students attacked their Coptic classmate for posting the cartoons, a Muslim student told Al-Masry Al-Youm.
    The Muslim students attacked the Coptic student on Thursday at Monqebad Secondary School in Assiut. Eyewitnesses said the military intervened to break up the fight and escorted the Coptic youth and his family away from the village. Later, Muslim villagers set fire to the family’s houses.
    Firefighters extinguished the blaze and armed forces and police imposed a security cordon around the site of the incident.

  27. but terrorism IS profitable…even if it’s stolen ‘aid’ money from the very western coutries he rails against and wants to overthrow…but you can bet that he knows if it does happen, his income will dry up…what a quandry for an islamic fundamentalist…
    (Ynet) — Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah is worth some $250 million, a Saudi newspaper reported recently, quoting American intelligence officials.
    According to the report, the fortune of Nasrallah’s deputy, Sheikh Naim Qassem, and other senior organization members amounts to as much as $2 billion.
    The anonymous intelligence sources believe the funds have been deposited in hundreds of bank accounts across the world, including in Europe, using fabricated or fake names.
    Two Western sources are quoted as saying that the Hezbollah leaders from time to time channel millions of dollars from their bank accounts or their wives’ bank accounts to senior members of the Revolutionary Guards in Iran, who are responsible for transferring money to the Shiite organization from the office of Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
    According to the report, Iranian parliament members are aware of this corruption, are unhappy with it but are avoiding discussing it.

  28. libertariansaresmarter?
    There ARE left-libertarians.
    Are you not aware of the link between the NEW left and libertarians.
    Uber libertarian Murray Rothbard was once a NEW leftist.
    If I’m not mistaken, Naom Chomsky describes himself as a left-libertarian, or is it, socialist libertarian.
    Ron Paul is a dangerous islam-appeasing blame-america crank. And true leftist here!
    That his views on monetary matters coincide with mine matters not one whit.
    He is a man of LOW character and he has zero leadership qualities.
    I am deeply concerned about the danger to libertarianism that Ron Paul represents as evidenced by many of Kathy Shaidle’s anti-libertarian remarks.
    Lou Rockwell is NUTS.
    Despite being a libertarian since my early 30s, I’m starting to wonder if libertarianism is as delusional as marxism.

  29. You know what? You’re right about Rothbard and Rockwell. I, and many other libertarians, kind of hate their guts. Naom Chomsky can call himself whatever he wants.
    Ron Paul is not a ‘leftist’ in the least. His whole economic policy is pure free-market. His foreign policy is wrong, but so are his opponents-to teh extent that they have a foreign policy beyond ‘me tuff me spend even more on bloated US military!1’. At least Ron Paul’s wrong foreign policy is cheap, and right in some crucial areas like NOT continuing to be a paying UN member.

  30. “At least Ron Paul’s wrong foreign policy is cheap,”
    So is skipping oil changes. For a while, anyway…
    Going to be hard to fight a nuclear armed Unified Caliphate if you cancel all the jet planes and ships and whatnot, and even harder if we have no allies in the area because we let ’em nuke Israel. Just sayin’.

  31. A diamond unicorn would also be hard to kill but that’s about as likely as either a reborn caliphate or America running out of war stuff.

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