I am a scientist who was on the carbon gravy train, understands the evidence, was once an alarmist, but am now a skeptic. Watching this issue unfold has been amusing but, lately, worrying. This issue is tearing society apart, making fools out of our politicians.
h/t Don B.
Ànd in Alberta the winner is `Rob Renner
This sentence in the last paragraph says it all about the the biggest fraud the world has ever seen;
[Finally, to those who still believe our planet is in danger from our carbon dioxide emissions: Sorry, but you have been had.]
Shouldn’t he and his science fraud friends be rounded up and charged with extortion and breaking the peace.
But Al Gore, inventor of the Internet and author of “An Inconvenient Truth” says he’s wrong!
David Evans is the husband of Jo Nova, Australia’s downunder alarmist’s pain in the butt.
“I am a scientist who…understands the evidence…”
Or perhaps not, if recent history is to be a judge.
So who is David “I am not a climate modeller” Evans?
One doesn’t have to be fancy, if one lives in a port
(St. John’s in my case).
Global warming = sea level rise.
If there had been global warming, as was projected
30 years ago, there would be no arguing the matter.
One can’t argue with water.
There has been negliglble sea level rise in the last 30 years.
Yesterday, CKNW’s Bill “Not So” Good started off one segment by defending the Glibal Warming Theory by talking with one highly biased guest about the percentage of scientists who supported it.
I was laughing at first because the notion that the % of scientists has any bearing on truth flies in the face of history. Then it just became irritating to hear these nitwits nattering on & on!
Considering the Libs have a carbon tax and trade scheme in their platform, this is a bat the CPC needs to put in their arsenal and slam the Libs over the head with it.
Figuratively speaking, of course. /snark
skip and davenport;If CO2 caused climate change was such a catastrophy in the making,and getting the message out was so important,why would Al Gore charge a quarter of a million dollars for each event so we could hear the message.Einstien gave his info to the U S govt for FREE.No, Mr.Gore saw how much money those southern evangilists were making,so he decided to invent his own religion.The despicable thing that he did was to try and make a gas,that is absolutely vital for our existance,a polutant.
“This issue is tearing society apart, making fools out of our politicians.”
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Making? Wrong word.
Lemme fix that:
“This issue is tearing society apart, revealing fools, crooks and power hungry jerks in our political and scientific establishment.”
Greenhouse gases:
1. Oxygen given off by plants inside.
2. Water vapour.
On the other hand, any carbon dioxide is absorbed by the plants in the greenhouse.
And oh yeah, I am not a scientist.
No mention of the biggest effect of the extra CO2 – extra plant growth (and less water required, with grains at least). It’s the best way to get free fertilizer to the poorest peoples of the world, and the UN and governmental kleptocracies can’t skim off most of the value. And it’s actually worse than that because one of the “solutions” is to take perfectly good food and divert it for fuel production, raising the price of the remaining food.
Davenport, please don’t waste our time quoting DeSmogBlog. James Hoggan is a professional liar. Now drivel off somewhere else.
I read this article this morning and David Evans talks about something that has always bothered me about the settled science.
“They keep lowering the temperature increases they expect, from 0.30C per decade in 1990, to 0.20C per decade in 2001, and now 0.15C per decade — yet they have the gall to tell us “it’s worse than expected.” …
One way they conceal is in the way they measure temperature.
The official thermometers are often located in the warm exhaust of air conditioning outlets, over hot tarmac at airports where they get blasts of hot air from jet engines, at waste-water plants where they get warmth from decomposing sewage, or in hot cities choked with cars and buildings. Global warming is measured in 10ths of a degree, so any extra heating nudge is important. In the United States, nearly 90% of official thermometers surveyed by volunteers violate official siting requirements that they not be too close to an artificial heating source.”
Data is everything. Without proper sampling and proper data handling any conclusions are speculation, at best. The problem with the surface stations are particularly damning because there is no room for careless errors when dealing with changes in the range of .30C to .15C per decade range. In a lab situation instrumentation has defined detection limits and as you near those detection limits your sample/data handling becomes crucial – sloppy errors when measuring in parts per hundred may be forgivable but not when attempting to measure in parts per million or parts per billion. Knowing that, it becomes impossible to believe that gross errors in initial temp data can be accurately corrected by subsequent data massaging. To me, the Climate-gate e-mails confirmed my suspicions that the “scientists” were following the Science for Sale model not the scientific method.
David Evans is simply confirming what numerous respectable scientists have been saying for years.
Timothy Ball, Ross McKitrick, Steve McIntyre, Christopher Essex, Ian Clark, Tim Patterson, Brian Pratt, Richard Lindzen, Piers Corbyn, the list goes on.
Unfortunately, the left isn’t listening. Fortunately, Stephen Harper has given Peter Kent the Environment portfolio.
Old Couch cites articles from ’08. A few, shall we say, amendments since then.
Deletion of adverse data found, for one;
http://climateaudit.org/2011/03/29/keiths-science-trick-mikes-nature-trick-and-phils-combo/
The alarmists have been turning tricks at a great rate all based on their interpretation of tree phrenology.
The Hockey Stick Blues
It’s nice to see that intelligence is slowly returning to the topic, but how long will it take the ponderously slow intelligence of politicians to realize that they’ve been duped.
Remember folks that only a vote for the Conservatives will keep Canada from being thrown on the stupid train whose last stop is a station called “Destroyed Economy in the name of a Lie” !
Spike 1 @ 11:38: Not sure why you dragged me into your comment, especially along with the wilfully, and apparently terminally, stupid Davenport.
So when the ‘water crisis’ hits can we just say we had that handled with global warming but oh no you had to screw that up?
Kroket at 12:06 PM: “Fortunately, Stephen Harper has given Peter Kent the Environment portfolio.”
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Bullcrap. Harper has already shown he’s up to his earlobes in AGW crap. Passing it off to someone else is pure and simple cowardice.
He is spot on and the key word is ‘gravy train’. I am not sure in the case of politicians if they are being fools or simply addicted to the gravy train. Carbon tax gets you yet another cash cow and sounds so nice at the same time.
Louise nails it @ 1:19. It is bad enough that the poor people in BC have to suffer this fraud. The day he brings in any form of AGW crap is the day I am done and will quit supporting him or the Conservatives. It goes without saying that I would not be moving to the Commie lite parties either.
Kate,
I think this is important to get out to the masses:
Top Climate Skeptic Seeks Help in Double-barrel Courtroom Shootout
Esteemed climate scientist, Tim Ball faces two costly courtroom libel battles. Here he reveals his concerns and appeals for help with his legal fees.
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Two global warming doomsayers Ball has targeted, professors Michael Mann and Andrew Weaver are now suing Tim for libel with the backing of Big Green donors.
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Many suspect the deep-pocketed David Suzuki Foundation is bankrolling Weaver and Mann. Suzuki is reported as wanting skeptics like Ball “put in prison.”
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Critics suspect that the Suzuki Foundation is throwing money at the case in the hope that his target, who has no big corporate backers, will quit as his legal fees spiral. But Ball is determined he won’t be bounced out of this contest.
http://johnosullivan.livejournal.com/34877.html
Iggy wants to disavow anything after 1990 and go back to the heyday of progressive liberalism when people like Trudeau, Suzuki and Gore were gods.
Why arn’t the mainstream media on this stuff instead of ankle bitting drivel?
Is it because it is beyond the scope of their cognitive development?
I am not casting aspersions, just posing a question!
“Posted by: Davenport at April 8, 2011 11:02 AM”
Oh Please…
Links to Deltoid and Desmogblog? why not links to clogged toilet and broken plunger while your at it?
ron in kelowna
// This sentence in the last paragraph says it all about the the biggest fraud the world has ever seen //
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Not quite. To clarify [ & supplement Davenport’s post above]
David Evans is Jo Nova’s hubby — a quote from Nova in /this article
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“Carbon is the second largest scam in history. ”
Which makes one ask, what is the biggest scam in history?[…]
Bear with me as I introduce you to the strange, murky world of “fiat money” conspiracy theory. […]
Nova cites one of her husband’s papers made available from notorious denial think tank, the “Science and Public Policy Institute” (the home of Lord Monckton). At the end of his paper Evans makes the following claims:
” …There are a small number of families who, over the centuries, have amassed wealth through financial rent seeking. They are leading members of the paper aristocracy. For example, the Rothschild’s are the biggest banking family in Europe, and were reputed to own half of all western industry in 1900. That sort of wealth doesn’t just dissipate, because unless the managers are incompetent the wealth tends to concentrate. The banking families don’t work for a living in the normal sense, like the rest of us. They avoid scrutiny and envy by blending in and make themselves invisible. Since they own or influence all sorts of media organizations, it isn’t too hard. There are unsubstantiated rumors and conspiracy theories, but nobody can really credibly say how much wealth and influence they have…[…] ”
This is full-blown conspiracy theory in its most purist form. Like Ron Paul and the more extreme Overlords of Chaos, Evans make the direct link between “manufactured” money and its role as a weapon.
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As least it is obvious that they are sincere. But I doubt that the above would make the Financial Post.
“This issue is tearing society apart, making fools out of our politicians.”
Most were fools long before they became politicians, and will remain fools long after they retire.
Jimmy Carter comes immediately to mind.
Liberal Count Ignatieff’s o’Harvard buddy is on the Gravy Mockely and Lidicure Choo-Choo Tlain with Mao Stlong (Hi. I’m Liberal leader Bob Rae’s Uncle Mo Strong.)
over to o: Driving O’bama down. No clap, please.
“Promise of higher energy costs was fulfilled
President Barack Obama held a town hall meeting Wednesday at a wind turbine manufacturing plant in Fairless Hills, Penn., to promote his energy agenda. Not everyone in the audience was receptive to his message.
When one man failed to clap as Obama talked about government forcing higher fuel efficiency standards (which, contrary to the president, did not reduce U.S. oil imports a single drop), Obama teased him: “If you’re complaining about the price of gas and you’re only getting eight miles a gallon — [laughter] — you may have a big family. … How many you have? Ten kids, you say? [Laughter.] Well, you definitely need a hybrid van then.”
In fact, there are no family-size hybrid minivans on sale now, and any that come on line in the near future will likely cost somewhere north of $30,000. We doubt that a family of 12, or even an average family of four, has that much money just lying around to invest in Obama’s dreams. But we’ve seen this Obama many times before.
Instead of understanding the challenges facing his fellow Americans, and working to lower their energy costs, Obama lectures them about the alleged errors of their ways and tells them how they should spend their hard-earned money. The Fairless Hills exchange was an illustration of the professional politician who thinks he’s the boss, when in fact he is supposed to be the elected servant.
“There is no magic formula to driving gas prices down,” the president also said Wednesday.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2701856/posts
The Greenish will do to science what they have done for economy. Make it a laughing stock with their fanaticism at no cost to themselves, but Big harm to everyday people.
As for Politicians. This is their crack cocaine taxing on a mega level.
How do bozo’s like our Politico’s after CBC & ilk keep lying. Stop an addiction they can’t even mention to themselves?
JMO
Starts off good, but he completely torpedoes his credibility in the second paragraph.