… from the “great moments in irony” file:
Does “interculturalism” have legs? In Quebec probably. It’s respectable cover for dumping Trudeau-era multiculturalism, something which even the son of Pierre seems to be cool with doing. In the ROC it would only be a half-way house. A step to assuage the squeamish before the whole idea of multiculturalism is put into the ashcan of history. The choice that we face is a stark one. Either we are to accept Diefenbaker’s ideal of One Canada, or we elect for ourselves the fate of a vast sub-arctic Balkans. Without a common cultural center, this is a house that cannot stand.
Funny thing is, all this multi-culti, bi-lingual stuff was a sop to keep Quebec onside. In short order Quebec gave the finger to bilingualism and have never pretended that they have had any use for the multi-culti stuff.
So now the ROC is saddled with something that, with respect to its intended purpose, failed miserably.
But we keep up the pretense that there is some value in it all.
Problem is Trudeau locked it inside the Constitution and it can not be changed. It can be starved for funds but it is almost impossible to get rid of the Destructive Multicultural idea itself. It would need an amendment to the Constitution.
Problem is Trudeau locked it inside the Constitution and it can not be changed. It can be starved for funds but it is almost impossible to get rid of the Destructive Multicultural idea itself. It would need an amendment to the Constitution.
Posted by: RFB at March 18, 2011 1:16 PM
Not quite. The Constitution recognizes the multi-culti nature of Canadaian society.
But it doesn’t say that the governments had to create and fund all the multi-culti nonsense.
It’s all multi-culti mumbo-jumbo; a person should be allowed to speak whatever language they like, but they shouldn’t expect the public to understand and answer in same. English is the most international language and is very suitable to immigrants planning to come here. Most people born on the Indian sub-continent learn English at an early age. Canadians should not be expected to teach new immigrants the language. If you don’t know how to ask for something in English, you don’t get what you want. Watch them learn English real fast!
Our majesterial Supreme Court has ruled that all cultures are on an equal footing in Canada and must be respected. Yes, this means cultures that stone women, marry girls off at age 10, believe in honour killings, practice gendercide (aborting unborn females) hang gays and worship cargo planes are every bit as good as ours. That is what we are up against in trying to rescue our country from the multiculti madness created by Trudeau.
Trudeau locked it in the constitution. There was many things this destructive bastard did, that we seem unable to change. The main reason we cannot change things is the libsuk media in Toronto, doing everything they can to keep Harper from a majority. they are still under the illusion Trudeau was a god. Trudeau was an “intelligent idiot puppet”, his great IQ mesmerized those duller who are the media. Everything this creep did, has been to cost ultimate amounts to the Canadian Treasury just like his new found counterpart Obama in the US This is standard MO for a socialist communist, the enemy is the sychophants that worship the loser rich boy, and use their pulpits papers and airwaves to advance failure. Good news concerning Trudeau, he croaked on my birthday, best present ever after being in business through the NEP!
A little balkanization would do us good. This needless debate about the long gun registry is a good example of problems we wouldn’t have if provinces had a touch more autonomy. Our current system of catering to the LCD is doomed.
Don’t like guns? No problem, move to Ontario or Quebec. Wanna shoot clay pigeons off your back patio without the SWAT team getting involved? No problem, move to Alberta.
From the godscopy blog
“What then is the American, this new man?” that the American is one who “leaving behind him all his ancient prejudices and manners, receives new ones from the new mode of life he has embraced, the government he obeys, and the new rank he holds. He becomes an American by being received in the broad lap of our great Alma Mater. Here individuals of all nations are melted into a new race of men, whose labors and posterity will one day cause great changes in the world.
J. Hector St. John de Crèvecœur, 1782”
This seems to me to be the total opposite of the multicultural nonsense that Trudeau foisted on us and others did in Europe.
You bet Ken, and within less than 200 years, became the strongest,freest and most affluent nation on earth.
Where did WE go wrong?
The sentences in the link, “When the Empire collapsed the general Canadian reaction was of bewilderment.
We didn’t leave the Empire, the Empire left us. This meant that it look longer for a Canadian identity to form. It was still in the process of coming together when multiculturalism struck. Thus the greater damage it has done to us compared to the United States.” are noteworthy.
But multiculti seemed so innocuous when it first
appeared: a counter to biculturalism; something to
remind the Quebecois that the West had been built up
not only by British and French, but also by Ukranians, Russians, Germans, etc. etc.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/03/post-american-liberal-culture.html
“Liberals have over time successfully redefined liberal values as American values. Their cultural revisionism has worked so well that even for many conservatives, it is hard to tell one from the other. Particularly on immigration, tolerance, education and foreign affairs– among many others. Their cultural programming stopped trying to assimilate immigrants around the 1970’s, but has redoubled its efforts to assimilate Americans. And over and over again they have been successful. Wildly so. America is a country of conservative values, which becomes unrecognizable every generation.”
Sound familiar?
But multiculti seemed so innocuous when it first appeared: a counter to biculturalism; something to remind the Quebecois that the West…
Quebec got to keep their monoculture, with the RoC’s unwritten support, while the rest of us got our Angloculture watered down by immigrants from failed cultural models.
Government-approved/enforced programs ignore the natural progression of cultural growth and assimilation. A second or third generation immigrant certainly won’t resemble his parents or grandparents. Whatever cultural practice he retains ends up being transformed or fixed in time. One can conclude that government-sponsored multiculturalism is a deliberate attempt at social stagnation and/or instability.
Why is it tolerated and enforced? It is inevitably divisive even for the instigator of the policy. Look at Ford’s Toronto. Did he get in because everyone banded together as Canadians with their lazy, decadent ideas or did he get in because immigrants clung to their values- as they were expected to do by liberals naive enough to believe political change was possible- and saw him as a viable candidate?
Things come back to bite one.
I’m not the least bit interested in accomadating inferior cultural norms under any government policy. I’m done like dinner burnt like toast accomadating the intolerable under the guise of being diverse and tolerant.
Multiculturalism is dead. Long live multiculturalism.
The poison in this recipe is respect. It’s either a lie, or this is multiculturalism by another name. My money’s on the lie.
How is Interculturalism supposed to work? French culture will be central, but other cultures will be respected? Well, they can’t be equally respected if French is “central”. So, they will have to be satisfied with something less than equal respect. And what respect they do get will be for those cultural elements that are compatible with French culture. Those they can keep. But they will have to give up those of their differences that are incompatible with the French, in order to form a “common culture”. That’s some respect!
So let me re-write that for you:
Interculturalism will finally get us just what we thought we were going to get with multiculturalism: more pavilions at Folkfest.
I smell a fatwa. And a referendum.
I liked it when Kate ran things, because she let comments post whether she agreed with them or not.
Now that we have “cjunk” – nice name… – handling things, innocuous comments are “held”, which seems another name for “censorship”.
If people wonder why I’m posting less and less, this is your answer.
I liked it when Kate ran things, because she let comments post whether she agreed with them or not.
Now that we have “cjunk” – nice name… – handling things, innocuous comments are “held”, which seems another name for “censorship”.
If people wonder why I’m posting less and less, this is your answer.
Posted by: KevinB at March 18, 2011 9:31 PM
I was wondering what was going on. Kind of a disincentive all right…
Americans will find as we did the long shadow of failure, that is the socialist way will follow Obama’s administration (If you can call it that) for 30 years after .Just like Trudeau did to destroy English Canada by Marxist dogma.
They fix it so no change is possible except more socialist abominations.
Now even the French have seen that this ultimately will squeeze theres special status into nothingness.
JMO
Jamie and Kevin: That is none of my doing. If the filter is knocking your comments out, then re-do them. I have a life that goes beyond baby-sitting you and sitting on here all night holding your hand. I have not deleted a single comment on this thread, and the junk folder is empty … so if there’s a problem, it’s outside my control.
cjunk:
OK, if there’s a problem with the “filter”, why not share with us the seven dirty words we can’t say? I had no profanity in mine, no racial slurs, nothing – the worst thing I said was that the word “gay” has now become a synonym for men who like to have anal sex with other men. I’ve seen worse here before. So, please, enlighten me.
Tried again: the only remotely offensive word was “#n#l”. Do you mean to tell me that this blog forbids this word?
The problem with blocking posts by keywords is that it gives the illiterate an advantage. Such as the people from Viagara Falls, or lebsians, or those who just want to cry out siht and get away with it.
Jamie and Kevin: That is none of my doing. If the filter is knocking your comments out, then re-do them. I have a life that goes beyond baby-sitting you and sitting on here all night holding your hand. I have not deleted a single comment on this thread, and the junk folder is empty … so if there’s a problem, it’s outside my control.
Posted by: Cjunk at March 19, 2011 1:26 AM
Glad to hear it. I’ll take the pins out of your effigy…
Jamie: Did you have to stick that one in my temple; and here I was wondering why I had a headache …
KevinB: For example, your 1:31 post was stuck in “junk” for no reason that I can find, but, since I don’t spend all day moderating comments, I’d have no idea it was there … in fact, I’d have no idea because most comments are processing just fine … so, I couldn’t issue a “seven dirty word” alert because a)I wouldn’t know there is a problem b) I don’t know what those words would be c) I’m only a guest and have no control over the filter other than releasing trapped comments.
“No, the movement to reconstitute Canada in the interest of bilingualism and biculturalism can have only one probable outcome – the creation of a separate, or virtually separate Quebec. This could happen in one of two ways – either gradually or tacitly through the present decentralizing policies of the federal government, or suddenly and openly as a result of a positive decision to break up the federal union. The process of decentralization could conceivably go so far that Canada would lose the power to cope with a serious political or economic crisis and would simply disintegrate under its pressure. Or alternatively, the campaign for French Canadian nationailzation could be carried to the point at which English Canada would finally decide, in disgust and indignation, that it had had enough.”
– Donald Creighton in SATURDAY NIGHT, Sept 1966
All from the full article:
“The Myth of Biculturalism or THE GREAT FRENCH-CANADIAN SALES CAMPAIGN”
No link – I only have the paper copy.
It really has been pretty much a waste of 45 years of time, money (especially money!) and sweat on the part of English Canada, eh?
Upward and onward for English Canada!
Multi-cult is dead you say? Only in Quebec you say? It is an industry that politicans of all stripes use to their advantage. Yes the Liberal cooked it up to advantage Quebec but ultimately it was a tool used by Central Canada to maintain control of the rest of the country. The federal bureacracy is dominated by the Ontario-Quebec axis and remains that way.
A month or so ago a Arab speaking high school was opened in Calgary with room for 300 students. It was oversubscribed within an hour. I am sure there was debate about its establishment but I heard none. Canadians scoff at the idea of sharia law but I think it will happen within 10 years in parts of Canada. I suspect it already exists behind closed doors.
There is no problem with multi-cult in Canada that cannot be solved by a sufficiently large TAX CUT. All these ills are caused and proliferated by an overabundance of bureaucrats with time on their hands.
They will all be solved on the day those excess employees get their pink slips. CPC lurkers, pay attention.
I saw the “interculturalism” article in the Blob&Snail, thought about doing a post on the obvious effort to re-tool an old dead Liberal/Fascist idea with a new coat of paint and decided it was too lame an effort to be interesting. “Interculturalism”? This is the best they can come up with as a cover for overt Pur Lain racism? Gawd.