66 Replies to “Looking for a Career as a Motivational Speaker?”
Isn’t it bracing, inspiring, energizing to hear straight talk – TRUTH WELL TOLD! – instead of the usual namby-pamby, politically correct ‘tongue dancing’ that buries us on a daily basis?
That straight-from-the-gut rant was world-class AWESOME. He’s got MY vote.
Let us see now,
The American, what ever his rank is, can talk his head off, the crowd that he is talking to is
altogether of different mind set.
There is serious doubt that the “soldiers” understand the points the American is making.
Those “soldiers” or “plice” don’t get, don’t understand the points that the guy is making.
They have had the prayer a few hours ago and will have another one soon, were told and will be something diametricly oposite.
So what is the point.
Have to say,
drinking beer and writing, not very compatible, sorry about the sics.
I loved this sermon by a choirboy. My Drill Sergeant wrapped his hands around my neck and told me the best part of me ran down my mothers leg. God, I pray we are not wasting our youth for people who will hate us anyway.
So while Iraq has its share of ignorance, it compares in no way to Afghanistan.
Strangely though, both Afghanis and Iraqis want American and ISAF forces to remain.
~cjunk
Iraq compares in many ways to Afghanistan.
Both are Muslim countries who just happen to have been invaded by American led forces and, while they weren’t in the past, are now both Islamic Republics just like Iran is.
That’s 3 ways they compare right there.
The military surge is now engaging the Taliban in many areas where they have been unchallenged for significant periods of time. Unfortunately, interview data indicates that military operations are viewed negatively by many Afghans, particularly those in the south.
Only 31% of interviewees in these areas believe that NATO-ISAF protects civilians (p21); only 44% judge that recent local operations have been good for the Afghan people (p16), and 65% believe that NATO-ISAF kills more civilians than the Taliban (p21).
Over 90% of interviewees in the south are not familiar with the events of 9/11 which brought NATO-ISAF to Afghanistan (p28) and 40% of respondents believe that foreigners are in Afghanistan to destroy the country, to occupy Afghanistan, or to destroy Islam (p27). Underlining another area of serious concern, 72% of southern interviewees view foreigners as disrespectful of their religion and traditions (p22).
The Afghan security forces are also perceived as unreliable. 56% of interviewees in southern Afghanistan believe that the Afghan police recruits are helping the Taliban, and 25% think they are joining the insurgency (p35).
61% of Afghans interviewed think Mullah Omar/the Taliban should join the government.(p45)
Support for the Taliban can also be assessed through the perceived motivations of Taliban recruits. Overall, 45% of southern respondents think that young men – the foot-soldiers of the insurgency – join because of the foreign presence in Afghanistan.(p47)
FROM: http://tinyurl.com/39odqrt
From what I’ve read Afghans and Iraqis don’t want American/NATO/ISAF forces to remain.
If there is a global economic crash, and it’s on the way(it’s a matter of when not if) the question of whether these people want our forces to remain will become moot, we won’t be able to afford to maintain forces there.
This guy sounded like an 8th Hussar sergeant who was one of our course instructors in Petawawa in 67. It was hard to concentrate on the subject matter what with every sentence including a string of various ways of saying the “f” word.
Gee Oz, were you there? What happened the day, week, month before the guy gave his motivational speech?
Boo yah! If I was putting my life on the line for these people, I would also be speaking the same way.
“Winning hearts and minds” is an impossible goal, so who really cares whether he trampled on their medieval sensibilities or not. Enough of America’s blood and treasure has been spent trying to “win hearts and minds”.
Besides, we’ve only seen a 5 minute segment out of context. This might be the “bad cop” portion. In all likelihood this was someone who had seen enough of his own comrades maimed and killed while that country’s own men wouldn’t similarly risk themselves. Calling them women demonstrates the opposite of ignorance of Arab culture, it demonstrates a pretty strong understanding of it in fact.
Any chance of getting this guy to speak to the OPP at Caledonia?
Anyone who claims to understand…hasn’t been properly briefed.
I have had personal experience with Afghans…they have no concept of nationalism or loyalty….period. A few wingnuts, usually drugged, will do the suicide bomber route but they are the exception.
Even the Taliban must rely upon money for recruitment and retention.
These are Afghans not Arabs…..although both tend to be brigands first and holy warriors second…..it’s just a matter of degree.
Hmm according to a couple of posters this film was terrible since the American seemed to be treating the Iraqi Police as if they were soldiers. Here’s a clue. In an environment, such as Iraq, the police are the just the same as soldiers. Their mission is more centered on enforcing laws than the Iraqi soldier. They have fewer heavy weapons options. The training is not identical. Having said that they’re also mixed right up among the terrorists within their own country. They are just as much targets as are the soldiers. They also will undertake basic, light infantry, combat operations as the needs arise.
You critics don’t seem to realize that an Iraqi police officer just doesn’t hand out traffic tickets. He is often involved in, what can only be called, close combat. He doesn’t (or shouldn’t) simply throw his hands into the air and turn away because a crime of murder is being committed by an insurgent versus a deranged spouse.
Training the Iraqi police is a necessity. They do not have the infrastructure for combat training that a pure military force would normally posses. What part of major ongoing insurgency do you people not understand? It would do well for some of you to look up how often police HQ’s get attacked in that country versus regular military HQ’s.
JD has made a valid point.
Police HQs and police are favourite bad guy targets for several reasons.
1) Generally softer targets…
2) Police are a prime necessity to implement LAW and ORDER. Soldiers make lousy police-men.
#2 is the signal neccessity. Even the bad guys know this. “Beat cops” are vastly superior to the doughnut munching cruisers…..as many North American PDs have discovered….even the OPP uses bicycles to patrol our small towns and villages now.
beagle
[…..what’s the f word in iraqi? LOL !!!
drill sargeant 2.0 hoo rah !!!!……]
Irrelevant! Calling a guy a MF in some cultures merely elicits a shrug…..
It’s much like saying “El esta no toros” to a Mexican just makes you look retarded….
Iraqui’s (arabs) do really seriously resent/get upset bigtime to references to pigs and dogs though….them’s fighting words…to them.
When they say this to us, we react like they do to the “f” word…..and are puzzled.
….different strokes for different folks……
Wow !!! I am in love !!
I heard, why should we outfit you with equipment etc. when we don’t even know who’s side your on, so prove it first, go out and do what men do and protect your fellow citizens and yourselves. As for the course language, no matter how it translated he did get a positive reaction, in the beginining they were silent then they were saying the name of their country – Iraq. Me thinks he got the message across.
I’d like to hear the translation retranslated.
“The Captain says he’s somewhat disappointed in your performance. He says he thinks you could use a little improvement.”
And so on.
“That guy for President!”
No! We need guys like that in combat.They know how to fight – really fight, they know how to lead soldiers and win battles.
Isn’t it bracing, inspiring, energizing to hear straight talk – TRUTH WELL TOLD! – instead of the usual namby-pamby, politically correct ‘tongue dancing’ that buries us on a daily basis?
That straight-from-the-gut rant was world-class AWESOME. He’s got MY vote.
Let us see now,
The American, what ever his rank is, can talk his head off, the crowd that he is talking to is
altogether of different mind set.
There is serious doubt that the “soldiers” understand the points the American is making.
Those “soldiers” or “plice” don’t get, don’t understand the points that the guy is making.
They have had the prayer a few hours ago and will have another one soon, were told and will be something diametricly oposite.
So what is the point.
Have to say,
drinking beer and writing, not very compatible, sorry about the sics.
I loved this sermon by a choirboy. My Drill Sergeant wrapped his hands around my neck and told me the best part of me ran down my mothers leg. God, I pray we are not wasting our youth for people who will hate us anyway.
So while Iraq has its share of ignorance, it compares in no way to Afghanistan.
Strangely though, both Afghanis and Iraqis want American and ISAF forces to remain.
~cjunk
Iraq compares in many ways to Afghanistan.
Both are Muslim countries who just happen to have been invaded by American led forces and, while they weren’t in the past, are now both Islamic Republics just like Iran is.
That’s 3 ways they compare right there.
The military surge is now engaging the Taliban in many areas where they have been unchallenged for significant periods of time. Unfortunately, interview data indicates that military operations are viewed negatively by many Afghans, particularly those in the south.
Only 31% of interviewees in these areas believe that NATO-ISAF protects civilians (p21); only 44% judge that recent local operations have been good for the Afghan people (p16), and 65% believe that NATO-ISAF kills more civilians than the Taliban (p21).
Over 90% of interviewees in the south are not familiar with the events of 9/11 which brought NATO-ISAF to Afghanistan (p28) and 40% of respondents believe that foreigners are in Afghanistan to destroy the country, to occupy Afghanistan, or to destroy Islam (p27). Underlining another area of serious concern, 72% of southern interviewees view foreigners as disrespectful of their religion and traditions (p22).
The Afghan security forces are also perceived as unreliable. 56% of interviewees in southern Afghanistan believe that the Afghan police recruits are helping the Taliban, and 25% think they are joining the insurgency (p35).
61% of Afghans interviewed think Mullah Omar/the Taliban should join the government.(p45)
Support for the Taliban can also be assessed through the perceived motivations of Taliban recruits. Overall, 45% of southern respondents think that young men – the foot-soldiers of the insurgency – join because of the foreign presence in Afghanistan.(p47)
FROM:
http://tinyurl.com/39odqrt
From what I’ve read Afghans and Iraqis don’t want American/NATO/ISAF forces to remain.
If there is a global economic crash, and it’s on the way(it’s a matter of when not if) the question of whether these people want our forces to remain will become moot, we won’t be able to afford to maintain forces there.
This guy sounded like an 8th Hussar sergeant who was one of our course instructors in Petawawa in 67. It was hard to concentrate on the subject matter what with every sentence including a string of various ways of saying the “f” word.
Gee Oz, were you there? What happened the day, week, month before the guy gave his motivational speech?
Boo yah! If I was putting my life on the line for these people, I would also be speaking the same way.
“Winning hearts and minds” is an impossible goal, so who really cares whether he trampled on their medieval sensibilities or not. Enough of America’s blood and treasure has been spent trying to “win hearts and minds”.
Besides, we’ve only seen a 5 minute segment out of context. This might be the “bad cop” portion. In all likelihood this was someone who had seen enough of his own comrades maimed and killed while that country’s own men wouldn’t similarly risk themselves. Calling them women demonstrates the opposite of ignorance of Arab culture, it demonstrates a pretty strong understanding of it in fact.
Any chance of getting this guy to speak to the OPP at Caledonia?
Anyone who claims to understand…hasn’t been properly briefed.
I have had personal experience with Afghans…they have no concept of nationalism or loyalty….period. A few wingnuts, usually drugged, will do the suicide bomber route but they are the exception.
Even the Taliban must rely upon money for recruitment and retention.
These are Afghans not Arabs…..although both tend to be brigands first and holy warriors second…..it’s just a matter of degree.
Hmm according to a couple of posters this film was terrible since the American seemed to be treating the Iraqi Police as if they were soldiers. Here’s a clue. In an environment, such as Iraq, the police are the just the same as soldiers. Their mission is more centered on enforcing laws than the Iraqi soldier. They have fewer heavy weapons options. The training is not identical. Having said that they’re also mixed right up among the terrorists within their own country. They are just as much targets as are the soldiers. They also will undertake basic, light infantry, combat operations as the needs arise.
You critics don’t seem to realize that an Iraqi police officer just doesn’t hand out traffic tickets. He is often involved in, what can only be called, close combat. He doesn’t (or shouldn’t) simply throw his hands into the air and turn away because a crime of murder is being committed by an insurgent versus a deranged spouse.
Training the Iraqi police is a necessity. They do not have the infrastructure for combat training that a pure military force would normally posses. What part of major ongoing insurgency do you people not understand? It would do well for some of you to look up how often police HQ’s get attacked in that country versus regular military HQ’s.
JD has made a valid point.
Police HQs and police are favourite bad guy targets for several reasons.
1) Generally softer targets…
2) Police are a prime necessity to implement LAW and ORDER. Soldiers make lousy police-men.
#2 is the signal neccessity. Even the bad guys know this. “Beat cops” are vastly superior to the doughnut munching cruisers…..as many North American PDs have discovered….even the OPP uses bicycles to patrol our small towns and villages now.
beagle
[…..what’s the f word in iraqi? LOL !!!
drill sargeant 2.0 hoo rah !!!!……]
Irrelevant! Calling a guy a MF in some cultures merely elicits a shrug…..
It’s much like saying “El esta no toros” to a Mexican just makes you look retarded….
Iraqui’s (arabs) do really seriously resent/get upset bigtime to references to pigs and dogs though….them’s fighting words…to them.
When they say this to us, we react like they do to the “f” word…..and are puzzled.
….different strokes for different folks……
Wow !!! I am in love !!
I heard, why should we outfit you with equipment etc. when we don’t even know who’s side your on, so prove it first, go out and do what men do and protect your fellow citizens and yourselves. As for the course language, no matter how it translated he did get a positive reaction, in the beginining they were silent then they were saying the name of their country – Iraq. Me thinks he got the message across.
I’d like to hear the translation retranslated.
“The Captain says he’s somewhat disappointed in your performance. He says he thinks you could use a little improvement.”
And so on.
“That guy for President!”
No! We need guys like that in combat.They know how to fight – really fight, they know how to lead soldiers and win battles.