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File a counter complaint against the individuals on the HRC panel for violation of your rights Ezra.
Sadly, unless Mr. Levant has legal recourse to sue this
crazed imam for monetary damages after this case is
thrown out by this kangaroo court, as it has to be,
we are all going to have to look in a mirror and realize that we
are all complicit in allowing Canada
to adopt sharia law as the law of the land.
Conspicuous by their absence from this post are the usual leftard trolls. Their absence is explained by the fact that the theme of this post lures the leftards toward the three questions they refuse to answer.
1) Why it is that, when any left wing group gains power they first seek to stifle and ultimately eliminate freedom of speech? Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Albania. Pick any “progressive” country where the left has taken over and all forms of the media are censored.
2) Name one country where socialism raised the condition of its people to an acceptable level?
3) Why is it that the vast majority of left wingers are anti-Israel, anti-Semitic or self loathing Jews?
Just because Ezra is 100% right does not mean that he will win unless we support him.
Go Ezra or go freedom. Pick one. Pick one now.
Make that “SaskatchewAn”: sorry, Kate!!
WOW … I had been wondering if he’d insist on video-recording the inquisition.
Trust me — I know these types: THEY. ARE. SCARED. VERY. SCARED.
I gave Ezra $1000 shortly after the imam handed in his hand-scratched complaint to the Kargaroo Court. Cheap at twice the price!
With Ezra and now Mark Steyn the HRC is TOAST. Get a piece of paper and a fridge magnet, and put this up: The HRC is TOAST.
Video: Rex Murphy on The Commission, Ezra Levant, Macleans and Mark Steyn.
I agree with Rex. He said it all and more. Why is he not hauled in too ? CBC immunity ?
Bart @ 7:05 am said . . .
We don*t See or hear a word from the state owned CBC, CTV, etc.
Why are they all so quiet? … Where Do they Stand?
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Exactly. . . Remember? . .
Tranio @ 11:36 said . .
I can’t find any actual newspaper article as such but the content is to be read and understood by all of us.
ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ…. .
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CBC, CTV, MSM will headline a guilty verdict if they can, but not a peep beforehand, lest they awaken the sleeping sheeple of Canada to this CRIME IN PROGRESS. = TG
Sorry, link on Rex
http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/video/rex_murphy/human_rights_gone_awry.html
My opinion of Ezra has increased immenseley after reading his opening statement.
It is so true.
But its absolutely bizarre how such anti-democratic crap like these quasi-judicial bodies, staffed by appointed self-important pompous asses, became such a large part of this freedom loving country.
Sick’em Ezra!
The whole case is absurd. The HRC, presumably, is deciding whether Ezra’s printing of motunes will cause hate and violence against Muslims. None of which has happened.
However, it can easily be proven that the caricatures of Mohammad are historically accurate. He was a bloodthirsty, mass-murdering brigand.
The teaching of much of the Quran, Hadith and Sira is unarguably a cause of hate and violence against non-Muslims – and most importantly, unlike the claim against Ezra, there’s a mountain of evidence to prove that it has already caused massive amounts of violence, rape, slavery and genocide over a 1400 year period.
As I said, the whole case is upside down and a travesty of justice.
Thanks for posting the motunes again Kate.
No media coverage? The HRCs are doing the MSM’s dirty work–promoting their socialist, lefty agenda. They don’t want Canadians to know anything about this. Typical.
The “Human Rights Inquisition” — yea, that’s the ticket!
Oh — God Ezra Go !
I meant, Go Ezra Go ! – typo
We need more motunes.
we won’t be able to completely deal with this till we can drag it out into the sunlight
Finally got to read Ezra’s powerful opening remarks before the Star Chamber. HUGE. Historic. A great Canadian!
Seconding irwin daisy’s remark: kudos to Kate for linking to those lamo cartoons.
I especially appreciate his dual Saudi reference: to the Saudi-trained jew-hating (if you’ll excuse the redundancy) imam who hand-scratched the complaint AND that the HRC is effectively operating a sharia court. Also his correct reference to the intitial mission: settling low-level squabbles over employment and housing that may contain a racialist aspect.
And think about it: this egregious mission creep actually proves that there just isn’t enough of those low level squabbles to keep the HRC busy. God protect us from bureaucrats worried about redundancy!
Mind-boggling that the left, which excoriates even the merest mention of Christianity in the public square, actually supports legally harrassing its citizens for Islamic blasphemy.
Just in case some people didn’t know this: the initial cartoons were not in fact published as gratuitous insult. It was a contest triggered when an author complained about not being able to find anyone to illustrate his book.
Thank goodness for Ezra Levant!
“Is there as fund set for Ezra? If so, where can I sent it?” (Rednik, 1:17 AM)
Anybody know? I cannot see anything at the link to his website.
National Newswatch has Ezra’s tapes posted Via Big City Lib strikes back
Canada should be A S H A M E D that this form of inquisition exists as part of it’s government!
Hang you head low Canada!
It would be quite fitting to call those who make up the cabal at HRC’s ‘Commissars’.
On the third day, will He rise again?
Give it a rest, people.
I hope Ezra does win. He may have to go to a real court to get any satisfaction but it would be about time.
I guess here is my queston. Ezra’s defiance is of course exhilarating, but it is going to take more than words, high and true, to save our children from the horror these apalling tribunals have been heralding. Does anybody know, or can anybody here source the actual legislated standing of the Federal and Provincial HRC’s? What is the Act or Act(s) that deliniate the scope of their powers? It would be nice to get it out there, exactly where their relative strengths and vulnerabilities lie.
Ezra was campaigning to be a conservative MP from Calgary a few years ago. He stepped aside to allow one Steven Harper to have the nomination. Let’s hope he tries again in the coming election, in a different riding, and wins.
I think his first private members bill would be, Abolish the HRC. With a majority PMSH government, it would pass. Then of course it would sit in the senate.
A bunch of senators and friends are going to Cuba to study health care. Didn’t they see Moores film.
And, will they report on the guy who went there for surgery and died of a botched procedure.
A good post at ibloga.blogspot.com on the various tiers of censorship:
“The third tier of censorship is social censorship, the goal of indoctrinational censorship is to create and enforce the social consensus of what the acceptable view is.
When indoctrinational censorship is successful, social censorship crystallizes by making it impossible to say certain things out loud.
After the indoctrimeme that Islam is a religion of peace and terrorism is only practiced by a small number of extremists has reached critical mass, expressing the view that Islam itself is the cause of terrorism becomes a view that most people have coded and modeled as “false”, “ignorant”, “objectionable” and so on and so forth.
The popular entertainment subset of the indoctrinational phase teaches this modeling and coding by in our example
1. Identifying people who hold a “Wrong’ view and aligning them with a negative stereotype, e.g. Rednecks, Flag Waving Patriots, Ignorant
2. Teaching people to model ‘Right” behavior by rejecting their views as bigoted and ignorant using a fuzzy rote response that has no real meaning
Wrong Thinker: “I think the roots of terrorism may be inside Islam.”
Right Thinker: “It’s wrong to hate billions of people for what only a few extremists did.”
teddy, is that you?
I haven’t had a chance to read the comments yet, so this site may have been posted already, but if you would like to sign a Petition to support Mark Steyn against the HRC, go to http://www.socon.ca
While Ezra has rubbed my fur the wrong way on some things in the past, in this he has my full endorsement. Go Ezra; we’re all behind you whether or not we even want to be, for as you go with these commisars so will go the rest of us.
Related from gatesofvienna.blogspot.com:
“The celebration of oxymora is central to the politico-linguistic discipline commonly known as “political correctness”.
To disable rational opposition to the prevailing orthodoxy, the first step is to take control of the language, forbidding certain words, promoting others, and changing the meanings of words within the permissible vocabulary to align with an all-pervading political ideology.
The second step is to erode the logical framework of thought itself, eating away at the deep structure of language until the underlying mental processes are deranged, leaving the mind vulnerable to re-programming.
Under the new PC template, time-hallowed distinctions — between good and evil, moral and immoral, true and false — are discarded. The only remaining distinction allowed is between what is and is not politically acceptable. PC has but a single commandment: “Thou shalt have no other words before mine.”
If all this sounds vaguely Orwellian, it’s because George Orwell’s writings drew on his experience with communism, and modern politically correct orthodoxy derives from Marx, the Frankfurt School, and the ideology of the revolutionary Left.
The preparatory task in the Marxist/Frankfurt schema was to make the “long march through the institutions”, destroying the cultural fabric of Western Civilization, leaving it ready for re-branding with what is now known as political correctness.
Since the PC system sees the whole of reality through the lenses of politics, the only rules are political ones. It considers such notions as objective truth and moral value to be meaningless as well as oppressive, and seeks to replace them with political values. The new rules, of course, since they are subject to the whims of those who wield power, are fungible.”
NNW has a link to the Utube video of Ezra at the meeting. One woman listening to him. Watch her body language. Big City Lib runs both clips, and of course the comments are typical anti free speech. Those comments should be published far and wide, to let people know what will happen if the libs ever get back in power.
Ezra is great, much better to hear him give them hell than just read what he says.
forbidding certain words, promoting others, and changing the meanings of words
Ya mean like banning … niggardly?
Wes, the Human Rights Act is
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/H-6/bo-ga:l_I::bo-ga:l_II?page=1
It was set up in 1976. You can find it, if the above link doesn’t work, by googling Canadian Human Rights Act.
You will see that it was originally set up to deal with perceived or actual discrimination in employment and housing. Obviously there weren’t enough cases to keep the bureaucrats busy and it rapidly transformed into an unaccountable Inquisitory Body of Censorship.
Pay particular attention to section 13
13. (1) It is a discriminatory practice for a person or a group of persons acting in concert to communicate telephonically or to cause to be so communicated, repeatedly, in whole or in part by means of the facilities of a telecommunication undertaking within the legislative authority of Parliament, any matter that is likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by reason of the fact that that person or those persons are identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination. ”
Notice the key terms: ‘Likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt….”
Not ACTUALLY exposes. ‘Likely’ to expose. The focus moves from actual reality based on hard data and empirical evidence, to subjective internal speculation about ‘what might happen’ if someone sees that picture of X’.
Not what DID happen. What ‘might happen’, and this speculation is entirely in the mind of the complainant…who takes his ‘case’ to the HRC, and the two of them, complainant and HRC, together decide that yes indeed, something ‘might happen in the future’…
And what is it that ‘might happen’? That someone might feel ‘hate’ or ‘contempt’ towards that person.
I wonder if anyone on this planet can prove with any reasonable certainty that seeing a picture or reading a paragraph about X directly leads to a feeling of ‘hate’ or ‘contempt’ towards X – without also including a whole nest of previously embedded opinions and beliefs about that particular X.
There is no one that can make such a direct connection between that picture/article, and the feeling. No-one.
Yet, our HRC assert that they can.
Furthermore, they assert that they can make such a direct connection not ‘now’, but can make the connection BEFORE IT HAPPENS. That is, our HRC claims that they can define the future. They claim that they KNOW that a particular result WILL OCCUR before it even happens.
And they make their decisions based on this self-assumed magical capacity to both make direct connections between two unrelated events, and furthermore, to make connections that don’t even exist.
No Stalinist commission could do better within such a set up – than our very own version, the HRC.
This is more serious than Ezra’s situation:
“Event: Via a campaign undertaken by Hesham Islam, the senior advisor for International Affairs to Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England, on Thursday, January 3, 2008 Mr. Coughlin was told by his employers that his contract would not be renewed due to the fact his message, and therefore he himself, had become too “politically hot.” In a meeting between Mr. Coughlin and a member of Mr. England’s staff, at which Hesham Islam unexpectedly attended, Mr. Islam asked Mr. Coughlin to “soften his message” regarding Islamic Doctrine. Mr. Coughlin refused. Islam was heard referring to Coughlin as a “Christian zealot with a poison pen.” Despite the fact that no one in his chain of command has disputed the veracity, accuracy, and balance for his thesis, lectures, or briefings, Coughlin’s employment is being terminated for speaking the truth to the Department of Defense.
Analysis: This event on its own reveals that a senior U.S. advisor is being removed from his direct and critical role in the current war in which we are engaged solely because his message was defined as “extreme” by an advisor who caters to Islamist organizations in the U.S., not because it was factually incorrect. This alone seems significantly problematic given the current war in which we are engaged. Additionally, some of the details suggest Mr. Coughlin’s civil rights, to include his First and Forth Amendment rights, as well as federal law, may have been violated, which suggests an inquiry is required. The effort to silence Mr. Coughlin came from a senior advisor to a senior U.S. official under official cover – a violation of law. Most disturbing is that Mr. Islam is associated with groups and organizations which have been designated as Muslim Brotherhood organizations within the United States. If this is in fact true, the implications are devastating.
Implications: If it is determined that Mr. Islam (whose clearances to be handling such high level issues are unsubstantiated) was acting directly or indirectly on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood or any other non-state sponsor or nation, it would indicate a direct effort to thwart the U.S. effort in fighting the war in which we are engaged by an outside entity. This is, therefore, a penetration of our government at the most senior levels. In this case we are obligated to undertake actions to determine, who is Mr. Islam, why was he hired, what are his true intentions, and are there others in our government at this level who have penetrated other U.S. government agencies.
Actions: It is recommended that the following actions be taken immediately:
1) It is imperative that an investigation be open to determine the facts of this matter. If the investigation determines the facts of the matter to be true, provide the extent of the penetration within DoD, an assessment of the damage, potential violations of federal law, and recommended changes to Department policy and procedures to prevent a recurrence.
2) Conduct closed Congressional Hearings to provide oversight of Federal Departments and Agencies, specifically DoD, DNI, FBI, CIA and DHS to determine if there has been (1) a significant penetration of US Government Departments and/or Agencies by non-state actors hostile to the United States, and (2) the ability and structure of the U.S. counterintelligence efforts to identify and prevent penetration by subversive movements such as the Muslim Brotherhood.”
jihadwatch.org
I think Ezra is a real Canadian hero. It is really unfortunate that Canada has regressed to such a sorry state that he must act as he has.
Unfortunately, I think the HRC will ignore his statement. Thye will proceed as if he said nothing, which means he will be fined and ordered to pay the aggrieved imman lots of dollars (after all, he WAS offended).
Ezra should take this to an actual court, and he will need our financial support. I, for one, am more than willing to help finance his legal proceedings. The HRC is a terrorist organization, orchestrated to promote fear in the average Canadian and to muzzle the masses.
ET: Thanks, you do a great job on this.
One quibble: By focusing on the distinction between what HAS caused contempt or what MAY theoretically cause contempt you risk a diversion from the essential issue which is: contempt actual or potential is not a legitimate human rights issue. This is the thing we have to keep focusing on: feeling hatred even expressing it should be protected within the purview of freedom of speech. There is no legitimate right to not be offended. We need to limit speech only in cases of direct incitement to violence which are very rare — and incitement must be very tightly and restrictively defined.
And needless to say we shouldn’t criminalize nutty historical notions either (Holocaust denial laws are a travesty).
It’s extremely ironical — forget the guy’s name — but we had a dude here in Canada who particpated in radio broadcasts in Rwanda directly inciting his tribe to commit mass murder. Can’t recall the circumstances (deportation hearing?) but he suffered no consequences for his incitement. Anybody know more about this?
Are you horrified by the actions of the various Human Rights Commissions such as
their charges against Macleans magazine, Ezra Levant of the Western Standard and
Mark Steyn re his book “America Alone”?
I am! Our precious rights to free speech backed by over 800 years of British
justice and 250 years of Canadian custom and law are being trampled over by
these HRCs with their arbitrary and unappealable decisions.
Go to
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/a-free-dominion-against-the-hrcs/signatures.html
and check out the information there. If it upsets you as much as it does me,
you’ll sign the petition and add a pertinent comment. Better still, you’ll
email or write to your MP stating your firm opinion that these HRCs must be
brought into line with the laws and rules of our Charter and Canadian justice.
Make him/her think that your vote hinges on his support. That will get his/her
attention!
Every blogger should be posting all the cartoons in support of Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn. We can’t allow the Muslims to think for a minute that we will tolerate their Islamofascism here.
This is war for our freedom and for our country. Muslims either embrace Liberal democracy, or they get the hell out!!!
Were the opening remarks televised? I would have dearly loved to have been there to see it.
I remember about six years ago before I left the country, some perfessor in Calgary got a lip on about what some pastor wrote in a “Letters to the Editor” piece in a local Red Deer paper. It was obvious that this academic dick spent a great deal of time looking about trying to find stuff to be insulted at. Anyone remember the outcome? I be the pastor lost.
Nominate Ezra for the Order of Canada….nah a cold beer has more prestige.
right, me no dhimmi – I think that the concept that there is no inherent ‘right’ NOT to be offended should be added to the list of problems with the HRC.
The HRC is in violation of basic Canadian rights on a number of levels: human rights, fundamental freedoms, legal rights.
1) The HRC focuses on speculation rather than actual facts. That is, it concerns itself with evaluating whether an image/statement ‘might’ cause a particular result. There is no actual evidence required in the HRC review of any such result having occurred.
To set up a legal process that bases its decisions on pure speculation is a violation of our basic legal rights of being judged according to actual evidence.
2) The HRC focuses on subjectivism rather than objective data. Its focus on emotional feelings of ‘hatred’ or ‘contempt’ are purely subjective and arbitrary. There is not and cannot be any direct relation between a particular image/statement and another person’s subjective feeling of ‘hatred’ or ‘contempt’.
Furthermore, to abstract a particular image/statement and assign it specific causality in causing ‘hatred’ or ‘contempt’ ignores the reality of previous embedded sets of subjective feelings in all of us. We are not ’empty buckets’; we are a collection of accumulated knowledge and experiences.
This HRC rejection of basic cognitive processes betrays deep ignorance of cognition.
3)There is not and cannot exist, such a ‘right’ as the ‘right not to be offended’. The reason is that ‘being offended’ is a subjective rather than objective state, and therefore it cannot ever be considered a violation of a fundamental right which must be both universal and objectively observable.
Therefore, for the HRC to define ‘being offended’ as a valid criterion for its decisions, is itself a violation of our fundamental rights; namely
b)” freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication’ (Charter of Rights).
It should be noted that the articulation of these freedoms is a NECESSARY articulation and requires the steadfast support of the state. The reason is because any expression of thought, belief and opinion that rejects causing ‘offense’ would halt all capacity for change, adaptation, progress and development in that state. Dissent and debate is a basic requirement of the reasoning mind.
4) The fact that the HRC operates without evidence, within future-based imaginary speculation, within subjective emotional descriptions – means that it is in violation of our basic legal rights.
The fact that the HRC uses the taxpayer’s money to fund the complaintant and provides no assistance to the accused, is in violation of our basic legal rights of equality (section 15.1 of the Charter) which includes “has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law”.
The fact that the HRC is in direct violation of our basic Charter Rights of Freedom of Expression is an outrageous situation.
The HRC should be immediately disbanded.
ET – thanks so much for the URL to the Federal Act. I am sure it will make for an interesting read. What I see so far is actually rather frightening, given the realities of today. Presumbly we have an “Alberta Human Rights Act,” or something of this nature, guiding and empowring the process Ezra is involved with. I’m left wondering what an actual political strategy (i.e., practical, organized and logcial) might look like.
We need a time line re the cartoons.
When were they published in Denmark.
How many months later did some muslim see them and go to Pakistan and tell about them.
What was the reaction, to this information.
It was muslims that rioted and killed and had carbques. It was muslims that did damage to others.
When were the cartoons published in the WS, and how many years later did some iman get offended.
Same goes for the Steyn/Macleans business.
Perhaps the iman should have complained that publishing these cartoons would cause muslims to go into a rage against non muslims, not the other way around.
Ezra is right when he says it is muslim actions causing hate against them.
Let us hope this is the beginning of the end for this farce of a HRC.
Thanks, irwin daisy for your helpful analyses.
You wrote, “The popular entertainment subset of the indoctrinational phase teaches this modeling and coding by in our example
“1. Identifying people who hold a ‘Wrong’ view and aligning them with a negative stereotype, e.g. Rednecks, Flag Waving Patriots, Ignorant.
“2. Teaching people to model ‘Right’ behavior by rejecting their views as bigoted and ignorant using a fuzzy rote response that has no real meaning.”
I may be quite wrong, but it seems to me that #1. above might be in action, right here, right now, at SDA. E.g., I gave information about what the women’s group, REAL Women (RW) has had to say about the HRCs. Not only did RW say almost the same things as Ezra has, it said them long before he did.
Four and a half hours later, no one seems to have noticed—or cared to remark on—RW’s prescience and, I might say, intelligence concerning this issue. Now, as RW has long been identified and labelled as “wrong” by the powers that be, it has the altogether undeserved reputation of being redneck, stupid, unworthy of notice. As one can tell by reading the two well reasoned, knowledgeable excerpts I provided, nothing could be further from the truth. (I’ll bet quite a few people here cringed to see REAL Women favourably mentioned on this thread: “THAT group? Who wants to be linked to them?” Of course, that’s altogether in keeping with the statists’ plan to marginalize the voice of reason as spoken by their enemies.)
REAL Women has been a voice crying in the wilderness about the HRCs—and a whole lot of other important issues that are changing Canada for the worse, right under our noses. RW has been right on the money on this issue and I’m sure they’re delighted to see someone else finally carrying the ball in the public square.
But isn’t it too bad for all of us that their concerns about the HRCs went unheeded for so long?
Godspeed, Ezra, and keep giving ’em hell!
Is the HRC an open forum that the public can attend or do they hide behind closed doors?
Perhaps Canadians should make a real effort to staff the HRC with people like Ezra — piss in you boots HRC — LOL 🙂
Videos also at LGF. …-
Outrage of the Week: Canadian Publisher Persecuted for Mindcrime
An excellent opening statement by Ezra Levant, at his Canadian Human Rights Commission “hearing” for publishing the Danish cartoons of blasphemy. This hearing is an outrage, and Levant is brilliant here.
http://tinyurl.com/38635a
I know what you mean lookout.
I have consistently stated that the ideology of Islam is foundationally violent and the impetus for jihad in all its various forms. I have shown mountains of evidence to support this fact from the Islamic trilogy – the Quran, Hadith and Sira.
For doing so I am vilified not only by leftist smear artists, but get labeled ‘bigot’ by so-called Conservatives like teddy and Jimbo. Not one of them debates with a rational counter argument or facts. This is because they typically admit that they haven’t read the Quran, or supporting texts and therefore have no knowledge of the content. Yet, it seems they do believe that their feelings trump knowledge and facts – and ad hominem attacks trump all.
It’s both odd and alarming how criticism and exposure of the actual Islamic doctrine creates such hysteria and irrationality amongst non-Muslims as well.
MaryT,
Add to your timeline:
The Mo toons were published in a small Egyptian paper in October 2005 – no riots.
The Danish imam used faked Mo toons to whip up outrage at the Pan-Arab meetings in December 2005. It took another 6 weeks for the Pakistanis to get in enough Danish flags to stage impromptu riots, arsons and murders.
Isn’t it outrageous that the MSM isn’t really covering this critically important crossroads in Canadian and human rights history?
What little the MSM is saying, it seems to me to be more in line with imposed politically correct dogma than with what the actual facts are.
Most important of all, the MSM is refusing to tell the Canadian People that the “human rights” commissions are unconstitutional and actually take away rights rather than uphold them. This is dangerously irresponsible and the MSM will be held morally and ethically responsible for everyone whose rights are jackbooted by the commissions from now on!
Really, it couldn’t hurt the MSM to have objective, scrupulously honest and impartial experts give commentary on newscasts to explain how the hrc is illegitimate, unconstitutional and perpetually jackbooting the rights of the accused. This is the least they can do. Sure, they can also have “experts” from the Far Left to spew lies if they want, but at least present both the truth and the Big Leftwing Lies as opposed to merely the latter, as they usually do!
What better proof is there of the hidden but apparent agenda of the MSM than this?
HRC’s have nothing on the old USSR, they’re pure Commissars, we’re all wards of the state, they’ll tell us what we can say, what we can do, what we can think. We’ll obey or else pay a big price to our friendly neighbourhood lawyers.
If someone doesn’t like what we do or say they lodge that grievance and we’re off to disgrace and bankruptcy to defend ourselves, IF WE CAN.