63 Replies to “Baby Boomers”

  1. “I will remind eveyone of the rules. If you wish to engage in extended debates, take it to email. Generally, if you’ve posted three times in response to another commentor, it’s (past) time to go to email.”
    sarge here. quite yer debating folks, doncha know yer all supposed to be hatin on the moozlim kiddies?

  2. Sarge: when the day comes that you pay for the bandwidth (and put in the time moderating) here, I’ll request your input on how the rules are to be enforced.
    To their credit, I will say that a number of those who do use the comments frequently have contributed to that expense with donations.
    While I appreciate the support, it’s also important to remember that the likelihood that anyone else will read your debate diminishes in proportion to the length of the comments thread.
    Part of the appeal of SDA is the comments. If you don’t want your own well-thought out observations drowned in a sea of back and forth repetitive chatter, then refrain from doing it to others.

  3. And to answer your other question, Sarge, I pay for costs of the site and always have.
    In fact, I did so for the first two years without inviting any advertising at all, while the paypal button was only added last November.

  4. I am an x cancer patent: I fought cancer for 10 year with out going into it all I learned one thing! God is about free will and choice: so he gave us life so we can choice our own destiny. It’s your choice up or down; those who choice the wrong path do not have a pray!
    People who lead children in a direction like these children have been: WILL burn in HELL!
    These children are innocent BUT will grow up to regret their future following in their mother’s foot steps: when they cross over: when it is to late!!!!
    Don’t be followers it’s your life: your sole: be the best person you can be! HATE has no place where we ALL want to go!!!!!
    God is about truth, love and justice nothing else!
    Holey wars that’s saintin at his best!!!!
    Jim Smith
    Caledonia

  5. seeing as religious works have been cited here, anybody can tell me which version of ‘the’ bible is the one which is ‘the’ infalable perfect word of God?
    Im too much a dumbass to figure that one out….
    are there different ‘versions’ of the koran? I dont mean translations into various languages, but different collection of passages altogether, in the same language whether it be arabic or english or whatever, ALL claiming to be ‘the’ only correct one.
    lots of versions of ‘the’ bible to go around !!! and they cant ALL be right.
    “onward christian soooooldiers,
    marching off to war !!!
    etc etc”

  6. I always seem to come late to these discussions
    which usually are centered on ET trying to convince everyone that there is no religious component to the Arab/Israeli conflict – its just a land dispute and the Jews are preventing the ancient Palestinians from achieving their dreams of nationalism.
    Her argument boils down to “the Jews stole their land, so no wonder they are upset” and “after the Jews stole their land they continue to steal more land that is supposed to be theirs so no wonder they teach their children that killing Jews is good”.
    Based on some Jews who actually get mad and shout things about transfering Arabs (imagine that, how dare those Jews get angry and yell) she concludes that Israelis are indoctrinating their children to hate – she promotes the position of moral equivalence – BOTH SIDES are equally bad/good. This position when taken by Western governments ensures that the conflict will continue.
    The quotes brought forth from the Talmud are the ones trotted forth since the Middle Ages to slander Jews. The Talmud is basically a record of Jews debating legal and religious ideas (imagine Jews arguing). It is a mistake to take one line and think it represents Judaism’s position on something, because 5 lines later you can read the counter-argument and opinion of someone else.
    for example (from the Talmud unmasked)
    “CLAIM
    Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals (“she-asses”).
    RESPONSE (1)
    Let’s start off earlier up Berachot 58a. It says that anyone who sees a non-Jewish wise man should bless G-d for giving His wisdom to all his creatures (not just Jews). Anyone who sees a non-Jewish king should bless G-d for giving His glory to all his creatures (not just Jews). Someone should run to see a king, whether Jewish or non-Jewish. These are not misinterpreted quotes by individual Rabbis, and can be found in almost any prayerbook.
    Having said that, Berachot 58a also records one individual sage (Rabbi Shila) referring to an ancient Egyptian woman as a she-ass. It does NOT generalise to Gentile women in the least”
    I’ve said it before here and I will say it again:
    the belief in “Palestinian nationalism” and “the Jews stole their land” is as irrational as the deicide charge. It is this generation’s version of the Jews should be punished for killing Jesus

  7. Thanks ex-liberal for your clarifications on the Talmud. Very different indeed from the Quran. Of course there is bigotry and racism in every race and creed. Fortunately, there are also voices of reason, respect and compassion.
    I for one, have never believed, or seen evidence of an historic ‘Palestinian’ people in the first place.
    And I agree that the so-called Palestinian problem, is a PR/taqiyya cover for the greater Islamic jihad, thereby giving them UN approved justification to commit attrocity after attrocity.

  8. Posted by: ex-liberal at March 16, 2007 10:59 AM
    Remember Jesus is a Jew!!! When you hate Jews you hate Jesus remember that!!!!
    All the land on earth belongs to our creator: but ours to USE!
    When we become civilized; mother’s will see their kids grow old like they should and play with their grand kids too!!!!
    Why do we make life so difficult: we are smatter then that.

  9. “Israel is a theocratic democracy; it has an official religion and it wishes its citizens to be, in the majority, members of that religion. ”
    Oh, ET, how ignorant can one person be. Please do not talk about things you do not understand.
    I was born in Israel, grew up on a Kibutz in the Jordan valley. We had no synagogue on the Kibuts, however, we did have many bomb shelters. I spent the first two years of my life in a bomb shelter because the Palestinians were bombing my Kibutz daily from the Jordanian border. They did that until king Hussein had enough of them and in the “black September” drove them out of his country. Only then I got to sleep in a normal bed, in a room above the ground.
    Let me tell you something about Israel: it is a secular country, surely more secular than Canada. Where I grew up, and I am almost 40, a couple who did not live together before getting married was considered weird. My father was a communist who believed that religion was an opium for the masses. My grandfather on my mother side was doing anti- religious actions in public, such as eating in Yom Kippur, because he lost ALL of his family in the houlocast, and did not believe there can be god in such a nasty world where that can happen. My father and my grandfather are but two examples of the general mood among many Israelis.
    May I bring to your attention that Israel recognizes gay marriage (one of just a few countries in the whole world to do so), allows gays to adopt children, and is the “most advanced and tolerant in the Middle East in terms of gay rights, and indeed one of the most tolerant in the whole world”. This is a quote from Wikipedia, you can read it yourself at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_rights_in_Israel. In fact, many Palestinian gays find refuge in Israel after being prosecuted in Gaza and the West bank. Israel is also a world leader in stem cell research. A religious country would not allow that. No Israeli prime minister has ever been religious. Compare that with the US, where the last ten presidents have all been a born again Christians. A Israeli PM would never say “god bless Israel”. Never.
    A person becomes Jewish by the simple fact that he is born to a Jewish mother. Nobody asks him what he believes in. Just like one becomes Japanese by being born to Japanese parents. It has to do with nationality, not with religion.
    And although the Palestinians were bombing my home, and although I have been a witness to a suicide bombing, and although when my children were born I could not leave the hospital without a gas mask for them (that’s the law in Israel – every citizen must have a gas mask at home for the case of a chemical attack) – I was not educated to hate Palestninas, or Arabs or Muslims. Sorry to dissapoint you here. When the Oslo accords began, they won my full support, and although it turn out that we were cheated by the Palestinians, I still think we should give them a state (and BTW – so does the current prime minister and most of the Israeli public), not because they deserve it, but for the slight chance that we may gain one day some peace and quite, for the even slighter chance that my children will not have to serve in the army.

  11. i agree Alice. Kids should play have fun,be free and safe to do so!
    War is ugly: hate is negitive and life is to short!
    I hope the best for you and your family!!!!!!!

  12. I agree Alis. Kids should play have fun,be free and safe to do so!
    War is ugly: hate is negitive and life is to short!
    I hope the best for you and your family!!!!!!!

  13. I just rechecked for information on the Talmud. There is a site which counters the slanderous Talmud Unmasked – it is a geocities site – actually called the “Talmud exposed”. I won’t post the exact address because I think they get held up, but it is geocities Athens/Cypress/8815 called:
    A truth-based response to:
    “THE TALMUD: JUDAISM’S HOLIEST BOOK DOCUMENTED AND EXPOSED”
    also known as
    “TALMUD UNMASKED”
    alis, I hope ET reads your post – maybe you could send it directly to her

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