Pieter Dorsman on the latest trend to emerge from the great Dutch social experiment;
As opposed to “Give me your tired, your poor” many jurisdictions in the new world have discovered that the disgruntled Dutch are anything but tired and poor. They’re young, affluent, well-educated, entrepreneurial, fluent in English and smart enough to have figured that the time has come to get out as the future can no longer be found at home.
The numbers corroborate this trend. In the first nine months of last year a record number of Dutch packed their bags with some 100,000 leaving the country, an increase of 12% on the previous year. For this year another increase is expected and, according to some research bureaus the overall attitudes about leaving are changing as well.
This year some 32% are seriously considering a move as opposed to 26% last year according to the ‘Emigration Monitor’. What is even more revealing is that the 20 to 30 age group constitutes the largest group of leavers, a trend that got further momentum when one polling group figured out that about half of the nation’s adolescents would, given the chance, prefer to pack up and go. Last year’s number confirm that the Dutch are experiencing the largest net outflow of people since the post-war emigration boom of the 1950s and the remarkable attitude shifts will ensure that this trend will persist in the years to come.
So if they let holland be ruined to the point where they have to leave whatever we do don’t let them and their liberal values here.
This our future if we keep our excessive immigration up.
Pls cut the numbers Seve for my children’s sake.
Now whats the most common first name given to children in Holland,…
No, no, the euro-filth *must* me made to stew in their own faeces.
That idea of sending young offenders to their ancestral homes, in hopes they will re-connect with their culture, has only one flaw. They let them come back.
This is the most bizarre form of “rehabilitation” in any justice system, I’ve ever heard of. Must be very costly, as well.
It will look good on the old-guard, eurotrash elite when there will be no young workers to support their “entitlements” in their old age.
They will have a lot of young jobless muslims, though. Have fun.
Hopefully they can move their museums with them before they muslims burn it.
Socialists think they have all the angles covered. The one angle they cannot cover, short of invoking totalitarianism, is that people can and will vote with their feet.
What remains behind is a society that believes that picking each other’s pockets forms a sound basis for an economy. Yuck.
A bit over the top there BillyHW.
These Dutch immigrants probably represent those that can read the tea-leaves, and have the gumption to get up and go. In my opinion, they sound like good immigration candidates for Canada.
How does one say “who is John Galt?” in Dutch?
I think it is a lot of the rural dutch or small town dutch coming . the cesspool of Amsterdam likely remains more or less intact. Amsterdam is not Holland, it is the main sewage outlet of Europe.
Well duh you have to know that the potheads from the toke shops of the big cities are not going to have much motivation to go any where else!
I have a real problem with what is going to be an increasing demand by Europeans to lite elsewhere after they’ve trashed their countries. Here. My open letter:
Hey, for decades you sat on your butts, contentedly sucking off of the welfare state, demanding not much out of your bureaucrats and politicians. You never took the right causes to the streets in any meaningful protests, so Holland is now trashed. Every perversity was tolerated by you to the point that nothing has any principled values. You watched America do the heavy lifting as world’s policeman, your safety financed by our taxpayers, while you’ve smugly denounced us at every turn. You won’t face down Islamofascists, our kid’s will. It’s cheap and easy to give your kids a fresh start now that the homestead is a trash heap. The kiddie get a foothold here and you can exit with your old age pension and live out your golden years, away from the squalor, on my Florida beach. Like hell. That gets earned. And, I’m not talking money. A poor legal entry Mexican that has never participated in your decadent life and squandered it gets first dibs for my beach chair.
So, please don’t think the kid(in the Eurotrash bikini) is welcomed. Americans owe you nothing.
Sincerely…..
Penny:
Speak for yourself.
This article is about people in their 20’s and 30’s. They didn’t create the society they live in. Many of them, in fact, probably don’t like the society they live in – that’s why they are looking elsewhere.
Penny, you should not be smearing all of Dutch society with the same brush. If someone is honest, has job skills, and is willing to work, Canada can find room.
…maybe just maybe, the Dutch see Global Warming as a reality and the dikes can’t hold much longer.
Global Warming, as in sun/earth thing and not the hot air coming out of some mouths.
I see from the comments that there are others who understand that the new wave of European expats are nothing more than the same liberal socialists that are at the root of the problems in their home country!
These folks have no intention of doing anything but relive and reproduce their lifestyles in other less intimidating locals. Completely oblivious to the role they have and will continue to play in the deterioration of civil society.
The second wave of pilgrims. Interesting times.
Penny, I know of two kinds of Dutch:
1. Who fought in the war and are a clean, proud people.
2. Those who are arrogant, pompous, and think they are the culture centre of universe, usually with strong German background family ties.
Both, generally are hard workers, so I welcome them rather than the welfare cases coming over by the plane load.
I just learned to ignore the rants more than the other.
“Shh! Shhush!”
(Peering through continental peep hole)
“It’s the socialist euroweenies at the door, they’ve shit thier bed again.
Maybe if we turn out the lights and don’t answer the phone , they’ll go away this time.”
Do you know who’s filling the gap? Muslims immigrants. The Islamic tide will slowly swallow up country after country until they do own the world. That is their plan and they don’t conceal it. Their population is exploding while we kill ourselves off with unrestricted abortion (over the past decade 1,000,000 in Canada – over 15 million in the USA). “Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee.”
I say bring ’em on. Here is a great source of immigration for Canada to regain the balance we were supposed to have. It’s time to get back to our European, Christian roots, and a Dutch influx would go a long way. It’s about time we let some white people back into this country. We’ve spent a century tending to the minorities and Muslims and Jews. Let’s have our Canada back.
In the first nine months of last year a record number of Dutch packed their bags with some 100,000 leaving the country
Just to put that number in some perspective, the population of the Netherlands is about 16 million. For the USA, the equivalent figure would be two million – twice the population of Saskatchewan.
Count me among those who believe that the ones most likely to emigrate are the hardest-working ones with the skills and energy to create wealth, and who are most upset with the frustrations that living in the Netherlands imposes on their desire to create wealth and good lives for themselves.
They didn’t create the society they live in……that’s why they are looking elsewhere
Suppose there was no elsewhere.
So, what are they doing to change it? Societies aren’t monoliths, they change.
That’s a reasonable sized demographic number(20’s & 30’s) to change the society they live in, if not them, then, who? They walk, they talk, they shop, they have educations/money, they vote, and they have the means(cellphones and pc’s) to get grassroots stuff going. They are every bit a part of the political process in Holland as their parents.
I think as the Muslim immigrants make Europe more and more unbearable, Canada, Australia and the United States will benefit from many European refugees like the Dutch in this article.
I only hope our own immigration numbers show that we are taking on the best and brightest, preferably with money, and are limiting the number of Muslims.
It would be great if Canada just publicly stated that we would give preferential treatment to any Jewish people looking to leave an increasing anti-Semetic Europe.
When the rest of Europe is full of peace loving muslims it will be so much easier for the next German dictator to rise up, re-arm and conquer the whole damn territory.
This time, the Germans can keep it . it won’t be worth fighting the German’s just to give the land back to the euro mullahs.
I think that a lot of them are leaving because they are tired of the huge Muslim population that continually degrades life in Denmark. Ross I disagree strongly with you, if someone is raped or becomes pregnant during their teen years, you think that they should raise their kid? You want more ruined, poor families in Canada/US? I agree that our decreasing birth rates are a problem, but I think that people need to have children when they _want_, not when it’s forced upon them.
So to boil it all down to a few words, you’ve got a bunch of mental midget lefties totally destroying a once beautiful country.
It’s the same road Canada was headed down under the Liberal governments of the last four decades.
Throw in a few hundred thousand unintegrated muzzies bent on further destruction and you’ve got a real powder keg.
“…you’ve got a bunch of mental midget lefties totally destroying a once beautiful country. It’s the same road Canada was headed down under the Liberal governments of the last four decades.”
Which year, exactly, is the ‘good old days’ you’d like to return to? Is it 1958? 1944? 1927? Which is the utopian year you’d like to live in?
The thing is, they may be coming because they fear living in Hollonistan, but that does not mean that they will embrace North American values and politics (except maybe w/r/t Muslim issues). They are still ready-made NDP/Lib/Green voters – remember that the Dutch assasinated a gay, openly drug-using sociology professor for being too right wing – just because he was afraid Muslim immigrants would change his country so that he would be unable to indulge his preferred lifestyle (and I would take Pim Fotunyn any day over Sharia, but that’s beside the point). The problem is the Euro approach of relativism, nhilism and tolerance of the intolreant and the intolerable inevitably leads to the situation that these folks are trying to escape. Europe is being colonized at a rapid rate, and its inhabitants are too wrapped up in their own post-colonial guilt and their demographic death-spiral to do anything about it.
I’d pick 1967. The year before Trudeau took office.
My parents immigrated from holland in the 50’s. They were hugely impressed by the Canadian soldiers who liberated them and this played a major part in they’re choosing this country.
Does anybody remember the 60 year liberation celebration party a year or two back? – the Dutch were nuts over the Canadians and still are.
The Dutch Canadians i grew up with were fanatically proud of being Canadian – born conservatives.
Hopefully this generation of immigrants is cut from the same clothe the last.
Thruthseeker – that’s a simplistic reduction and you know it. Sure there’s no “ideal” year but how about we slow down the headlong rush to destroy Canada’s previous identity in search of some socialist newtopia? How about putting the history of Canada’s wars into the school curriculem (and not just the internment of the Japanese – though that should still be a part of the history, and the reasons for it freely debated?)? How about taking a little pride in the Westminster system of government that, while far from perfect, provided the framework to build a country that is clearly a desirable place to move to? How about insisting to newcomers that while everyone has the right to practice their religion (consisten with the laws of the land) and to honour and celebrate their heritage, they have a DUTY to work towards becoming Canadians, to learn the official language of the area in which they live and respect the traditions and practices of the people that built the country that they obviously found so desirable.
Actually, I like the 1967 idea too.
“remember that the Dutch assasinated a gay, openly drug-using sociology professor for being too right wing – just because he was afraid Muslim immigrants would change his country so that he would be unable to indulge his preferred lifestyle”
Ummm, no. The Dutch didn’t assassinate him, a muslim extremist did because of a film he created that didn’t sit well with extremists. The Dutch were horrified over the incident.
Oh to go back in time and take out that commie scum turdoh. Just think how much better our world would be.
I emigrated from Holland in ’56. I was 23 and looking for a country with less regulation, more freedom and more opportunities. And that’s what Canada has been, a wonderful country indeed until PET tried to make it into what Holland was when I left.
The Dutch may have their faults, they can be judgmental and arrogant. But my guess is that those who are willing to pack their bags and get over here will be the hardworking people who’ll earn their keep in no time. And I wouldn’t be surprised if they would be the ones to support PMSH rather than the type of left wing parties they left behind.
I canna help myself.
wooden shoes, wooden head , wouldn’ listen
1967 eh?
Alright all together now…
CA-NA-DA
(One little two little three Canadians)
We love thee
(Now we are twenty million)
CA-NA-DA
(Four little five little six little Provinces)
Proud and free
(Now we are ten and the Territories sea to sea)
(Chorus):
North south east west
There’ll be happy times,
Church Bells will ring, ring, ring
It’s the hundredth anniversary of
Confederation
Ev’rybody sing together!
CA-NA-DA…
…Dang, now can’t get that song outta my head.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_%28song%29
Hey what’s wrong with 1958?
Great year, the world wasn’t the same after 7:30pm PST June 7th…
😉
DrWright and BillyHW, penny – now I start feeling that the conservative crowd are the immigrant hating bigots. Just kidding.
Sincerely, Aaron, a card carrying gun toting conservative, whose predecessors were executed in the 1917 communist turnover.
PS: Would you like to send me back to Russia?
BTW, Pieter Dorsman has a very good site. Unfortunately he’s too busy to turn it into a blog, still, it’s a good daily read. Also he’s a member of Roger Simon’s :
http://pajamasmedia.com/
which in turn is a fan of Kate’s pick .. Fred Thompson.
A glimpse at the vast right wing conspiracy in action.
Well, let’s see, Truth Seeker, 1944 was the “greatest generation”, those unselfish and principled Canadian and American men and women whose efforts saved Europe. They are also the same crowd that created a measure of wealth in America/Canada unparalleled in our history.
Their counterparts, the “utopian” crowd had the Soviet gulag in full swing(lots of Soviet war vets ended up there), was planning purges, artificial famines and the subjugation of Eastern Europe.
I’m with Tomax on this one. The ultra left responsible for the changes don’t generally have the motivation required to cross the Atlantic anyway.
Like the Jews leaving France for Quebec, I just hope Saskatchewan has a booth at the next Dutch emigration fair.
I’d take the Hirsi Ali’s into Canada, and we should have extended that invitation; the bed makers can have europe for their socialist culture’s long overdue death!
Arthur, this particular post is not abortion focused however I want to respond to your question by stating that I do SUPPORT abortion as a result of a rape induced pregnancy or because of a genuine medical condition. Don’t worry be happy should never be an option as it is currently, for young teens when it comes to sex. No, I do not expect these young teens to raise these children. Seeing the pregnacy through to birth also teaches the mother responsibility. Childless couples in Canada currently have to wait 10 yrs or more to adopt a child because of a shortage of babies. I know of several, one a single mother, who because of a shortage of babies here in Canada she has had to resort to 3rd world countries for adoption. Frankly, in this day and age there are very few excuses for an unwanted pregnancy. Students receive sex education in every school in this country. Good grief, there’s even a morning after pill now. For those (women of any age) that choose, and I emphasize choose, to have unprotected consentual sex then society should make it clear that they will be expected both legally and morally to accept the consequences of their decision. To counteract the low birthrate we have wide open immigration to bolster our sagging population base which in turn is creating more and more of a national security issue as time goes by. Teaching responsibilty, especially to our youth while protecting the unborn or the alternative. It all comes down to right and wrong and morality versus ‘so-called’ rights.
“The ultra left responsible for the changes don’t generally have the motivation required”
…I’ll toke to that!
Umm, never mind.
TruthSeeker
I never mentioned “the good old days” but common sense governments as opposed to loony left “progressive” governments would have been preferable and wouldn’t have put us in the mess we’re in.
Here’s a good essay on what happens in Holland nowadays. It was originally posted on a Russian language forum, I translated it to English. The essay is quite long but worth reading.
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=60301
“North American values and politics”
So there’s no distinction between Canada and the US in that respect? I know you think this is, or would be, a good thing. I don’t. A lot of Canadians don’t.
But I am well aware that you are probably going to win out because that’s what business wants. Soon there will be no Canada in any meaningful sense.
“So there’s no distinction between Canada and the US in that respect?”
Not enough to count. We aren’t uniform enough in our history or geography, for one.
There’s more distinction between Canadians than there is between Canadians and Americans.
But I’ve said that before.
The Dutch were horrified over the incident.
Not horrified enough to stop Hirsi Ali being forced out of the country. Any indignant street protests when the Minister of Immigration conveniently went after her as “the problem”? How’s that for defending western values. She’s no lover of the Dutch.
Please, the Dutch have reaped what they’ve sown, as have the French. These are the same folks busy at putting up bronze statues honoring prostitution as they slouch toward dhimmitude.
We’ve got enough problems in America with the lame and toxic left, importing immigrants-of-convenience isn’t a good deal. I’ll take a the risk anyday on a legal entry Mexican – hard working conservative Catholic – that hasn’t that kind of background. They never stood a chance in changing Mexico unlike their irresponsible and decadent European counterparts.
All my life I have seen my beautiful country taken over by the commies . There is a difference America hasnt been beaten down as badly as canuckistan has. We need to stand up and take our country back. Or just put a wall up and keep the east in the cold and dark.
Multirec, re your 3.39: Holdfast (3.29) was referring to Pim Fortuijn, the politician, not Theo van Gogh, the film director. Fortuijn was assassinated by the animal rights activist Volkert van der Graaf (ethnic Dutch to the core), while van Gogh was murdered by Mohammed Bouyeri (an ethnic Moroccan) in the name of Islam.
Just to set the record straight…It was Theo Van Gogh that was killed by a Muslim extremist for his involvement in the making of the movie “Submission” along with Hirsi Ali. That movie was critical of Islam’s treatment of women.
“Pim Fortuyn stood for reduced immigration (especially by Muslims whose beliefs he believed to be in conflict with Dutch society.) His most controversial statements (which got him labeled a right-winger): “Islam is … simply a backward culture. … I would simply say, no more Muslims can come in! … Holland is full.”
Fortuyn was shot to death May 6, allegedly by an animal-rights activist who may have been upset at Fortuyn’s support for raising animals, such as mink, for their fur. The suspect, Volkert van der Graaf, 32, has not made any statement.”
‘Aboriginal’ Dutch people are fed up with having their kids get beat up at school by the Muslim majority, the dutch government is quick to accuse them of racism if they say anything, so it’s hard to blame them for leaving.
The Islamic Republic of the Netherlands will be a much different place.