An SDA regular was looking to buy some beer in Ontario. His search revealed something very interesting. Note the small print on blue background at the top. How come the beer brewed in Canada is so much more expensive than that made in and shipped from America?
Blame your government. Excise taxes, SIN taxes…which are MUCH higher than those in the US. Additionally, your provinces want a “taste” of the action so they set up monopolistic government agencies that set the minimum price amounts on Canadian brewed beers (all beers, not just those with an American brand name). Then there are the containers (which are higher due to tariffs on raw materials)….but don’t forget the “Green policies” that make use of these raw materials even more expensive.
As it is … the sin taxes and bottle return tax have put me off beer entirely here in CA … which is really quite like Canada. No, I’m not paying $15.00 for a six pack
PS … it’s Kirin when you’re beerin… GO ichiban Japan! Leading Brazil 1-0 at the half
That was a joke of a sales pitch my friend – the advertising copyrighter – used to quote when we were drinking beers.
https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/Kirin-Ichiban-Premium-Beer-6-Pack-12-fl-oz-Bottles-5-ABV_f57a1416-3c19-42e0-b8eb-95bd6b5b5b32.9e980f22216ec58ffef99cab17965683.jpeg
Way back a “new” brew called Mountain Crest appeared in W Canada. It was brewed and bottled in Wisconsin and sold here, undercutting Canadian and even mimicing the Molson packaging.
Bros-Sis immigrant entrepreneurs.
All booze up!
The “elbows up” campaign was unnecessary. Trump hurt Americans with his trade policies far more than Canadians ever could. It was the economic equivalent of stepping on a rake.
Stepping on a rake was the right move for Thomas Hogarth, but the rest of us should think twice.
Like Hogarth’s Rake, we may all be in Bedlam.
As for Miller beer, I wouldn’t drink that swill even if it was free.
Exactly. The donkey piss that made Milwaukee famous.
Well, the vast majority of Canadians drink either Bud Light or Coors Light.
Miller Lite can’t be any worse.
And that must correlate to why the majority of Canadians are Liberals.
Small beer.
Me, I enjoy a few wee drams o’ whiskey, then wonder how my country devolved as it has.
“Well, the vast majority of Canadians drink either Bud Light or Coors Light.”
If true, that’s very sad. American beer is weak and tasteless, to me.
I don’t know anyone who drinks Bud Light or Coor’s Light. When buying beer in stores, most I know will buy Moosehead or Alexander Keiths or Kokanee.
For someone who claims to be a statistician, that’s an awfully dumb thing to say.
Funny, you didn’t have any trouble with Sporty claiming that the “vast majority” of Canadians drink either Bud Light or Coors Light, accepted without a modicum of evidence. Ease up on the double standards.
Whatever you do, don’t ask GYM if he’s a wanker. He’s all too willing to provide you with a moody cum of evidence…
Yes by the mouthful!
The real question is how cheaply can Canadians buy Tsingtao beer?
https://wallpapers.com/images/hd/tsingtao-beer-bottle-can-and-pint-glass-21jaa5s4y7og99hn.jpg
Pronounced … Ching Dao … to all the Punjabi-speakers in Canada
Ridiculous comment. Trumps trade policies put Canada out of the running.
I wasn’t talking about what Trump is doing to Canada. I was talking about what Trump is doing to America. Tariffs hurt the country that implements them as well as the country they’re aimed at.
An immediate example of that is the current aluminum shortage in the US, which is sending prices through the roof. Those shortages are caused by a combination of the Iran conflict and tariffs against Canadian aluminum.
” Tariffs hurt the country that implements them as well as the country they’re aimed at.”
That one’s a keeper.
This is a new level of inanity even for a TDS-afflicted rodent like you.
No need to take my word for it. Instead take the words of Friedman, Sowell, and Williams:
https://freedomsjournalinstitute.org/blog/2025/04/03/the-problems-with-tariffs-lessons-from-friedman-sowell-and-williams
We’re in the odd time where alleged conservatives support higher taxes and economic restrictions. Next they’ll be wearing Che Guevara t shirts.
From Yahoo Finance: According to Statistics Canada, the Canadian median income was $68,400 CAD, whereas, the US median income was $70,784 USD, according to the US Census. It doesn’t look like a massive difference but keep conversion rates in mind — $68,400 CAD is equal to $50,348 in USD. So Canadian is 50KUSD and United States is 70KUSD.
Ohhhhhhhh mommmaaaaa …
Our economy is cratering …
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/28/stock-futures-today-live-updates.html
Since 4-1-2025 … Trump tariff day …
45,500 45,631.74 August 22, 2025
46,000 46,108.00 September 11, 2025
46,500 46,519.72 October 2, 2025
47,000 47,207.12 October 24, 2025
47,500 47,544.59 October 27, 2025
48,000 48,254.82 November 12, 2025
48,500 48,704.01 December 11, 2025
49,000 49,462.08 January 6, 2026
49,500 49,504.07 January 9, 2026
50,000 50,115.67 February 6, 2026
51,000 51,032.46 May 29, 2026
52,000 52,182.74 June 29, 2026
True conservatives can count.
You consistently confuse the stock market with the economy.
One of Trump’s main campaign planks was that he would bring down inflation “on day one.” Instead he brought in widespread tariffs that drove up prices, pretty much guaranteeing that inflation would stay above the federal reserve’s target of 2%:
https://www.federalreserve.gov/economy-at-a-glance-inflation-pce.htm
His reward is a midterm election where the key issue is affordability:
https://davidkeys.com/midterm-elections-2026-update-key-races-major-issues-polling-trends-and-what-voters-need-to-know/
Yeah … the stock market operates completely independent of the economy. Unh huh …
Dude … you appear stuck back in the Clinton dot.con stock market when companies no longer needed to make a profit … or even have a product for sale … for their values to balloon.
Nope. The Wall Street stock market is all about profits … and actually selling products and services the main market needs and wants. And we’re buying at a very healthy pace
I didn’t say it was completely independent. Don’t put words in my mouth.
But they are not equivalent.
Most of the US stock market’s rise over the last 18 months is due to AI stocks, notably the Magnificent Seven. Also, the One Big Beautiful Bill entrenched previous temporary corporate tax cuts. That removed the risk that these tax cuts would lapse, and thus increased the value of companies to shareholders.
In short, rising share prices do not necessarily mean the economy is doing great.
AI stocks are all in the Nasdaq … which has also boomed … but go ahead … be a negative Nancy about AI. The ENTIRE Dow has risen … and not just the S&P which has also boomed. My stat chart was ONLY for the Dow. I can print the same escalating Nasdaq stats since Trump’s tariff day … but you’ll simply discount that as meaningless … SMH
And the investor class are all betting that the economy will continue to improve under Trump … and esp. under our new Fed Chief who will start easing interest rates that have been stifling the construction sector.
A booming stock market is always indicative of a healthy economy that investors are betting will only keep improving.
Kenji, KM,
The stock market is forward looking, so up is a good sign for the economy. However, stock ownership is concentrated among the already well-off. Inflation is too high (2% is too high!) and Warsh will probably need to raise rates to get it under control. Messaging will be critical for the midterms: right now “affordability” seems to be winning. Trump needs to turn that back, without appealing to a stock market that doesn’t benefit Joe Sixpack.
“People look to the share price for an indication of how the company is doing. Isn’t that backwards? In the old days, investors figured out how the business was doing and then set the share price.” Howard Marks
You have a bizarre — and possibly intentional — habit of misinterpreting everything that’s said. I suspect it’s a debating strategy.
I’m not negative about AI. In the short run it’s been overhyped, but in the long term the effects may be remarkable.
But AI is different than AI stocks. Just because a technology has a future doesn’t mean the stocks deserve an astronomical P/E, as we all saw in the dot-com bubble. And we certainly shouldn’t confuse an AI stock runup with a booming economy.
Noodlehopper … please note the stock market hardly ONLY forward-looking. Every time a corporation reports higher than expected earnings, investors immediately start buying shares. That’s not forward looking … it’s immediate/past looking.
And KM … you like to claim to be taken out of context when you simply are not. Stop crying so much, it’s not very manly … if that’s how you identify. And you keep banging the AI drum as if that’s the ONLY investment driving ALL markets to record after record close. Pssst … it’s EVERYTHING … everything is up across all industries … not just AI. Yeah, yeah … come after me for saying “everything” … OK OK … “nearly everything”.
Yeah, pretty sure you put words in people’s mouths just to derail debates you’re losing.
Let me make my point crystal clear: the stock market run up of the last 18 months is mostly due to soaring AI stocks and changes to tax law. It does not indicate a booming economy. In fact, conventional economy indicaters like GDP and employment show the economy to be rather meh.
Er, Killer, could you open a little wider? I’m trying to put words in your mouth and I can’t seem to get them to fit.
” Trump hurt Americans with his trade policies far more than Canadians ever could. ”
Uh-huh:
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In 2026, the U.S. economy is outperforming Canada’s, with U.S. GDP growth projected just over 2% compared to Canada’s sluggish 0.7% to 1.5%. Canada faces structural challenges including a chronic productivity and business investment gap, lingering trade uncertainty, and a softer labor market.
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Keep trying.
Once again, you unerringly miss the point.
I’m not saying that US tariffs against Canada hurt Americans more than Canadians. They likely don’t. But they DO … HURT … AMERICANS.
Oh that OUR economy should hurt so bad.
I’m not “hurt” in the least … and in-fact did quite a bit of Amazon Prime Day(s) Christmas shopping last week. Got some GREAT deals on … ohhhhhhhhhh mommmaaaaaaa … tariffed goods. LOL at your terminal TDS
Yes, swamp rat, that’s the ElBoWZo Talking Point™️.
Can you continue your pre-packaged, rhetorical, Liberal ElBoWZo later?
Troll.
From Yahoo Finance: According to Statistics Canada, the Canadian median income was $68,400 CAD whereas, the US median income was $70,784 USD, according to the US Census. It doesn’t look like a massive difference but keep conversion rates in mind — $68,400 CAD is equal to $50,348 in USD. So Canadian is 50KUSD and United States is 70KUSD.
I’m not talking about Canada versus the US. I’m talking about the fact that tariffs hurt Americans period.
Again. The ONLY thing that hurts me is California’s RIDICULOUSLY HIGH gasoline prices. But I don’t drive that much … so … meh. Now do my property taxes, bridge tolls, etc.
Big Hint swamp rat.
The Americans Do Not Think About You.
EVER!
And most of all, they do not give a white what YOU a think or say.
Back to your bridge, troll!
You’re a little thick, ByTheSea.
It doesn’t make a damn bit of difference whether Americans think of Canada or not. Their tariffs against Canadian goods still hurt them. Not as much as it hurts Canadians, but it still does damage.
C’mon people, Miller Genuine Draft is not a beer.
No worse than Coors Light or Bud Light which are the highest selling beers in Canada….even to the Elbows Up idiots.
I’m into the “crafty” hazy IPA. More bang for my buck. Heck, and I complained about the 5 bucks beer in Kauai back in ’98. Five freaking bucks, I swear, the most expensive 350 ml bottle o’beer I ever had, and put inflation on it!!!!
“How come the beer brewed in Canada is so much more expensive than that made in and shipped from America?”
Because everything in Canada, whether it moves or sits still, is taxed -way- more than the exact same thing in the USA. Transport, labor, ingredients, business tax, fuel… At every step of the manufacturing and distributing chain, not just once.
Meaning, if you make things outside of Canada, even though there’s duty on it when it crosses the border, it’s still cheaper than we can make it here. Usually 20% cheaper, at least. And that’s why nothing is made here.
Then there’s the fact that Molson/Coors USA probably spills more beer in a year than the total amount we make in Canada. Economy of scale is a thing, right?
Probably the same reason I can have junk shipped from China with less of a packing/shipping/handling cost than me sending that same junk to my mom a few hours away – in the same box.
Negra Modelo. $20 a twelver. Thank you, USMCA.
Sorry … I meant to say I won’t pay $20/6-pack of beer … see … it’s been THAT long since I bought ANY beer whatsoever. I do what all reasonable consumers do … boycott overpriced products. Don’t need em. Don’t care. Buh bye beer companies … Buh bye CA taxes.
Do you suppose the US beer and price is still up on the LCBO site because of an oversight, or, does someone just want to rub it in?
Probably because they have a warehouse somewhere full of the stuff that they can’t sell for political reasons.
The beer store is offering a 6 pack of Molson Miller Genuine draft at $19.23 for 473ml cans versus LickBo offering the bottles at $16.25 for 355ml.
Never mind that Molson Coors is a mostly US company now
Multi-culti … Multi-National corporations. We are the world … we are the children. Well TBF … Michael Jackson liked children quite too much … and acted like one too.
No. We are NOT all the world.
and
love isn’t love … if you’re diddling the children.
Miller-Coors has breweries all across Canada, so they can make any of their brands “in-country”, should they choose to do that. Extract of Canadian donkey is not that different from extract of American donkey.
sorry guys, but American and Canadian beer is shite compared to Aussie beer
Heh. You can have your roo piss.
Hey, never taunt an Australian. You’ll roo the day!
It’s no taunt. It’s a fact. Their beer is poor koalaty.
Because the LCBO is a government agency, and government “workers” are stupid, lazy, useless parasites who in Canada’s case have put the host on life support.
Coming right up for the CBC consuming Elbows Up But Trump crowd – empty rooms taxes. Shared misery.
“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”
H. L. Mencken
Too bad the rest of us are collectivist collateral damage. Coming soon, MAID Mom and Pop for the inheritance.
For the same reason that if you want cheap Canadian booze, you buy it in the US. Taxes. And tax on tax. Elevator taxes that never go down.
Wrong-o, Marmot. The tariffs are being eaten by the Chinese producers of the goods and the American sellers of those goods; that’s why they are both screaming. I say, let them both scream.
Biden alone is responsible for the huge run up in beef prices. He allowed the beef packing industry to become a duopoly. Instead of pursuing antitrust actions against the meatpackers, he had his justice department chasing everyday Americans because he figured they would not be voting for him or the Democrat party. Biden was the very worst president in US history, by far. It will take at least 2 1/2 years for the US beef herd to recover from its 70 year historic low number,, which will bring relief in the supermarket.
“Wrong-o, Marmot. The tariffs are being eaten by the Chinese producers of the goods and the American sellers of those goods; that’s why they are both screaming. I say, let them both scream.”
Yes, some people seem to lack an understanding of what tariffs are actually designed to do. Not to mention being totally unwilling to admit that the short-term effects during the implementation of tariffs are only temporary, whereas the long-term effects are not only permanent but justifiable (and desirable). Only an idiot would translate that to “tariffs hurt both countries”.
(well, an idiot or someone with irreversible TDS)
I guess Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman and Walter Williams and ten thousand other economists all had TDS. Or they’re idiots.
The MAGA crowd are suddenly authorities on macroeconomics, when 18 months ago they couldn’t define the term. In fact they still can’t define it, but they do know they have to support every action Trump makes no matter what. So they throw out economically illiterate arguments trying to defend the economically indefensible. Good luck with that.
For someone who whines all the time about other people deliberately misrepresenting their arguments, you’re doing a fair amount of it here.
You’re really quite a thin-skinned, insecure, pompous wanker. That more than anything else is why you’re attracting the derision you are here. You make no arguments of your own, you have no original thoughts; you just airily refer to other people’s work as if that kind of Appeal to Authority fallacy is going to convince anyone here.
Prairieboys and kraka77 have presented credible theories for why, taken in consideration with the rest of the moving parts that make up the modern US economy, tariffs benefit the US citizenry rather than harming them.
Refute them in your own words, or else shut the hell up.
Do you know why you’re defending tariffs?
Because you’ve got a crush on Trump, so anything he does must be defended to the hilt. If Trump buys into fringe economic beliefs, why they must be right. The fact that they run counter to damn near every economist in the land matters not a whit. Anyone who disagrees with Trump is stupid or deranged.
Well now, on the one hand, he really is a thin-skinned, insecure, pompous wanker. On the other hand, that’s part of his charm. I myself find the hooting and whistling to be very pleasant background noise, and it helps us appreciate the valuable if rare occasions when he actually has something worthwhile to say. Also, he keeps providing me with opportunities to mock him, and I enjoy the healthy exercise.
The Damn South American beef processing Oligopoly is killing us. Thank you Bernie and Biden.
No, the tariffs are being “eaten” (by which I think you mean paid for) by
1. Technically the US importer.
2. Ultimately the consumer.
I continue to purchase mass quantities of cheap ChiCom crap … cheaply … because that’s all Amazon sells. Zero impact to my household wallet whatsoever. None.
Stephen Miran, one of DJT principal economic advisors, wrote a white paper a couple of years back describing how US tariffs might work if implemented. Yes, the countries that export to the US and the importers that resell to the US consumer will each eat some of the tariff cost, plus over time the Currencies of the exporting countries (think Canadian $) will tend to weaken against the US$ making the cost of those goods that much cheaper. So in theory, a 20% tariff may end up only costing the American consumer only 5%, and if the US consumer gets a better job because a new factory just opened up, because of new money pouring in to the economy, and his or her 401K is moving up, well you get the picture. I think a few people might be voting for the R’s come November.
exactly, or as it was explained elsewhere. A pair of Levi jeans made in China cost them $5 and they sell them for $70. The 100% tariff meant they imported them for $10 and still sold them for $70 because its a consumer market. Its simplistic but you get the picture. The long term economic gain from bringing back manufacturing far outweighs the short term pain of tariffs that diminish over time as they do their job. People forget the yanks were coping tariffs for their exported goods that they weren’t charging in return. At the end of the day the POTUS has one job only, too look after the interests of the USA as a whole. As far as Canada goes, looking from afar, Carney’s chest thumping and back stabbing of Trump has to be the dumbest political strategy of all time-unless of course destroying Canada’s economy was the goal.
Inflation?
April 2020 bought a 6″ valve for irrigation system. $570.
Need to replace the guts, called the dealer I bought it from.
Gave him the Part number, their inventory number.
His response was “It’s $570”.
I brew my own White Nights Stout but for lawn mower beer, PBRs at less than a buck a can even here in North Pole, AK ain’t a bad buy.