Just announced a independent investigation into the RCMP pension/insurance allegations, to report back in 8 – 12 weeks, with additional powers granted if required.
Let’s hope it signals a pull back from that peculiar fondness of Canadian politicians for
interminable legal community “make work programs” like Gomery and Milgaard – costing millions, accomplishing little.
CTV story here.
Stockwell has the correct attitude here.
This all ties into Bill C2, [I think,..yes!]
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Bill C-2 (the so-called “Federal Accountability Act”) Becomes Federal Law — Summary of the Key Measures in Bill C-2
Wednesday, December 13, 2006
[ This is one item of many, but cuts to the core].
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Dr. Bernard Shapiro, the current federal Ethics Commissioner, who has in dozens of cases failed to enforce federal ethics rules, will very likely be replaced by a new appointee to the new position of Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, in part because Bill C-2 requires the new Commissioner to have expertise in the area of ethics enforcement (which Dr. Shapiro does not have) — To see details about Democracy Watch’s court challenge of the Ethics Commissioner Dr. Shapiro’s failure to enforce federal ethics rules, click here;
dwatch.ca/camp/BillC-2Analysis.html
============== Thanks Duff & Democracy Watch.
Excellent progress toward saving our public wealth, no matter who the future feds happen to be.
Impressive to see the blunt truth about ethics commish Shaphiro expressed so clearly.
That same bluntness is required for Auditor General Sheila Fraser who discovers Adscams and RCMPGates only AFTER they hit the fan. = TG
This scandal, and it is a scandal, has been going on for some time. The Senior Officers used every rule in the book to block the investigation, refused to do an internal investigation, and then when the criminal investigation was done they claimed the 1 year time limit was up and they couldn’t do internal discipline. It goes right to the top. This comes directly from politicizing the RCMP brass, making the commissioner a deputy-minister, and promoting people based on political connections and skills rather than policing.
As the very proud Mom,of an RCMP member,this saddens me greatly.That those in the upper echelons would besmirch so badly,the pride that goes with the wearing of the Red Serge,is indeed a dark day.I will say tho,that there seems to be a need to clean up from top down,and who knows what Libs.will be crawling from under this rock??
NEWS FLASH: Young backbench Cons.Mp,now on his feet in the House,on Question of Priveledge,bringing up the Holland/Jennings ‘theft'(my word) of conf.Cons.documents.Speaking of the misrepresentation by the pair of “Supersleuths”
This just very might well be the tip of a very ugly iceberg. It’d sure be nice to be a shredder salesman in Ottawa these days working on commission.
Uh would you believe me if the LPC especially in Quebec was the proxy for organized crime and especially international organized crime? Bedard knew what she was talking about.
Shrewd move by Harper et al. A report will be ready before or during an election. No wonder the Liberals wanted a public inquiry.
Is this tied into the sponsership scandal?
Absolutely correct Fiumara, Shawn Murphy and the rest of the Lie-beral’s were hoping for a full blown public inquiry that could take a couple of years to complete. Heh.
“Shrewd move by Harper et al. A report will be ready before or during an election. No wonder the Liberals wanted a public inquiry.
Is this tied into the sponsership scandal?”
Given the actions of the rcmp during the last election – I’m referring to the leak about the Goodale investigation – I would surmise that their ties are to the Conservative Party rather than to the Liberals.
From the CTV article…”The NCPC (National Compensation Policy Centre) Director established consulting contracts valued at over $20 million, overriding controls to avoid competitions for the contracts. These contracts resulted in some work of questionable value being performed, and excessive fees for administrative services of little or no value being charged to the pension plan”
Angry in the Great White North
November 18, 2005
The Abotech Affair: A twist in the road
…Here’s something the newspapers haven’t reported. It turns out that the company that managed the RCMP pension fund, Morneau Sobeco, did not deal directly with the government. The government gave a lucrative contract to another company that would direct Morneau Sobeco in the management of the fund. In fact, that company set up the contract, selected Morneau Sobeco to execute the contract, and dealt with any contract amendments…
….The name of that company that acted as the government’s agent, directing Morneau Sobeco in the management of the RCMP Pension Fund? Abotech…
angrygwn.mu.nu/archives/134221.php
I’m probably cynical but I wonder how much of that money found its way into paper bags in Montreal restaurants?
it is nice to see the PM stand up for what we Canadians want………….JUSTICE……there are bad apples everywhere so let’s weed them out and see how may Liberals come crawling out!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good for Stock!
The speedy culling of this little garbage can at the RCMP will likely turn up some more Liberal Maggots.
I say get them exposed to the sunlight ASAP.
Anybody care to guess how many people will get sentenced to house arrest for their involvement in this?
“Given the actions of the rcmp during the last election – I’m referring to the leak about the Goodale investigation – I would surmise that their ties are to the Conservative Party rather than to the Liberals.”
I don’t support your premise as to the political affiliation, if any, of the nearly 22000 members of the RCMP. In a previous election the RCMP was lambasted in the press for delaying the execution of a search warrant of the premises of a candidate for fear of influencing the election.
They just win in situations like this, regardless of their choice of action.
an unfortunate inadvertant deletion….I meant to say, of course, they just CAN’T win…
I expect the rank & file of the RCMP are above reproach, but like any government department, when you get to the level where million dollar deals can be made, the signing authorities are political appointments and if there was fraud, there’s bound to be a political connection.
Ross, I doubt if anyone will even be charged let alone convicted of any wrongdoing. From Adscam, OLG in Ontario, Ontario Hydro, the theft of millions of our money goes on and on. Only a couple of minor players have ever been convicted of anything yet the ones responsible walk away with a golden handshake.
Corruption destroys countries yet Canada treats it like its nothing. Every scandal seems to be just another make-work project for lawyers on both sides to run up massive charges for what ends up like water running through your fingers and we all say “What happened, is that it?”
Afraid not “exile”, they just thought it was business as usual. Nice try though.
Morneau Sobeco is essentially a software company, it runs the servers and web sites for the plan members to use. I wonder why RCMP would need someone to serve as a middle man with a service provider??? It’s double work to tell A to tell B to do something…
What I want to see is the criminal investigation into the sale of HW 407! That would have been big.
while stockwell made the right call but i agree with david hand. unfortunately the perpetrators will get away as is always the case in this country it seems.
If I remember correctly ,during the investigation of liberal corruption involving sponsorships that the RCMP were found to be involved.Secret bank accounts,supposed purchases of horseys & trailers & it was glossed over rather quickly.
Is there liberal involvement,sure there is!This is just another layer inadvertently peeled away to show that Adscam was just a very small tip of the continuous ethical & moral demise of the liberal party.Remember that not to long ago that Dion wanted to allow digraced Adscam liberals to rejoin the party,to rejoin the liberals who did not get caught or punished!
Will anyone high up take the fall,not a chance.
Ethics commish just quit .
“Given the actions of the rcmp during the last election – I’m referring to the leak about the Goodale investigation – I would surmise that their ties are to the Conservative Party rather than to the Liberals.”
(1) The RCMP did in fact charge someone over this; (2) they had no choice but to announce their investigation (there was no “leak”) when they did since the Security and Exchange Commission in the US was set to tell about it too.
I’ve always wondered why the RCMP had so little curiosity about Shawinigate and showed so little energy in pursuing it ….
This ‘investigation’ of the RCMP- will this be done by the Ottawa Police Farce? (Considering that the RCMP is currently ‘investigating’ corruption in the Toronto Police Farce)?
49 of the 60 odd temps who were working for the RCMP, were relatives of RCMP members. (Who were they related to, and why did they receive double pay?) Betcha ten bucks that we never find out!
Zacardelli’s 200,000 dollar bathroom renovation- what was the NAME of the company who did that?
That 20,000 dollar painting on the wall of his office- which one of his relatives painted it?
And, is it true- that 75% of RCMP staff, are FRENCH QUEBECERS? (Betcha another ten bucks, that is ‘classified information’, too!
Missed Newman today, and questin period. I did catch someone talking about incentives to leave a seat to be appointed to the senate could be called one, so someone else could run. Dion looked a little shaken, was the comment referring to how he got his seat.
mary T:
Yes, during the 35th Parliament, which was from 1994 – 1997, Shirley Maheu resigned her seat in Feb of ’96 and was immediately appointed to the Senate by Jean Cretin, and Dion ran in the by-election in March ’96.
Boots has come out swinging; Buzz is next out (CAW); then, Jeancula Chretien; then, AdScam Paul; then, UN Human Rights Sharia Council Head What’s-Her-Name is brought in to derail-scalp Day; Citoyen Dion, Bishop of the Unity Church, will pronounce the benediction: Fin.
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Pension coverup allegations ‘baseless,’ former RCMP chief says
CBC Ottawa – 1 hour ago
Former RCMP commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli
Too bad Stockwell doesn’t appoint SDA to do the RCMP inquiry. Would take about 24 hours for all the truth to get out.
I wondered how long it would take for the Conservatives to bring up Dion’s appointment, and Hollands theft. Anyone asked to resign or apologize today. The Clean Air Act will be a fight to the fininsh.
Exile, anyone who believes that Goodale has in any way, shape or form been exonerated for his miscreant behaviour prior to his announcement of no change to income trusts is sadly mistaken.
The RCMP is only a part of the Liberal Mafia. But! Who is really going to investigate? More freeking con artists inhabit Canada than a large Gypsy caravan? The Liberal thievery is in all governments, local, provincial, federal, media and individual overtaxed citizens of repute and ill repute. Oh happiness!
Stock Day’s just going to get the job done too fast for the Libs and Dippers. They both want a much longer investigation to be fair to all and sundry.
Probably about two years would suit their agenda.
This could just be another SCANDAL that went down under Liberal watch.
…one has to wonder how far this will go before international organized crime starts, uh, rearing its ugly head.
I pray to God the Conservatives get a majority, clean house, and Liberal Ontario wakes up and becomes a Conservative Ontario.
Well maybe two out of three. Ok, one of three, final offer.
Isn’t it funny to watch the libs so angry that they will expose their own long buried skeletons just to exact revenge on the ones they veiw as having sunk them in the last election. This after the RCMP covered for the little crook from schwinagin for years. Keep going libs you might yet reduce your popular vote to ZERO.
“Too bad Stockwell doesn’t appoint SDA to do the RCMP inquiry. Would take about 24 hours for all the truth to get out. ”
Yes, we’d get all the suspects in a room and subject them to a nattering they’d never forget…. LOL
Would it be just a coincidence if Alfonso Gagliano and Zacky knew each other before Z. was appointed? No,never happen,that would be too wierd if a reputed mob member influenced his buddy Jean to appoint a corrupt “acquaintence” to head up the country’s national police force. Hmmm,I wonder what would happen if someone googled thier names together? Oh my!!
wallyj:
I’m disappointed by your smear of Zacc. I’ve known him for years, worked with him, and I personally respect him as an incredibly honest and forthright person.
Fact is…at time in question, it was the RULE that any government contract over $50,000 HAD to be placed by Public Works…the RCMP had absolutely no choice in the matter.
Having been in that situation a number of times, it grated me to no extent, especially whern I saw MY contracts being given to those that I thought were inferior, but I had no choice in the matter, it was the law. Particularly grating was the fact that PWC took a 15% “fee” for negotiating the contracts.
As I understand it, the contract for finding a new administrator for the RCMP pension plan was sole-sourced, by the then-Liberal government, to Abotech Inc…a company that was formerly headed by David Smith, Liberal MP…and it was facilitated by his cousin, Frank Brazeau, a government staffer (who was raided by the RCMP during the ensuing investigation).
Fact is…the Liberals are crapping themselves about this investigation, because a number of them fear that it will turn into another Adscam issue…
A suggestion…before you flippantly disparage an honourable man who has given 35 years of his life in the service of his country…maybe get your head out of your a$$hole and begin to appreciate the facts surrounding the issue…
Well Brucey,Was Gagliano good friends with Z’s brother? Was Gagliano a very sketchy character in the Lib party? Was Gagger under suspicion for mob ties? Was Gagger a close friend of Chretien? Did Chretien appoint Z.? Was Z. put out of office because of deplorable conduct? Are you a rude little man who is completely devoid of logical thought? The answer to all the above questions is a resounding “YES”. Have a nice day.
Bruce:
Several people who worked with Zaccardelli testified yesterday that he was exactly the opposite of what you describe. So at the very least somebody’s got their head up their a$$, we just don’t know who. Yet…
I have said many times over that there should be members of the public on every commission or government inquiry. When all those chosen are of the same mindset what the hell does one think the outcome would be? All of a sudden you become fair minded and objective upon being appointed?
Well wallyj…have a nice day…I’ve been there and I’ve done that, and you, Sir, have not…you’re just an armchair critic asshole who has never put his ass on the line (apart from, I’m assuming, the odd paint-ball “shoot-out” and you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about…
In short…you’re a “no-mind” who certainly has no credibility with me…
A story in today’s National Post says that Mr. Harper “injected a note of partisanship into his answers during question period, saying that alleged misconduct at the RCMP happened under the Liberal government…”
Yeah, well, that’s just what he says. I guess.
Jack Layton: “I would call on the prime minister not to step into partisan accusations…”
Sherr. I remember a Keith Boag bit on CBC that was a transparently specious attempt to smear/entangle the Harper government in the Zaccardelli/Arar mess, which of course happened under the Liberal government.
Near the end of the segment Stockwell Day was shown in the House trying to be heard over the usual Liberal outraged shouting: “Why did it take members of that former government so long,” he asked, “when they knew there was a problem with this whole Arar affair which we didn’t know — we were asking questions — they knew, and instead of the previous ministers asking the RCMP to come in and explain themselves, they asked no questions, at no point, they just let it ride, Mr. Speaker.”
BOAG: “Fair question. But it only adds to the mystery of why the new government has allowed itself to get tangled up in the mess that belongs to the old government…”
In other words, when under attack by Liberals and Liberal media for events which occurred under the Liberals, DON’T point out that these events occurred under the Liberals, because in doing so you will just, you know, add to the mystery of how you’ve become entangled “in the mess that belongs to the old government.”
We’ve got to clean up that mess. This weeks’ news pertaining to alleged criminal malfeasance at the highest levels of the RCMP might sound like it all happened under the previous Liberal government — “sidelined whistleblowers”, “wrongdoers rewarded with improper payouts”, payments made for work of “little or no value”, “excessive payments to employees’ friends and family members hired as temporary staff…” — but only when someone as mean and partisan as Mr. Harper points it out.
Bottom line: it’s the Conservatives’ mess, AND it has nothing to do with partisan politics.
Here’s a good primer in how the cultural problem at the top of the RCMP is a completely non-partisan issue:
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Toronto/Lorrie_Goldstein/2005/04/09/989928.html
Having spent 28 years working with members of the RCMP, I hold the members on patrol in the highest regard. Unfortunately, RCMP Headquarters has become a home for a bunch of “carpet cops” who are more interested in furthering their own careers than making life better for working members on the street…..or protecting Canadians.
Oh Brucette,you hurt my feeling. When you have a chance have someone explain the word “honourable” to you. Once you understand the meaning,apply it to Zaccaradelli’s actions while he was in office.Hope to find you here after the inquiry. Sweet dreams sugar tits.
Well Bruce, I put my ass on the line for 28 yrs. How many years did you sit your ass in a comfy chair in Ottawa feasting your adoring eyes on Zac? Are you inferring that the two gutsy RCMP officers who are putting their reputations on the line for the sake of the RCMP are liars? If you are not, then you must believe they are telling the truth. If they are telling the truth, then your idol is a disgrace to the RCMP uniform (again), and might even deserve jail. So which is it?
Boys!
Settle down before I come down there and crack a few heads. You can debate without insulting each other.
But mommmm!! He started it and I was just having fun. Fine,I’ve been bad and will go to your room.
Anyone catch John Reynolds little ‘teaser’ tonite on Duff?Sounds like the election call could come on a crime/justice matter….bring it!!!
Question for everyone. If someone is breaking into your house, who do you want to call, the RCMP or Holland.
This from CBC.ca coverage seems to condemn Zacc.
The two senior career officers, Macaulay and Lewis, [who know the severe penalties for defamation better than most], spoke openly without reserve, their reputations fully at risk.
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The officers testified that they felt stonewalled by more than one senior executive when they tried to raise the issues with the leadership.
Macaulay said he was told, *I was on an island by myself.*
Now-retired staff sergeant Ron Lewis alleged his own queries were being blocked by the man who held the top job.
*I was met with inaction, delays, roadblocks, obstruction and lies,’ Lewis told the committee, alleging that: “The person who orchestrated most of this coverup was Commissioner Zaccardelli.*
Members of the committee expressed their shock over the allegations.
*I’m a lawyer and I think a lot of the stuff I’ve heard, you know, if it was anyone else, they’d be in criminal court … some of them may have been packing their toothbrushes for the crowbar hotel visit,* Conservative MP Brian Fitzpatrick said.
*It’s like Watergate,* Liberal MP Shawn Murphy said. *The coverup is worse than the crime.*
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Bruce said,
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I’m disappointed by your smear of Zacc. I’ve known him for years, worked with him, and I personally respect him as an incredibly honest and forthright person. **
Uninformed as I am, it looks a little heavy for Zacc unless someone can show how and why the *knives* are out for him. = TG
mary T ” … If someone is breaking into your house, who do you want to call, the RCMP or Holland.”
Why would you call Holland? … he’s already there.