171 Replies to “Dawn Breaks On Your-Buck-Ninety-Five-Or-Your-Country Coalition”

  1. Anyone know why there’s a dire need for a stimulus package when Canadian auto sales are up?
    As for the forest industry, if Layton is part of Dion’s cabinet will he re-open the softwood lumber agreement as he promised and lay the boots to the industry?

  2. Why is everyone so upset? Just sit back and watch the left self-destruct – they’ll get blamed for the economy and when they inevitably face the electorate, the CPC will be able to point at the left’s mismanagement… It’s actually hilarious to behold – liberals and NDP so keen to take control during a slide into recession. Any sane politico would let the CPC wear it.
    Harper, you’re a genius!

  3. I’m willing to bet khretien is behind this whole mess. CPAC has question period on, and steffi hasn’t said a single thing, yet.

  4. The Canadian MSM has said this:
    “In a historic political move, the leaders of the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc Quebecois signed a formal agreement Monday to co-operate as a coalition government” (ctv)
    …-
    By this signed agreement, three (3) Canadian political parties have died.
    The historic political move this day is:
    Conservative Prime Minister Harper has destroyed/slain three (3) Canadian political parties, to wit,
    the Liberal Party of Canada, the New Democratic Party of Canada, and the Bloc Quebecois.
    The left in Canada is now one socialist party.
    Bravo, PM Harper.

  5. I have contacted Douglas Christie in Victoria B.C.
    asking him to comment on the socialist coalition cabal.
    I received this email today and enclosing it with three paragraphs deleted simply for brevity, leaving in the essentials for any one wishing to contact the Western Block Party.
    I live in Ontario, I have posted previously here and elsewhere my worst fears that the Layton, Dion, and Duceppe troika are essentially communists in heart and soul and I fear that Canada (should they become government) will be a communist state in all but name, making the option of a FREE, independent, (property rights entrnched} capitalist western state very appealing.
    Joseph Molnar
    ……………………………………….
    BY EMAIL
    December 1, 2008
    Dear Sirs/Madams:
    I have had a number of inquiries from a number of people obviously concerned about the political crisis in Ottawa. This, in my opinion, is the logical outcome of a fundamentally flawed system. There is no way to rectify the problems that the Ottawa government has created and it is a waste of time for Western Canadians to continue to pour tax dollars into Ottawa in a corrupt and bankrupt system. Therefore, to those of you who are dismayed or concerned by what is going in Ottawa, I strongly urge you to do the following:
    Join the Western Block Party;
    Gather a group of Westerners who believe that Western Canada as an independent nation is a better option;
    Form a Western Block Constituency Association and hold meetings to discuss what should be done in your area;
    Once sufficient numbers appear to exist, see if you can contact us to arrange a meeting in a central location with a number of others in your area, so that we can have a successful public meeting to discuss these matters and I can answer any questions you may have at that time.
    If you have any other intervening questions, I would be happy to address them by email.
    >snip
    >snip
    >snip
    Thank you for your support and attention. Please keep in mind that unless your support manifests itself in some sort of monetary assistance, this exchange of information could amount to nothing but the ventilation of frustration. We cannot allow this moment of understanding to pass without concrete, constructive, lawful, political action.
    Yours for the independence of Western Canada,
    Douglas H. Christie
    Douglas H. Christie
    Barrister, Solicitor & Notary Public
    810 Courtney Street
    Victoria, B.C. V8W 1C4
    Tel: 250-888-3410 or 250-385-1022
    Fax: 250-479-3294

  6. gellen: “When the jackal was pumping out the ads before the election I wondered where the money was coming from. Now I’d really like to know.”
    Any bets on Power Corp? No wonder Taliban Jack, Bobo Rae, the Iggster, Little Dion, and Deceiving Duceppe were looking so sickeningly smug during the election campaign–aside from the fact that they were getting maximum positive coverage from their cheerleaders in the MSM. (Jeesh, not only do they expect free “ads” from their lapdogs in the media, they also want to rob the taxpayers for financial support to their waning parties …)
    Methinks these stooges have bitten off far more than they can chew–and I hope they choke on it. I’m sure as He** going to fight tooth and nail any way I can to stop this travesty of democracy. A pox on their houses: like He** they’ve got the best interests of Canadians at heart: only CERTAIN Canadians. Just watch our tax monies drip throught the coalition’s fingers–and all of the new taxes they’ll need to levy to keep their constituents’ happy.
    And they accuse the CPC of spending too much?? We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

  7. I love the comments on stuff like this at the leftie rag sheets.
    “Well, it’s obviously not the liberal’s fault…!!!”

  8. Very good article by Micheal Bliss in today’s NP. He asks,
    “How long would a Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition or partnership last?
    My guess is that it would collapse within a week — Parliament would be chaotic, backbenchers could not be controlled.”
    Further on:
    “There would have to be an election within weeks or months. Coalitions face monumental problems fighting elections because of duplications, conflicts and animosities at the grassroots and organizational levels, and this one would almost certainly go down in flames.”
    I’ve read the text of the agreement which lays the foundation for the coalition. It strikes me as a vague and naively optimistic recipe for constant infighting amongst the participants. A proposal for the “infrastructure” slush fund is limited to a handful of talking points, for instance. For a program which is rumored to cost in the neighborhood of $30 billion, I can only imagine the logistical nightmare of hashing this out amongst not one but three different caucuses.
    How all this spending will be funded is, for whatever reason, left completely unsaid. Raise the GST? Raise income or corporate taxes? Cut what spending, and where? Apparently funding levels for “cultural” matters are to be restored to where they were before the nasty Tories took over, so that’s not an option. If these guys are seriously thinking that they can just address these complex issues as they pop up, look out for plenty of fireworks. Getting out the party “whip” won’t work here.
    The document is typical of a pact that was cobbled together in hours, not months. Given the scope of the issues at hand, it is absurd to think that you can even come close to covering all the bases in this short a time. The circus has clearly come to town, only this time all Canadians are going to be unwilling participants in the trapeze show.

  9. With news that the Commies will overturn the 50B tax break to corporations, you bet it took a dive. Economic-minded people know the NDP in power means bad news for the economy, full stop.

  10. LindaL: “The appointment of the ‘actress’, rather than a statesman (woman) with a strong record of leadership in Canada was a dire mistake for which we may now pay the consequences.”
    I vividly remember where I was on that August day in 2005 when I read the announcement of Prime Minister Paul Martin’s appointment of Michaelle Jean as Governor-General of Canada. I had a premonition of doom. ‘Looks like I wasn’t just being dramatic.
    What the … ?

  11. Canada,
    Head of State – Queen of Canada – Unelected Foreigner
    Head of Government – Gov Gen – Unelected Foreigner
    Chief Executive – Prime Minister – Unelected – Appointed by the Queen
    Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces – Queen of Canada – Unelected Foreigner Federal Senate – Senator – Unelected – Appointed by the Queen
    House – MP – Directly and democratically elected
    Head of State Provincial – Lieutenant Governor – Appointed by the Queen
    Chief Executive Provincial – Premier – Appointed by the Queen
    Provincial Senate – Senator – Appointed by the Queen
    Provincial House – MPP – Directly and democratically elected
    Inalienable Rights of Citizenry – Non-existent – Only the Queen fully and Titled nobles enjoy most of these rights.
    Private Property (Real Property) – Only Titled nobles may actually hold land titles.
    Power Flow God – Queen (Sovereign) – Government – People
    USA
    Head of State – President – Elected
    Head of Government – President – Elected
    Chief Executive – President – Elected
    Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces – President – Elected
    Federal Senate – Senator – Elected
    House – Congressman –Elected
    Head of State ( State) – Governor – Elected
    Chief Executive (State) – Governor – Elected
    State Senate – Senator – Elected
    State House – Elected
    Inalienable Rights of Citizenry – Yes – Codified in the Constitution
    Private Property (Real Property) – Yes –US citizens are sovereign and indeed enjoy inalienable rights to own title to land.
    Power Flow God – Citizen (Sovereign) – Town – County – State – Federal Government

  12. Just watching BNN for a while tonight, there’s some very worried guys on tonight. Consensus is
    A)The GG will be on -very- shaky legal ground if she doesn’t call an election. That’s the constitutional directive here, defeat the government with a no-confidence vote, call an election.
    B) A $30 billion dollar pork explosion of “economic stimulus” would be essentially useless short term and potentially disastrous long term. Furthermore money directed to forestry and cars will be money piled up in the street and burned.
    C) The mention of Jack Layton as Deputy Prime Minister was uniformly terrifying. Even the Globe and Mail guy thought that was terrifying.
    Me, I already buried my gold. They can do what they want, I’m going to sit back and watch them all go to hell in a hand basket.

  14. Here’s the deal:
    The Bloc wants to destabilize Canada, if not cripple it, in order to create the perfect condition for another referendum. This time positive.
    The NDP wants to be the official ‘Labour’ opposition. In order to do that, they have to replace the Liberals.
    The Liberals are too drunk on past glory as the ‘Natural Governing Party’ versus the reality of their declining status into an irrelevant rump party, to see the forest for the trees.
    A perfect storm. I love it. Let it play out.

  15. Let me see if I got this straight: The CPoC, with 143 seats, duly elected by Canadians to govern this country (with increased voter support from the previous election no less!), represented in ALL parts of Canada, from coast-to-caost, save for Newfoundland, becomes the Offical Opposition? And given the fact that they oppose the agenda of this so-called coalition, will have no legislative power in parliament while a separatist party, which ran no candidates outside a single province, will have REAL power to get things done in parliament? How can that be justified?! This is CRIMINAL!
    The RAPE of our democracy. No two ways about it.

  16. Deluded is the Taliban Jackal; Professor Dijon and Captain Duplicitous are laughing their arses off.

  17. Joe Molnar: thanks for publishing the contact information for Doug Christie as I’ll be joining the Western Block party as soon as I can find my checkbook.
    I can’t think of anything that has gotten me this angry in some time. I was disappointed in the Canadian election result, but thought that things were settled for a while. If the traitorous troika take power without an election, then all forms of resistance are appropriate. Some things I’ll be implementing immediately such as not buying anything made in eastern Canada and joining a separatist political party. Future actions will depend on what happens over the next week or two.
    If Alberta decides to separate, then the interior of BC will likely split from the coastal moonbats and join Alberta. Having lived in both Vancouver and the interior I find that they’re two different worlds and I much prefer the interior. One thing that Alberta could do now would be to kick out the RCMP and start its own provincial police force to start reducing federal control of the west. Time to find out where I’ve got those “let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark” bumper stickers stashed away.
    Note: I know there are quite a few conservatives in places like Ontario and maybe the best thing would be to split off Toronto and Ottawa and have the rural parts of Ontario join with a free-enterprise and freedom oriented west.

  18. loki–Ottawa is one of the bluest regions of the country, voting primarily Conservative.
    The people in Ottawa wouldn’t want to be lumped in with Toronto. Trust me. I’m a south-eastern Ontario gal.
    If Stephane wants the Parliament buildings, he can keep them. But the rest of Ottawa? Who says it wants to be part of the east?
    Personally, I’m thinking the Okanagan looks like a pretty good place to move to right now.

  19. After watching the smug smiles on the 3 Stooges after their coup d’etat announcement, one can only conclude that
    no sheep is safe tonight.

  20. The damage is done,the notion of a unified Canada is gone forever.If given the chance the GG will install the coalition,that is in the bag.The country will slowly break apart.I doubt that Alberta will stand idly by while some Eastern bastards with no mandate drains their treasure to support whatever remains of the manufacturing base in Ontario and Quebec all the while continuing to make ‘equalization’payments.No matter the outcome of this latest powerplay this country is effectively finished,and the East-West divide cannot be bridged.

  21. I’m tired of the MSM, particularly the CBC and Newman, constantly invoking the 1985 Rae-Peterson coalition as some sort of analogy to justify this RAPE of the democratic process. It’s NONSENSE and the reason is quite simple! The two party’s which formed that coalition minority, the Liberals and Rae-led NDP, ran candidates in ALL parts of Ontario so that if the people disapproved of their time in power they could hold each of those parties to account at the ballot box in the subsequent election. Now, seeing as how legislation CAN’T be passed without support from the BQ, how can Canadians outside Quebec, such as myself, hold the BQ accountable for the decisions they make? Simply put, we can’t.
    Legislative power given to a party that you and I can NEVER hold to account – THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED! It meets the criteria for a dictatorship!

  22. 100000 PO’d cons converging on Ottawa to show our disapproval may do the trick to change some minds, and if not maybe we could get a little more forcefull, like put our 4X4’s to good use!!!

  23. Bwahahahahahahaha…Love it.It is 6:37 PM in Edmonton.Just phoned a Yank lawyer.Guess what??? Myself and the better half can quailify as political refugees in the States if the coup d’etat goes through.Uh.And who woulda thunk I kept all my savings and investments in Yankee bucks for just this moment.Now. What is the name of the new country going to be? How about the NEW SOVIET REPUBLIC.

  24. When is someone in the MSM going to ask Duceppe this…
    “Mr Duceppe, how do you feel about being given the power to pass legislation on behalf of ALL CANADIANS when you didn’t run candidates outside Quebec? What do you say to Canadians outside Quebec who may not agree with legislation that’s only able to pass with your party’s consent?”
    Someone please play devil’s advocate and, if you were an adviser to Duceppe, answer that in a way that doesn’t make him look contemptuous of the democratic process.
    Note: the above questions should also be asked of Dion and Layton. I’d be very interested to hear the reply from each of them, one that’s given with a straight answer and doesn’t veer off into a “Harper’s to blame” reply.

  28. What will GG say, if asked. My take/spin on this:
    Statement from Her Excellency, Michaelle Jean, Governor General of Canada:
    dated: January 31, 2009
    Now that the government has been defeated in confidence, I am in receipt of letters from the Conservative government, the two leaders of the proposed coalition, and from the Honourable Gilles Duceppe, leader of the Bloc Quebecois.
    I have met with the Prime Minister. At that meeting he told he that it was his intention to dissolve parliament. If I acceded then he would resign and call a federal election.
    I decided to defer my decision until I met with the coalition leaders.
    I have also met with Messrs Dion and Layton, in which they assured me they could command the confidence of Parliament, through their coalition agreement and that with Mr Duceppe, where he agreed he would not defeat the new government for at least one year, with two budgets presented.
    Mr Harper makes a compelling case for dissolution, and it is a rare event for the Governor General to refuse assent for such. However, I note we just had a general election on 14 Oct, just two and half months ago. If he cannot command the confidence of Parliament, then I am honour bound to consider if any other parties, or combinations thereof, can.
    For that reason I deferred my decision on this matter until I could meet with the opposition, which I did.
    My first and only concern is the stability of parliament. If is not my function to infer what voters may have meant on 14 Oct 08 when they cast their ballot for this or that candidate and party. That is a political matter.
    I was assured that this coalition could command the confidence of parliament. This would not be the first time a combination of parties have been granted government without benefit of a general election. While that option is within my purview, I must admit trepidation to grant the opposition request for the following reasons:
    1. The proposed coalition has less seats than the present government, and requires the agreement of the Bloc Quebecois. History has shown these agreements can be broken, that these agreements tend to very unstable. What possible good can come from denying electorate a choice in this matter, if an election is necessitated soon afterwards anyway?
    2. Is the possible instability and cost of another election enough to deny the Prime Minister’s request? Has his government, newly elected this past Fall, been given enough to garner the support necessary to govern? Indeed, will my assent to the coalition position make parliament even more unstable? What are the consequences to Canadian democracy of such a decision on my part, given I am removed from politics and not part of the electoral process?
    3. I must consider the unprecedented nature of the request by the coaliton proponents to not grant Mr Harper’s request for coalition. Additionally, I am troubled by the fact the Bloc will not be part of the coalition, so will have much less interest than the other two parties that this session of parliament succeed. As I stated earlier, these types of agreements have been broken before, and have almost resulted in political crisis. I must emphasize again that my office must be, and be seen as, above politics.
    I am also troubled that the Bloc Quebecois runs, and has elected members from only one province, but will hold the balance of power for the new coalition. I would be more comfortable with this notion if they were actually part of the government, rather than perhaps having interest in only the narrow constituency of Quebecers, one of ten provinces and three territories.
    4. On precedent, I note that the last time the Governor General refused a dissolution request was in 1926. Then, Mackenzie King made the request, but only after not having secured the most seats in the 1925 general election. Such is not the case this time, with Mr Harper having garnered the most seats in parliament, albeit with a minority, but with only 12 seats short of a majority.
    5. How can I be sure the coalition will be as stable with ability to pass legislation, as the present government? How can I in good consience trade the surety, albeit with cost, of a general election, with the granting of government to a potentially unstable minority coalition?
    In light of the factors outlined above my decision is this. I will further defer my decision for 60 days. I expect all parliamentarians to act to make the legislature work, to give it a chance to do its job, to govern. If that fails, but until and unless the Bloc Quebecois become part of the governing coalition, with cabinet representation, preferrably with their leader as Deputy Prime Minister, and therefore with a true stake in that government, I will grant Mr Harper’s request for dissolution.

  29. Someone abover wrote: “I’m finding it fascinating that the left seems *not* to want a vote on it.”
    You’ve got to be kidding, right? If the left had their way there would never be such a thing as a ‘vote’. Look what the left – both NDP and Bloc and to a lesser degree Liberal, are doing right now. Look at how the NDP would instantly do away with ‘secret ballot’ voting within unions.
    Democracy is antithetical to socialism/communism.
    Warwick wrote: “Yes, take us with you. Anything west of guelph is good people. We hate Toronto, too!!!”
    Sorry Warwick, my friend. Geography is against you. However, the west is still a place of big, wide open spaces and friendly people with lot’s of opportunity.
    Our climate is better, our scenery (mostly) prettier and we believe in personal responsibility and less government. You’re certainly welcome to join us.

  31. Premier Stemlach, said on radio today that he thinks cooler heads will prevail. I’m not so sure. Eddie is getting a wake up e-mail call from yours truly. Ejackulayton, was smug while he read from his song sheet. He said to PMSH “you have lost the confidence of the house, and we will be removing you from government as soon as possible” Plick, oh to catch him in a dark alley.

  32. Here’s the e-mail from the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers to it’s members:
    Quote “November 30, 2008
    To: Canadian Locals and Staff
    From: Dave Ritchie, GVP
    After pushing an early $300 million election on Canadians this October, the Harper Conservatives have shown that they are incapable of governing. Instead of focusing on the needs of Canadians, reversing our economic decline, stimulating our economy and creating jobs, the Harper Conservatives have come forward with a cynical and partisan attack on workers and communities.
    In response, there is a strong possibility that the minority Conservatives will be defeated in a confidence vote on December 8. A new coalition government would then be formed by the Liberals and New Democrats, with Bloc Quebecois support. This coalition, representing a majority of Canadians, is an opportunity to deal with the crisis and take back our government.
    The Conservatives will no doubt mount a desperate campaign to cling to power. Over the next week, the Canadian Labour Congress will join with many other groups to mobilize support for the Coalition. There will be rallies in major centres, a public awareness campaign, and programs to ensure that Members of Parliament understand where the Canadian people stand.
    I am asking you to assist in mobilizing IAM members to participate in this campaign to secure our future. The Canadian Office will be sending out more information in the next couple of days.
    I look forward to your support and full participation
    Dave Ritchie, GVP” Unquote

  33. How is it possible that the GG’s response to this matter is still in question? As ridiculous as it is that she personally has the power to decide on the aftermath of a non-confidence vote, it’s even more ridiculous that she hasn’t yet come out and clarified what her response WILL be!
    Frankly, I hope there is a non-confidence vote, just so I can say that “I was there” when the Liberal party committed suicide.

  34. Andy Canuck
    I tried to vote “No” and got the following message.
    “You’ve already voted, but here are the results anyway”
    I had not voted before.
    Maybe they don’t like the results.
    Yes 2587 39%
    No 3676 56%
    Don’t know 230 3

  35. I suppose that’s why the DOw is down, too. They must really love Harper in New York.

  36. The Package Stimulus Party cares little for free markets anyway…
    Isn’t this sinking in yet as the greatest Conservative event in Canadian history?
    🙂

  38. I’ve heard the term package stimulus 100 times at least since Friday. I mean really, how many times is the Package Stimulus Party going to tell us about how important a package stimulus is?

  39. Don’t count on this GG to do the right thing, she’s bought and paid for and as crooked as all the other ELB’s, eastern liberal bastards/bitches. BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.

  41. Shameless reporting on The National. Mansbridge offers the primer: “Can Stephen Harper’s gov’t be saved from the trash bin of history?”
    Of course, not something that avoids the use of such an obvious pejorative descriptor like simply saying “defeated”.
    After some technical difficulties running the piece from Bonner, he finally gets to it after a commercial break. In her piece, Bonner piles on, saying, “Prentice stood to answer a question and was shouted down by the opposition with ‘leader, leader'”.
    Then she adds for the viewer: “Note Harper’s body language”.
    The next piece is done by Orminston, who focuses on the web aspect to this developing story. She goes to the CPoC website and shows that when you punch in your postal code, it gives you a list of radio stations to call in to to voice your complaints.
    She concludes that segment with a sarcastic tone and says, “So much for unscripted talk radio.”
    One can only shake their head. Hopefully, this will all end up with Harper getting the last laugh, an election, a majority, and selling off this mouthpiece for the LPC.

  44. So, where are the conspiracy theorists? A Liberal appointed GG with separatist ties and the government knows who has the guns.

  46. So the Buck Ninety Five Coalition is going to bring down the Harper government for not running a large enough deficit after lambasting him for weeks for running a deficit?

  47. Doesn’t this latest political situation give new meaning: “Canada – it’s not a real country anyway.”
    Simplest, most concise explanation I’ve seen to date
    voanews.com/english/2008-12-02-voa2.cfm

  48. the ndp is a callous and hungry group motivated by historically proven failed policies. the liberals are a bankrupt gang of poseurs. the bloc is a marginalized expression of political history. they are all private organizations funded by the taxpayer. this is all coming to an end.
    thank goodness.

  49. I think if you feel strongly about avoiding the painful state of being governed by Duceppe, Layton and Dion, you should probably write the governor general, as it is my understanding that the constitutional precedent, especially in this case, is murky, and that her decision may be swayed by public opinion.
    I’ve written her the following, if you think I should add or take something out or have any other advice, let me know. Thanks:
    To: Michelle Jean, Governor General of Canada
    In light of recent political events, it has come to my attention that you will be making an important constitutional decision in the near future which will have a dramatic impact on the international political representation of our country. In making this momentous decision I ask that you consider the nature and context in which this proposed coalition is being formed. While it may be legitimate in some circumstances for parties in opposition remove the governing party from power, such as when gross incompetence is demonstrated, in this case there has only recently been an election, and none of the political parties has had ample time to fully consider the impact of the economic downturn on our country’s economy. It is my concern that the proposed coalition government will act rashly and may either take action when none is needed or take the wrong action.
    I also ask you to consider whether Canadian voters would have assented to a governing coalition in which a party primarily motivated by political secession wields veto power on any legislation passing through parliament . It is unreasonable to assume that voters could have foreseen these exceptional events when they were voting on October 14th, and it is my opinion that the outcome may have been different if they had considered a coalition government of this nature possible.
    Please take these concerns into consideration before making your decision regarding the possible formation of a coalition government or the dissolution of parliament. Sincerely,
    ……..

  50. southpark, you got it: “Doesn’t this latest political situation give new meaning: ‘Canada – it’s not a real country anyway’.”
    A Cana-banana-da Republic.
    My only hope as we sink into the swamp is that this political tsunami clears the landscape, and reveals the leftist/socialist scum for what they are, as they viciously fight to keep their lagging parties propped up by taxpayers’ hard-earned dollars, because their own “supporters” won’t shell out even $1.95.

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