SDA Gets Results!

The Libranos 214 Comments


UPDATE!! According to John Baird (on Charles Adler) Gilles Duceppe will have veto power over every single bill put forward by the coaltion.
Oh man, I do think I see the twinkling of the asteroid about to extinguish the Liberal Party as we now know it.
If it doesn’t take out Confederation first.
Related thoughts from Kelly McParland.

214 Replies to “SDA Gets Results!”

  2. I’m not sure if this is good news or bad news. I don’t know how much more crashing our stock market can take.

  3. Now, a domineering Prime Minister known for running a minority like he has won a landslide is on bended knee, petitioning for survival. In a matter of days Mr. Harper has recanted on his plan to withdraw public funding for political parties, has disavowed his intent to eliminate the right of public servants to strike, has moved up the timing of his budget and moved back the timing of a confidence vote.
    The sight of him semi-prostrate before the likes of Stéphane Dion and Jack Layton is not something many would have believed. He hasn’t done the full revocation yet. He hasn’t come forward with a plan for major stimulus in the budget, as opposition parties demand. That could come later this week. But whatever the outcome of the current crisis, one thing is clear: This is a Prime Minister who is getting his comeuppance. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. He isn’t dead, but he is mightily humbled. History won’t forget these days.

  5. Yeah Slevine. History will remember … that the Libs and NDP used to be parties in Canada, until they tried to over run the will of the people and were wiped out ala Mulroney 15 years ago.

  6. If PMSH gets an election forced?
    He’ll suffer for it.
    But, on the bright side? We’ll have Dion for another “re-start”. 😀

  7. I can’t see the Liberals ever recovering from this. I mean siding with the separatists. Really! If the coalition collapses and Dion leads them into another GE, on paper it should be a slaughter. But of course they have Montreal and the Toronto core…
    Then again, Iggy, of the ‘poison chalice’ concept, may ask 9 colleagues to find other places to be on Monday. He may even let PMSH know of his colleagues’ intentions so as to preclude proroguement (sp?) procedures. I think even Iggy knows that an active Parliament is better than one on sabatical. In which case all of this nonsense is mere hype to make the Conservatives sweat bullets for a week.

  8. “Mr. Harper has recanted on his plan to withdraw public funding for political parties,”
    Yahoo the NDP and liberals get to steal more of my money because their supporters don’t believe in them enough to give them theirs.
    Is this a great country or what? Heres hoping history doesn’t forget them tying in with Quebec separatists.
    I like how they claim they want a stimulus but don’t use the money liberal sup[porters are too selfish to give to their party for it.
    Let them implode in on themselves MR Harper. If the west gets out it’s not your fault.

  10. It is all coming down to a decision by the GG.
    No election, a governing coalition – Canada unravels.
    Election, PMSH solid majority – Canada, the country, can work.
    Michaëlle Jean, social activist, journalist, documentary filmmaker.
    Husband, Jean-Daniel Lafond: In it, he says: “I applaud with both hands” Quebec independence and promises to be at “all St. Jean (Baptiste) parades.” CTV
    We are seeing history here.

  11. If this Alliance comes together Which is looking more & more like it will. Dalton, Danny & others will be crying Bloody Blue Murder!
    Why?
    Because the NDP/Liberal will bend over backwards to give Quebec anything & everything that the Bloc asks for.
    The Premiers who dont normaly weigh in on federal takeovers Better get their act’s together & renounce this unholy alliance.
    The premiers were against the carbon tax saying what it would do to their economies & Now they will have Dions Tax soon in place & they wont have a chance in Hell of doing anything about it.

  12. If you read into history, you’ll find that every civil war, every revolution, and every great nation was destroyed by unstable leadership. Tis only a matter of time.

  13. Whodda thunk it just a week ago?
    – Harper “pulls a Paul Martin”, ignores his “first obligation” as minority government to consult with the opposition and get their confidence before taking actions, acts likes he’s entitled to do whatever the hell he wants because well he’s Stephen Harper, including ignoring Parliament, and pulling moves Harper called anti-democratic just a few years ago (eg. cancelling or postponing opposition days).
    – the Liberals meanwhile “pull a Harper” and work with the NDP and the Bloc, just like Harper did in 2004-2006, and, just like Harper did, ask the Governor General to respect her constitutional obligation to ask the Leader of the Opposition if it can form a government with the confidence of the House (which, unlike Harper now, it can).
    – the NDP and the Bloc, meanwhile, pull “an NDP” and “a Bloc”, respectively, and work with the opposition (then the Conservatives, now the Liberals) since they know they can never get any real power without doing so. Oh, and in the case of the NDP, consulting their lawyers about criminal actions against a law breaking, lying Conservative Party.
    Does Harper stand for any principle any more or is everything that made the man optional when it comes to clinging to power?

  14. I wish I could tell those rabid jackals over at the CBC what STUPID F***ING IDIOTS they are, but any comment even remotely close to that truth gets blocked!

  15. Public Service Unions are coming out in favor of this Coalition NNW, 76% Quebecers in favor NNW.

  16. So the NDP jumped into bed with Liberals & spread ’em. Then the Lib-Dip Lovers jumped into another bed for a threesome with the Bloc.
    So question #1:
    How much did the Liberals pay to service the NDP’s political libido ?
    And Question #2:
    How much did the Lib-Dip lover’s squeeze have to pay the Bloc to get a few hand jobs during votes to allow them to run the country ?
    How many $billions in secret deals has been made that we don’t know about

  17. slevine
    Thanks for the plagiarism of Lawrence Martin’s Globe and Mail article, but we can read for ourselves.

  18. ROTFLMAO
    Can one imagine Steffie now as he proudly walks around with his little weenie stuck out like a three year old toddler with a pee hard on!

  19. Mr Teach, sir, or may just call you ‘Blackbeard’?
    I have now reached the point at which I no longer rise to the baited provocations of Liberal Party mouthpieces like the CBC. It is far more productive and satisfying to simply write them off (like slevine and all of is/her ilk) and refuse to engage with them at all. The time to get busy has come. There is nothing to be gained in attempting to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
    The right way forward is for all of us to begin the gritty work of persuading like-minded Westerners to entertain serious thoughts of self-determination. There is no future in any dialogue with Globe and Mail fans, believe me!
    The best reply to the CBC-Globe&Mail types is a Western Self-Determination outfit.

  20. I see the stock market is all in favour of Canada’s new separatist government, down 700 points with a couple of hours to go. Thanks Jack.

  21. Whatever you may think, never underestimate the abilities of Stephen Harper. I am quite certain he fully anticipated this move by the Professional Socialist Teat Suckers Union. One result that I anticipate is massive voter revolt ending in a conservative super majority at the next election.

  22. BCF, looks like we have Stelmach on our side. His news announcement today about creating a financial hub in Calgary was no mistake. Don’t forget that Tom Olson is his communications director, who used to work for the Herald. He is well placed to make sure things can get headlines when necessary.
    I for one look forward to hearing further on this issue, and what Albertan’s can do to protect themselves further from eastern intrusions that serve no purpose for us and, in fact, hurt us.

  23. Actually, Harper is merely being concilliatory with the opposition, and showing his ability to compromise in order to keep Canada running smoothly.
    Geez, make up your mind lefties. When he leads, you call him a dictator and want him to compromise. When he compromises and tries to incorporate the opposition’s demands, you sh!t all over him for that, too.
    The opposition is either insane, childish, or simply mad for power. Which is it?

  24. Let me get this straight. The Liberals and the NDP are about to manufacture a situation whereby the party that exists for the sole purpose of ripping Canada apart will have more power in the Parliament of Canada than the province that has for the past couple of three decades paid the most into equalization? And this while all about us the markets crumble. Not even the most severely brainwashed leftards can look you in the eye and tell you that the Liberals and NDP are putting Canada first. Hopefully the swing voters will punish this treasonous behavior at the next election assuming the new coalition allows elections.

  27. Canadians will be asking themselves Why should I vote When you have such deals being made Hours After the Election.
    Fred: With all the Backroom BS going on For all we know the NDP has agreed to Share with the Liberals their monies they Receive from the Taxpayer Political Party Welfare Cheque.
    This may be part of the Deal as We Will Never Know the Truth from this pack of Liars.
    This Money of course would most likely pay off most of their Debt.
    And speaking of Money Jack have you asked the Liberals to Pay Back to Canadians the Money they Laundered?
    Because this is also what Canadians want.

  28. So the lieberals looked at the poo sandwich they constructed over the weekend and thought “Holy cow our leadership contenders are a pretty poor shower, a dipper, a Canadian who only lived here as a young man, and a nepotism candidate. Who is naive enough to lead this thing”. Errr…. Stefan yeah we need the Blocs support so Stefan should be good, no problems there and his comments about the NDP finance program weren’t really that bad. I’m sure we can patch things up, and it was just bad luck he could not explain our platform last time around I’m sure his English has improved a lot in ten weeks. Stefan can convince the Governor General that her sworn oath to uphold the crown in Canada will be enhanced by needing the Blocs support for the coalition survival.
    And while we are discussing getting ourselves considered for government lets put in a few unelected people in the Finance portfolio, they need their pensions topped up. That should not irritate the electorate too much.
    Announce corporate tax cuts and a $30,000,000,000 increase in spending (on what?).
    Thats a pretty good weekends work.
    Coalition of the swilling indeed, or maybe the franco-phonies.
    Free the West.

  32. Think about it.
    Would the Liberals take down the government and chance an election ? – if the GG had not already assured Dion that he would be appointed PM of all the land ?

  35. Dion is Gilles’ b****. We know who’ll be wearing the pants in that family, and it ain’t Stephane.

  36. Quick question: If the coalition does go through erasing my democratic rights as a Canadian, do I still have to pay my taxes??

  37. Bob Rae, speaking LIVE on CBC Newsworld stated that, in fact, Harper doesn’t have the moral authority to govern because, as Rae put it, “65% of Canadains did not vote for Mr. Harper.” Does this mean that Bob Rae is saying that he himself was an illigitimate premier in his day since 65% of Ontarians voted against his New Democratic Party in 1990? Just curious, Bob.

  38. If this coalition gets in,how long will it take Dion to load the senate even further to the left??

  39. People seem to forget that under our system, during an election we don’t vote for a government. We elect a member to Parliament. It is up to the House of Commons to select a government within itself as they see fit. It does not have to be the party with the most votes if 50% of the House does not support that party. A coalition is therefore constitutional under our system.
    How, exactly, is it undemocratic for a group comprising 52% of the seats and 54% of the votes to depose a group comprising 47% of the seats and 37% of the vote? Isn’t democracy rule by the majority?

  41. The Conservatives will have some wonderful film to use for their adverts for the next election.
    I think this is going to really hurt the Libs big time. Just can’t see Iggy going along with this, his own career will be on the line.

  42. It’s undemocratic because we did not vote for a coalition, fool. Did they campaign as a coalition? In fact, we increased Harper’s minority. That should tell you something.
    Let them try that during an election and see what happens.

  43. We elect a member to Parliament. It is up to the House of Commons to select a government within itself as they see fit.
    Bullshit. That argument would be valid ONLY if members were allowed to vote freely based on the will of their constituents. I would then be able to call up Ujal Dosanjh and tell him to vote against this fiasco and if enough of the other constituents did the same, he’d have to comply. What do you think the chances of that happening are?

  44. “Bob Rae, speaking LIVE on CBC Newsworld stated that, in fact, Harper doesn’t have the moral authority to govern because, as Rae put it, “65% of Canadians did not vote for Mr. Harper.””
    There are 92 Federal ridings in Western Canada (Manitoba – BC).
    21 ridings are help by either Libs of Dippers -that is 23%. 23% Support
    so by Boob Rae’s logic 77% of Western Canadian ridings will not be represented by The Coalition of the Swilling

  47. Trudeau – Quebec
    Trudeau – Quebec
    Trudeau – Quebec
    Trudeau – Quebec
    Clarke – Alberta
    Trudeau – Quebec
    Turner – Ontario
    Mulroney – Quebec
    Mulroney – Quebec
    Chretien – Quebec
    Chretien – Quebec
    Chretien – Quebec
    Martin – Quebec
    Martin – Quebec
    Harper – Alberta
    (?) Dion Duceppe – Quebec Quebec

  48. Herb – Let me explain this to you like you’re four years old. There’s a difference between what you can go and what you should do. If you don’t know the difference, you’ll fit right in with our new “government”.

  49. Some pundits are saying that this coalition will be such a disaster that it will deliver Harper a majority.
    One problem with that scenario. This coalition of the seccessionists and seditionists has awarded itself a 2.5 year mandate. Once that is finished they will award themselves another
    There will be no election and there is no mechanism available to remove them.

  50. a copy and paste for everyone
    Subject: Column by Chuck Strahl MP
    A Political Crisis?
    By Chuck Strahl MP
    November 29, 2008
    Last week I sent around an update on Canada’s economic situation, with the observation that it wasn’t a very enjoyable subject to write about. Unfortunately, this week it appears that our economic woes are morphing into a political crisis of sorts, at a time when we can least afford it. What’s happening in Ottawa is bordering on the absurd, but its impact would be felt most harshly by Canadians, not political parties. It is potentially a shame of historic proportions.
    The Throne Speech I wrote about last week has now been passed. The Opposition Parties apparently had no trouble supporting the direction of the Conservative government, and in fact, they let it pass “on division”, which means they didn’t even want a stand up vote! When the Finance Minister tabled his economic update, though, things got ugly, mostly because the speech made reference to politicians and political parties receiving less from the government coffers. Suddenly, the Liberals and NDP want to form an alternative government, apparently by joining forces in a coalition, and supported by the separatist Bloc Quebecois.
    This unholy alliance is trying to paint a different picture, of course. They say they simply want to spend more money to stimulate the economy, but when asked for details, it’s pretty thin gruel. Apparently they’re prepared to take the ‘ready, shoot, aim” approach to spending, and agree to some blank cheques without even knowing what will actually help specific industries, without knowing what Barak Obama has planned, and without working in concert with the other G-20 countries. It is a recipe for a fiscal disaster.
    More importantly, it is a democratic disaster. During the campaign, Liberal leader Stephane Dion said he would not and could not have a coalition with the NDP, because their policies would destroy the economy. Apparently that principled position has now gone out the window. Now we have the prospect of the Liberals (with 77 seats) joining with the NDP (with 37 seats) to unseat the democratically elected Conservatives (with 143 seats) . Of course, the only way to do that would be with the support of the separatist Bloc Quebecois, who bring their votes to the table in exchange for their separatist agenda. It is almost beyond belief, but apparently the back room discussions amongst these parties are happening as I write this note.
    As I said last week, our Conservative government has been preparing our economy for over a year to weather this world-wide economic storm as best we can. We have brought in almost $200 billion dollars in economic stimulus over a 5 year period, by lowering taxes across the board and in every category. We have freed up billions more by adopting Bank of Canada policies and mortgage protection that have increased the availability of credit and addressed liquidity issues, without costing the taxpayer too much and without risking our country’s core stability. The IMF, the World Economic Forum, the OECD and other international organizations are united in their opinions that Canada is in the best shape of any industrialized nation in the world. Now the left-leaning parties in Parliament are willing to risk it all in order to gain power through the back door, power that was denied to them in a general election.
    In order to diffuse this crisis, our government has agreed to separate the political party financing issue from the confidence vote, and we’ll be bringing it back to Parliament in a stand-alone Bill for a vote next year. Whether a person believes the taxpayer should be forced to pay for political party finances will be debated and decided at another time. I’ll be supporting the Bill when it comes to a vote, and we’ll see what happens. For now, Canadians should be appalled that we could be thrown into a democratic and constitutional crisis by an attempt to gain power at any cost, to overthrow the democratically expressed will of the Canadian people, all at a critically important economic time for us all.
    I’m uncertain where all of this is going, but it is entirely possible that the Conservatives could lose the confidence of Parliament and be forced into an election within days. You can’t run the government without revenue, and we simply must have the authority to pay the bills and stick to the agenda already approved in the Throne Speech. But it is also entirely possible that the Conservatives could be forced from government by the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition, if the Governor General agrees. Canada deserves better than either of these options, and we’ll be working hard to keep everyone focused on the economy, jobs, and a sound budgetary plan. We believe Canadians want us to get on with governing. But I just don’t know what will happen, and I share Canadian’s shock and anger that we’re teetering on this abyss at this critical time.
    The vote to bring down the government will now take place on December 8th, so Canadians have a week or so to express themselves before that critical moment. I urge everyone to write a letter-to-the editor, call a radio talk show, circulate this article (or others) through their own email list, and contact political parties with their opinion. A strong grassroots reaction may be the only thing that stands between us and a Prime Minister Stephane Dion and Finance Minister Jack Layton.

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