Your predictions here:
How many seats is Stelmach going to lose?
So…. how long until the Alberta Liberals move forward on that name change thing?
BUT! Don’t count those chickens just yet… “It’s not over yet….”
Your predictions here:
How many seats is Stelmach going to lose?
So…. how long until the Alberta Liberals move forward on that name change thing?
BUT! Don’t count those chickens just yet… “It’s not over yet….”
Say giidby to at least a dozen seats Ediie…while you were so busy sucking the tailpipes of Ottawa Liberals in Beemers, you forgot that most of your province work for a living and are not to happy with wannabe Liberals who devise new ways to tax and spend their hard won productivity.
Hapless Eddie will have a near minority government and will be replaced by Ted Morton before the year is out.
23 seats. With the WRA holding the balance of power and Ed delivering his resignation speech from a plane en route to the Dominican.
23 seats. With the WRA holding the balance of power and Ed delivering his resignation speech from a plane en route to the Dominican.
or
19 seats and three pcs cross over to the WRA (ted morton amoung them?) to give the WRA the balance of power.
12net
a couple of libs in calgree. a few new pcs in yadmonton , a couple of WRA in rural and maybe two in calgree.
However many it takes to serve notice on Fast Eddie that governments are supposed to be there to -enforce- contracts, no break ’em.
But please don’t give the Liberals a majority. That would be like shooting your own foot off to remove a leech.
He only needs to lose ONE …. His own!
I’m living here in Ted Mortons riding, and hope Mackenzie Redux is correct.
Problem is all my friends are vasalating between the WRA or not voting at all…
I hope the predictions for the WRA are true.
Ed will still have a majority tomorrow, but a reduced one.
I hope the days of voting for a conservative just because are past and voters will pay attention to the candidate. If it can happen in AB maybe it can happen with liberal voters in Toronto.
On a quick trip to Lloydminster this past weekend, Stelmach and Snelgrove appeared to be the only election signs east of Edmonton.
I don’t see a big change in the seat count.
The PC party will lose 10 seats in total.
Did I just hear on CFRA that HArper is sueing the libs for libel?? Great move if so!
Prediction: Tories win, Liberals whine, someone on the CBC calls Albertans stupid. During his concession speech some loser says “you’ve sent the PCs a message” and claims a moral victory.
The WRA has been almost invisible this election, blowing a real opportunity to make a breakthrough. My local candidate doesn’t even have a website! Haven’t seen any evidence of campaigning either.
Argh, what a bunch of hapless leaders in Alberta today…
Northern Lights said:
“Problem is all my friends are vasalating between the WRA or not voting at all”
It is exactly that vote split and PC voter poll absence that will put a number of new liberals and a few dips in former Tory seats..possibly reducing the PCs to a near minority government.
The expression, “Liberal, Tory, same old story,” is most true in Alberta. Save for King Ralph’s first term (Ralph was a once Liberal himself) the PCs have governed (and spent) like drunken Liberals. In the last leadership race another liberal in conservative clothing, Jim Dinning, almost won the leadership. Not selecting Ted Morton as leader was the biggest mistake Alberta PCs ever made.
I predict the PCs will win either a weak majority or a strong minority. The best outcome would be for a minority with the WRA holding the balance of power so they could steer the government in the “right” direction.
I voted WRA in my riding, but it will most certainly go PC. The current MLA is the Deputy Premier and the riding is very affluent. I just hope enough ridings elsewhere in the Province give the WRA a chance.
I predict that there will be a pair of untoned buttocks on each seat in the Legislature for the next session. The owners of said buttocks shall govern in a manner not inconsistent with their own interests or those of the state dependent public. Who dares to defy my wisdom?
Northern Alberta will return to solid PC support since Stelmach is seen to have stood up to the Alberta Oilgarchy based out of Calgary.
The Libs and NDP both say Stelmach did not go far enough with his royalty review.
WRA represents the laissez-faire stance southern Alberta was used to when Ralphie willingly became a do-nothing premier during his last days.
WRA will siphon seats and hand seats to Liberals, who in the next session will agitate for even more royalties. Therefore, the next legislature will be even less in the pocket of Big Oil than the previous one.
That will make Calgarians even angrier, since at some point they would have to admit they were the authors of their own misfortune.
Meanwhile, Stelmach’s majority government (five less seats) will deliver on the promise of building much-needed infrastructure (roads, schools and hospitals) for an increasing population.
Since the population of Alberta is increasing in a large part to oil exploration and development, Stelmach offers the only balanced approach.
Of course, had Calgary’s Big Oiligarchs offered to build roads, schools and hospitals, then the argument that the private sector should look after those needs would have been valid.
The WRA failed to articulate how those much-needed projects, neglected while Ralphie looked the other way as the benefit of the oil sands flowed to Calgary’s head offices, would be built.
If they had provided a credible answer to that question, they would have my vote.
Meanwhile, if you figure Calgarians are angry now, just imagine how distracted they will be when the makeup of the new legislature will give them even less influence.
Although I normally vote for the party that promises to spend the least amount of my money, in this case the WRA seems to be attractive to the most selfish.
I know how I’ll be voting, but that’s a secret, which is my lead in to: totally OT but, yes, RW, it looks as though Stephen Harper has just announced a libel suit against Steffi and the Libs. Now there’s no way out, show the evidence at discovery or shut up, back off and pay up!
A gem:
http://www.ctv.ca/generic/WebSpecials/pdf/document2008-03-02-183001.pdf
You people really should have learned from the PC leadership race not to underestimate Ed Stelmach.
He will increase his majority by 4.
I’m in Edmonton-Strathcona, where the result is a foregone conclusion. The dippers are running a member of their royal family (a lawyer, of course) and have promised the students $1000+ in beer money, none of which they will ever see, poor suckers. Unfortunately, the WRA is not running a candidate here. I suppose they figured it was a waste of resources. So I’ll vote Tory, for what it’s worth.
I’m in Edmonton-McClung. I think the PC candidate, David Xiao has a tough battle against the Liberal incumbent Mo Elsahly. The riding could be considered a good one to watch to guage which way the wind blows during tonight’s results broadcasts.
I gravitate towards the fledgling WRA party and what I would like to see the most is the WRA receiving more overall votes than any other left of centre party combined.
Wl M Redux says,
** most of your province work for a living and are not to happy with wannabe Liberals who devise new ways to tax and spend their hard won productivity.
Hapless Eddie will have a near minority government and will be replaced by Ted Morton before the year is out.**
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Yet I wonder if Albertans put a lot of stock in keeping it simple and honest.
Ed is used to new challenges popping up suddenly. Most successful farmers are.
If Albertans want *steadfast and honest* then , not so flashy ED will do well in the poles. = TG
vote for a winner, or waste it
the herd mentality…………..
I figure Stelmach will hold onto a majority government with a loss of only about 5 seats. Those seats will be picked up by the Liberals and the WRA. The WRA will hold onto the Hindman seat and, I think, pick up at least one more. The NDP are relevant only in a couple of Edmonton ridings and that won’t change after today. Stelmach will hold onto central and northern Alberta rural ridings and the Edmonton ridings but will struggle in Calgary because of the royalty changes and his government’s big fights with Bronconnier. They made up but it was too late to counter the damage done.
RW at March 3, 11:17 AM
Thank you for your PDF link to the papers served.
A gem:. . . . A gem indeed. Priceles!
http://www.ctv.ca/generic/WebSpecials/pdf/document2008-03-02-183001.pdf
Dion ,Goodale & gang are in deep guano. = TG
A Liberal victory in Alberta would be like watching the final minutes of Braveheart. They’d quickly move to make Alberta the Kyoto posterchild with pretty much the same result as what happened to William Wallace. Happy entrails to you…
It would, on the other hand, be a HUGE initial benefit to Saskatchewan.
I guess I’ll decide when I get to the polling station. It will either be Liberal or WRA. Why Liberal? They were the only ones who had commented on the HRC tribunals. As far as ideology is concerned theres very little difference between the Liberals and the PC (Politically Correct) party. Note: If I do vote Liberal, I’ll probably never be able to forgive myself.
For the first time in my life I am struggling with who to vote FOR. To date, I continue to find reasons who to vote AGAINST. My friends,family and co-workers are in the same predicament.
Therefore:
Eddie loses all seats. The entire province, in effect, goes for “None of the above”.
I can NOT in good conscience vote for a defacto liberal Premier. At least the Alberta Liberal party took a stand against the HRC. I’m still waiting for Stelmach to take a Conservative position on something. Anything…
He only needs to lose ONE [seat] …. His own!
Posted by: OMMAG at March 3, 2008 9:26 AM
It didn’t affect John Tory in Ontario, OMMAG, (unfortunately).
Gawd… good to know others are in the same dilemma. I’m going to vote for the ‘conservative independent’, that is the guy that was chosen by my PC riding association but Stelmach decided to ignore and paracute an Ontario resident into as the PC candidate (Calgary-Montrose). I won’t vote Liberal, the dipper candidate doesn’t live in the riding and I have serious doubts about the WRA candidate. His materials were atrociously written (hint to those candidates whose first language is not English… GET A PROOF READER!!!), he only details his experience in the pizzeria biz, not his stand on anything political, and in his materials he labeled the picture of him and his wife as “Said Abdulbaki and wife”. Hmmmmmm…. either she doesn’t have a name or more likely he’s got that ‘tude towards woman that is prevalent in his culture. Sigh…. so I have no choice but the ‘conservative independent’ as not voting is NEVER an option. I am so disappointed in the crappy choices!
My prediction.
Once Southern Alberta casts its protest vote, it will be left with LIberal representatives.
The Liberals have gone on record as saying Stelmach’s royalty review did not go far enough.
So, they’ll have representatives which are even further away from the Calgary Oiligarchy that in the last Legislature session.
Just remember, Calgary. You’re going to bring it onto yourself with your bitterness.
We cannot afford another do-nothing premier like Ralphie in his final days.
Cheer up Albertans. Vote for Ed now and look forward to a provincial leadership convention when you can switch to that slick cosmopolitan leader you really really want. = TG
Knight of Good Mr. Iron Man.
“I can NOT in good conscience vote for a defacto liberal Premier. ”
The more appropriate question is can you tolerate a real liberal? If you don’t vote for the least evil you may end up with the most evil – but you get to feel good about it as your economy goes down the crapper…
I ended up voting for Tory here in Ontario even though I’d rather smack him than talk to him. He’s an ass, but he’s less of an ass than McShifty. Lots of people felt otherwise. McShifty gets to abuse us for 4 more years.
Moral purity has always been the bane of conservatives. Plug your nose and vote for the party which will do the least damage.
For the first time in my life I voted Liberal. Heaven help me! Stelmach and his cronies are such asses I had to. Read subsistence hunting etc.
“If you don’t vote for the least evil you may end up with the most evil”
My thoughts exactly, while I am not a fan of the PCs there is no real alternative in my riding (there is a Wildrose Alliance candidate, just not one I feel is credible or has run a good race).
While far from ideal, supporting the PCs is the best alternative.
loboy2k
“For the first time in my life I voted Liberal.”
The same sort of protest voting elected Bob Rae in Ontario. The worste disaster in confederation since Trudeau.
Hopefully you won’t have to wear the consequences of that vote like Ontario did (and is today.)
It’s moral posturing. You vote against a good party because they’re not a perfect party and risk electing a bad party – all to make yourself feel better. That thinking is what liberals pray for.
loboy2K:
My sympathies go out to you.
Remember your act when the Liberals stand up in the legislature and say ‘Stelmach is not taking enough royalties from the oil companies.’
That’s just what you cast your vote for.
Annie, WRA’s Said A. is a concern not only because of that… I read in the Sun’s profile that his political hero is PET! Yikes!
I voted for higher royalties, carbon taxes, higher taxes, PST down the road, chicken in every pot, multi-culti ghettos, what have you. we’ll do this for you or that for you parties. What a bunch of dweebs on this slate from any party! Might just as well as stay home, drink beer and eat popcorn. I’ll send along my paycheck later. @$!?&%!!!!!
To those wanting change, how stupid can you be, here we are in the richest province in Canada, no debt, try 200 billion in Ontario or 140 billion in Quebec, we have 0 unemployment no end of jobs if your not liberal and want to work, little interference from stinking unions, praries and mountains to please immigrants from Sask and B.C. and beautiful winters comparable to anywhere east of here, and you want change, boo hoo. 60 years ago ALberta and Sask both had around a million population, now Albert’s 3.4 million and Sask is around 980,000, yes socialism in Sask and B.C. and Manitoba has been extremely successful! FOR ALBERTA. Think long and hard before you vote for shark face Taft or the only person to make Taft look handsome, Dave Taylor. Socialism does not work especially here in Alberta. If you want change, have a cold bath.
bartinsky,
Well said. I wish Ontario had Alberta’s voters. I’ve had many extended family members try to entice me to move out west (my family is from Calgary, Medicine Hat and the interior of BC.) If not for my immediate family (wife’s side included,) that would be a possibility.
A nice place in Canmore… Mountains are good.
The only way to shut these liberal leftovers up is to sue them every time they open their mouth with trumped up accusations. Next in line would be the MSM.
Just voted. Sorry to ted morton, but eddy and his crew p#ssed me off…I would have voted for ted under diffrent circumstance.
Thanks for the splash of cold water, bartinsky. I guess I’ll go and vote for the least worst.
not as many as deserves too.
Smart move, calling an election before the WRP has all of their ducks in a row.
Albertans ready for change? From what – successful to ???
Do you change your tires for the sake of change, or because you’re tired of them (no pun intended) even if they’re working fine? If you do, then you’re an idiot, and probably already vote Liberal, or, God forbid, NDP.
Unfortunately Fred Stelmach has never connected with the voters. Most of us barely know who Ted Strelmach is, or what Ned Stelwich stands for.
He still has that deer in the headlights look to him, and I can’t help but think “Peter Principle” whenever I see him. Good thing he’s got Conservative Alberta to run in, and no real opposition. I hope he get’s it together after the election, which I predict the conservatives will win by a considerable majority – perhaps even greater than last time.
Four.
I voted Wildrose.
I read in the G & M, someone called every seat but one last time (which had a three vote margin) and is predicting an -increase- in seats this time.