Largely unnoticed during end of civilization as we know it.
Secondary finding: Americans still take George W. Bush’s word over that of Al Gore’s.
h/t Ed S.
54 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: The End Of Civilization As We Know It”
John Cross, science in its original meaning meant ‘observation’. What do I observe. I observe Global Cooling at the moment as confirmed by the head of the IPCC. I observe the people who are pushing AGW constructing graphs that are unsupportable from the statistics they purport to as base material. I observe the most ardent of the warmists making up data to support their cause. I observe the use of computer modeling in place of evidence gathering. When I look back at history I observe that there has been constant fluctuations in global mean temperature. From that same history I observe that the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere has also fluctuated with no direct correlation between the two.
You on the other hand seem be be hung up on the workings of a CO2 Laser. Now really who is being the scientist and who is being rhetorician?
Joe: you said that the constructed graphs are unsupportable from a statistics point of view. Great an actual statement that can be tested scientifically!!! Now, please show me why the statistics on the temperature graph I linked to is unsupportable.
Regards,
John
I was referring to the Mann hockey stick graph and the manufactured data re. Antarctica.
However the biggest objection I have to AGW is because it fits the all too common syndrome of
“Dissociative Reality” in which mankind thinks himself too important based on the artificial environment which he has constructed for himself.
Into this category I also slot ‘gay marriage’, ‘femminization of boys and men and untold disaster scenarios in which the world. When humanity removes itself from the imperative to reproduce (artificial environment) things like the gay agenda and feminism become important. When humanity removes itself from the necessity of feeding, clothing and sheltering itself it creates all kinds of ‘end of the world’ scenarios with which it scares itself. One such ‘scare’ is AGW. Not enough evidence? No problem we’ll just create some. Too much history no problem we will just pretend it doesn’t exist. While we are at it we will invent the math and science to scare the educated. Its times like these that I wish we still revered the aged. Young punks keep coming up with scams that the aged recognize because they have seen it all before. AGW? No thank you seen it before and it didn’t happen then either. Now if you want to keep your little pet in a box and bring it out to scare yourself and your grandkids then you go right ahead. I’ve known people who lived through the turn of the centuries 1800s – 2000s and listened to their tales of warming and cooling and funnily enough there is nothing that could not be described as normal.
Joe: I am having a hard time assessing your argument. Appearing unable to actually discuss the science you have now taken a tangent into “gay marriage” and the “femminization of boys”!!
If you wish to continue to discuss the science then I am interested, but politics does not interest me as much.
regards,
John
John Cross, science in its original meaning meant ‘observation’. What do I observe. I observe Global Cooling at the moment as confirmed by the head of the IPCC. I observe the people who are pushing AGW constructing graphs that are unsupportable from the statistics they purport to as base material. I observe the most ardent of the warmists making up data to support their cause. I observe the use of computer modeling in place of evidence gathering. When I look back at history I observe that there has been constant fluctuations in global mean temperature. From that same history I observe that the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere has also fluctuated with no direct correlation between the two.
You on the other hand seem be be hung up on the workings of a CO2 Laser. Now really who is being the scientist and who is being rhetorician?
Joe: you said that the constructed graphs are unsupportable from a statistics point of view. Great an actual statement that can be tested scientifically!!! Now, please show me why the statistics on the temperature graph I linked to is unsupportable.
Regards,
John
I was referring to the Mann hockey stick graph and the manufactured data re. Antarctica.
However the biggest objection I have to AGW is because it fits the all too common syndrome of
“Dissociative Reality” in which mankind thinks himself too important based on the artificial environment which he has constructed for himself.
Into this category I also slot ‘gay marriage’, ‘femminization of boys and men and untold disaster scenarios in which the world. When humanity removes itself from the imperative to reproduce (artificial environment) things like the gay agenda and feminism become important. When humanity removes itself from the necessity of feeding, clothing and sheltering itself it creates all kinds of ‘end of the world’ scenarios with which it scares itself. One such ‘scare’ is AGW. Not enough evidence? No problem we’ll just create some. Too much history no problem we will just pretend it doesn’t exist. While we are at it we will invent the math and science to scare the educated. Its times like these that I wish we still revered the aged. Young punks keep coming up with scams that the aged recognize because they have seen it all before. AGW? No thank you seen it before and it didn’t happen then either. Now if you want to keep your little pet in a box and bring it out to scare yourself and your grandkids then you go right ahead. I’ve known people who lived through the turn of the centuries 1800s – 2000s and listened to their tales of warming and cooling and funnily enough there is nothing that could not be described as normal.
Joe: I am having a hard time assessing your argument. Appearing unable to actually discuss the science you have now taken a tangent into “gay marriage” and the “femminization of boys”!!
If you wish to continue to discuss the science then I am interested, but politics does not interest me as much.
regards,
John