Open for comments.
Also, some links sent along, for your enjoyment;
The Larry, Curly and Moe Accord: see the “No Surprises” clause on page 2. The “within the limits of common sense” passage seems especially ironic.
More on that “A permanent consultation mechanism.” they offered the BQ.
Historical Summary of Canadian Elections
Drop others in the comments if you so wish.
Update – This is a good one.
Much fun in the LIberal.ca forums (h/t Shaken)
I have one simple thing to say about the Harper’s and the Alliance’s negotiations with the Bloc:
I may flirt with a pretty girl but I’ve never cheated on my wife.
That’s gotta hurt!
Keep your promise Stephen, keep your promise and lock mr nasty away.
Now is the time for the argument, this is how Westminster works…..
Yessssssssssssssssssss!
Check!
Well, let the exodus of the “loyal” Liberals begin.
Dion’s “goose” is done like dinner.
Well, considering the circumstances, this was likely the best outcome.
But isn’t this a misuse of the prorouging option? Shouldn’t there be an emergency? What are the laws/rules, if any, around prorouging?
The mature solution would have been for this coalition never to have seen the light. Instead, if the gov falls (e.g. via the budget) then there should be an election. Simple and clear.
The best possible outcome, at this point.
Recall Ralph Goodale
What were you thinking Ralph?
And done without meeting with the Coalition Trio?
That has to be a stinger.
Now, the CPC had better get this done with a better approach.
Cause for sure, the media will want to keep spinning.
Good. This is the only way acceptable to Canadians, IMO.
In January, if the opposition parties wish to defeat the Conservatives when the budget is presented, so be it. At that point in time the Coalition of Three Asses can send the voters back to the polls and face the repercussions of same.
You think we Conservative supporters were angry last time? Just wait for that election in March ’09 (?) when our ranks will be added to with angry Libs. Dion, you fool, if you are still the leader in March, (can’t see Iggy wanting to take the blame for this one) you’ll be the leader of a party with even less seats than today. What an utter fool. You’ve been suckered Stephanie. Harper has taken a bad situation and turned it into something he can smile about.
kate.
I sent a copy of the signed accord to your email in europe.
The whining has already begun!
We’re having prorogies while we wait!
Johan i Kanada:
In this case, proroguing gives the CPC the chance to create an actual budget — y’know, a real reason to vote “non-confidence” — which the other parties can then vote down.
An election, while not certain, is the most likely outcome of such a vote. And we deserve it: I don’t remember being offered the option of a coalition party in the last election, and I would’ve appreciated the extra information.
Garth
Has Robert Fife been body-snatched?
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So, we have an economic hurricane coming with its rain and floodwaters to drown us, and…
– rather than work with the opposition to help Canadians and build barricades and window covers, Harper ignores the economic crisis and lights the house on fire…
– rather than put the fire out and settle with just showing Harper as the petty arsonist he is, Dion and the opposition leaders try to put the fire out with gasoline and turn an ignored economic crisis into a political crisis…
– rather than say ‘whoa, we’ve now got a bigger more immediate problem here, let’s get this out-of-control fire out’, Harper throws a handgrenade into the fire, tries to pit Canadians against Quebec/Central Canada, and turns an ignored economic crisis and a political crisis into a unity crisis…
– rather than step back and let the “Prime Minister” take the shrapnel from his own grenade, Dion and the opposition leaders try to prevent the explosing by jumping into the middle of the fire and covering the grenade with their own bodies, turning the ignored economic crisis, political crisis, unity crisis into a leaderless farce…
… and we’re the ones who get burned.
… and soon we’ll be drowned.
Can’t it be the other way? Flood all of these guys (notice how few women are speaking out on either side?) out of Ottawa.
Although it benefits Harper and his lying propaganda machine and his cowardly evasion of Parliamentary democracy, the GG did right to prorogue Parliament.
In an ideal world, The Queen would fly across the ocean, dismiss Harper, dismiss Dion (and send him to Ryerson U. for videography training), force the CBC to hire Layton for a bit part in This Hour Has 22 Minutes and force Duceppe to spend a couple of months working out in Fort McMurray.
I’m guessing she won’t.
But one can hope. We’ve seen stranger behaviour already this week from a PM and opposition who clearly don’t care too much about Parliament or Canadians.
Bawaaaaaaa.
Aw thats to bad
What about the three stooges?
Are they mad?
Bawaaa
So, we have an economic hurricane coming with its rain and floodwaters to drown us, and…
– rather than work with the opposition to help Canadians and build barricades and window covers, Harper ignores the economic crisis and lights the house on fire…
– rather than put the fire out and settle with just showing Harper as the petty arsonist he is, Dion and the opposition leaders try to put the fire out with gasoline and turn an ignored economic crisis into a political crisis…
– rather than say ‘whoa, we’ve now got a bigger more immediate problem here, let’s get this out-of-control fire out’, Harper throws a handgrenade into the fire, tries to pit Canadians against Quebec/Central Canada, and turns an ignored economic crisis and a political crisis into a unity crisis…
– rather than step back and let the “Prime Minister” take the shrapnel from his own grenade, Dion and the opposition leaders try to prevent the explosing by jumping into the middle of the fire and covering the grenade with their own bodies, turning the ignored economic crisis, political crisis, unity crisis into a leaderless farce…
… and we’re the ones who get burned.
… and soon we’ll be drowned.
Can’t it be the other way? Flood all of these guys (notice how few women are speaking out on either side?) out of Ottawa.
Although it benefits Harper and his lying propaganda machine and his cowardly evasion of Parliamentary democracy, the GG did right to prorogue Parliament.
In an ideal world, The Queen would fly across the ocean, dismiss Harper, dismiss Dion (and send him to Ryerson U. for videography training), force the CBC to hire Layton for a bit part in This Hour Has 22 Minutes and force Duceppe to spend a couple of months working out in Fort McMurray.
I’m guessing she won’t.
But one can hope. We’ve seen stranger behaviour already this week from a PM and opposition who clearly don’t care too much about Parliament or Canadians.
Ha ha!
Bawaaaaaaa.
Aw thats too bad
What about the three stooges?
Are they mad?
Bawaaa
Bawaaaaaaa.
Aw thats too bad
What about the three stooges?
Are they mad?
Bawaaa
I’d love to see that “accord”. How can the Libs and Dippers say the Bloq is not part of the coalition? I say their fearless leader sign the accord. We all saw it.
So, we have an economic hurricane coming with its rain and floodwaters to drown us, and…
– rather than work with the opposition to help Canadians and build barricades and window covers, Harper ignores the economic crisis and lights the house on fire…
– rather than put the fire out and settle with just showing Harper as the petty arsonist he is, Dion and the opposition leaders try to put the fire out with gasoline and turn an ignored economic crisis into a political crisis…
– rather than say ‘whoa, we’ve now got a bigger more immediate problem here, let’s get this out-of-control fire out’, Harper throws a handgrenade into the fire, tries to pit Canadians against Quebec/Central Canada, and turns an ignored economic crisis and a political crisis into a unity crisis…
– rather than step back and let the “Prime Minister” take the shrapnel from his own grenade, Dion and the opposition leaders try to prevent the explosing by jumping into the middle of the fire and covering the grenade with their own bodies, turning the ignored economic crisis, political crisis, unity crisis into a leaderless farce…
… and we’re the ones who get burned.
… and soon we’ll be drowned.
Can’t it be the other way? Flood all of these guys (notice how few women are speaking out on either side?) out of Ottawa.
Although it benefits Harper and his lying propaganda machine and his cowardly evasion of Parliamentary democracy, the GG did right to prorogue Parliament.
In an ideal world, The Queen would fly across the ocean, dismiss Harper, dismiss Dion (and send him to Ryerson U. for videography training), force the CBC to hire Layton for a bit part in This Hour Has 22 Minutes and force Duceppe to spend a couple of months working out in Fort McMurray.
I’m guessing she won’t.
But one can hope. We’ve seen stranger behaviour already this week from a PM and opposition who clearly don’t care too much about Parliament or Canadians.
It will be interesting to hear what the Separatist Coalition spin-meisters have to say about this. Given that the G-G didn’t even bother to call them in (at least, publically) they really look like they eaten s**t.
Tough!
You should read the comments on the cbc.ca site! Not a happy little group of idiot socialists.
I agree that we need another election and the cost is irrelevant.
At some point someone has to realize that this move by the Prime Minister was because he somehow found out about the coalition conspiracy and knew that he had to shuffle the deck early.
If you assume that the government gets past the economic update and the coalition defeats the budget then the coalition would have definitely formed the government. A coalition government would (will) result in a strong western Canadian separatist movement and a strengthened Quebec separatist movement. To eliminate this and keep a stable situation the coalition had to be exposed early and PM Harper did this by poking the opposition on funding.
This is much more plausible than this being an error or mistake by the Prime Minister.
Well, since Harper has yet to speak, the burning question on MY disgusting mind is:
Who is that Valkyrie body guard of Harper’s? She looks like she could bench press a Buick! That girl is HAWT!
Yikes. Sorry about the multi-post. Sincere apologies.
Robert Fife: “…this might help make the coalition crumble”.
Wow.
duceppe didnt sign it , what it says is establish a PERMANANT consultation with the bloc.
but he is certainly in the photo ops with borat dion and taliban jack.
“this will mek western pipples ‘ead explode with grin house guesses” Borat Dion
Hey Ted, having a little multiple personality crisis this morning?
Yeah! Christmas is still on although we’ll now have to look further than the nightly news for a good laugh.
Haha, listening to Layton now — what a whiner!!!!
This is great news — now a real budget can be presented and the coalition can burn.
Now there is precedent for any future government wishing to avoid a non-confidence vote – they can simply ask for prorogation. And when you say – hey, this is unique circumstance’ – recall that all non-confidence votes are unique.
Remember this when your political partisans get it done to them.
It is so Canadian to look for the correct time in a big pile of $hit, rather than looking at the clock on the wall.
Hello thar ‘tinpot teddy’ or ‘puking history’, were you not happy about this. In Right Hornable PMSH in his speech stated that they have already table 12 items that would help the economy. Watch clip again, I am sure if you get in line and make the clawing motion of ‘that pathetic loser Dion’ you can still receive the government welfare. It’s just going to take time ‘grasshopper’.
Yeah, for the GG!
Now I can really look forward to the rally at Olympic Plaza at 11:00 AM this Saturday to support PMSH.
“Yikes. Sorry about the multi-post. Sincere apologies.”
~Ted
Interesting that the first one is Posted by: History at December 4, 2008 11:50 AM
Canada will now have a sensible budget.
Canadians voted for a steady hand in a turbulent economic time.
Harper himself pointed out that the Coalition of Losers have made the economy the issue, not the party funding.
The only possible course of action is to let the party who can deliver a budget, deliver a budget.
The Coalition would have to go through the same pre-budget process and would be unable to deliver a budget until at least April. At least the power-hungry egomaniac Layton should have the decency to wait to the duly-elected government of Canada to deliver a budget.
Harper appealed directly to the national parties brilliantly: “My Canada includes Quebec, but the Bloc’s Quebec does not include Canada.”
Just a matter of time before the coalition unravels.
BRAVO ZULU, PMSH
Jack Layton essentially just said that he doesn’t care about hearing the Conservatives next budget proposal, he’ll be pushing for non-confidence regardless.
I believe that’s what PMSH wants to hear.
Ignatieff got to the GG. Soon the editorialists will be proclaiming him to be Canada’s savior. This is all about enhancing his stature in the eyes of the public.
Sorry if this ends up being a double post:
Dear History/Ted: Your summary actually isn’t too bad, in my opinion, with the exception of one perspective on your analogy:
– Yes, I think that Harper lit the match…but it was the Grits/Dippers/Blocheads that took the lit match and set the house on fire. Plus, the house was clearly going to be set on fire ANYWAY by the Grits/Dippers/Blocheads soon enough, so all Harper did was influence them to do it sooner rather than later.
Apart from that, I can “buy” your analogy. It’s not the way I would have put it, but close enough.
PS: Was your sockpuppet name chosen to reflect what your precious Liberal party will become? How appropriate…they’re soon going to be history!
I don’t remember being offered the option of a coalition party in the last election, and I would’ve appreciated the extra information.
Hidden agenda!!!!!!
Best guess on when Stephane returns from a cold winter walk.
How come when you google cpc to get some news, the Canadian Pallet Council ranks higher than the Conservative Party?
Cerberus just got a time out. Next step is to euthanize this dog.
My guess is that the hand full of sane voices in the lib party will kill this three-headed monster and send Dion to his deserved obscurity in retirement.
I was going to comment on it earlier, but the GG has been known to be friendly with Harper and their kids play together. I think we “misunderestimated” her integrity. I think the libs kid themselves if they think that Jean wants to be judged by history as the GG who wrecked the country.
Dion a goose whose been cooked. Harper’s hanging by his feet in the kitchen, ready to be axed next. He damn well better have something up his sleeve to avoid being the new year’s duck.
Most people won’t like what I’m gonna say. I think Dion is not a bad guy, but he should never have been elected leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. I’m sure he entered the race as a kingmaker, or envisioned that his running would ensure a good cabinet position down the road. Harper is not a bad guy either, but he should have done everything to sustain a weak Liberal leader, rather than publicly slap him around. Whereever we are right now, this is not “good” for Canada. Rifts that were papered over (or bandaid-ed) have been ripped open – sometimes that’s a good thing, but not now.
Journalists criticize the lack of a stimulus package – huh? Who gets the money? Why?
So, we’re going down a river in a raft without paddles. Doubt there’s a waterfall downstream – we are less an indebted nation than the US that has more to worry about – but if the wrong people get charge of the raft – it will be disastrous.
Thank you Ted.
Fife reported earlier that NDP and Liberal MPs who were in a bar last night (perhaps drowning their sorrows?) nearly came to blows over the embarrassment of Stephie’s Al-Quaeda-directed video. Details I would love to hear. Cell-phone video of that would be worth millions. (And be of better quality than Dion’s video)
All I know is at the end of the day,Mr.Harper is still at the helm,the rest is Ted…oops,I mean history.