171 Replies to “Dawn Breaks On Your-Buck-Ninety-Five-Or-Your-Country Coalition”

  1. [Star Poll]
    thestar.com Poll
    Do think a Liberal-NDP coalition with Bloc support would lead to good government?
    Yes 1117 39%
    No 1620 57%
    Don’t know 96 3%
    Yep, that bastion of conservative thought, the Tranna Star, comes out massively NOT supporting the Faustian coalition. The triumvirate of Faust looks like it is getting its horns clipped in mighty short order. A jar of halo-polisher may be in order for this blackened plot.
    Thus 57% believe the Faustian coalition will result in BAD government.
    Next we will hear the coalition of Faust express contrition and all get religion.
    Cheers
    Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    Frankenstein Battalion
    2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
    Knecht Rupprecht Division
    Hans Corps
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North

  2. [ “The turmoil generated by the uncertainty of these events in combination with the unknown of a new three-party coalition could prompt flight-to-safety flows in Canada,” said TD Securities Eric Lascelles in a research note. “The longer-term implications are far too uncertain to speculate about now, and rely not just upon whether Canada gets a new government but also on how any new hypothetical coalition government would govern, and how long it would last.” ] globeinvestor

  3. Has any of the western premiers been heard from?
    If I’m the premier of AB I’m promising a referendum on soveriegnty to be held within 6 months of the leftard coalition.
    It’s time to get Toronto’s attention. (I say this as someone who lives 200km west of Toronto. And no, I can’t stand them either. In the rest of Ontario we refer to it as hog town.)

  4. Att: Comrade Commissars and Snags.
    Here are the Orders of The Day from Party HQ, aka THE CANADIAN PRESS CORPS.
    Aux Armes, Citoyens: Slay the ‘arper Dragon.
    Onward, Comrades. Into the Future; faster, faster.
    Signed, Napoleon Dionky.
    …-
    “Liberal-NDP officials meet to resolve coalition snags
    By Bruce Cheadle, THE CANADIAN PRESS
    OTTAWA – The Liberals and NDP have agreed to a $30-billion stimulus package as part of a tentative coalition deal to oust the Harper government.
    A senior Liberal source says the deal does not include any repeal of corporate tax cuts as the NDP demanded in the election campaign.
    The source says it does involve an economic advisory panel of experts, including Paul Martin, John Manley Frank McKenna, and Roy Romanow.
    NDP adviser Ed Broadbent says the deal will include substantial aid to the troubled auto and forestry industries.
    The NDP would get 25 per cent of the seats in a new coalition cabinet under the arrangement.
    If all opposition parites(sic) sign off on the agreement, the next step is for the opposition to vote down the government and ask Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean to let them form a new administration.”
    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/12/01/7590456-cp.html
    BTW, STOPIGGY.

  5. Oil drops below $50.
    Gold down $50/oz.
    DOW down 5%. Europe, Asia similarly.
    After last week’s rally, with some institutional window dressing late friday, a down day was inevitable anyway.
    Contribution of political shenanigans to the tsx drop? Zero to nil.

  6. Prorogue parliament. Stack the senate and appoint all unfilled judicial appointments so the leftard pretenders can’t. Bonnie Prince Stephie must be crushed.

  8. Don’t put too much “stock” in what TSX is doing today. I’m hearing lots about the Grit dream team, but haven’t heard squat from Bloc. Does the 2.5 year no election clause include written confirmation from them? Without that, only the worst case (I believe not) of GG willing dupe would yield minority coalition power.
    Think of it. A minority coalition, where the ruling party still needs outside support to pass legislation (given 100% certainty Tories will vote against their “stimulus” package, also known as giving the economy a bennie. Or perhaps a whole bottle).
    Add this to it. The second party in the “coalition” is separatist, and even if one is willing to overlook this, it still means that only voters in Quebec can decide the fate of this minority coalition.
    The junta, sorry coalition, plans to ask the GG for power based on their argument their regime would be more stable than the present. Without written assurance from Bloc they wouldn’t vote against the new government on confidence for at least two years, the GG would have to be a partisan hack to give them the opportunity.
    My view is she will find a way to throw it back at them all, if it gets that far. While she may refuse Harper’s request for dissolution, she could still reject the alternative if she doesn’t believe it will be stable. Then she sends them back to parliament, says work it out or she will grant dissolution.
    In late Jan 09 that is. If it gets that far Harper will have no choice but to prorogue parliament. The coalition and the media will howl, so let them. Don’t you see it’s procedural, so anything goes; isn’t that how it works?
    Then we will see. My gut feel is Harper will go as far as to roll over and play dead, without compromising economically, to try to mollify the coalition. Then we will have a election, and the voters will be really p****d off at everybody.
    And, except in Quebec, we will be back to a two party system, with the broke Liberals running their dipper friendly dream team (we’re trying to save Canada, one $1.95 vote at a time, but now not each? No wait a minute).
    Frankly, I think Harper will hoop them on major issue of the day, economics. Canadians who thought they were in the safe harbour of minority, will then find themselves in a perfect storm of neo Liberals. That, IMHO, would be remedied at the polls.
    Canada is in good shape relatively speaking, and our resources and know how are in demand. We are also seen as a stable country, and that makes a difference.
    If this gambit works, that can change. Its success will set many precedents, but the most damning will be to invalidate any future minority government, where other parties can quickly defeat the election victor in the House to seize power. This is inherently unstable government, especially given the Quebec/separatist element, with frequent elections and parliamentary turmoil.
    Look, results speak for themselves; Harper has erred on this one. But, was that a catalyst or convenient opportunity? Don’t Liberals realize they are playing craps with the voter and the economy by inviting corporation haters like Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe to the table? They’re already talking about about increasing corporate taxes by $50 billion.
    Seems to me they’ve already bought into Layton oil companies and banks bad argument. The only problem is they take most of that money from small businesses, whose owners are already forced to pay income taxes on their earnings, after paying income taxes on their effort’s earnings. This kind of economic illiteracy is rampant in this coalition, and does not portend well for a properly measured response in these times.
    Is this what WE want?

  10. Shamrock
    You do know the GG’s history, right? French CBC, Liberal appointee, separatist…
    The GG IS a partisan hack. Duceppe’s partisan hack.

  11. Beyond its short term outcome, the current political mess has revealed two truths.
    1. Anyone who thinks proportional representation would solve this country’s problems is delusional. It would ensure permanent chaos, much like what we are seeing now. The effect in Canada would be much worse than, say, in Italy, since the Italians are at least used to it and don’t have a separatist faction to accommodate.
    2. Canada has become close to ungovernable. The regional and ideological differences have become so entrenched that any kind of general consensus is almost impossible.
    In my opinion, the only viable solution is for Quebec to leave Confederation, thereby permitting both cultural groups to pursue their destinies without the usual extortion and grossly distorted political maneuvers.
    Barring that, the west (and perhaps small town Ontario) should go it alone, leaving the decrepit east to manage its dying industries and unsustainable social programs as best it can. Should the coalition actually materialize I would expect this option to be widely supported.
    I never thought it would come to this, but unless a great many people in this country suddenly come to their senses I think that’s the way we are headed.

  12. jim303
    Yes, take us with you. Anything west of guelph is good people. We hate Toronto, too!!!
    (this is sad. I’m actually whimpering and begging. Don’t leave us in trudeaupian hell!)

  14. Imagine! The New York Stock Exchange is SO concerned about affairs in Canada … it has PLUNGED to the same degree as the TSE! (not)

  15. All the wankers from Bloor St and the Beaches are cooing with pleasure.
    999 Queen Street East is closer to the mark.

  16. Warwick, “We hate Toronto, too!!!”
    Can we join the trek?
    Having said this many times:
    *”But westward, look, the land is bright.”
    (*H/T AH Clough)
    But, we remain in Ontario to fight for Canada, “The True North strong and free”.
    “Say not the struggle nought availeth”.

  17. It is time to float my idea again. The winner of each riding receives the $1.95 or some other amount as the elected winner’s annual salary. If you don’t like any of the candidates, withholding your vote will count for something. The elected winner will work for next to nothing in your riding. The more popular the candidate the higher the annual earnings.
    Pass it on.

  18. Kate,
    This is nonsense. Sorry, but I’ll call it like I see it.
    Sure the TSX dropped like a stone today, but so did the DOW. They’re both falling off the sucker’s rally of last week, which should only be expected in light of dismal economic data to the south.
    Don’t conflate everything with our messed up political system. It just makes you lose credibility when you do.
    Gord

  19. I fear for my country. If you western folks bail out (and I don’t blame you), how bout taking us Northwestern Ontario folks along for the ride. Always felt more Manitoba/Saskatchewan than downtown hogtown.

  20. I fear for my country. If you western folks bail out (and I don’t blame you), how bout taking us Northwestern Ontario folks along for the ride. Always felt more Manitoba/Saskatchewan than downtown hogtown.

  21. I fear for my country. If you western folks bail out (and I don’t blame you), how bout taking us Northwestern Ontario folks along for the ride. Always felt more Manitoba/Saskatchewan than downtown hogtown.

  25. Thanks , Jack and Stephanie.
    If your little friends campaign in the next election – don’t knock on my door , unless you have a cheque in hand to make up for my pension fund losses.
    I may set my dogs on them , although disinfecting their mouths after they have tasted your rancid , lazy , useless flesh might be beyond my budget now.

  26. Welcome to New France. The plains of Abraham never happened. Remember Chrétien saying to the European Union. That it would have been better for the French to have won? Next will be a Unilingual French only Bureaucracy run by Quebec while they ransack the Nation.
    as a Westerner its time I say we go as fast as we can press Red Ed to move.

  27. Sam S. I think even journalists are shocked at the audacity of the coalition “leaders” who presume to take over the running of the government, without a mandate from the people of Canada. Nobody voted for the COALITION led by Dion and in bed with the separatiste leader and the strutting Jack Layton.
    Dion has dual citizenship of both Canada and France.
    The Governor General’s husband is a separatiste.
    It was clear from the results of our recent election that Canadians DON’T WANT DION as our leader.
    This scenario is just TOO bizarre!

  28. If this travesty happens can the provinces withold federal tax money from Ottawa? Can businesses refuse to send taxes to what is clearly an illegitimate government that does not have the best interests of the entire country at heart but rather Quebec and Toronto and backroom power brokers and labour unions?
    Layton admitted on the tape that he has been in close consultation with labour union leaders.
    Can we as the people file charges of treason when a group of people who refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of Canada or the Monarchy are then in power over us all?
    And, how can the BLOC even be part of the Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition when they do not acknowlege the Queen?
    Any legal beagles out there who can give some ideas???

  29. And then you have that moron John McCallum saying that the stock drop has nothing to do with the coalition announcement.
    Oh really? Then, pray tell, what caused it you nimrod? Honestly, these people are pathetic.

  30. So – let me get this straight: Dion becomes PM, then a few months later after the convention we have another new PM (Ignatief???) neither of which gained auhtority from a general election? AND a party dedicated to the destruction of the country has veto power for everything??? My take on it: IT’S TIME TO SAY GOODBYE.

  31. As someone who lives in the USA, but has a bank account at a Canadian owned bank, I will close my account there and open one somewhere else if this deal goes through.

  32. I am so happy that my meagre taxes from my small business and personal income will help bail out the auto industry and their $72.00 an hour employees and CEOs Heaven forbid they have to get another job and live on what my family does.

  33. I bank at the Bank of Nova Scotia. It is time to move it to the Alberta Treasdury Branch or local Credit Unions.

  34. The Troika*.
    “The Socialist, the Separatist, and the Citizen of France**.
    …-
    “Opposition agrees to coalition with Dion as PM
    In a historic political move, the leaders of the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc Quebecois signed a formal agreement Monday to co-operate as a coalition government for at least 18 months.”
    (ctv)
    …-
    *”NKVD troika. The word became notorious in the Soviet Union during the Stalinist era: troikas replaced the normal legal system”
    http://www.answers.com/topic/troika
    **H/T Bourque

  35. Down almost 10% today. hmmm, I wonder why that was?
    Hey, I forgot that. Dijon is a French citizen!! He is now working to destroy Canada! Traitor isn’t the word; he is enemy.

  37. Lavalin, Quebecor, Toronto Dominion Bank,Power Corp, Liberal Party, are all eagerly awaiting that $30 billion “stimulus” stolen from Alberta and working stiffs like me.

  38. mcbeaner, you’re very welcome to move to BC. Join the surge!
    AtlanticJim is too cantankerous, even for us.

  39. WE ARE LIVING IN A CANANA REPUBLIC!!
    I have left-leaning friends who are very angry about this — they accepted the vote of the people who chose PM Harper.

  40. Okay, put me out of my misery. Is this really DO-ABLE? Does anybody believe this wasn’t in the works long before it blew up? What a nightmare. Banana republic or what?

  41. If this goes through, the “coalition of swillers” will not be able to avoid an election for ever, assuming a country still exists. They will be anihilated for playing bum-boy to the spearatists. The GG will be persona non-grata in her own country; and Dijon will only be welcome in his country, France.

  43. Well, as citizen of both Canada and Australia, I do have options, however, I don’t like to have my hand forced.
    Criticism of PMSH is unfounded – it’s just that no rational person ever realized the depths to which the libs and dippers would sink to in the effort to take power.
    Note that I don’t include the bloc in that. I am a resident of QC and have been for 35 years. I love QC and I always will, but it would be madness to allow the Bloc to have access to your bank account at this (or any other) time.
    You will note that we Quebecers are not going to let the PQ have any say over our economy for the forseeable future.
    (Disclosure: I have already voted and I did not vote for either liar Charest or the PQ).
    I do believe it is time for us to go our separate ways: the west, Ontario, QC and the rest. No equalization, no GG, no coalitions, no NEP. Sink or swim – I’ll go where the water’s fine!

  44. If the bloc is not an offical part of the coalition of the swilling, just a sidebar understanding, then the Liars cannot show they can form a government. If they are, then there is no way the GG can accept them in teh government. Except she is a Liberal and her husband a separatist.
    The Liars will have to do a lot of fast talking to avoid the obvious.

  45. This is unreal.
    Very upset in this household.
    Like declaring the winning the race fair and square, and then having the winner hand the prize over to the losers, forcibly.
    Deluded way of thinking, just deluded.
    We won’t be recognizing the unelected governing body until we vote again.
    Banana state indeed.

  46. So now we know why Dion was in no hurry to step down, he knew this “coup d’état” was going to happen …

  48. Ugh I just went to the GG’s website. The Queens representative huh. Looks more like a web page for much music promo.
    The sell off today is sympathetic to events in China, however I suspect that to some degree Canada has been a safe haven repository. With the largest one day decline now on record money that once considered this a safe place is having second thoughts.
    Should this coalition become a reality I fear that you will see a far more significant run. Essentially what is left is hard American assets.
    I am amazed in this day and age cheap political tricks such as this are being pulled out to destabilize the country and this will certainly do that.

  49. Of what does this remind you?
    ALL HEADS:
    You’re a Knight of the Round Table?
    ROBIN:
    I am.
    LEFT HEAD:
    In that case, I shall have to kill you.
    MIDDLE HEAD:
    Shall I?
    RIGHT HEAD:
    Oh, I don’t think so.
    MIDDLE HEAD:
    Well, what do I think?
    LEFT HEAD:
    I think kill him.
    RIGHT HEAD:
    Oh, let’s be nice to him.
    LEFT HEAD:
    Oh, shut up.
    ROBIN:
    Perhaps I could–
    LEFT HEAD:
    And you. Oh, quick! Get the sword out. I want to cut his head off!
    RIGHT HEAD:
    Oh, cut your own head off!
    MIDDLE HEAD:
    Yes, do us all a favour!
    LEFT HEAD:
    What?
    RIGHT HEAD:
    Yapping on all the time.
    MIDDLE HEAD:
    You’re lucky. You’re not next to him.
    LEFT HEAD:
    What do you mean?
    MIDDLE HEAD:
    You snore!
    LEFT HEAD:
    Oh, I don’t. Anyway, you’ve got bad breath.
    MIDDLE HEAD:
    Well, it’s only because you don’t brush my teeth.
    RIGHT HEAD:
    Oh, stop bitching and let’s go have tea.
    LEFT HEAD:
    Oh, all right. All right. All right. We’ll kill him first and then have tea and biscuits.
    MIDDLE HEAD:
    Yes.
    RIGHT HEAD:
    Oh, not biscuits.
    LEFT HEAD:
    All right. All right, not biscuits, but let’s kill him anyway.
    ALL HEADS:
    Right!
    MIDDLE HEAD:
    He buggered off.
    RIGHT HEAD:
    So he has. He’s scarpered.

  50. Omar Khadr will finally be coming home, the Khadr Klan will rejoice and spawn a few more little terrorist bastards to go off and kill around the globe. That’s only one small bonus for Canadians from this troika offering up their unasked for services to run the ship of state.
    Goddamned bastards, sorry but I’m really worried for the country I’ve lived in for many years, we have to take them down, stop them, by taking to the streets as they do in countries we see on TV in far off lands. This is not the Canada our people forged and fought for.
    Today the stock Market reacted, if tomorrow we see another slide we know doomsday is closer than the MSM and their troika takeover bums think.
    Trouble is we all have to suffer the fools until sanity emerges, hopefully not too late.

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