47 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Stinking Giant Fans”
Have fun riding ‘yer bikes, Obamaniacs!
We’ll be drivin’ Chevy 454’s goin’ 130 miles per hour!
america is addicted to oil in all senses of meaning.
alta tar sands will continue to sell south of the 49th.
I must say, I’m getting truly sick of Obama….
Simon- They’ll probably be Fords. Remember who owns Chevy.
The Canada Pension Plan holding a stake in oilsands development….I love it! Leftard heads exploding in 3..2..1.
Syncro
Indeed, syncro, that’s the best part of this story. Just think. With every paycheque a leftard receives, he’s supporting the “tar” sands. That almost cancels out my being miffed about having to pay for Mother Corpse. hehehehehe!
Screw Obama!!! Plenty of others who like our oil & Gas.
Nice investment for pensions if the government keeps its hands off the increase.
More people should invest in Sask. Industry as well.
Its got no where to go but up.
The way things are going, the US won’t be able to afford our oil. We can sell it to China – they’ll have money – so long as Iggy Pop and the Stooges don’t prevent us from using the northern tanker route.
Dirty Oil-
“Hey Babe!”
“That Unicorn Obama promised to send has finally arrived,
harness her ass to the windmill.”
Dirty Oil-
“Hey Dear!”
“That Unicorn Obama promised to send has finally arrived,
harness her to the windmill.”
The good people of Alberta have nothing to fear from Obama. You have to remember who Obama answers to, of course not the US taxpayer, George Soros whose hedge fund increased there ownership in Suncor by 22% back on June 9th. http://seekingalpha.com/article/209263-soros-is-bullish-on-petrobras-suncor-and-directv
Remember George got Obama to give the Brazilian oil Company Petrobra billions of dollars so that they can expand off shore drilling just last year, and what a coincidence George owns tons of Petrobra Stock!
So if Obama was really going to try to do in the Canadian oil sands do you really think George would have bought more stock in it last month? Nope Obama ain’t going to do shit to any oil company OUTSIDE of the US, except give them more money possibly, his sugar daddy George would be upset.
Maybe the oil companies should reach out to the Muslim world as their ‘foremost’ mission after the extraction of oil?
That should make it all good.
Just reading Jeff Rubin’s book “Why Your World is about to Get A Whole Lot Smaller” on the world’s dwindling oil supply and now is using more expensive sites like the oil sands. He predicates that we will be turning to a Europe type of oil usage, vastly higher prices forcing much reduced usage of oil. Of course this implies a much greater dependency on transit to get around, which of course politicians never had a plan in Toronto to implement over the years.
The key thing is his book is the high price of oil will kill long range shipping of all products and force local manufacturing and food growth to start up again.
Its obvious the globalist puppet in the Whitehouse wants Canada to adopt his commie cap and trade economic rip off – – he’ll break trade agreements and resource supply agreements to do it.
So be it. Two can play that game and the US is in NO shape to lose it’s greatest trade ally.
Say how’s that dollar doin’ Barry?
Its obvious the globalist puppet in the Whitehouse wants Canada to adopt his commie cap and trade economic rip off – – he’ll break trade agreements and resource supply agreements to do it.
So be it. Two can play that game and the US is in NO shape to lose it’s greatest trade ally.
Say how’s that dollar doin’ Barry?
So next Obamugabe will be telling Thugo Chavez and Soros to desist from bringing in Chinese expertise and money to develop Venezuela’s huge oil sands as well? Sure he will. CO2 is so climate-changey, so moronic, so yesterday, so appealing to his anti capitalist, Luddite marxist base.
Obamassiah doesn’t need the Oil Sands . . . he’s got the Oil Beaches.
The man is terminally stupid, but Jimmy Carter is very happy.
The article was from 2008?
This President has to be the most socially inept and incompetent the USA has had in some time.
He should never badmouth a friend like Canada, when the USA will need help in the future.
I mean, how much damage can a one-term President do?
God, it’s like a bad dream. How could anyone that ignorant about the world around him get elected to ANYTHING?
I know how. Because the ones who elected him are even more ignorant.
The fundamental American dilemma:
US daily consumption is 21 million barrels a day.
US daily domestic production is six million barrels a day.
So 15 million barrels has to come from somewhere else.
The Middle East, Russia or Canada?
Your choice, my American friends.
“Obamassiah doesn’t need the Oil Sands . . . he’s got the Oil Beaches.”
Good one!
Investing CPP funds in the oil sands is BRILLIANT!!!
Perhaps all those retired econazis receiving CPP will immediately choose to forego “dirty” pension money on principle,* leaving an even bigger pot of funds for the rest of us!
* Ha! As if!
ObaMarxist had better pray that the Strait of Hormuz stays open. The US is probably in the most precarious energy and economic situation in their history…..much of it caused by Obama himself. A true moron.
Ah, it’s just Bambi flapping his gums again. Discount 99% of anything he says.
So 15 million barrels has to come from somewhere else?
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Hey back off!
We might not need Canada.
We get almost one percent of our energy from natural gas, windmills, bio fuels, etc.
Henry Waxman – some people curse is being themselves – wants to shutdown the pipeline. Fine we could also shut down the pipeline that supplies Illinois with all their petroleum. Now lets see who comes from there? Oh! Thats right Obama. Or could he mean the pipelines that supplies California with 20% of their Natural Gas. Now who lives there? Oh! He does. If you shut down Alberta you shut down 2/3 of
Canad and all the West Coast. The last time I checked we were not using guns to make people by our product that said if you plan to stop us from developing that what everyone needs then you best bring some. Now that would be interesting Oil Patch workers against spoiled greenies. I would pay money to see that.
O’Bama sounds like an addicted smoker (which he is) who says every day, I have to quite this habit, but not today.
O’Bama and all the other environmentalists are complete hypocrites. They all use and and rely on fossils fuels for their upscale life styles that include all sorts of materials and goods but don’t understand the connection all that has to fossil fuel.
They are all dull witted too I guess. But then, we already know that about them.
As the Middle East becomes freakier the cost of doing business there goes up. Saudi, Kuwait, etc. pump oil out of the ground for something like $2 a barrel delivered to the dock. Stick a pipe in the ground, attach a pump and you’re in business.
But if you have to spend money protecting your workers, protecting the ships, greasing the odd Saudi prince here and there, blah blah blah, pretty soon the production cost starts to look like… Alberta!
Syncrude et al produces for something like $30-$40 a barrel, and there’s no PIRATES shooting at tankers to worry about. Just a nice, predictable delivery schedule and enforceable contracts.
Naturally, Barry and the Dems are against this. Because their purpose is to drive the USA back to the 19th Century, with them cast as Lord of the Manor to everybody else’s tenant farmer. Maybe some slaves too, who knows with these guys?
November cometh. I plan on taking my Arizona vacation in December, -after- the excitement. Besides, I frickin’ hate our modern Walmart Christmas, so missing all the mega-intense marketing will be -excellent-.
Good point on GM ownsership, Warren Z. However: Chevy 454’s are no longer produced by US taxpayer-owned GM; they were discontinued in the mid 90s. Therefore, every Chevy 454 in operation today was produced by accountable people in the private sector, and allah willing, will be maintained by the same.
As for contemporary GM products, I would never buy one.
The US isn’t running out of oil, its enjoying the benefits of self-inflicted Green Hell and as a consequence, funding both sides of the Jihad as a bonus. The Colorado Oil Shales represent huge reserves and even using Shell’s technology, is apparently profitable at $60/ barrel. Think how that could be reduced if instead of electric heaters down the boreholes they used free spent nuclear fuel rods which could cook out oil for hundreds of years. The resources and technology are there but lacking is a collective IQ which can stand up to the Watermelons who now have an institutional hold on the US. And for anyone who thinks more bureaucrats, litigators and regulations are the answer for the environment or anything else, take a good look at the Gulf clean up flustercluck.
That asstard STILL hasn’t heard about Climategate? His keepers must be filtering his Net feeds.
beagle, maybe we know about the report, but we read this bit right here: “The inquiry by former civil servant Muir Russell…”
Because like, a former civil servant of the Labour government would NEVER do the convenient thing, right? Right?
Who am I going to believe beagle, Muir Russell or my own Mark 1 eyeball?
Simon and Warren Z, Chevy 454s are nice. But for the real deal, you want a Buick 425. Oh BABY!
Good post John Chittick.
Let’s hear it for watermelon utopia. Yes, we’ll recede the oceans if we just end our “addiction” to oil. Is that anything like our “addiction” to say, food?
We will need to continue to use large quantities of fossil fuels into the foreseable future (think 50 years +). Any attempt to impose systemic alternative fuels use will destroy the world economic system.
IOW it isn’t going to happen. Once the collectivists reach into the taxpayer wallet (an inevitability), they’ll get slapped back big time. Wait for it.
This idiotic debate over climate change (with acual pollution proliferation staring us in the face) has done nothing, zero, to reduce dependence on fossil fuels.
We’ve wasted an entire decade when we could have enacted meaningful environmental measures, such as nuclear power, public transit, actual recycling etc, etc.
It’s probably easier to let Chinese pollution growth outstrip entire western countrys’ output, then blame the “tar” sands.
BTW, love to see the total carbon footprint math on the “3X ghg output” claim; Left and right side of the equation, please.
beagle, this is probably pointless to point out, as arguing with watermelons is about as interesting as watching paint dry and accomplishes even less (you can’t argue with faith), but East Anglia has already appointed their own investigative boards and cleared themselves of all wrongdoing a couple times. This is the third time I believe.
IOW, completely unethical and an obvious conflict of interest, that, if it were occurring in the opposite sides of the partisan coin, the left and the MSM would be all over it.
Lefties – rampant ignorance.
“We’ve wasted an entire decade when we could have enacted meaningful environmental measures, such as nuclear power, public transit, actual recycling etc, etc.”
More likely we’ve wasted twenty years thinking public transit and recycling are anything other than an expensive and stupid waste of time.
Nuclear power I could stand seeing more of, particularly if used to crack oil out of the tar sands.
All things considered, what I’d like to see most is clean coal tech and -cheap- plasma arc reduction of hazardous waste. Better to burn it clean than dump it. Making oil out of slaughterhouse waste has a certain charm too, but that one is a long way from being financially feasible at $75/barrel of crude.
“More likely we’ve wasted twenty years thinking public transit and recycling are anything other than an expensive and stupid waste of time.”
Why? Proof? What is so expensive about recycling? What is wrong with the concept of public transit?
“Nuclear power I could stand seeing more of, particularly if used to crack oil out of the tar sands.”
This statement is absolutely ridiculous…why would you use a very good, very energy rich source like nuclear (HUGE EROI) in order to get energy out of a very poor, very expensive and energy intensive source (EXTREMELY low EROI…the lowest of all possible energy sources)?
“why would you use a very good, very energy rich source like nuclear (HUGE EROI) in order to get energy out of a very poor, very expensive and energy intensive source [tarsands]”
Try pouring a tankful of nuclear energy into your Jetta and you might understand.
Idle threats. The first article only discusses the down side for Canada. We’re in a much stronger bargaining position than the Americans would like us to think. I’m sure Canada’s Left eating this up though; kneeling and praying for Obama to rescue us from ourselves.
I’ve recently thought to my self that the anti-American sentiment in Canada’s Left might come back to bite them in the arse. In my view, BO would gladly use “dirty oil” if it was drilled in Blue States. Furthermore, I believe it could very likely be the Leftist’s wet dream if Canada dumped the Loony for the Greenback and perhaps even to get rid of the boarder altogether. It would suit Leftists on both sides of the boarder because it would satisfy the S&M fetish of America’s Left; and, alleviate their energy concerns. While at the same time giving Canada’s Left the opportunity to perform the Lewinski for the BIG man in the Whitehouse. So there’s the irony, perhaps one day having to tear down the anti-Americanism hurdle that the Left has worked so hard to erect.
I’m hopeful for November elections, but I’m doubtful that the newly elected Reps will have the desire, will, or capabilities of changing the general direction of the ship bearing Left. I think we’re in for a long, long journey, and I can only hope our Captain here in Canada can wade these waters successfully. I fear that soon we might have too many Captains and not enough ship-hands, and no f’n chance.
How did we American’s elect this fool?
Jezzzzzz
beagle…..Ken Lay “vindicated” Enron accounting practices too. What’s your point?
The Phantom Intelligence: More likely we’ve wasted twenty years thinking public transit and recycling are anything other than an expensive and stupid waste of time.
Oh, really? Tried to get around Toronto during the last transit strike, did you? Well, actually, the 2008 strike started at midnight Friday night, and the union was ordered back to work on Sunday, so the effect wasn’t as horrible as it might have been.
But the one day strike on Monday, May 29 in 2006 left over a million people who normally use the TTC every freakin’ day trying to get to work. The city ground to a standstill. But transit is just a waste of time, right?
The DVP carries about 100,000 cars each way, each weekday. So, what’s your brilliant solution, Phantom? TEN MORE DVP’s in Toronto? Nice idea, except where would you put them and still leave room for things like buildings and homes and parks? Get a map, and try it genius. There isn’t enough room, and TTC ridership has increased by 50% in the last ten years. Even if we don’t get a David Miller clone as mayor, there isn’t enough space downtown to park another 200,000 cars a day (as anyone who doesn’t have a reserved space can well attest), unless you want to raze the whole waterfront, and build parking garages that sit empty 60% of the time. Wow, that’s an intelligent use of space.
The only city of more than 2 million that I can think of that doesn’t have a truly functional subway system is LA, and that’s because LA doesn’t really have a centre (plus, I think a lot of people are scared of being caught in a subway during an earthquake, but that’s just anecdotal). Yes, it’s got a piddly “downtown” that we’ve all seen in the movies, but in reality, their downtown core isn’t as big as Montreal’s, let alone NYC or Chicago. Every other good sized city in the world that is recognized as livable has a decent subway, but I guess everyone in the world is wrong about it but you, eh?
Oh, BTW, I’ve spent a fair amount of time in Manila, where the generally screwed up government has managed to build a single elevated railway line. It took us two hours one time to go from midtown Manila to Makati – a distance of about 10 km – because the traffic was so bad. In truth, it would have been faster to walk, except for the heat and the crime. Go and spend a week there, and then a week in Seoul (where the subways put the TTC to shame), and tell me subways aren’t needed.
Subways?
Odds are that any city that really does need a subway system …. already has one.
It’s the BS about building subways where they will not be used or needed that is getting the criticism.
BTW … Toronto .. GoTrains …. miles of track that extend well out to the smaller towns been there for 100 years … unused becuase the government is more interested in peddling phony energy schemes than actually doing anything usefull. Also on the GoTrains … not enough rail cars cars to meet demand…. why?
Not enough parking at commuter stations …. why?
Toronto Transit … subsidized public transport … works great … until the overpaid louts who operate the system get their ritual consequence free opportunity to piss on the public that pays them.
Privatize these operations and see what happens.
Have fun riding ‘yer bikes, Obamaniacs!
We’ll be drivin’ Chevy 454’s goin’ 130 miles per hour!
america is addicted to oil in all senses of meaning.
alta tar sands will continue to sell south of the 49th.
I must say, I’m getting truly sick of Obama….
Simon- They’ll probably be Fords. Remember who owns Chevy.
The Canada Pension Plan holding a stake in oilsands development….I love it! Leftard heads exploding in 3..2..1.
Syncro
Indeed, syncro, that’s the best part of this story. Just think. With every paycheque a leftard receives, he’s supporting the “tar” sands. That almost cancels out my being miffed about having to pay for Mother Corpse. hehehehehe!
Screw Obama!!! Plenty of others who like our oil & Gas.
Nice investment for pensions if the government keeps its hands off the increase.
More people should invest in Sask. Industry as well.
Its got no where to go but up.
The way things are going, the US won’t be able to afford our oil. We can sell it to China – they’ll have money – so long as Iggy Pop and the Stooges don’t prevent us from using the northern tanker route.
Dirty Oil-
“Hey Babe!”
“That Unicorn Obama promised to send has finally arrived,
harness her ass to the windmill.”
Dirty Oil-
“Hey Dear!”
“That Unicorn Obama promised to send has finally arrived,
harness her to the windmill.”
The good people of Alberta have nothing to fear from Obama. You have to remember who Obama answers to, of course not the US taxpayer, George Soros whose hedge fund increased there ownership in Suncor by 22% back on June 9th.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/209263-soros-is-bullish-on-petrobras-suncor-and-directv
Remember George got Obama to give the Brazilian oil Company Petrobra billions of dollars so that they can expand off shore drilling just last year, and what a coincidence George owns tons of Petrobra Stock!
So if Obama was really going to try to do in the Canadian oil sands do you really think George would have bought more stock in it last month? Nope Obama ain’t going to do shit to any oil company OUTSIDE of the US, except give them more money possibly, his sugar daddy George would be upset.
Maybe the oil companies should reach out to the Muslim world as their ‘foremost’ mission after the extraction of oil?
That should make it all good.
Just reading Jeff Rubin’s book “Why Your World is about to Get A Whole Lot Smaller” on the world’s dwindling oil supply and now is using more expensive sites like the oil sands. He predicates that we will be turning to a Europe type of oil usage, vastly higher prices forcing much reduced usage of oil. Of course this implies a much greater dependency on transit to get around, which of course politicians never had a plan in Toronto to implement over the years.
The key thing is his book is the high price of oil will kill long range shipping of all products and force local manufacturing and food growth to start up again.
Its obvious the globalist puppet in the Whitehouse wants Canada to adopt his commie cap and trade economic rip off – – he’ll break trade agreements and resource supply agreements to do it.
So be it. Two can play that game and the US is in NO shape to lose it’s greatest trade ally.
Say how’s that dollar doin’ Barry?
Its obvious the globalist puppet in the Whitehouse wants Canada to adopt his commie cap and trade economic rip off – – he’ll break trade agreements and resource supply agreements to do it.
So be it. Two can play that game and the US is in NO shape to lose it’s greatest trade ally.
Say how’s that dollar doin’ Barry?
So next Obamugabe will be telling Thugo Chavez and Soros to desist from bringing in Chinese expertise and money to develop Venezuela’s huge oil sands as well? Sure he will. CO2 is so climate-changey, so moronic, so yesterday, so appealing to his anti capitalist, Luddite marxist base.
Obamassiah doesn’t need the Oil Sands . . . he’s got the Oil Beaches.
The man is terminally stupid, but Jimmy Carter is very happy.
The article was from 2008?
This President has to be the most socially inept and incompetent the USA has had in some time.
He should never badmouth a friend like Canada, when the USA will need help in the future.
I mean, how much damage can a one-term President do?
God, it’s like a bad dream. How could anyone that ignorant about the world around him get elected to ANYTHING?
I know how. Because the ones who elected him are even more ignorant.
Meanwhile, in the real world, China continues to eat Barry’s lunch.
The money line . . .
“the largest known crude deposit outside the Middle East”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100707/sc_afp/chinacanadaenergyoilinvest
The fundamental American dilemma:
US daily consumption is 21 million barrels a day.
US daily domestic production is six million barrels a day.
So 15 million barrels has to come from somewhere else.
The Middle East, Russia or Canada?
Your choice, my American friends.
“Obamassiah doesn’t need the Oil Sands . . . he’s got the Oil Beaches.”
Good one!
Investing CPP funds in the oil sands is BRILLIANT!!!
Perhaps all those retired econazis receiving CPP will immediately choose to forego “dirty” pension money on principle,* leaving an even bigger pot of funds for the rest of us!
* Ha! As if!
JJM, hope you are right.
A related article in the Globe & Mail this morning. French energy giant buys into oil sands. I guess Obamessiah will have to pick a number.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/french-energy-giant-total-buying-calgarys-uts/article1631201/
Will the Tor Red Star have a dilemma?
ObaMarxist had better pray that the Strait of Hormuz stays open. The US is probably in the most precarious energy and economic situation in their history…..much of it caused by Obama himself. A true moron.
Ah, it’s just Bambi flapping his gums again. Discount 99% of anything he says.
So 15 million barrels has to come from somewhere else?
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Hey back off!
We might not need Canada.
We get almost one percent of our energy from natural gas, windmills, bio fuels, etc.
Henry Waxman – some people curse is being themselves – wants to shutdown the pipeline. Fine we could also shut down the pipeline that supplies Illinois with all their petroleum. Now lets see who comes from there? Oh! Thats right Obama. Or could he mean the pipelines that supplies California with 20% of their Natural Gas. Now who lives there? Oh! He does. If you shut down Alberta you shut down 2/3 of
Canad and all the West Coast. The last time I checked we were not using guns to make people by our product that said if you plan to stop us from developing that what everyone needs then you best bring some. Now that would be interesting Oil Patch workers against spoiled greenies. I would pay money to see that.
O’Bama sounds like an addicted smoker (which he is) who says every day, I have to quite this habit, but not today.
O’Bama and all the other environmentalists are complete hypocrites. They all use and and rely on fossils fuels for their upscale life styles that include all sorts of materials and goods but don’t understand the connection all that has to fossil fuel.
They are all dull witted too I guess. But then, we already know that about them.
As the Middle East becomes freakier the cost of doing business there goes up. Saudi, Kuwait, etc. pump oil out of the ground for something like $2 a barrel delivered to the dock. Stick a pipe in the ground, attach a pump and you’re in business.
But if you have to spend money protecting your workers, protecting the ships, greasing the odd Saudi prince here and there, blah blah blah, pretty soon the production cost starts to look like… Alberta!
Syncrude et al produces for something like $30-$40 a barrel, and there’s no PIRATES shooting at tankers to worry about. Just a nice, predictable delivery schedule and enforceable contracts.
Naturally, Barry and the Dems are against this. Because their purpose is to drive the USA back to the 19th Century, with them cast as Lord of the Manor to everybody else’s tenant farmer. Maybe some slaves too, who knows with these guys?
November cometh. I plan on taking my Arizona vacation in December, -after- the excitement. Besides, I frickin’ hate our modern Walmart Christmas, so missing all the mega-intense marketing will be -excellent-.
Good point on GM ownsership, Warren Z. However: Chevy 454’s are no longer produced by US taxpayer-owned GM; they were discontinued in the mid 90s. Therefore, every Chevy 454 in operation today was produced by accountable people in the private sector, and allah willing, will be maintained by the same.
As for contemporary GM products, I would never buy one.
The US isn’t running out of oil, its enjoying the benefits of self-inflicted Green Hell and as a consequence, funding both sides of the Jihad as a bonus. The Colorado Oil Shales represent huge reserves and even using Shell’s technology, is apparently profitable at $60/ barrel. Think how that could be reduced if instead of electric heaters down the boreholes they used free spent nuclear fuel rods which could cook out oil for hundreds of years. The resources and technology are there but lacking is a collective IQ which can stand up to the Watermelons who now have an institutional hold on the US. And for anyone who thinks more bureaucrats, litigators and regulations are the answer for the environment or anything else, take a good look at the Gulf clean up flustercluck.
vindicated.
everywhere except sda.
when everyone else is an asshole, maybe they’re not the problem.
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/07/07/climategate-report-east-anglia.html
That asstard STILL hasn’t heard about Climategate? His keepers must be filtering his Net feeds.
beagle, maybe we know about the report, but we read this bit right here: “The inquiry by former civil servant Muir Russell…”
Because like, a former civil servant of the Labour government would NEVER do the convenient thing, right? Right?
Who am I going to believe beagle, Muir Russell or my own Mark 1 eyeball?
Simon and Warren Z, Chevy 454s are nice. But for the real deal, you want a Buick 425. Oh BABY!
Good post John Chittick.
Let’s hear it for watermelon utopia. Yes, we’ll recede the oceans if we just end our “addiction” to oil. Is that anything like our “addiction” to say, food?
We will need to continue to use large quantities of fossil fuels into the foreseable future (think 50 years +). Any attempt to impose systemic alternative fuels use will destroy the world economic system.
IOW it isn’t going to happen. Once the collectivists reach into the taxpayer wallet (an inevitability), they’ll get slapped back big time. Wait for it.
This idiotic debate over climate change (with acual pollution proliferation staring us in the face) has done nothing, zero, to reduce dependence on fossil fuels.
We’ve wasted an entire decade when we could have enacted meaningful environmental measures, such as nuclear power, public transit, actual recycling etc, etc.
It’s probably easier to let Chinese pollution growth outstrip entire western countrys’ output, then blame the “tar” sands.
BTW, love to see the total carbon footprint math on the “3X ghg output” claim; Left and right side of the equation, please.
beagle, this is probably pointless to point out, as arguing with watermelons is about as interesting as watching paint dry and accomplishes even less (you can’t argue with faith), but East Anglia has already appointed their own investigative boards and cleared themselves of all wrongdoing a couple times. This is the third time I believe.
IOW, completely unethical and an obvious conflict of interest, that, if it were occurring in the opposite sides of the partisan coin, the left and the MSM would be all over it.
Lefties – rampant ignorance.
“We’ve wasted an entire decade when we could have enacted meaningful environmental measures, such as nuclear power, public transit, actual recycling etc, etc.”
More likely we’ve wasted twenty years thinking public transit and recycling are anything other than an expensive and stupid waste of time.
Nuclear power I could stand seeing more of, particularly if used to crack oil out of the tar sands.
All things considered, what I’d like to see most is clean coal tech and -cheap- plasma arc reduction of hazardous waste. Better to burn it clean than dump it. Making oil out of slaughterhouse waste has a certain charm too, but that one is a long way from being financially feasible at $75/barrel of crude.
“More likely we’ve wasted twenty years thinking public transit and recycling are anything other than an expensive and stupid waste of time.”
Why? Proof? What is so expensive about recycling? What is wrong with the concept of public transit?
“Nuclear power I could stand seeing more of, particularly if used to crack oil out of the tar sands.”
This statement is absolutely ridiculous…why would you use a very good, very energy rich source like nuclear (HUGE EROI) in order to get energy out of a very poor, very expensive and energy intensive source (EXTREMELY low EROI…the lowest of all possible energy sources)?
“why would you use a very good, very energy rich source like nuclear (HUGE EROI) in order to get energy out of a very poor, very expensive and energy intensive source [tarsands]”
Try pouring a tankful of nuclear energy into your Jetta and you might understand.
Idle threats. The first article only discusses the down side for Canada. We’re in a much stronger bargaining position than the Americans would like us to think. I’m sure Canada’s Left eating this up though; kneeling and praying for Obama to rescue us from ourselves.
I’ve recently thought to my self that the anti-American sentiment in Canada’s Left might come back to bite them in the arse. In my view, BO would gladly use “dirty oil” if it was drilled in Blue States. Furthermore, I believe it could very likely be the Leftist’s wet dream if Canada dumped the Loony for the Greenback and perhaps even to get rid of the boarder altogether. It would suit Leftists on both sides of the boarder because it would satisfy the S&M fetish of America’s Left; and, alleviate their energy concerns. While at the same time giving Canada’s Left the opportunity to perform the Lewinski for the BIG man in the Whitehouse. So there’s the irony, perhaps one day having to tear down the anti-Americanism hurdle that the Left has worked so hard to erect.
I’m hopeful for November elections, but I’m doubtful that the newly elected Reps will have the desire, will, or capabilities of changing the general direction of the ship bearing Left. I think we’re in for a long, long journey, and I can only hope our Captain here in Canada can wade these waters successfully. I fear that soon we might have too many Captains and not enough ship-hands, and no f’n chance.
How did we American’s elect this fool?
Jezzzzzz
beagle…..Ken Lay “vindicated” Enron accounting practices too. What’s your point?
And the Enviros are responsible for Toronto’s partial blackout:
http://www.financialpost.com/opinion/columnists/3247806/story.html
The Phantom Intelligence:
More likely we’ve wasted twenty years thinking public transit and recycling are anything other than an expensive and stupid waste of time.
Oh, really? Tried to get around Toronto during the last transit strike, did you? Well, actually, the 2008 strike started at midnight Friday night, and the union was ordered back to work on Sunday, so the effect wasn’t as horrible as it might have been.
But the one day strike on Monday, May 29 in 2006 left over a million people who normally use the TTC every freakin’ day trying to get to work. The city ground to a standstill. But transit is just a waste of time, right?
The DVP carries about 100,000 cars each way, each weekday. So, what’s your brilliant solution, Phantom? TEN MORE DVP’s in Toronto? Nice idea, except where would you put them and still leave room for things like buildings and homes and parks? Get a map, and try it genius. There isn’t enough room, and TTC ridership has increased by 50% in the last ten years. Even if we don’t get a David Miller clone as mayor, there isn’t enough space downtown to park another 200,000 cars a day (as anyone who doesn’t have a reserved space can well attest), unless you want to raze the whole waterfront, and build parking garages that sit empty 60% of the time. Wow, that’s an intelligent use of space.
The only city of more than 2 million that I can think of that doesn’t have a truly functional subway system is LA, and that’s because LA doesn’t really have a centre (plus, I think a lot of people are scared of being caught in a subway during an earthquake, but that’s just anecdotal). Yes, it’s got a piddly “downtown” that we’ve all seen in the movies, but in reality, their downtown core isn’t as big as Montreal’s, let alone NYC or Chicago. Every other good sized city in the world that is recognized as livable has a decent subway, but I guess everyone in the world is wrong about it but you, eh?
Oh, BTW, I’ve spent a fair amount of time in Manila, where the generally screwed up government has managed to build a single elevated railway line. It took us two hours one time to go from midtown Manila to Makati – a distance of about 10 km – because the traffic was so bad. In truth, it would have been faster to walk, except for the heat and the crime. Go and spend a week there, and then a week in Seoul (where the subways put the TTC to shame), and tell me subways aren’t needed.
Subways?
Odds are that any city that really does need a subway system …. already has one.
It’s the BS about building subways where they will not be used or needed that is getting the criticism.
BTW … Toronto .. GoTrains …. miles of track that extend well out to the smaller towns been there for 100 years … unused becuase the government is more interested in peddling phony energy schemes than actually doing anything usefull. Also on the GoTrains … not enough rail cars cars to meet demand…. why?
Not enough parking at commuter stations …. why?
Toronto Transit … subsidized public transport … works great … until the overpaid louts who operate the system get their ritual consequence free opportunity to piss on the public that pays them.
Privatize these operations and see what happens.