One of the ironies of climate science is that perhaps the most prominent opponent of satellite measurement of global temperature is James Hansen, head of … wait for it … the Goddard Institute for Space Studies at NASA! As odd as it may seem, while we have updated our technology for measuring atmospheric components like CO2, and have switched from surface measurement to satellites to monitor sea ice, Hansen and his crew at the space agency are fighting a rearguard action to defend surface temperature measurement against the intrusion of space technology.
And leftards STILL fall for the AGW hysteria?? Oh sorry. Of course they do,because it gives them a chance to steal money. What is really amazing in all this,is that the “Nice Air Show Asshole” group still keeps this piece of garbage around. Just what does he have on who???
My Favorite comment from Watt:
Funny thing about that. They (satelites) use the same technology and methods used to measure the 2.7 K background radiation left over from the Big Bang. In fact, the 2.7 K background is used for calibration. [ Read section 4 about calibration here
http://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/AIRS/documentation/amsu_instrument_guide.shtml ]
It’s remarkable how using microwaves to measure the temperature of the Big Bang is worth a couple of Nobel Prizes in Physics (the real kind) but only opprobrium when used to measure the Earth’s temperature
The measurements are completely beside the point, Kate, and you just don’t get it.
Global warming is the most important issue in the history of the planet — ever — and yet, just when the world is close to finally reaching a consensus, you want to mess with that. Why? Why? Why would you do that when, we’re this close?
Why have you been so difficult about this issue for so long? Right? What sort of person would even want to do that?
We have the evidence we need, so why try to add any more? See what I mean? Right? If it’s unnecessary? If we have all the measurements we need? If trying to add more “measurements” just causes the earth all sorts of problems? Right?
Stop it, McMillan.
Right Libby. Is it right to add more? How can it be right? Tell me. Is right your new word for like,like? BTW. Love the sarcasm in your comment. Heh.And maybe YOU should try out for the “Need Another Seven Astronauts” club.
As much as I admire NASA and it’s folks for “boldly going where no man has gone before” in space exploration, I will be the first to acknowledge that like any big government bureaucracy, there are more than a few people more than full of themselves that use their titles as an excuse to spout their pet theories. These same pompous asses are also prone to backing themselves into a corner rather than admit any wrong.
Live long and prosper, eh.
If you ever read the Dune trilogy, you might have noticed the part where humanity had decided, after some great cataclysm, that the “Space Guild” and the “Politics Guild” must never, ever, ever, interfere with each other. Well, it is pretty clear that the “Politics Guild”, in the form of Hansen, has infiltrated the “Space Guild”, NASA. I hope the novel’s prescience ends there.
Ahhh, I see the light now…thanks, Libby! Yes, in Earth’s history, mankind has never been so close to universal consensus on ANY subject before…so, everyone, please don’t spoil that now by letting facts and physics get in the way of heartfelt feelings!
AGW is just a call for universal love and understanding…I understand that now. Hail Gaia, mother-goddess on all mankind!
/sarc (just in case someone gets confused…please consider this added to the end of Libby’s post, too)
Surely, this “Libby Raoul” bit is satire.
I knew there was a reason we don’t have whole FLEETS of satellites measuring temperatures to within a thousandth of a degree, effortlessly, automatically.
The reason’s name is James Hanson. Verrrrry good.
Yeah, sure libby. ‘consensus’, keep saying it if only to convince your pee sized brain that this is the case. Nothing could be further from the truth and now that more and more contrarian evidence is seeping out through many of the non-traditional MSM sites the lid has fell off behind the stove. There is no ‘consensus’, never was, AGW is nothing but a fraud as was the Kyoto protocol and this new incarnation the Green Shaft. Let’s start focusing on cleaning up our environment with rational, realistic targets and leave the thievery to the morons who simply don’t know any better.
Libby; you have to TELL them it’s satire.
Libby’s guages are all stuck on AGM, I think.
Hot off the CBC North press:
Iqaluit, Nunavut: Some symposium participants say north’s opposition to carbon tax is hypocritical
Some participants at the Climate Adaptation Symposium in Iqaluit say the north’s opposition to a carbon tax is hypocritical. They say on one hand northerners are calling on the world to decrease greenhouse gas emissions and slow the warming of the Arctic. But on the other, the three Premiers are rejecting the Liberals’ proposal that could force change. Patricia Bell reports.
Chesterfield Inlet’s Andre Tautoo (sp) is one of several elders sharing their concerns at the symposium about new insects, changes in ice, and animals because of a warming climate. That’s why Dr. Nola Kate Seymour (sp) doesn’t understand why there isn’t more support for a carbon tax in the north. Seymour is with the International Centre for Sustainable Cities in Vancouver. She says if anyone should be supporting a carbon tax, it should be Inuit and other northerners. The carbon tax isn’t perfect, but Seymour says it would force a change in behaviour to reduce greenhouse gas emissions faster than anything else.
“I’m puzzled by your stand on carbon taxes. It makes no sense to me. And as somebody from the south, I feel betrayed.”
Nick Idlout is with the APAC Heritage and Research Centre (sp) in Clyde River. He supports a carbon tax and believes a lot of young northerners would as well. Idlout says the politicians see the short-term negative impacts of a carbon tax, but he says they’re not thinking ahead.
“I don’t want to give my grandchildren a hard time trying to survive in this new world that we’re going to face in the future.”
Idlout says northerners can’t say ‘help us we’re the most affected by climate change’ then turn around and dismiss a carbon tax that could do something about it.
Patricia Bell, CBC News, Iqaluit
I once thought that Hanson was a total lunatic who was one of those “true believer” types.
Given this bit of info, I’m beginning to think he knows full well he’s full of s**t and is fighting an increasingly desperate fight to save what’s left of his reputation. It must be difficult to see your legacy and your entire life’s work amount to less than nothing. When Hanson dies, what he leaves behind is the desecration of NASA, the gutting of the scientific method and the Global Warming Lie which will be taught to future students as a warning about the damage done by the circumventing of academic study by activists.
Nice legacy Hanson. You’ve earned it. Die without peace.
Oh, and Hanson was appointed by the Clinton administration by Al Gore himself if I remember correctly (which occasionally happens.) If so, it’s no surprise that he’s managed to destroy the joint.
I am always lying, I can’t tell the truth, honestly.
Libby
I will give you the benefit of doubt and take your comment as a joke. lol
For conversation sake, I’m sure if you ask most Canadians, they would enjoy and support a transfer of wealth from the west to the east. You would get a large majority of support, perhaps a “consensus” among those who agree. That’s just peachy!
My personal take on this is as follows: I am an individual, I belong to NO larger group that I must or should go along with. Going along with the group because it is the thing to do is asinine, and potentially evil.
Not only do I not care(is that a double negative?) what the rest of the world is doing, I don’t care what the rest of the country is doing, nor do I care what others are doing in my province or my city for that matter. Actually I don’t even care what others are doing in my hood or next door for that matter.
What I do care about, is what you or any of the aforementioned groups do that has a direct bearing on my family and I. I will do what is best for ME, if what is best for ME is also good for YOU then fine, we can work together, other than that F**K ALL OF YOU!
Good God!
Why don’t you just thank Libby for the good little bit of IRONY and Satire….
As for Hanson etal … NASA is a bureaucracy not a research organization.
Yes they are responsible for research projects that are put under their control …. but the organization itself is nothing but a civil service bureaucracy.
Expecting it to behave differently is just foolish.
Yup, the O-ring company has fallen far.
Thing is, it can do fantastic stuff, but as a federal bureaucratic organization, it becomes politiciesd, just like the EPA.
RW,
“Thing is, it can do fantastic stuff, but as a federal bureaucratic organization, it becomes politiciesd, just like the EPA.”
You mean fantastic stuff like space station “Freedom”. Oops! I forgot. It’s now the International Space Station. Going nowhere by noone.
NASA has been bureaucratically corrupted by political correctness for a long time.
Isn’t Libby Raoul the satirist that Vitruvius alerted us to a while back? He’s supposed to be a good satirist which you wouldn’t know from this post.
Libby,
Go ride your Scooter.
Spare us, an enviro-moonbat in Britain reaching deep into his brain allotment comes up with this stunt to make his point:
Dan Glass, of the climate change pressure group Plane Stupid, today tried to superglue himself to the Prime Minister at a Downing Street reception.
The Onion couldn’t make tis stuff up as well.
Correct, Me No Dhimmi, I first mentioned Mr. Raoul here:
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/006613.html#c178457
Damn penny. Too bad he failed. Then they could have flushed two pieces of crap down the sewer at once! heh. And they are called “plane stupid”? Okay. Can they inform me of just what they mean by that name? Neither have dick all,except for the stupid,to do with AGW.
Texas Canuck, NASA hasn’t “boldly (gone) where no man has gone before” since Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins returned from the moon 39 years ago. Five more missions to the moon, no new ground; 27 years of running around in circles in low earth orbit. Now they are talking about going back to the moon (according to NASA administrator Mike Griffin: “Apollo on steroids”), except this time it will take longer than the original Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs put together, and will leave NASA with no further capabilities than they had in 1972. This is not your grandpa’s NASA.