Do you think the parents of these two bozos ever told them no? Ever told them, “that’s wrong”? Ever told them, “you must wait”? Ever told them, “you’re going to have to work to earn that”? Ever told them, “your future depends on what you make of it”? Probably not. 🙁
Update: The blonde haired fellow in the 2nd video is none other than Edward T. Hall, III, a trust fund child whose parents are “two politically active lawyers”. – h/t Oz
I couldn’t watch. Aghh. The second one, from the five seconds I put myself through, looks like he needs a Glasgow kiss and then a six month course of Zanax or something stronger. FREAK SHOW.
I can’t watch that crap either. And it looks like I won’t be able to watch the news for the foreseeable future either, because THAT’S ALL THAT’S ON THE TV…
I’m guessing the second clip featured a fellow whose Mommy had forgotten to see that he took his Ritalin that morning.
Maybe she was too busy.
But it’s her fault.
OMG, all of the USA’s water cannons are broken.
The second one is Edward T. Hall III, trustfund grandchild.
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/opposite-sides-of-the-protest-come-together-briefly/
http://www.theawl.com/2011/02/an-qa-with-ted-hall-the-jfk-baggage-carousel-jumper
That crying jag he does is one of his acting ‘talents’.
So, any reports from our local Canadian whine festivals yet? Seeing as we already have universal healthcare, high taxes, and lax immigration laws, I’m wondering what they’ll have to scream for. Free university education? Subsidized housing for all? A pony?
Spare the rod and spoil the child.
The second whackjob is apparenty an OWS organizer:
http://www.therightsphere.com/2011/10/now-famous-freak-out-video-turns-out-to-be-a-fraud/
Meanwhile, the unwashed hippies are gathering in downtown Toronto as I type. I’m working today (sixth day this week, correcting the mistakes made by an underling who is able to keep her job simply because she is a she) near Highway 400 and 7. And I can smell the unwashed freaks from here.
Sigh.
after watching the Pay my Education clip, Next one up in list was Self Proclaimed Maoist
dressed in Communist China attire, With Chinese flag.
He/She was complaining his/her employer did not understand his/hers rights for a sex change thing, But Mao would understand him/her, Interviewer tries to explain Millions murdered under Mao, Then a Many colored Hempist jumps in to explain thats where it turns weird.
anyways something like that, Its worth a laugh.
I hope these dudes/dudess/whatever didnt sign away any royalties as iam sure that vid will show up on late nite shows.
Oh btw Syd Ryan was interviwed on ctv at the protest. clip is up at ctv.ca amongst all the other occupy toronto clips
Kudos to the reporter for not cracking a smile here. One minute in, she deserves to be the face of the protests….bet she wont be seen again as the non leaders move to prevent here from being seen again.
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/occupy-spreads/#clip550330
Now I almost laughed as hard at the organizer when you you listen to the spew of left wing feel good wooliheadedness.
By the way, can anyone identify the metal equipment the guy is carrying on his backpack. Bet you less than 1% of the people in the world can afford that.
Just one question.
Was that a girl or a guy?
Re the two bozos and their fellow bozos across the US, Canada and Europe. That is it then…there appears to be a concerted effort to create a revolution by those with insatiable appetites of living off of the public teat and the Marxists behind the scenes.
If they persist and get their way they will ultimately not get the “social justice” they think they want, but the “social justice” that the people in the Soviet Union had.
Why aren’t the protesting in front of universities, as they are the ones who have raised tuition. And, if this idiot gets his tuition paid, gets a good, high paying job, will he want to pay the tuition of less fortunate people.
I notices his teeth, looks like he has had good dental care, paid for by someone.
What would the result be if all those 1%ers quit giving money for scholarships etc.
In addition to Lickmuffin’s pointing out the fraudster in video #2, the individual in that video could easily be a poster boy for sociopaths and socialists the world over.
http://tv.breitbart.com/occupywallst-poster-boy-a-trust-fund-baby-attempted-stowaway-at-jfk/
Both the videos make me cringe and I too cannot last but a few seconds as I see these humans reduce themselves to the absolute lowest common denominator.
Last night I suffered through the CTV news…featuring a breathless announcement that this “movement” was coming to Canada…
It’s like they can hardy wait….
There is a preceedent to this…
During the depression, work camps were established to care, feed, shelter the unemployed…mostly in the West.
Agitators got these sheeple to board trains, in numbers the railway Police could not cope with, the intent being a “march on Ottawa”.
The largely unorganized movement got as far as Winnipeg when they were disbursed by Police/Army.
The government of the day elected to have the inevitable confrontation/riot in far away Winterpeg rather than urban Ontario or Ottawa.
I find it rather curious that the Cnadian and American media (both part of the corporate world these idiots are protesting) should spend as much time as they do giving these idiots free press. Am I missing something?
Anyway, I couldn’t watch more than 15 seconds of the second video, either.
these people need help with their suicides.
Mike in White Rock
All the news people talk about is “corporate greed”. What about union greed, welfare greed, and greed in general?
Of course the unions will try to tell you that they’re not greedy. Hell no, they just use greed to manipulate those who don’t recognise their own greedy nature. Saying if you can’t have one then no one can or insisting that everyone must have one; that’s still greed.
Since the news people are unionised of course they won’t mention their own greed.
Is Jim Flaherty a poster boy of the Hyper-Entitlement generation?
“Jim Flaherty Cool with Occupy Wall Street”
>>>>”Anti-corporate demonstrators in New York got a sympathetic nod on Thursday from Canada’s chief money man, Jim Flaherty, who said he understood their “legitimate frustrations.”
“I can understand some legitimate frustration arising” out of high unemployment and an increasingly unequal distribution of incomes, Flaherty said.
He noted that Canada’s progressive income tax system, where higher incomes are taxed at increasingly higher rates, somewhat hinders such wealth disparities.”
http://tinyurl.com/5rd5vzk
Thank you for your input Jimbo
I thought we pay good money for riot police and equip them the latest greatest tactical gear!
Enough already. We need some proper mental institutions and supporting laws to keep these people off public streets. OR ship them to Quebec where they will be openly welcomed, then grant separation and build an Israeli style border fence around it.
It’ll be much cheaper in the long run.
Just another couple of confused turds who love to yell about things that they know not.
I spent a few minutes watching some coverage of ‘Occupy Toronto’. Pretty funny stuff actually. They used all the modern technology available to mankind (designed and manufactured by corporations, but I digress) to get the largest group of sympathizers possible into the downtown core. Then they all stood around and looked at each other as if to say “okay, now what?”. It’s a total farce.
Profound difference in the reporting of the Occupy group and the Tea Party, is there not? The start of every report (consensus media/repeaters not reporters…) is how diverse the group is, then they try to normalize it by saying there’s single moms, students, people of all walks of life. That is never reported when a story on the Tea Party comes on. A typical story on the Tea Party has a reporter search out someone from the fringe and basically report “See? Racist!!”. Never do they do the same with the Occupy group which is a feat alone considering they’re surrounded by the fringe.
I’m sure that their profs are very proud of them.
This is what “Higher Education” has brought us.
Stupidity with a degree.
Sasquatch: You lived during the depression then and can speak of its misery first-hand?
Nothing new. When I was at the University of Montana in the 90s there was one dude who attended every protest, every drum circle, etc. and alway spouting the same old Marxist crap. A friend told me the guy was 32 or so, had never had a job and lived off a trust fund. What is it about trust fundies? Is it that they can stay divorced from reality?
The saddest thing I saw though was when the school newspaper voted a local guy, complete with a two page story, the activist of the year. The guy( thirty-something) literally lived in his mother’s basement and totally sponged off his mother and grandmother, although occasionally he would sell one of his collectors edition comic books for spending money. This was all in article about him and it was so weird I thought it had to be satire or a parody but no, they were serious. To this day I can’t believe those kids who wrote that article were so blind to the fact that they were celebrating a complete loser.
To play the Devil’s advocate, I’ll post a couple of non-SDA consensus perspectives on the OWS/Tea Party/populist protests.
The first article is about a Tea Party/OWS alliance against the political class and the second is an opinion piece that discusses if there are any common thread between these uprisings.
“In the spirit of this rocking Venn diagram, The Atlantic’s Conor Friedersdorf posits that an opposition to bailouts and crony capitalism could — and should — be enough to justify a you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours merging of the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protesters. ”
http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/12/the-possibility-of-a-tea-party
“But the protesters do share some basics: rejection of traditional political elites; a belief that “globalization” benefits the rich more than the masses; anger about intertwined business and political corruption; and the connectedness and empowerment fostered by Facebook and other social media. This neo-populism is all the more striking because it seems to transcend traditional political boundaries. The Tea Party movement may wear conservative colors, but it arose as a protest against elites in Washington and on Wall Street who were seen to be profiting at the expense of everyday people. Occupy Wall Street comes at these same issues from the left, but the two movements have much in common. ”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/around-the-world-rage-against-the-elites/2011/10/11/gIQA0UkykL_story.html?wprss=rss_opinions
These “Occupiers” are racist though and though. Notice that they all want to bring down and hang the “white man at the top”?
More often than not, they make derogatory and bigoted comments about all these “evil white men”.
Yet the first Affirmative Action, Nobel Prize Winning Black President gets a free pass on the state of the economy, the authority to drop bombs on non threatening foreign countries, the ability to spend trillions on corporate bailouts and dissolve any sense of individual freedom, Liberty and right to privacy.
Wow talk about evil, hypocritical, racist loons.
Good idea, Knight 99 @ 1:45
I don’t know whether to worry about this movement or laugh at them. They are for the most part smelly hippies with time on their hands, but they are also useful idiots being puppestrated by Soros and company. This could be out of the news by next week or we might see G20 style riots and then escalation from there. The only thing that gives me hope is the fact that our side are probably way better armed and way smarter.
minuteman >
“I don’t know whether to worry about this movement or laugh at them.”
All “radical ideological movements” have the potential of anarchy and violent revolution. All totalitarian societies began this way, usually with the status quo initially laughing at their absurdity.
samsquanch:
Last night I suffered through the CTV news..
Lisa Laflamme is Global’s best possible argument for moving Dawna Friesen from 6:30 to 11:00 pm.
Watching the video of these idiots makes me cringe, and yet, and yet…
I understand their anger and their frustration. In some primitive, reptilian way, they know they’ve been had. I totally agree that banks like Goldman Sachs and others stole billions from the American people. Unfortunately, since most of these people are either completely uneducated in economics, or were educated by marxist professors (yes, I know, what’s the difference?), they blame the wrong things.
They claim it’s because capitalism is wrong, but what they don’t realize what happened isn’t a result of capitalism at all. In a truly capitalist world, Goldman Sachs would be bankrupt. AIG would be bankrupt. JP Morgan Chase would be bankrupt. Lloyd Blankfein, chairman of Goldman Sachs. wouldn’t be making hundreds of millions in bonuses; he’d be out of job, being sued by shareholders, and in the best of all possible worlds, under indictment by the SEC and set to join Bernie Madoff in the pen. But none of that happened, because in the US especially, they don’t have capitalism; they have cronyism.
Most of you probably haven’t heard of Matt Taibbi; he’s a reporter with Rolling Stone magazine. Google his name with the term “vampire squid” (his pet name for Goldman Sachs), and read some of his articles. You will be astounded at how many ex-Goldman people are either major players at other banks on Wall St, or major players in the government. For example, Henry Paulson, former US Treasury Secretary under GW Bush, who engineered TARP, spent 26 years at Goldman, ending his career there as CEO. Clinton’s Treasury Secretary was Robert Rubin, who came from – guess where? – Goldman Sachs. The last two heads of the NY Fed are Goldman alums. The list goes on and on. Even Canada’s not immune – Mark Carney, current governor of the Bank of Canada, started his career at Goldman.
Now this is what the OWS+ crowd don’t know and don’t understand. They don’t understand that when TSHTF in 2008, Lloyd called Hank, and said “Help me out, bro”, knowing full well that Paulson wasn’t going to let anything bad happen to the hundreds of friends and ex-colleagues he had working on the Street. And Paulson didn’t let them down; he convinced Bush that these banks were “too big to fail”, engineered TARP, and the rest is history. Again, this is cronyism, not capitalism.
And the thing that sustains cronyism is the screwed up political finance system in the US. As much as I despise Cretin (sic), one of the good things he did was to cancel campaign contributions from corporations and unions. (Frankly, I think he did it more to screw Paul Martin than out of any sense it was the right thing to do, but on occasion, the road to heaven is paved with bad intentions.) In the US, politicos are so dependent on corporate (and union) money, the voice of the average citizen doesn’t have a chance. And until that changes – unlikely without a constitutional amendment regarding campaign finance – US politics is still going to be based on where the money comes from. The OWS crowd doesn’t understand this either.
So, as I said, these people are right when they sense something’s badly wrong. The problem is they’re blaming the wrong things, and using the greed of a few to justify greed (“Pay my tuition!”) of their own. The only possible hope is for some transcendent demagogue to emerge who can communicate to them the real nature of what’s wrong, and rally the people behind a new, third party that will clean the Augean stable of Washington. Unfortunately, I see no Hercules on the horizon.
The guy in the second video has problems. He frightens children.
The real cost of this “protest”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxaUgI0Ascw&feature=related
It looks like the guy in the second video is actually frothing at the mouth. I would advise anyone standing close to him to head for a clinic immediately and get started on your rabies shots.
Knight 99 @ 3:53, exactly…can not add much to that. My gpa said that in 1905 people laughed at the mini revolution in Russia. Twelve years later the laughter died.
KevinB, great comment. “Watching the video of these idiots makes me cringe, and yet, and yet…”, similar thoughts here. I hate communists of any stripe with a passion, but would like to see some of the people you mention beggared and jailed.
From the last linked article: “Mr. Hall is a well-educated young man with a privileged upbringing who said he was following a calling greater than getting a job and making money.”
There is no calling greater than looking after oneself. It’s precisely this nonsense about a “higher” calling that leads to the nanny state, in which people are pushed around by “leaders” whose predominant feature is the iron fist in the velvet glove.
“Corporate greed” is a red herring. In a free market, corporations make products they think people need or want to buy, and the customers purchase them voluntarily. If a corporation is too greedy, by setting its prices too high, then it won’t find any customers. Thus “greed”, meaning the desire to obtain things one is not entitled to, is self-limiting. It’s only when government intervention distorts the market and pre-empts the individual judgments of individuals and corporations that problems arise. So the solution to “corporate greed” insofar as it exists is to get coercive government influence out of the economy.
That a coke nose on the first guy…?
nv53:
If a corporation is too greedy, by setting its prices too high, then it won’t find any customers.
Too simplistic. Look at Goldman Sachs, my favourite whipping boy. They have a bunch of retail brokers, recommending investments to schmoes like you and me. They also have a propietary (“prop”) desk filled with professional traders, who trade the firm’s money, buying and selling stocks and bonds, for a percentage of the profits.
The Goldman customer agreement EXPLICITLY states that the prop desk may take positions contrary to those offered by the retail brokers. Now, think about what this means: they have a group of persuasive salesmen selling investments to relatively undereducated investors who rely on their broker for advice, while at the same time, they have a group of highly trained, highly educated traders, sitting at desks with four or five computer screens, tapped into every conceivable news and market feed, who are either buying or selling the very same investments the retail side is advising people to sell or buy. How can you lose?
And, in fact, they didn’t. In the first two quarters of this year, the Goldman prop desk, according to zerohedge, had exactly ONE day when they lost money. Now, you and I may think this screams “Conflict of interest!”, but the toothless and ineffectual SEC is apparently quite fine with it.
You might ask “Why would anyone in their right mind entrust their investments to GS?”. I certainly do. But, of course, the conflict is not stated as baldly as I have done. It’s couched in thick legalese, and buried on the third or fourth page of the account agreement, and, if you’re what the GS brokers call a “whale”, they don’t even put the agreement in front of you until they’ve taken you to Smith & Wollensky’s for a big steak lunch, with a few drinks of course, “just to show you how much we value your business”. Who ever bothers to read the fine print?
Greed takes many forms. High price is just the easiest to spot, and easiest to avoid. What about fake ingredients? There have been huge scandals in Europe over cheap Spanish olive oil imported into Italy, and re-emerging as vintage extra-virgin Italian oil. Or cheap vin de table rebottled as DOC vintages. Or wine treated with ethylene glycol (aka “anti-freeze”). In North America, it seems every year or so, there’s a story about some meat packer buying diseased or unfit carcasses, and then shipping them out to unknowing buyers. And don’t get me started on foods imported from China.
Warranties that aren’t honoured. Rebate checks that never come. Customer service that’s an endless voice mail tree, where no live people are available and no calls are returned. False or misleading advertising. Greed has many different faces, not all of which are apparent. I understand people’s anger.
Neither of these guys are that bright, but probably no stupider than the vast swath of commenters here. And the second dude, I would say there is significant evidence to suggest that the guy has some mental problems, so it’s not really fair to use this guy.
Now, regardless of whether or not these guys interview well, something is not open for debate… the fact of the matter is that 20% of the US population controls 84% of the wealth. And just 1% control 35%.
Now if that was how it had always been, we could argue that status quo is okay, but it’s not. The division of wealth is growing, and the trend is toward the very wealthy controlling more. We see this playing out in ways such as falling wages, a stagnating middle class, and the ranks of the poor growing.
So you can sit here in your little rightwing echo chamber pretending that the protesters are just a bunch of stupid dirty hippies, OR you could realize that chances are you’re part of the 99%.
You can hold onto your belief in radical capitalism and hope that someday our country will be as purely capitalist as the most capitalist place on Earth, Somalia, or we could work towards a mixed economy like Sweden, where the wealthy are still stupidly rich, but everyone else is doing pretty good as well.
Anyhoo, you guys keep on circlejerking. Maybe someday you’ll wake up.
You guys need to read this:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2010/09/theoretical_egalitarians.html
Somalia is anarchist/tribalist, John, not capitalist. Saith Wiki: “According to the Central Bank of Somalia, about 80% of the population are nomadic or semi-nomadic pastoralists, who keep goats, sheep, camels and cattle. The nomads also gather resins and gums to supplement their income.” Fankly, I’m amazed Somalia has a bank. The main industry seems to be piracy. Hong Kong is probably (still) the “most capitalist place on Earth”.
There is nothing inherently wrong with income inequality. You’d prefer an equality of poverty? Since you’re such a good researcher go and find out for me who is richer in absolute terms: The average Swede or the average yank.
And Ritchy Ritch III is stoned, not mentally ill.
BTW, the “T” stands for “Tw*t”. Hall’s been in the news before: Link.
John, I asked someone to do the math for me. Who are these 99%/1% people? Did you watch the video I attached? Where does that poor immigrant fit in?
The majority of people who benefit from capitalism are working to middle class people and they have every right to spend their earnings as they see fit. Consumerism, materialism and greed are not inherent to capitalism (see how Party members lived/live) and were denounced as wicked by a man in Rome (but who listens to him, right?).
If people want to decry the evils of materialism, they will get no arguments from me. If they want to attack capitalism because they hate Jews, their dads or George Bush, then they should be regarded as morons.