Hopefully mother Britain can be saved from total destruction. http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/politics-and-government/don%27t-panic/
I can’t believe how many people voted Labour. Presumably, since the Tories will rightly axe many state jobs for those who are superfluously employed (and freeze salaries, like the Greeks), pretty much the entire public sector has probably voted Labour. The self-interest of those who do government paperwork for a living yet provide very little if anything that people actually need is one of the most destructive forces in the world today.
Goodbye Tony Blair’s Britain hello Tony Blair’s Britain.
Agreed.
Simon, I would add to your analysis the huge numbers of UK people on the dole, welfare and a myriad of subsidies that would have supported Labour. An average of 60% of economic activity is driven by government spending. I doubt Cameron has the courage or the political power to make the cuts to get the UK on a sound financial footing, that would take a Thatcher.
Not much consolation. Cameron is no conservative. Hope he comes around once in power.
All you have to do is listen to what Cameron says and you know he’s a weenie just like the rest of the decendants of the once-proud Brits.
But Labour isn’t giving up the fight just yet. They’re still trying to remain in power but with somebody as a coalition partner. We’ll see how that goes over.
Britain: what Canada wants to be when it grows up.
UK Tories can best be compared to Iffie’s libs … pro-AGW; pro-EU; pro-mass im-mo-gration; pro-nanny state; classic Euro-philes.
Cue the molesting of foxes. 🙂
Just delaying the inevitable . . . too many brits addicted to their entitlements.
Just like our Liberals & dippers. He won’t be able to turn off the spigots before the UK runs out of borrowing.
Come back to us Maggie Thatcher, Winston Churchill, William Gladstone, David Lloyd George. The West is truly in its sunset.
The UK is just Iceland without the curtain pulled back. I would have figured they went before Greece. We shall see.
A mustard thumb print on the pages of history.
On balance, this is probably the least worst option, so hurray, limeys rejoice!
Less than a year to the next election.
Briton has been sliding into the toilet ever since Margaret Thatcher left politics and from what I have seen and heard of the current politicians of all parties over there they have little hope of stopping the flow.
A few of Maggie’s famous Thatcherisms:
To cure the British disease with socialism was like trying to cure leukaemia with leeches.
Margaret Thatcher
If my critics saw me walking over the Thames they would say it was because I couldn’t swim.
Margaret Thatcher
To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects.
Margaret Thatcher
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
The parallels to Canada’s 2006 election are many. The narrow minority win, 13 years of entitled power, an opportunistic minor (NDP) party and similar seat percentages. One difference is that Paul Martin resigned immediately after losing, while Brown delayed and tried to hang on. Brown made a huge mistake here by his desperate attempt to clutch onto power. Martin did the right thing by resigning, but I think many Liberals had regrets. These regrets led the Liberals to attempt the “three stooges Coalition” in 2008. These parallels and regrets likely had a hand in Brown’s foolish move to hang on to power when he clearly lost.
Next move will be a groundswell for proportional representation. That will be the ultimate downfall of the entire democratic process.
If only Cameron had some role model he could follow? Perhaps some highly respected and capable Conservative Prime Minister leading a minority government in a Parliamentary Democracy while leading his country to to solid economic footing while fending off relentless and baseless attacks from every entitled socialist group and most of the press could show the way. Does anyone you know fit that description?
Me thinks PMSH is about to get get much attention from the British.
This is from a British tabloid I’m not familiar with at all – People – but anyway, it seems legit and it concerns Margaret Thatcher’s opinion of David Cameron.
(Apparently she doesn’t think that much of him.)
With the Tories in power the UK will undoubtedly continue its sad decline, albeit ever so slightly more slowly than under Labour. Not much to get excited about.
I don’t think they’ll have time to marvel at the PMSH balancing act. They don’t have provinces in the UK to run health care, education and highways. Their federal government is just about all the government they have, other than some regional authorities and the immensely powerful Scottish parliament which can rule on the strength of haggis and other matters.
In other words, this coalition between the Cons and the SDA will last about six months, go tits up, and then there will be another election where hopefully the people will eliminate the muddleman altogether.
It doesn’t matter who the titular head of government may be. Great (formerly great) Britain is f–cked. It is Greece writ large – a nation of paper-pushing bureaucrats, overbearing cops and multitudes of professional pogey gatherers who live high on the hog. Its justice system is the object of international mirth and seems to be run for (by?) the criminal element. It produces little of value, and the proceeds from anything that is produced are largely taxed away and tossed into the maw of the bureaucracy. So sad.
Did you watch his speech? Listen to what he said? No notes. He is impressive. King Obamses would have come across as a blathering idiot.
Doug,
British politicians always sound better…..a love of their own language is part of the education system and culture. That stopped being the way in the US and Canada many moons ago.
But as for the content…..if he backs the words up with proper action maybe there is hope. The focus on fixing things and the word responsibility (which he repeated many times) caught my attention.
But like many hear, he is no Thatcher, which is fine since Thatcher was no Churchill, but he seems to have bought himself a 4 year mandate…as long as “Cleggover” (a man with many paramours) doesnt pull out at first advantage. Given Clegg’s behaviour during negotiations I would always be concened about that.
Now the Tories made gains in wales, the question is are there any Scottish conservatives left? Or, like Quebec have the nationalists (which are urban left dominated) blinded their countrymen?
The major concern is Cameron’s decision to make Lib-Dem leader Nick Clegg his deputy, to lavish a grossly disproportionate number of cabinet and sub-cabinet positions on the relative handful of Lib-Dem MPs,take off the table from the outset a number of key policy initiatives, and promise a referendum on proportional representation.
Leaving Labour to cobble together an unholy coalition with Lib-Dems, Scottish Nationalists, Welsh Nationalists (and maybe even Sinn Fein) and the Green Lady from Brighton might have left them better able to fight an election that would come sooner than later.
Hmmm… distracted. Last sentence should read “might have left the Tories better able to fight an election …”
Given the many reports of voter fraud, which the constabulary is investigating, it is difficult to really guage the amount or lack of it that Cameron has.
Given that, so far, the fraud finger is pointed at labour—there could be some musical chairs play in the HOC yet.
It would take 10 years to undo what Blair and Co alone have done to Britain. When the current trio of neo-Liberals are through it will be even worse.
Stephen said “.. are there any Scottish conservatives left?”
There are lots of them left. Unfortunately for Britain they emigrated.
It’s times like these for which I reserve this exclamation: “Thank the f**k christ.”
Richard, you do have enough intelligence to know that is offensive to a great many people?
To be honest I don’t see the coalition lasting the distance. The liberals do not have the stomach for the pain that has to be inflicted. Sadly the British public and hundreds of thousands of bogus asylum seekers and illegal immigrants have become addicted to welfare and the Conservatives will struggle to push through any meaningful cuts.
I foresee another election, maybe as early as October. The liberals will be wiped out, but unless Cameron does more to appease the Euro skeptics he will not benefit. It is even possible the sewer party (Labour) under a new leader could regain office. Eventually they will have to get a real Conservative leader who will make the necessary savage cuts in welfare, because as it stands Britain is circling the toilet bowl.
UK politics has become a bit of a joke. I watched one of the debates, and all three men came across as total charlatans – complete fakes, men with smooth talk and fancy ties but nothing under the hood.
The Brits with brains and who can see the writing on the wall are leaving the UK. In Kelowna, British Columbia, hardly a day goes by when I don’t bump into another Brit family who has left the UK. Glad to have them here.
Rule Britannia no more – the country has lost its spine. Last one turn the lights out. The empire is well and truly done. The Muslims will fill the void that is left.
Warren Z is right in saying “Goodbye Tony Blair’s Britain hello Tony Blair’s Britain”.
About all the Brits managed to do is change Commissars.
A number of comments above about Britons coming to Canada.
One of the free papers in Toronto today reported that a majority of Britons considering emigration chose Canada as their number 1 destination.
Now, the question is are these people fleeing non-working socialism, or are they coming here because they think we’ve got working socialism?
It’s Australia as the number one destination for Brits emigrating.
Why not disallow government workers from voting and also people on welfare. Or how about 1 vote per $20,000 of income with one vote removed for every $10,000 of government largesse or pay received.
After all the tax forms ask if you want to be on the voters registry.
“are there any Scottish conservatives left?”
Posted by: Stephen at May 11, 2010 7:00 PM
Yup. But they’re all in rural Canada, Australia and the Ozarks.
Next move will be a groundswell for proportional representation. That will be the ultimate downfall of the entire democratic process ~ atric at 5:57 PM
If you’re being sarcastic, the comment is humourous; if you’re not, well it’s still funny.
A married couple I know, cheesed off with Britain’s insanely lax immigration system, recently moved to Canada just to get out of the mess.
Hopefully mother Britain can be saved from total destruction.
http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/politics-and-government/don%27t-panic/
I can’t believe how many people voted Labour. Presumably, since the Tories will rightly axe many state jobs for those who are superfluously employed (and freeze salaries, like the Greeks), pretty much the entire public sector has probably voted Labour. The self-interest of those who do government paperwork for a living yet provide very little if anything that people actually need is one of the most destructive forces in the world today.
Goodbye Tony Blair’s Britain hello Tony Blair’s Britain.
Agreed.
Simon, I would add to your analysis the huge numbers of UK people on the dole, welfare and a myriad of subsidies that would have supported Labour. An average of 60% of economic activity is driven by government spending. I doubt Cameron has the courage or the political power to make the cuts to get the UK on a sound financial footing, that would take a Thatcher.
Not much consolation. Cameron is no conservative. Hope he comes around once in power.
All you have to do is listen to what Cameron says and you know he’s a weenie just like the rest of the decendants of the once-proud Brits.
But Labour isn’t giving up the fight just yet. They’re still trying to remain in power but with somebody as a coalition partner. We’ll see how that goes over.
Britain: what Canada wants to be when it grows up.
UK Tories can best be compared to Iffie’s libs … pro-AGW; pro-EU; pro-mass im-mo-gration; pro-nanny state; classic Euro-philes.
Cue the molesting of foxes. 🙂
Just delaying the inevitable . . . too many brits addicted to their entitlements.
Just like our Liberals & dippers. He won’t be able to turn off the spigots before the UK runs out of borrowing.
Come back to us Maggie Thatcher, Winston Churchill, William Gladstone, David Lloyd George. The West is truly in its sunset.
The UK is just Iceland without the curtain pulled back. I would have figured they went before Greece. We shall see.
A mustard thumb print on the pages of history.
On balance, this is probably the least worst option, so hurray, limeys rejoice!
Less than a year to the next election.
Briton has been sliding into the toilet ever since Margaret Thatcher left politics and from what I have seen and heard of the current politicians of all parties over there they have little hope of stopping the flow.
A few of Maggie’s famous Thatcherisms:
To cure the British disease with socialism was like trying to cure leukaemia with leeches.
Margaret Thatcher
If my critics saw me walking over the Thames they would say it was because I couldn’t swim.
Margaret Thatcher
To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects.
Margaret Thatcher
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
The parallels to Canada’s 2006 election are many. The narrow minority win, 13 years of entitled power, an opportunistic minor (NDP) party and similar seat percentages. One difference is that Paul Martin resigned immediately after losing, while Brown delayed and tried to hang on. Brown made a huge mistake here by his desperate attempt to clutch onto power. Martin did the right thing by resigning, but I think many Liberals had regrets. These regrets led the Liberals to attempt the “three stooges Coalition” in 2008. These parallels and regrets likely had a hand in Brown’s foolish move to hang on to power when he clearly lost.
Next move will be a groundswell for proportional representation. That will be the ultimate downfall of the entire democratic process.
If only Cameron had some role model he could follow? Perhaps some highly respected and capable Conservative Prime Minister leading a minority government in a Parliamentary Democracy while leading his country to to solid economic footing while fending off relentless and baseless attacks from every entitled socialist group and most of the press could show the way. Does anyone you know fit that description?
Me thinks PMSH is about to get get much attention from the British.
This is from a British tabloid I’m not familiar with at all – People – but anyway, it seems legit and it concerns Margaret Thatcher’s opinion of David Cameron.
(Apparently she doesn’t think that much of him.)
With the Tories in power the UK will undoubtedly continue its sad decline, albeit ever so slightly more slowly than under Labour. Not much to get excited about.
I don’t think they’ll have time to marvel at the PMSH balancing act. They don’t have provinces in the UK to run health care, education and highways. Their federal government is just about all the government they have, other than some regional authorities and the immensely powerful Scottish parliament which can rule on the strength of haggis and other matters.
In other words, this coalition between the Cons and the SDA will last about six months, go tits up, and then there will be another election where hopefully the people will eliminate the muddleman altogether.
It doesn’t matter who the titular head of government may be. Great (formerly great) Britain is f–cked. It is Greece writ large – a nation of paper-pushing bureaucrats, overbearing cops and multitudes of professional pogey gatherers who live high on the hog. Its justice system is the object of international mirth and seems to be run for (by?) the criminal element. It produces little of value, and the proceeds from anything that is produced are largely taxed away and tossed into the maw of the bureaucracy. So sad.
Tony Blair’s Britain
Draws to a conclusion.
A final one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ecXITshe8&feature=related
Did you watch his speech? Listen to what he said? No notes. He is impressive. King Obamses would have come across as a blathering idiot.
Doug,
British politicians always sound better…..a love of their own language is part of the education system and culture. That stopped being the way in the US and Canada many moons ago.
But as for the content…..if he backs the words up with proper action maybe there is hope. The focus on fixing things and the word responsibility (which he repeated many times) caught my attention.
But like many hear, he is no Thatcher, which is fine since Thatcher was no Churchill, but he seems to have bought himself a 4 year mandate…as long as “Cleggover” (a man with many paramours) doesnt pull out at first advantage. Given Clegg’s behaviour during negotiations I would always be concened about that.
Now the Tories made gains in wales, the question is are there any Scottish conservatives left? Or, like Quebec have the nationalists (which are urban left dominated) blinded their countrymen?
The major concern is Cameron’s decision to make Lib-Dem leader Nick Clegg his deputy, to lavish a grossly disproportionate number of cabinet and sub-cabinet positions on the relative handful of Lib-Dem MPs,take off the table from the outset a number of key policy initiatives, and promise a referendum on proportional representation.
Leaving Labour to cobble together an unholy coalition with Lib-Dems, Scottish Nationalists, Welsh Nationalists (and maybe even Sinn Fein) and the Green Lady from Brighton might have left them better able to fight an election that would come sooner than later.
Hmmm… distracted. Last sentence should read “might have left the Tories better able to fight an election …”
Given the many reports of voter fraud, which the constabulary is investigating, it is difficult to really guage the amount or lack of it that Cameron has.
Given that, so far, the fraud finger is pointed at labour—there could be some musical chairs play in the HOC yet.
It would take 10 years to undo what Blair and Co alone have done to Britain. When the current trio of neo-Liberals are through it will be even worse.
Stephen said “.. are there any Scottish conservatives left?”
There are lots of them left. Unfortunately for Britain they emigrated.
It’s times like these for which I reserve this exclamation: “Thank the f**k christ.”
Richard, you do have enough intelligence to know that is offensive to a great many people?
To be honest I don’t see the coalition lasting the distance. The liberals do not have the stomach for the pain that has to be inflicted. Sadly the British public and hundreds of thousands of bogus asylum seekers and illegal immigrants have become addicted to welfare and the Conservatives will struggle to push through any meaningful cuts.
I foresee another election, maybe as early as October. The liberals will be wiped out, but unless Cameron does more to appease the Euro skeptics he will not benefit. It is even possible the sewer party (Labour) under a new leader could regain office. Eventually they will have to get a real Conservative leader who will make the necessary savage cuts in welfare, because as it stands Britain is circling the toilet bowl.
UK politics has become a bit of a joke. I watched one of the debates, and all three men came across as total charlatans – complete fakes, men with smooth talk and fancy ties but nothing under the hood.
The Brits with brains and who can see the writing on the wall are leaving the UK. In Kelowna, British Columbia, hardly a day goes by when I don’t bump into another Brit family who has left the UK. Glad to have them here.
Rule Britannia no more – the country has lost its spine. Last one turn the lights out. The empire is well and truly done. The Muslims will fill the void that is left.
Warren Z is right in saying “Goodbye Tony Blair’s Britain hello Tony Blair’s Britain”.
About all the Brits managed to do is change Commissars.
A number of comments above about Britons coming to Canada.
One of the free papers in Toronto today reported that a majority of Britons considering emigration chose Canada as their number 1 destination.
Now, the question is are these people fleeing non-working socialism, or are they coming here because they think we’ve got working socialism?
It’s Australia as the number one destination for Brits emigrating.
Why not disallow government workers from voting and also people on welfare. Or how about 1 vote per $20,000 of income with one vote removed for every $10,000 of government largesse or pay received.
After all the tax forms ask if you want to be on the voters registry.
“are there any Scottish conservatives left?”
Posted by: Stephen at May 11, 2010 7:00 PM
Yup. But they’re all in rural Canada, Australia and the Ozarks.
Next move will be a groundswell for proportional representation. That will be the ultimate downfall of the entire democratic process ~ atric at 5:57 PM
If you’re being sarcastic, the comment is humourous; if you’re not, well it’s still funny.
A married couple I know, cheesed off with Britain’s insanely lax immigration system, recently moved to Canada just to get out of the mess.