Montague and his wife Donna were charged in 2004 for their deliberate refusal to comply with firearms paperwork which they believe to be an unwarranted threat to their freedom, privacy and property.
Calvin Martin QC will be presenting the Montagues’ arguments to Justice John Wright.
“After over a decade fighting Bill C-68 at all levels of government, we’re excited to present a strong case to strike this expensive, ineffective and contradictory legislation off our books” said Martin.
“This is very costly and personally draining” says Donna Montague. “We really hope the courtroom will be packed with supporters demonstrating the concern of average citizens.”
The hearing will be held at Superior Court of Ontario in Kenora, Ontario at 2:00 pm, Monday. (March 12)
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I like the part where it says that even if you are in full compliance with all the clauses and stipulations and requirements ….. the authorities can still find you in breach and seize the firearms and lay charges.
wow, what a bonanza for cops and lawyers and judgey judges and corrections system.
full compliance and they STILL get to say youre in breach of the law.
Bruce had tried to get arrested for over 2 years prior to the unexpected “raid” of his residence and business in 2004.
Bruce traveled to Ottawa and publicly burned his firearms licence and his registration certificates( he had complied with the law) then made written declarations to the ministry that he was in posession of unregistered firearms which he had owned peacefully for many years.
The charges after the raid, purposely avoided Bruce’s intent to be charged under the sections of the code that prohibits ownership without registration…they hit him with dozens of trumped-up petty counts of unsafe storage and magazine capacity infractions…regulatory infractions…but the die was set and when the feds saw he was serious about a charter challenge they poured the heat on him and his family…
…police intimidation, threatening to seize his home as “procedes of crime” ( so he could not mortgage it to buy legal help)…then they stalled by putting the trial dates back (hoping the registry-dismantling Harper government would be out of power by the time this made it to appeal)
Watching the whole sad story unfold over the years, I am saddened at the vindictive and malicious nature of the gun bureaucrats, the Ontario justice department and the OPP policy wonks who staged this “gooning” of a solid citizen and his family ( done purely as a favor to the anti-gun Martin government’s election platform)….all over the petty politics of the Librano political gun registry hobby-horse….damn them! Partisan politics is bad enough but when you see it in the justice and police functions it is so much more insidious.
What strike me is the heated vengance of law enforcement against this man and his family almost as though they had a personal stake in this issue. Does law enforcement nake the laws? Or is it just that the old saying is true, “the only difference between criminals and police is that one has a license to use their gun.”
Where is the constitutional challenge fund? Let it fund one more case.
Spike,
I suspect that the ‘constitutional challenge fund’ would never have accepted the Montague case for funding.
Only approved special interest types were being funded.
Same sex cases as an example.
Gun owners would not have been acceptable, is my best guess.
My wish is that the Montague’s win the day.
Few, if any, street level cops actually support the gun registration as most find it has done little or nothing to decrease gun violence among the criminal element. However despite whatever their personal feelings may be on the issue they can’t pick and choose what laws they’ll enforce. If you don’t like the law perhaps the best way to combat it is to vote against those who support it and for those that will do away with it. Yes, the police brass and the judiciary have become politicized and the persaveness of the agenda of over regulation is astounding, but to suggest this has become a “bonanza” for the police is incorrect and detracts from the real issue. The laws don’t acheive their purpose which is to decrease gun violence. Instead they have criminalized ordinary taxpayers. The laws must be changed and those that support them not voted into power. What’s the desired effect here? If you want to hammer the cops on this one fine but you may find you’re undermining many that support your position. Remember cops vote too.
Remember that line from Joni Mitchell’s song, “Don’t it always seem to go, That you don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone”?
Canadians, especially the MSM, don’t seem to realize how hard fought are our freedoms , and how delicate the system that keeps them in place.
We have lobby groups in this Country, representing every “cause” in the alphabet, but few protecting us from the creeping socialism that has pervaded this Country for the last 35 years.
Canadians are great at apathy, and fail utterly to understand the underlying principle of the American Constitution, that governments are not our parents, have to be held in a system with checks and balances, and have to be overseen with a suspicious eye.
Power corrupts, and we have more and better evidence of that here, than in probably any developed Country on earth. From 1993 to 2006, we were ruled by banana republic dictators, the treasury was looted, to what extent we’ll never know. Canada became the private playing field of a small cabal of billionaires, and their hand picked puppets, who treated us with the contempt we deserved.
The few voices of dissent came from Western Canada, and were quickly shouted down as the ravings of redneck hillbillies. “Don’t worry, the Great White Father in Ottawa will take care of us all.”
One of the most important factors in a free society is the right to own property, and the seizure of firearms is nothing more than the government stealing from its citizens.
The MSM did its level best to portray gun owners in a most negative light, not unlike the way European totalitarian regimes have portrayed religious minorities in the past. The vast majority of Canadians fell for it hook, line, and sinker. Gun owners became pariahs.
After a lull in the storm, while the left gathers its collective breath, we’ve started down the same road again, this time the Holy Mantra is Global Warming/Climate Change. And once again Canadians will sleep peacefully, secure in the knowledge that Mommy and Daddy gubmint will love and protect us all.
Half of this country deserve the epithet “sheeple”, maybe it’s time the rest of us got as nasty as the GW/CC activists. We’re losing our freedom to strident opportunists, might as well go down fighting.
I despaired for our freedom more than any time I can remember, the days Conrad Black sold his newspapers to the Liberal Asper holdings and Mark Steyn also quit the National Post.
Canadian MSM is now nothing but essential socialistic left leaning, green, and Big L Liberal lickspittle in their collective corporate souls.
Canada needs a FOX News type medium in Canada now.
Sadly until that happens we have as Canadians no hope of a true conservative / libertarian media voice.
Face it!
Joe wrote:
I despaired for our freedom more than any time I can remember, the days Conrad Black sold his newspapers to the Liberal Asper holdings and Mark Steyn also quit the National Post.
Canadian MSM is now nothing but essential socialistic left leaning, green, and Big L Liberal lickspittle in their collective corporate souls.
Canada needs a FOX News type medium in Canada now.
Sadly until that happens we have as Canadians no hope of a true conservative / libertarian media voice.
Face it!
JOE….I BELIEVE THAT THE BLOGISFIER (sp) WILL BE THE SAVIER OF CONSERVITIVE WAY OF THOUGHT & WAY OF LIFE. AS MULDER WOULD SAY “THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE” AND IT SURE IS NOT GIVEN BY THE MSM.
“What strike me is the heated vengance of law enforcement against this man and his family almost as though they had a personal stake in this issue”
they do, they just love to be able to intimidate those who will stand up to cops, and bill C-68 is just such a tool, one that is just as, if not more so, at intimidation as that peestola strapped to their hip
“Sadly until that happens we have as Canadians no hope of a true conservative / libertarian media voice. ”
libertarians are just socialist with a different spin on monies
dmorris said:
“Half of this country deserve the epithet “sheeple”, maybe it’s time the rest of us got as nasty as the GW/CC activists. We’re losing our freedom to strident opportunists, might as well go down fighting.”
Barry Goldwater said (wikiquote):
“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”
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This will be a test too see if we really do have a Conservative government or only just another consumptive group of users with no plan to change anything but outward appearance.
This was a basic platform promise of Harpers to end the gun registration & its odious implications. If they are not freed of any charge, than all the work to bring sanity back to government has become for not. It will have just turned out to be another group of crooks or professional politico’s displacing an even worse crew.
Just my opinion.
Revnant Dream said: “This will be a test too see if we really do have a Conservative government or only just another consumptive group of users with no plan to change anything but outward appearance.”
Absolutely! The right of non-criminal civilian firearms access is a corner stone of british commonlaw civil liberty and the bulwark of the right to armed self defense…it isn’t about duck hunting or target shooting…it’s about the fundamental right to defend yourself against armed aggression from criminals when and if the police cannot be present to interceed…..in a larger sense the right to civil firearms ownership is also a sign of a healthy democracy where the police-state has not claimed a monopoly on the justified use of defensive deadly force….the only licence you should need to exercise this right is a Canadian citizenship.
Harper and Day have failed their commitment to the CPC membership who made it clear at the policy convention they wanted licencing and registration scrapped and replaced by a simple police background check and a one time issued certificate of compliance.
If you had read Harper’s bil C-21 you will realize the compromise is so vast that all that has been done to C-68 is the dropping of a requirement to have a paper registry certificate in your possession….all the onerous and unconstitutional portions of the law remain intact.
With a court stacked with Liberals, I doubt that there will be much change.
Joe wrote: “I despaired for our freedom more than any time I can remember, the days Conrad Black sold his newspapers to the Liberal Asper holdings and Mark Steyn also quit the National Post.
Canadian MSM is now nothing but essential socialistic left leaning, green, and Big L Liberal lickspittle in their collective corporate souls.”
D, Morris adds: “The MSM did its level best to portray gun owners in a most negative light, not unlike the way European totalitarian regimes have portrayed religious minorities in the past. The vast majority of Canadians fell for it hook, line, and sinker.”
Perhaps the reason public disarmament and other elitist socially engineerd mollification projects are promoted as “progressive” by the corporate media… and why the many flaws in so much autocratic legislating are blacked out in our media, can be explained by a revealing comment made by one of the global elite who pull the corporate Media’s strings:
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years….It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
(David Rockefeller – Bilderberg Meeting – June 1991 – Baden, Germany)
I read more and more criticism of Harper on this blog all the time. In this case eliminating the stupid gun registry. Remember he does not have a majority to allow him to get rid of these idiotic liberal make-work laws. You saw how the Liberal Senate has forced him to make changes to good legislation and even then tie it up for months. He has to pick his battles or do things in incremental stages. Witness the gutting of the Security Act by the other parties.
It really bugs me when we conservatives won’t cut our leaders some slack and constantly eat our own. The Liberals don’t care what their party does, they always blindly support it. I don’t want us to do that but unless we support Harper for the long haul and get a majority to get rid of so much Liberal crap we will become the back-stabbing, disorganized opposition wandering in the wilderness once again.
oh the great esteemed cops in favour of the registry.
ppffffftttttt.
what is it that REALLY works?
nuclear deterrence.
(covered previously, I will quickly recap)
– motivation,
– credibility and
– communication.
the Montagues are certainly motivated, they need to fill in the other 2 legs of the tripod.
If we want the Lieberal gun control laws replaced with sensible firearms laws, we first have to put a conservative majority government in place. Without a majority Harper can’t change the law.
I must agree with Joe Molnar that the msm in this country are 85% creepy slimers who subvert all citizen’s Rights issues with contempt and denigration. They are beyond contempt.
The journalists that I went to University with did not pass if they did not spout and spew Communist propaganda from both nostrils and their yaps. After awhile I dropped all these types from my communication list because they were very dull; not just boring but they were stupid and repetitive. I did not ever even contemplate that people would listen to them – or, even wilder, believe them!!
The people I grew up with were not University grads but they were always interesting and they always had new ideas that sounded exciting! My grandad devised a car trunk to carry calves around in – if new calves were born in a prairie blizzard they had to be rescued; my grandad was 75 and he found it pretty hard to carry a new calf on his saddle in a blizzard. A colt kicked out the back seat in his new car so he made his new car into a van sort of thing. I found innovative thinking very interesting and I thought everyone did things like that – I was pretty far wrong!
Gun ownership, like land ownership, was a given in those days – it was Turdo in his ‘scrap of paper’ (Charter of rules and restrictions) that ruined that freedom to think. My Dad kept a loaded shotgun in our stairwell at all times; my brothers and I were told not to touch it unless we intended to use it – we never touched it but we did know how to use it. I thought all people knew how to shoot a gun.
I would like to donate some money to Bruce and his family for their fight against the Liberanos. If they loose this case then we need to demand an election right away – I know the minority Conservatives cannot rid the country of the albatross C68 without a majority. If the Liberano/Dipper outfit win the election it would signal that there is no hope for the nation of Canada; those of us who like Freedom could all move to the west and the Liberano/Dipper people could move east. This country has put the Right to OWN Property in limbo for benefit of the communist type billionaire elitists who want state enslavement ( the first move that Absolute power mongers make is to disarm the citizens – see Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Edward II…..it is not rocket sciece to figure out that the Liberanos ‘plan’ to disarm the citizens was a plan to enslave the citizens of a free nation – some people are too insecure to live as freemen/women so they should be in their own pen -IMO) We must draw a line in the sand before it is too late.
David Hand and Grumpy have it figured out. People have to realize that many years of lieberal BS can’t be fixed overnight with a minority government and it sure as hell won’t get fixed if the lieberals get back in because we want instant results.
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I know Bruce Montague’s lawyer, Cal Martin, from a past involvement
in competition shooting. He is an honourable man and a tireless
defender of individual freedoms.
I’m sure Cal would be willing to accept donations in trust for defending this case.
* Tel (416) 922-5854
* Fax (416) 944-0285
* Email Calvin Martin, Q.C., LL.B
* snail mail
Calvin Martin, Q.C., LL.B
600 Church Street
Toronto, Ontario, M4Y 2E7
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Let’s not forget why the gun registry was created.An islamic fundamentalist loser murdered 14 women. He figured these hateful woman with clitoris intact were holding him back,so he killed them. The liberals had to do something so instead of tightening up our immigration laws which would have upset thier large power base of immigrants,they went after hunters,farmers,sportsmen,etc. These people are largely conservatives,so no big loss to the party.Years later,Dion strikes down terrorist laws and the islamic fundamentalists celebrate in our streets,in Canada.I am not making this up. We have mass murder #1,air india,and mass murder#2,montreal massacre,both have a liberal taint surrounding them. PM Harper and the ROC outside of GTA need a majority gov’t.
Ditto with Rob C’s comments. With a minority gov’t and lieberal senate and supreme court, PMSH has to pick his battles carefully for a while. All the real good work done so far can be erased by one “redneck” decision and a MSM pile-on. Remember that the average voter is a gullable, easily fooled, short memory sheep. Sad but true.
For those wishing to donate to the Bruce Montague defence fund, the website BruceMontague.ca has a link near the top right-hand corner (click on the Donate button). All major credit cards, or PayPal accepted.
@ the Bear
Ordinarily I would agree that the court being stacked with Liberals would be bad for Mr. Monatgue, the problem they face is the decision they make will set precidents for future charter cases. If for example it is Ok to jail a citizen for five years for losing a piece of paper it is hard to say you can’t hold a terrorist for 72 hours when he is on his way to murder people. That is why the crown is trying so hard to drag it out and keep it from being a charter case. The judges will be caught in a catch 22 if it gets to the SCoC. The provincial challenge was easy for them to laugh at, cause they just gave more power to the feds. This one not so easy.
RobC, Hand and Grumpy:
I’m inside on this issue ( believe me I am) and what we have telegraphed to us from the CPC firearms stake holder’s group is NOT what was given to the party caucus as a member supported policy….nor is it what was promised to firearms owners by CPC firearms advocates.
I would rather see C-21 withdrawn than acted on s it is an insult to our intelligence.
I’m not making condemnations…YET…I’m saying that what we got is not what was promised nor is it what the Party membership had adopted as policy. Minority position noted….but the signals coming from inside on this issue are leaving a lot of people feeling betrayed.
I’m on Harper watch…this westerner/gun owner/Reformer has been lied to by the best of ’em…PC, Liberal and Reform alike…if Harper does the right thing, then I will be amazed….compromise is soooo much more easy to accomplish.
It will be a first. I’m willing tho give them that chance but I’m not optomistic based in a long past experience interfacing with federal politicians on this issue.
It is a fact that the first thing the Liberals will do if they had a majority is ban civilian ownership of firearms creating millions of paper criminals and a civil non compliance level unseen in Canada since alcohol prohibition…so certainly we can’t vote for Librano despotism and social balkanization.
It just gauls me that we are back to the same compromised ideals ith the CPC as we were with the Muldoom PCs…the attitude being that Firearms owners will vote for them regardless of how compromised their policy is…because they are the only game in town…it just reeks of status quo fed political manipulation….something we had hoped Harper would rid the process of….it will be back to going into the polls holding your nose and voting for the party which will damage you least.
I haven’t given up hope…I’m just have jaundiced optics (from past experience looking at what politicians will actually do to eleviate the criminal code entanglement that lawful firearms owners have been oppressed with… with these recent CPC compromises it seems the pattern repeats itself.
BTW: It’s unhealthy for democracy and your party to let bad or compromised policy or political moves in the caucus go uncriticized or unacted upon…Harper is not infallible and I sure as hell don’t trust the politics of the people handling him. I’ll have may say and I won’t be hushed up in party ranks for it….THAT is what you would expect of the despotic Librano cartel.
Yeah the buricrats make you sign a stack of papers 25 feet high and when you,ve done that they bring you another stack of papers 30 feet high
WL Mackenzie Redux ( you gotta shorten that title upbuddy) I can see where you are comming from when it comes to trusting politicians. You are correct in your opinion of picking the lesser of the evils, I truly hope that Harper doesn’t give me reason to do so. It sucks not knowing untill after the fact.
Politicians will always do what will get them the greatest number of votes.
Harper is a politician.
The majority of Canadians have a pathological fear of guns.
Harper will do nothing. Besides, he has bigger fish to fry.
I salute Montague’s great efforts on behalf of freedom. I fear he will be frustrated and wind up very bitter in the end.
At the rate we are going in this country, only the police and criminals will guns. The rest of us will no longer be known as consumers or citizens, but rather hapless victims mugged and robbed by criminals and intimidated by police … and we will deserve it.
I think more than any previous Government, the Harper Conservatives are reading their mail. If the public pressure seems to stear them one way they will comply.
I think duck hunters have gone back to sleep. I have written 2 letters to my MP on gun control related initiatives I have heard of and received a reply from the pertinent ministry.
Last indication I got from my gun club was they were afraid of being too political as it irritated some members! Our club has a huge contingent of identifiable minority members who I’m sure think all is well in the Librano camp. There is a letter posted from the LPC which says that the Gun Ban Policy Initiative that passed at the Convention was rescinded by the executive later. Doubt they have that power. If anyone can find some info on this, I will see if I can get it posted on the bulletin board. We have to kick the tires and get the bus rolling again.
I get occasional hints that both the NDP and Libranos have lured many duck hunters back into the fold.
” robbed by criminals and intimidated by police … and ”
for me it was “robbed by criminals” and when I reported the theft, “laughed at by police”
now when things happen like the drug cop in laval getting shot dead, I google the phone number or in this case the mailing address and tell them “un autre flic mort !!! tres bon!!!! tres humoreaux !!!! tres tres humoreaux !!!”
I got no use for cops, Ive been showing the story all around town how they beat up a frail 76 year old philanthropist in his own home and wound up with a nice fat million + lawsuit on their hands.
thugs with badges.
gang boys I can deal with, they understand retaliation; cops just call for backup.
but when nuclear deterrence fails, it must, MUST morph into nuclear retaliation.
I cant stop cops from coming after my ass for ‘fraud’ on the word of a petty thief who took off with a stolen television, mountain bike, library materials, and owed money to the welfare agency for misleading them; on the other hand, the cops cant stop me from retaliating 100 fold.
how much grief and havoc can be purchased on the open ‘market’ for 60 or 70 grand minus legal fees?
I simply detest cops more than anything I ever have or will, they seem to want it that way like they have this ‘game’ they play called ‘lets see how many citizens we can piss off this week’. and then demand more and more money so they can ‘do their job’.
I called the windsor hqts when that cop got shot dead in a botched convenience store robbery and told them how funny I thought it was and why.
how much audacity does it take to LAUGH IN THE FACE of a victim of robbery? hmmmm??? wtf is that?
oh by the way, I have decided to braodcast the HOME ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER of the superintendant of uniformed division, check it out, call him up, tell him its about the stolen-barbeque-laughing-cops thing again.
supt rob brown, london city po-‘lice’ home phone 519-471-9331. lives at 1053 thornley. wonder if any the local ruffians might like to have that tidbit of information?
see what happens o copper when you throw away YEARS of goodwill for a godam cheap laugh?
any time a cop in canuckistan gets SHOT DEAD I look up the phone number of that jurisdiction, call them up, and LAUGH IN THEIR FACE.
har har har cop. who tf is laughing now ?????
you think its realllll funny when people get the equivalent of a whole weeks wages toted out their back yard in broad daylight?????
is that what you say to the management at the big box stores when they call you in once a week on a shoplifter ???? ‘geee, gotta be more caaaaaaareful who ya let in the stooooorrrre’
har har har cops well who tf is laughing now ???? hmmm ???? still think its ‘funny’ when I get property stolen despite having been so careful the previous 55 years I never had to report a theft???? a suspect, witness and a lead, still not good enough. FOUR GODAM TIMES I had to show up at 601 dundas before they cared so much to open the incident report. I got that number memorized too.
oh ya, cops here in the biggest hick town in north america think its reaaaaallllll funny when you get a brand new $500 barbeque stolen in broad daylight.
Robert: So you call up cop shops and laugh at their loss of a coworker in the line of duty, because you were laughed at when you reported a b&e?
You need help.
Robert, there are jerks and great people in every profession. Sure there are cops that are bad, but that doesn’t define them as a whole. Every cop is either a father, mother, sister, brother, son, or daughter to someone and to wish that kind of grief upon them because you were burned is very distrubing.
“So you call up cop shops and laugh at their loss of a coworker in the line of duty”
heck even the off duty ones.
I have also offered if any of them break under the stress of the job (a large part of which THEY create for themselves doing this kind of intolerable act) and turn their glock on themselves, then I will pay for the bullets. that usually gets a charge out of them. then periodically I mosey downtown handing out dozens of the reprint about 76 yrs old John Sharpe who got beat up and dragged off to jail without so much a pair of shoes, entitled by me ‘is no one safe??’. I do this right under their noses and they can tell by the expression on my face Im just itching to make it personal with them.
some screw got slammed into head on and killed in peel region about 2 months ago so they got the laugh track treatment, and another one just got killed in a snowmobile accident, where wuz that one… anyway they all get the local departments phone number 5196615670 and an invitation to call in and remind the laughers here just why THEY got the call.
I have never been so offended in 50 years that the cops think its ‘funny’ when a citizen gets robbed.
periodically I drop by brandishing my cell phone with its voice recording feature and remind them if they EVER try that again I will call brown right from the lobby as they watch and then they get to tell HIM what is so godam ‘funny’.
in any workplace the 5-5-90 rule applies.
– 5% are the brilliant innovators and driving force of the organization.
– 5% are the pilferers and sick time maxers and goofoffs.
– 90% clock in, do only what theyre paid to do and then rush for the door at quitting time.
with cops its the 5-95 rule
5% are so good they can conceal this fact from the other 95% who are arrogant worse-than-useless shytheads who sign up in hopes of being able to beat up people legally.
I cant be bothered anymore figuring out which group the dipwad on the other side of the counter or phone or whatever is part.
so for me its the 0-100 rule; 100% of them are assholes and I’m merely holding a mirror right in THEIR face.
they didnt have to laugh but felt free to do so; that is quite true, they got away with it, it was an essential contributing factor.
in 50 years of dealing with bullies, thieves, punks, sheisters, detractors, goofballs in elected office and elsewhere, I had NEVER been so incensed as to get LAUGHED AT by a couple prycks with badges.
well the vitriol seems to be having the desired effect, they havent done it again but I am ready this time.
the only ‘help’ Im gonna need is documented sources whenever I set up ‘serveandprotectwho.ca’ which will be devoted to ripping into cops and all their incompetance and malfeasance in a forum whre the whole WORLD can see how the 5-95 rule applies.
they want it this way and they got it. nuclear deterrence sirrah, it worked with the bullies in grade 4 and it worked for the US of A in the cold war and its working for Israel right now and its still working for me.
more ‘humor in uniform’
this is the exact fax sent to lambton opp following the ransacking of the home of 2 opp cops:
the ‘har har hars’ are sized up to go right across the page.
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fax to lambton opp sent by fax Monday @ 3:00 a.m. har har har !!!
re London Free Press Saturday march 10 front page:
‘trashing officer’s home ‘hate crime’
15198821014
you know what the cops here in london think is real funny?
stolen property. especially when reported in the wee hours when
no one is looking except the victim (that would be me)
they think its so funny they laughed in my face.
“at least the thief isnt around anymore chortle chortle”
couldn’t even keep the ‘joke’ to themselves, gotta send a message to the victim of a $500 theft.
so you know what I think is vastly more humorous?
you guessed it, two of your colleagues getting their home
TRASHED TO THE TUNE OF 40,000 FUKIN DOLLARS.
HAR HAR HAR
now you all OPP ‘O’fficially ‘P’ronounced ‘P’ricks have a nice day ya hear !!
HAR HAR HAR
signed, the guy whut got the barbeque stolt ‘har har har’
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all they had to do is keep their little ‘joke’ to themselves but no, they gotta put it out there RIGHT IN MY FACE. ” the medium is the message” and in this case the “medium” was the communication from london cops to little ol’ missing barbeque me. and the message was “we think this is extraordinarlity FUNNY so, we’re going to laugh RIGHT IN YOUR FACE and there’s nothing you can do about it”
well, right in a way, nothing *at the time* I could do, but since then have had the opportunity to tear a huge chunk off the ass of about a half dozen of them. and it feels REAL GOOD.
and you people wonder why I have such a bad ‘attitude’? whose looking at THEIR ‘attitude’ ????
“to wish that kind of grief upon them because you were burned ”
wrongo el starko and you know it.
getting ‘burned’ ie getting the property stolen WASNT the final straw, this kind of reception happens LOTS; it was their *reaction* that ‘burned’ me.
it ISN’T just a couple ‘bad cops’. this behaviour is endemic. they do it as part of some ‘bonding’ thing to show they’re gonna ‘go along to get along’ with their buddies. and the unwritten unspoken rule is your treat the public like DIRT when out of the glare of the crowd. there, now theyre all in the same boat. now none of the cops gets to ‘rat out’ another cop for this atrocious behaviour because, well, THEY ALL DO IT.
‘all in it together’ ie ye olde *male bonding ritual* crap.
so I just feel now the time has come to dish out to them a taste of their own medicine.
maybe they’ll think hard next time they get the ‘urge’ to treat a citizen with such unwarranted callousness.
in the mean time I get to have all the fun hammering the lesson home.
This seems have gotten desparately off topic and turned into a healing circle and bash the cops thread.
This AM let’s all hope that a principled Canadian is successful in recovering his lost property and rights from a charter challenge in the courts.
This breakfast orange juice is raised in a toast to you Bruce Montague…for going though the pain, suffering and dread of being right when the government is wrong and sticking to your principles….unlike sunshine patriots and compromised politicians.
You show us all what responsible citizenship is and you shame the blowhards in parliament who only pay lip service to civil rights.
Robert Bullocks. Not only are you completely off topic, you’re becoming an asshat. Cool it. This is not your private anti-police rant site.
Bollocks: You’re a really disturbed individual. Get help.
Why do you hate the police? Or, is it possible to support the police on the ground but to hate the mission assigned to them by their superiors? Hmmmm….
Robert Bullocks:
You are angry, and you have that right.
But you also seem to have a lot of energy that could be channeled into more productive activities.
I share your anger, my friend. I live 150 miles south of Fort Mc Murray, aka “Coke Capital ” of Alberta. Boomtimes can be a real bitch!
But my real point is that in my small town we “RAISE” the sort that will visit empty homes and help themselves to someone elses property. Little c&nts that are “too young” for the “system”. Progeny of whores that bang out kids with no “decent” male role model in their lives, is part of the problem. Unwed mothers used to be cause for shame, these days it’s a mealticket for social services picking up the tab.
That’s only a small part of what’s bugging me, but really man, do something constructive. You’ll feel better.
Never mind the other posters, let us know when, or if things improve where you are. We all could use some of that good news.
Bruce needs a lot of support. Some of the gun owners not really familiar with the cause consider him a criminal and feel they need to distanciate from him, needless to say the sheeple, if at all aware of the trial, feels the same.
Can someone give an update on what happened at the hearing? There are a lot of people who are currently being bullied by the Firearms Registry staff who want to know if the threats they received have any validity.
I heard the story of a man in ill who used a gun to shoot a armed crinimal and then gets sent to jail by a bunch of village idiots who run the village
Bruce needs a lot of support. Some of the gun owners not really familiar with the cause consider him a criminal and feel they need to distanciate from him
AMEN and anyone who wants to help him, go to his site, BRUCEMONTAGUE.ca . You can make donations there.
To most of the “box a year” gun-owners out there, just remember… you’re not doing much for protecting your property. Like us or loath us, it’s the “box a week” (or more when I can afford it!) guys and girls at the range, with our “evil” looking firearms and PISTOLS, that are taking the legal fight to our adversaries, and pushing for our RIGHTS (not “priviledges”)
Feel free to join us though!