A bill to strip the WCB of its barley marketing status will be introduced Monday.
DrD in the comments – “I chose “wit”, because, as it is often said: “A bun is the lowest form of wheat.”. However, I stress that you should not allow this to influence your vote. Decide carefully.
Update: According to 650 CKOM, there was a bit of jostling at the legislature among farmers in attendance. About 80% of those there were lending support to ending the monopoly.
Update 2: Ritz’s statement is up at Agriville
BJ, I have been to canlii.com but they don’t have all the older stuff in there.
Trying to go thru the present court system doesn’t cut it becasue they have these previous erroneous judgements to fall back on.
Cartesian logic.
That’s why all federal legislation needs to be sent thru the Justice dept and be brought up to date with repsect to the Charter of Rights.
New game called CWB Snooker.
Scenario 1)
The CWB is part of the federal govt.
Then all govt depts and legislation has to be changed to fall within the Charter.
No maybes, ifs, or buts.
A govt cannot pass legislation and then ignore it because it doesn’t like it.
Morally bankrupt crooked Liberals do it without question, but the CPC people should not.
Farmers get freedom to market both wheat and barley.
Scenario 2)
The CWB is not a govt agency.
(This is Sask Ritters latest joke)
Being a private co-op means that there has to method for them to get members to vote on their new coop.
In Quebec, co-ops had to have over 60% to form.
Anybody still think that the CWB would get a 60% approval to reconstitute itself as a standalone co-op?
Farmers vote 51%, if they are lucky, to form new CWB coop. Defeated.
Farmers get freedom of choice to sell their own grain.
CWB Snookered. The CWB is deadmeat.
Thanks for tip on Canlii, I got the first one I tried but don’t have time to read it yet.
The first thing that must be looked at with a province’s commodities, resources, energy and etc., is who has the final jurisdiction. CWB is a federal policy over only B.C., Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Is it a federal only money bill? Is it international and effects international trade? Is it valid under the Constitution and an individuals livelihood ability in a province. There are jurisdiction cases from tele-communications to power.
In Australia the farmers board may have been operating outside the law. Then can you be forced into guilt by association once there is known wrongful conduct? Should you participate? Is an Act valid that may force you into participating in wrongful coduct once known? Can a court under the Constitution force you to participate? These are all interesting questions which came to light in Australia.
BJ, the purpose of a Charter of Rights is to protect individuals from harsh and arbitrary actions of a govt, including discrimination.
The Charter is designed to apply specifically to the relationship between govts and individuals.
Not private relationships or business relationships.
Charter of Rights:
Section 7)
“Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.”
The CWB/State has the legal burden of proving that its legislation or actions are justified.
They can’t just say, well its in the Trade and Commerce legislation so we can do this to the farmers.
They have to prove that there is a ‘pressing and substantial reason’ for them to confiscate a farmers grain and sell it for them.
Or prove the need to micromanage western Canada’s grain industry.
Heh, the feds don’t even control the production of uberdangerous uranium anymore and they are going to claim that control of wheat and barley is a ‘pressing and substantial’ reason to take our grain!
That’s a good one.
According to Sec 32, the Charter applies to federal, provincial, and territorial legislatures and govts. Thus, the Charter protects individuals from violations of their human rights and fundamental freedoms by govt.
“Liberty
1) Freedom from oppression, tyranny, or harsh domination.
2) Freedom from comfinement or slavery.
3) Freedom of thought or action, or exemption from forms of compulsion or indignity , regarded as a human right. ” – Funk and Wagmnalls
Now the evidence.
The CWB has ‘harsh domination’ over Designated Area farmers.
The CWB has a policy of confinement on the ability of DA farmers to make a living as they see fit, and in doing so, prevents their right to security.
The CWB uses unjust legislation to prevent freedom of thought and actions in regards to a farmer selling his own grain.
The CWB compells DA farmers only to sell their grain to the CWB against their wishes.
These are unreasonable limitations on DA farmers which are totally unjustified in a free and democratic country.
The Canadian govt has:
– signed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in 1948.
– passed the Canadian Bill of Rights in 1960
– passed the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in 1982.
Now its about bloody time that the big talker Liberals and NDP in Ottawa started acting like a mature country and started following their own damn legislation.
It really is not smart to do otherwise.
This is not uranium.
It is not mary jane.
It is not cocaine.
It is not Resin.
Selling grain is probably the second oldest profession in the world and anybody can do it.
As with all things, some are better than others at it.
FREEDOM ROCKS.
Hey Manny, did you enjoy your subsidized breakfest and your subsidized lunch today?
Canadians pay the lowest food prices in the western world, less than 10% of total.
Ever wonder why, big boy?
Freeloading plow jockeys certainly never subsidized my lunch. Let me guess, you’re going to trot out that tired old canard about a cheap food policy. Well, newsflash, food ain’t cheap and there ain’t no cheap food policy. Get a real job, rocky.
Lowest food prices in the western world at your corner store, Manny.
You didn’t even know that did you!
The truth hurts, eh big boy.
Seven yrs of $3/bu wheat and only 5 months of
$10/bu wheat and Manny is crying already.
I invite the CWB to collectively hold their breath until they pass out and this all passes.
… really. and Free the western farmers.
Seven yrs of $3/bu wheat and only 5 months of
$10/bu wheat and Manny is crying already.
I’m talking about the thirty plus years you’ve been freeloading, not the price of wheat, a commodity of which I consume almost nothing. But connect the dots. What legislation constitutes this cheap food policy? Does somebody have a gun to your head, forcing you to farm?
So Manny where are you moving to and getting away from high priced food?
Mexico? Honduras? Hey how about Venezuela?
I know, Cuba! Perfect for you.
You do like dilapidated 1949 chevys, don’t you?
Cheaper than dirt to run and fix.
Just like the food.
Did you know that when the USSR broke up and couldn’t afford to subsidize Cuba oil imports anymore, Castro had the farmers revert to using 40,000 oxen working in the fields?
Manny the corner store – the cheapest food prices in the western world.
Do you think that happens by accident?
Central planning, my boy.
You got some facts and figures to go with that blather?
Cheap food? Back it up.
Central planning? Back it up.
I’m quite willing to let the free market determine food prices. A free market that would see freeloading hypocrites like yourself who think the world owes them a living make it under their own steam.
Here are some facts and figures for you. You call that cheap food?
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=the+cost+of+healthy+eating+in+saskatchewan&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryCA
As I understand it, the CWB has been accused repeatedly of dumping wheat and durum and incurred penalties and tariffs for these acts. This is the complaint of the farmers that the CWB has not been getting the best price for the farmers’ grain. This may be a known violation of international relations and treaties.
Part III
Equalization And Regional Disparities
36(1)(a)promoting equal opportunities for the well-being of Canadians;
(b)furthering economic development to reduce diparity in opportunities;
Manny I going to write this as slowly as I can for you to comprehend.
Canada, the land of ice and snow, has a growing season in most areas of 100 to 130 days.
Canada spends 10% of its household budget on food.
Most OECD nations and most European countries have much better climates and spend up to 20% on food.
Total coincidence, eh?
Hey, its been fun.