When watching the coverage of the intl. media I noticed that the boat people are chanting. Fair haired and bright eyed “human rights activists” from all over the world who are sure they are doing the right thing are sitting hand in hand and chanting in Arabic:
Haibar Haibar ya Yahud – Jaish Muhammad Sa’ufa Ya’ud
… it does appear that the physical violence started from the other side, which to begin with had the rather unhumanitarian mission of aiding Hamas, and, to the extent there were sincere humanitarian/peace activists involved, allowed themselves to get hijacked by violent Islamic extremists who manned one of the ships.
And then there are the friends in the White House. One can only hope November comes soon enough.
More commentary here and here: – A Brutal Ambush At Sea.
The paintballs obviously made no impression on the activists, who kept on beating the troops up and even attempted to wrest away their weapons.
One soldier who came to the aid of a comrade was captured by the rioters and sustained severe blows. The commandoes were equipped with handguns but were told they should only use them in the face of life-threatening situations. When they came down from the chopper, they kept on shouting to each other “don’t shoot, don’t shoot,” even though they sustained numerous blows.
The Navy commandoes were prepared to mostly encounter political activists seeking to hold a protest, rather than trained street fighters. The soldiers were told they were to verbally convince activists who offer resistance to give up, and only then use paintballs. They were permitted to use their handguns only under extreme circumstances. …
At one point, the attackers nabbed one commando, wrested away his handgun, and threw him down from the top deck to the lower deck, 30 feet below. The soldier sustained a serious head wound and lost his consciousness.
Only after this injury did Flotilla 13 troops ask for permission to use live fire. The commander approved it: You can go ahead and fire. The soldiers pulled out their handguns and started shooting at the rioters’ legs, a move that ultimately neutralized them. Meanwhile, the rioters started to fire back at the commandoes.
Video in the extended entry.
A proverb says “it is easy to find a stick when you want to beat a dog”. Couple this with the fact lefties love a good Jew beating to keep their self-righteous assholier than thou juices flowing. It would not be unreasonable to assume at least 20 muslims were put to death by sharia law today for such heinous crimes as being homosexual or being raped or converting to Christianity. The numb nutted lefty useful idiots never speak out about against that. But if Israel warns “activists” that she will not tolerate the chance of weapons getting into Israel to terrorize her citizens and that she will protect herself by force if necessary, Israel is the bad guy. No fair minded person believes the “demonstrators” would not bring weapons into Israel on “humanitarian aid” ships. Israel will not abandon the right to protect her citizens because to do so would lead to the destruction of the Israeli state and the destruction of its Jewish citizens.
The Turbot War incident went to court. Actually, two courts, national and international. Unlikely the Israeli actions ever will.
They raided in international waters because that was the last opportunity to do it in the preferred conditions, ie the pre-dawn hours. If they hadn’t, the flotilla would have made port in Gaza today.
WRT the legal aspect: according to the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflict at Sea, Part III, Section V, para 67(a), the fact that the flotilla had the stated intention of running the blockade gives Israel the right to act, whether in international waters or not.
Much is being made about the Israeli forces striking in international waters.
Smart move.
As EWS notes they have no choice.
Syncro
After spending the day reading and watching the MSM’s take on this, I prematurely took down the Stars and Stripes (flown for Memorial Day)and unfurled the Israeli flag.
I can only hope a Pali drives past and sees it.
Indiana Homez,
Not only did they have it coming but they got it going, too.
Facts:
-Israel offered to let the “aid” offload for inspection and then transfer to Gaza
-The “Floaties” refused to accept the offer
-The “Floaties” stated the intention to run the blockade
-The “Floaties” had 6 ships of which 5 were peacefully boarded without incident by the Israelis
-The Israelis were met with organized violent resistance on 1 out of 6 ships
At this moment in time the arguement that Israel was defending itself is not the relevent point.
The pro arab initiative has framed itself as the underdog and it’s working for them.
Much like the ship Exodus which was the story of the Israeli settlers trying to land by ship many years ago.
Israel is not doing well in the propoganda war and they need to do something drastic to change that.
For those of us who care, we need to remind our fellow Canadians that Jews didn’t crash planes into the world trade center, nor bomb trains in Spain and so on.
The minute detail with regard to what actually happened is not as important as the picture the media paints with the incident.
It really is a propoganda war and Those who want a peaceful world need to work hard to combat the CBC kind of anti-Israeli rhetoric.
I gave up on Mr Obama even before his election becuase I believe he will sell out anyone and everyone to further his extreme left wing agenda.
All of us need to write, phone in and remind everyone of the continued tactic of killing used by Hamas and Hesbullah.
Posted by: JCP at May 31, 2010 6:08 PM
flotilla had the stated intention of running the blockade gives Israel the right to act, whether in international waters or not.
Thanks, JCP, for this key info!
More generally, we must remember that contrary to the marxist propaganda which has overtaken the West, Israel is David not Goliath.
If I’m not mistaken Israel took the first shots in 1973. Some lefties cite this as evidence of Israeli aggression. NOT.
Right you are mel, “perception is everything”.
Harpers first impressions:
Harper regrets deaths in Israeli attack on aid convoy
Netanyahu cancels visit with U.S. President Barack Obama
http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Harper+regrets+deaths+Israeli+attack+convoy/3091901/story.html
Another shipload of puppies and candy is intercepted.
This was an international act of maritime law violation, murder, and terrorism.
This was an international act of maritime law violation, murder, and terrorism.
These are the international laws even in Canada,
some countries are up to 200 miles out at sea-
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See what the law states:
12 June 1994
SECTION V : NEUTRAL MERCHANT VESSELS AND CIVIL AIRCRAFT
Neutral merchant vessels-
67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:
(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or (breaching a blockade,)
and after prior warning (they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop,)-
or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture”
These ships tried to breach the blockade; they ignored clear warnings to stop; they intentionally resisted visit, search and capture.
The next Peace activist ship that tries to breach Israelis blockade or cross their international borders needs to be blown out of the water.
We will send President Obama to clean up any oily spots.
President Obama needs to take a lesson from the Israelis on how to protect your borders..
released video from auz.tv
http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2010/06/01/2914627.htm
How does one fight a guy that wants –actually, hopes– to die while trying to kill you? To maximize his chance, he brings a stick and attack you violently, knowing you have a firearm.
If you let him kill you, he and all his kind will rejoice and similar attacks will multiply. If you kill him, the whole world condemns you and accuses you of massacre. Either way, you lose.
Now, imagine 62 years of that. Every day.
Let’s juxtapose this:
Audrey Bomse, also of the FGM, told the BBC that the activists were “not going to pose any violent resistance”.
With this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo
What I can’t understand is why the hell the Israelis would board the ship by rappeling troops off a Helicopter instead of boarding the ship via a gunboat?
What possible security or retreat could the troops have had?
The Israelis should have sunk the damned boat. The outrage wouldn’t have been diminished and a much stronger message would have been sent.
I stand with Israel.
What I can’t understand is why the hell the Israelis would board the ship by rappeling troops off a Helicopter instead of boarding the ship via a gunboat?
Gunboats cannot safely maneuver side-by-side with ships in the open seas without risking collision and damaging one ship or both.
If the commandos were trying to board from a smaller boat along side the freighters, it gives the people on the larger freighter a position of tactical superiority which allows them to rain heavy objects down on the commandos boats/heads or, if the people on the larger freighter have firearms, it gives them the tactical advantage of grazing fire and the ability to kill all of the commandos because if any of their shots strike the target from above, they will be striking the head or vital organs with the bullets passing down through body from above before the round expends it’s energy into the target.
Rappeling from above is the safest way to board in a tactical situation.
I’m sure the helicopter troop transports had helicoter gunship escorts or at least door gunners on the troop transports with heavy machineguns and possibly rocket pods.
“How does one fight a guy that wants –actually, hopes– to die while trying to kill you? To maximize his chance, he brings a stick and attack you violently, knowing you have a firearm.
If you let him kill you, he and all his kind will rejoice and similar attacks will multiply. If you kill him, the whole world condemns you and accuses you of massacre. Either way, you lose.
Now, imagine 62 years of that. Every day.”
Very well said Manny
More here:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/terror-finance-flotilla
Israel is in a no-win situation as far as public opinion goes. They will be condemned no matter what they do. They are fighting for their very existence.
I Stand with Israel. If I was yonger I would go over and join their army. God protect Israel.
True, Terry, unfortunately true. Even a few people here seemed to have taken the bait. Had the Israelis sunk the ship, the carefully calculated outrage would be the same.
Just looking over at the Mother Corp. board, and, sad to say, there appears to be a huge number of anti-semites and closet Nazis in Canada.
Also, as a side note, on the tube at dinnertime, I saw one Zoe Blunt on the ceeb, ‘activist’ was her label, snivelling about the whole thing, as one of the ‘shields’ was a friend of hers…..Blunt is well known here in Victoria (not her real name of course) as your typical anti-everything, get your name in the press, self-sacrificing welfare momma. Check out her webpage, she’s a self-described anarchist…..nice to see what our system spits out, and supports with welfare!
I ‘spose the bright side is that the commandos didn’t torpedo the ship and then machine gun all the survivors in the water.
I understand that one of the Canadians who was probably resisting Israeli special forces is missing and likely received his just desserts.
The news coverage today is interesting. Bloomberg radio is reporting it as an “unprovoked attack on a humanitarian aid convoy”.
I don’t think I need to comment further on that, given the video above.
el gordo, just wondering if you remember anything else that was going on in 1967 besides the USS Liberty attack… other than Montreal Expo, of course.
I am sooo tired of listening to Sunil Ram on CKNW. The guy even went so far as to use the term “Zionist” to describe supporters of Israel. Maybe it’s just me but I’ve found that people who use the term “Zionist” just don’t have the guts to yell “JOOOOOOS”. What really gets me is the minimal background check these news services do. Ram teaches at couple of “distance learning” institutes like http://www.peaceopstraining.org/about_us/ and http://www.amu.apus.edu/academic/faculty-members/bio/237/sunil-v-ram. He get totally ripped for fluffing his resume on the Army.ca boards (http://forums.navy.ca/forums/index.php?topic=65100.0). How the hell does this guy get air time? I guess an accent and the “correct” background go a long way…
Torpedo the ships, blame North Korea.
Good stuff from the webs – refreshingly not generated by the Volkischer Beobachter in this case:
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Over the past two years, the Navy has turned back a number of boats dispatched by the Free Gaza movement while also allowing a few to deliver their goods.
Either way, the group continues to label Israeli policies toward Gaza “outrageous, cruel and violent,” while failing to note rocket attacks or activities against Israel by Hamas and other Gaza-based terror cells.
According to the most recent posting on the Free Gaza movement’s website, a 1200-ton cargo ship, named after the late international activist Rachel Corrie, has set sail from Ireland to meet up with the “eight-vessel Freedom Flotilla” carrying construction material, medical equipment and school supplies.
Corrie died on March 16, 2003, after dropping to her knees in front of an Israeli bulldozer clearing underbrush to uncover bombs near the Rafah border crossing with the Gaza Strip.
While an investigation determined that the driver was unable to see her, the activists, who had defied orders to leave the area, successfully promoted the accident as murder.
Israel, which has continued to deliver supplies to Gaza residents, insists there is no humanitarian crisis there.
Last week the IDF transferred 14,000 tons of fuel, food, medical supplies and equipment, clothing and animal feed to the Strip.
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I hate hippies – especially Nazi hippies.
cal2- went to link and what is shown is disturbing.
God bless the Israeli servicemen and women and their families.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the Israelis who await the coming of their Messiah, Jeshua.
Come, Lord Jesus.
“I hate hippies – especially Nazi hippies.”
Well, that’s my favorite quote today.
@Black Mamba: My pleasure. As soon as I heard about the flotilla, I knew what would happen. This was a carefully planned act of provocation designed to cause exactly the sort of anti-Israel outcry from concerned *lobotomy victims* worldwide.
Just in case anyone thinks this is *exclusively* about doe-eyed hippie morons:
The Interior Ministry listed the detainees as being from Australia (3), Azeberbaijan(2), Italy (6),Indonesia (12), Ireland (9), Algeria (28), United States (11), Bulgaria (2), Bosnia (1), Bahrain (4), Belgium (5), Germany (11), South Africa (1), Holland (2), United Kingdom (31) Greece (38), Jordan (30), Kuwait (15), Lebanon (3), Mauritania (3), Malaysia (11), Egypt (3), Macedonia (3), Morocco (7), Norway (3), New Zealand (1), Syria (3), Serbia (1), Oman (1), Pakistan (3), the Czech Republic (4), France (9), Kosovo (1), Canada (1), Sweden (11), and Yemen (4).
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Yes – you can see why so many GREEKS would see Muslims, Turks in particular, as their allies. Jesus wept…but happily only one Canadian Einsatzgruppen member.
There’s a reason the country is called “Turkey”, people!
There seem to have been several German lefty politicians aboard this flotilla. While I admit that this is not strictly rational (hey, I’m a chick), I strongly feel that no German has a moral right to take any stand against Israel, ever. Get back to me in 100 years about that one.
Let them stop trying to exorcize their ancestral guilt by projecting it onto their victims.
Black Mamba, right on! And lest anyone forget: scratch an anti-Israel activist and…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thivierr/3186440406/
Ah God, it just gets worse: a list of `British citizens` aboard the flotilla – please note the names…and enough from me, my cynicism meter is redlining.
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Muslim News has published an (unconfirmed) list of British citizens it says were in the Gaza flotilla:
Laura Macdonald Stuart
Ebrahim Musaji
Jamal Sayed
Parveen Yaqub
Baboo Adem Zanghar
Ahsan Shamruk
Mustafa Cengiz Ahmet
Tauqir Sharif
Boudejma Bounoua
Mohammad Bounoua
Sakir Yildirim
Kenneth O’Keefe
Ali El-Awaisi
Mohammed Bhaiyat
Lort Phillips Alexandra Mary
Sarah Nancy Colborne
Ismail Adam Patel
Nader Daher
Mahi Mohammed Abid
Nur-E-Azom Choudhury
Kevin Ovenden
Peter Venner
Clifford Gardner Hanley
Muzzammil Layth Chogley
Jamaluddin Mohammad Farid Elshayyal
Hassan Al Banna Ghani
Lazrag Salah
Ali Altan
I rarely post, but this media reaction just has me fuming!
Someone above mentioned the Tobin fisheries thing. Fast forward to Aug 2000, when heavily armed Canadian Forces dropped from helicopters with two destroyers flanking to forcefully board a US owned ship in international waters that was holding a large quantity of our military materials hostage over a payment dispute. Don’t think for one second our boys wouldn’t have done the exact same thing the Israeli’s did here.
2nd, laws of the sea give a country jurisdiction to enforce it’s laws up to 200 miles out in its EEZ. UNCLOS article 101.
Oh, and let me add Military forces routinely, likely daily, board merchant vessels in the Gulf of Arabia in international waters without incident searching for contraband.
The ISM was involved … of course….
The same SOBs who set up the useful idiot Rachel Corrie a few years ago.
http://www.stoptheism.com/
ET. It’s my understanding that the reason Israel’s forces took this action as far out to sea as they did is because if they let the convoy get with 15-20 miles from Gaza then they would have had to deal with an abundance of fishing vessels, demonstrators, etc. They acted in such a way that they wanted to keep any trouble to a minimum.
@OMMAG – long before I discovered the joyful community that is SDA, I remember reading about Corrie referred to as “Saint Rachel of IHOP, patron saint of roadkill” – because she was flat like a pancake, y’see – and laughing so hard I nearly fell out of my chair. Some really funny comments about how drug abuse had made her forget that steel isn’t transparent, and so forth.
I imagine that some might see her deliberate propaganda suicide as tragic. I agree – so long as we are defining tragedy as “incorrigible muleheaded self-congratulatory stupidity”. Here’s a pic of her teaching Palestinian kids how to scrawl, then burn, a US flag: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bjbarron/blogfiles/rage_a3.jpg