How will the liberals respond to the spanking canada got from the UN for allowing safe injection sites, and accusing Canada of encouraging the illicit drug trade. Remember the outrage from them when PMSH talked of defunding said sites. Guess our PM was right, and this will give him the moral highground to shut them down.
After all, isn’t it the liberals who support everything the UN says and does.
Calgary Sun : Feb 23, 2007
Go big, Charest
By LICIA CORBELLA
“Quebec, Quebec, Quebec. Blah, blah, blah. It’s always about Quebec. Fifty stinking years of Quebec blackmailing this country with it’s limp threat to separate.”
That’s how an e-mail sent to me yesterday began. It was written by a man who asked to be described as Jacques, “a former Quebecer and long-time proud Albertan.”
His letter referred in particular to Quebec Premier Jean Charest’s Wednesday election call and how that tidbit of info dominated the news cycle and likely will long after the polls close on March 26. In contrast, other provincial election calls usually garner a brief mention on national newscasts.
True enough. That’s the reality in Canada. What Quebec does and what Quebec wants leads the agenda.
That the election call came one day after the feds announced a March 19 budget day leaves many non-Quebecers feeling cynical about the timing and most Albertans fearing Prime Minister Stephen Harper is going to break another election promise and change the equalization formula that determines how much so-called “have not” provinces get from “have” provinces.
Undoubtedly, Charest has been promised by Harper there will be good news for Quebec in the federal budget.
How much good news is the question.
Many non-Albertans believe the wild rose province is “greedy” and doesn’t share its wealth. It is an unfair perception based on ignorance.
According to Alberta MLA Ted Morton, since 1961, Alberta has contributed $220 billion net to the rest of Canada and during that same period Quebec raked in $211 billion net in equalization transfers.
What has that bought us? It certainly hasn’t purchased unity.
There is really only one way to end the neverendum threat — by Jean Charest winning the election then promptly holding a referendum to end all referendums.
If Charest wants to be more than just the boy simply stalling the inevitable tide of separatist fervour, or at least the eventual change of government to a separatist one, he should hold a referendum.
Many people will say holding another referendum would be tempting fate.
However, the difference with a referendum held by Charest as opposed to a nationalist government would be the question asked. The wording of the 1995 referendum question was impossible to understand:
“Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign, after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new Economic and Political Partnership, within the scope of the Bill respecting the future of Quebec and the agreement signed on June 12, 1995.”
Polls showed most Quebecers didn’t have a clue what that meant. The day before that fright night the vast majority of Quebecers actually believed a Yes vote would not mean Quebecers would lose their Canadian passports or any other Canadian benefit. They were duped.
With a voter turnout of 93%, the No side barely won, with 50.6% of the vote.
But that close call proved nothing. The question should be simple and to the point: Should Quebec separate from Canada? Yes or No?
Let Quebecers know what that entails. No passports, no disaster relief funding, no more federal government contracts and make-work projects, no more equalization, the removal of federal property from Quebec, including many art works and archives, etc.
Such a referendum is the only way Canada can be assured the blackmail will end. The Clarity Act is supposed to ensure a clear question is asked, but the PQ have already declared they will frame any question they want and will assume yes means yes. How would we stop them?
It’s not likely Charest will hold a referendum, but for those of us in the ignored regions, it’s a nice dream to contemplate since it helps tune out the interminable blah, blah, blah of Quebec, Quebec, Quebec.
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When I post a comment on most of the so-called “progressive” blogs…
I have come to expect to see the message that, “comments must be
approved” by the owner of the blog. When I see the same message
at a “conservative” site…
I am always a little surprised and disappointed.
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Tim Blair makes fun of lefties:
W3.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21313210-5001031,00.html
Samples:
June 21, 2046
Dinner with Necrosis at that new place, Anemia. Had the gravel salad (yum!) and corn stalks, but Necrosis said her bug froth was overboiled.
February 17, 2065
If you ask me, the debate about global warming is over. I can’t believe denialists are still disputing the science of speculative global warming prediction. It says a lot about their arguments that they rely so much on “evidence”. I just wish global warming would get here a little faster, so my ethical biodome roofing business would finally turn a profit. Or attract a customer.
Stephen Harper lies in the House of Commons, makes deliberately false accusations about individual MPs in order to score partisan political points: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2007/03/harpers-lies-are-new-low.html
Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 1:26 PM
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Liberal supporters aghast at alleged “lies.” The world never ceases to amaze and amuse.
Hmmm. Pat Martin (NDP) just called the government fascists and stated that they were worse than Mussolini. This was right at the end of the CWB debate today. Don’t think the NDP will be able to complain about decorum in the house after that.
I’ll be checking Hansard to see the exact wording once available.
I take it from your comment Matt that you are neither aghast nor surprised by Harper’s lies.
This really is a new low. Say what you will about the Liberals (and little has been left unsaid here), I can’t recall any former Prime Minister, including Mulroney, lying about other MPs like that, deliberately trying to impugn their reputations with outright falsehoods. The worst I think you could say they ever did was get their underlings to say mean things about the opposing side.
And there is no alleged about it. Harper accuses two MPs of appointing their husbands to the immigration review panel, including the former Minister of Immigration. Problem is, in the first case, the former minister’s husband was actually appointed by Brian Mulroney and, in the other, she wasn’t even an MP!
Deciding you could never vote Liberal is one thing. Denying that Harper is getting more and more out of control, personally nasty and vicious is another thing altogether.
Was it just a Dream?
The other day i could have swore i responded to a CTV.ca poll re: the anti-terror sunset clause
the poll at the time had 69% in favor of the the anti terror act. I went back later to check results, But No Poll. Gone,Vanished, disappeared, Kaput.
Anyone, Anyone! was i just dreaming or was this another case of a poll gone horribly Wrong.
On another topic did anyone catch David McGuinty squirming last nite on CPAC when asked by Van Dusen if Dion is going to implement a Carbon Tax if he becomes the government.
Van Dusen was just losing it as McGuinty evaded, changed subjects did everything possible to Not Answer the Question, Yes or No.
I guess it runs in the family Brother Dalton answers the same way. Pinochio Twins.
Was this the poll you were looking foron CTV?
“Should the government have the right to hold non-citizens suspected of having terrorist ties indefinitely?”
The result was 63% yes, while 37% said no.
Bring back Kate.
“How will the liberals respond to the spanking canada got from the UN for allowing safe injection sites, and accusing Canada of encouraging the illicit drug trade. Posted by: mary T. at March 2, 2007 12:46 PM”
mary,
I used to tell everyone who would listen that so-called “safe injection sites” were a loony idea. But now that the UN is saying the same thing, I might have to change my mind.
check out today’s poll, the result’s so far are resoundingly for no, in regards to the question about Richmonds fire department.
You can’t spell unbelievable without UN.
I take it from your comment Matt that you are neither aghast nor surprised by Harper’s lies.
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Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 1:38 PM
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Ted, when you got up out of your chair and voted Liberal, you signalled that lying, cheating and stealing are all OK.
It’s a little late to huff and puff about it now.
So because you think some Liberals did some bad things in the past…. any Canadian citizen who voted for them in the past doesn’t have a say in the political process anymore? Is that what you mean Matt? We aren’t allowed to talk about how our government is performing? Is that what you are saying?
Just put up and shut up about Harper’s flip flops, lies, arrogance, and his gimmicky government of politics over policy?
Hey, remember the supreme court appt of cotliers wifes best friends husband. It is too bad so many liberal supporters believe everything PMSH says or does is a lie or flipflop, but can’t see any wrongs by the liberals during all their years in govt re appointments, stealing, flipflops, and are ready to excuse all these just for spite. But according to polls, things are starting to change.
Fixed that for you Ted…
Just put up and shut up about Chretien’s flip flops, lies, arrogance, and his gimmicky government of politics over policy?
I guess what goes around really does come around, since you apparently have PMSH Derangement Syndrome I can’t really trust anything you say. I will have to check this out myself. I am afraid that you have been crying WOLF for so long that even if you do tell the truth by mistake you won’t be believed….
How does an alleged wrong by the Liberals in the past mean Harper isn’t lying now?
Ted,
You can yammer on about it all you want. Nowhere did I ask that you shut your pie hole.
It’s just that I can’t take you and your complaints seriously.
I’m sure you’re a nice guy and all that, but when you start complaining about stuff that the Liberals are masters of, about stuff that you happily accepted when you voted for them, you aren’t credible.
Dion working on Carbon tax.
Dion said. “Oui waassted full year before been able to do enny ting. Zo I need revisit my own plan make sure dat it will work more spe dilly for Canadiens in order do our share of climate change and to have a strongest eh con me built on substainability, and dis is what I do’
CBCpravda did several days of why the vancouver safe injection sites were a good thing. now the UN the mighty UN has come out against it Pravda is quiet as a whore in church.
Regarding disappearing polls:
I do know that sometimes online polls get blitzed by a person or group of people with a certain agenda. And when this happens, it’s obvious by the number of votes deviating dramatically from the average number of votes in the polls typically, the website will often just take it down.
What I would suggest to CTV is that if this is the case they should make a note on their website when they do it. I know that CHQR radio will tell you when their poll results have been compromised and they are not going to report the results the next day.
I like “Ted”. It reassures us every time the “Teds” of the world post or comment, at how lucky we are to have the BT blogsphere for:
– real content (not one 10 word sentence with 8 swear words, at which the author clearly struggled to determine where the period went;
– perspective from the outside world;
– a sense of proportion.
Oh, and before I forget, Ted? Whatever Harper’s doing in the house is working just fine. So suck it up Princess, read the polls, and ask yourself a fundamental question: “why should Teddy be part of a bunch of leaderless losers?”.
Ted, on this issue, I agree with you. Harper should withdraw his remarks and apologize, and he will. Calling him a liar is another matter. Can you argue he knowingly (it-knew of Mulroney appointment), misrepresented himself in HoC?
Re: polls. Obviously Tories headed for majorityland; hence, the increasing rage against him and his “cultlike” leadership.
Haven’t heard from SES. They got last-minute voter intentions right last election. I would be interested in their take now.
It’s pretty astonishing to me how many so-called Harper supporters there are and none will defend Harper on this issue.
He is turning into (has always been?) a mean-spirited man. We say the worst of it yesterday when he attacked to opposition MPs – not even the leader – attacked their personal integrity and reputation with bald-faced lie.
He said they appointed their husbands to the immigration panel and they weren’t even there when it happened. One of them was in fact appointed by Brian Mulroney.
I don’t give a flying crap what you folk think about the Liberals or me. This Prime Minister lives in a lower and dirtier gutter than Chretien and he likes it.
Ted,
Not to hurt your feelings, but I don’t trust you. You could tell me that there was a major snow storm in Ontario yesterday and I’d be suspicious.
I instinctively reject anything where you are the messenger. I have no interest in your allegations. Your past behaviour (i.e., condoning Liberal lying, cheating, and stealing) tells me that you’re not a credible source.
It’s like getting a call in the middle of dinner from some telemarketer telling me I’ve been selected from thousands of people for this/that/the other thing.
I consider the source and reject it. Click.
“We are putting in place a new selection system so we do not have what we had before – like the member for Westmount-Ville-Marie (Robillard) appointing her former husband as a member of the board, like the husband of the member for Notre-Dame-de-Grâce-Lachine (Jennings) as a member of the board,” Harper said. He repeated the allegation in French, accusing Jennings, too, of making the appointment. http://www.thestar.com/News/article/187460
It will be up on Hansard soon.
Just call him Jean Harper. To the power of ten.
“I don’t give a flying crap what you folk think about the Liberals or me. This Prime Minister lives in a lower and dirtier gutter than Chretien and he likes it.”
Awww….teddy is having a hiisy fit.
That should be “hissy”.
Found It, I was not Dreaming afterall. However after reading the results the Liberals are most likely going to hope it was a dream as i can see the PM’s numbers going up again soon.
Tucked neatly on the CanadaAm Your say Comments section, Low & behold there it was Wed.Feb28, Strange thing is that there was not one comment on the poll, Not 1. Now would you not find that is really quite strange that not one person sent a comment.
yup just another poll gone wrong.
Question: Was the Defeat of the anti-terror Legislation the right thing for Canadians?
Results
76% NO
24% Yes
Another issue that Canadians will support the Government on & another that will come back to haunt Dion & Co for trashing the Bill.
while we are in the gutter.
wasnt it Jean Cretian that encountered the poor homeless man in the gutter on his walk to work.
no, thats right, he made that all up. but it was good press until they couldnt find such a person.
speaking of lies and deceit , when are the Libs going to pay back the $40 million they stole from the taxpayers?
Ted, get a grip on yourself, or something.
Your sounding awfully desperate.
The Conservatives will need at least a decade to clean the Liberal sleaze/corruption and profound
state of entitlement.
Harper is on his way to being the best Prime Minister we’ve had in memory.
He took a hit on the Income Trust file but he had the guts to do the right thing. That’s a Leader.
You won’t find him out promising all things to all
people to get votes. He has principle. We can expect fairness.
We’ll have an Armed Forces to protect us and our way of life at home and abroad, something the Liberals ignored for several decades.
The Liberals are out for the long term, get used to it. The people of this Country are not about to
give the reins of power to a Party divided and in
extreme state of flux.
Ted,
Wow man. Calm yourself down. Harper is here, will be for awhile so do not wear yourself out. He must be doing something right if he can work you up like this.
I do not understand this Jean Harper comment. I have seen it elsewhere or maybe it was just you. What is the point you are making with that name?
enough
A little quote from CBC-Pravda regarding the brutal CDN killers in Afghanistan. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/03/02/detainees-missing.html
“Poor record-keeping by Afghan guards or undocumented release, which occurs regularly and often as a result of bribes, could explain their disappearance. But they may have been tortured or killed.”
Translation: We don’t know what happened but our military is evil and full of killers.
How does an alleged wrong by the Liberals in the past mean Harper isn’t lying now?
Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 2:22 PM ”
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‘alleged’ ??????
where tf were you teddy when adscam hit the news ?????????
the plain brown envelopes stuffed with cash changing hands at the restaurant.
the lieberals ADMITTING they got some 10 mill out of it with a ‘garsh heh heh awwww shucks guys we’ll jess gives it back eh?’
jeezuz murphy you lieberals really believe all your own lies. a telltale sign of serious psychological impairment; you cant tell fantasy from reality.
“I do not understand this Jean Harper comment”
I think little teddy boy is trying in vain to compare screw face with our PM.
The point is that Harper is just Jean Chretien in blue. Partisanship over policy. Politics over priniciple.
Funny thing is, when Jean Chretien came into office after a corrupt government, he introduced then what were the toughest accountability measures ever. Was the first to introduce the very idea that all government contracts should go through a procurement process instead of just handed over to friends. And then after years the arrogance and corruption settled into the government.
Harper is an over achiever. He’s accomplished in 13 months an arrogance and disregard for Canadians that took the Liberals in 13 years to accomplish. No bid contracts to friendly firms. Partisan appointments to the judiciary. Lowering the level of debate in the House for partisan gain.
He probably will win the next election. Especially with all of the support and anti-Liberal/anti-Dion bias of the MSM these days.
But Chretien wasn’t a good PM just because he could beat the Conservatives and win elections. In fact, the ease with which he could do so actually made him more arrogant and a less good PM.
We’re seeing the same phenomena today with Jean Harper. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. Only his socks are blue.
Ted, sure is to bad you got yourself in a not over this, the Liberal’s haven’t proved it isn;t true what Harper said, they just crie like kids on a play ground anytime someone says something about them that may be considered slighly below the belt, Liberal’s like to dish out a lot od thing’s remeber the whole hidden agenda thing, they used that for 2 or 3 elections and there crying ususally leads me to believe that you must have struck a nerve when they wine like they do. If you are going to call people all the things that Liberal’s have called conservatives over the years and can’t take it when someone throws something back than you should stay out of politics
“He probably will win the next election. Especially with all of the support and anti-Liberal/anti-Dion bias of the MSM these days.”
MSM bias? Man, that was good for a laugh. The rest of your post is idiotic at best.
If anything there is generally a bias that is usually pretty Liberal freindly in the media
Bryan:
Hunh? What on earth are you talking about?
Kate opened this up to reader tips. Harper made the most outrageous of lies about the personal integrity of two MPs and I noted it. I think the hypersensitivity in your and other’s reaction is quite indicative of how vulnerable you realize he is.
And there is no question about his untruthfulness. He said that the former minister of immigration appointed her husband to the immigration review panel. That is a very strong ethics charge. Problem is, her husband was appointed by Mulroney. In the other lie, the other MP wasn’t even in Parliament.
So your guy isn’t perfect. So he turns out to be as corrupt and partisan and dirty pool as every single other politician who has ever been in government and held power. So the guy has shown that he is as desperate to hold onto that power as every other politician before him, Liberal included.
Jean Harper. Like Voice said: meet the new boss. same as the old boss.
It’s not that I can’t take criticism, Bryan. I just generally don’t like politicians and it galls me when so many kool-aid drinkers paint Jean Harper as some sort of saint.
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He’s accomplished in 13 months an arrogance and disregard for Canadians that took the Liberals in 13 years to accomplish.
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Posted by: Voice at March 2, 2007 3:31 PM
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Oh now that’s rich.
The Liberals are reluctant liars, cheaters, and thieves?
I can see it now …
[Paul Martin] Mr. Prime Minister, we’ve been in office over a decade and I feel a strange force that compels to toss off my cloak of righteousness and do something really evil. Can nothing be done to stop these completely foreign feelings?
[Jean Crouton] Good God no man. We Liberals are sweetness and light personified, but it’s the years in office that make us do evil. Now hand me that napkin; I’ve got some money to make.
Harper is know saint, but he does know something about leadership and I am not that sensitive about it, Harper by what I have observed about him is more than capable of looking after himself.
But, those men have been appointed to boards.
That is not a lie. Are they still there. Could that be a conflict of interest. Not as bad as the kernal klinks of the liberals, I know nothing, re adscam, income trust, hrdc, gun registry. And just wait till all those secret foundation reports come out.
“Not as bad as the kernal klinks of the liberals, I know nothing, re adscam, income trust, hrdc, gun registry.”
Anyone who compares PM Harper with the likes of chretch or martin with regards to corruption are stretching it, to say the least.
CPAC now…on Canadian Wheat Board…
How will the liberals respond to the spanking canada got from the UN for allowing safe injection sites, and accusing Canada of encouraging the illicit drug trade. Remember the outrage from them when PMSH talked of defunding said sites. Guess our PM was right, and this will give him the moral highground to shut them down.
After all, isn’t it the liberals who support everything the UN says and does.
An excellent piece by Gwyn Morgan from Monday’s Globe and Mail regarding Green House Gas Emissions.
Titled:
Kyoto targets, tooth fairies and emissions ambitions
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070219.wrmorgan19/BNStory/Business/home
Calgary Sun : Feb 23, 2007
Go big, Charest
By LICIA CORBELLA
“Quebec, Quebec, Quebec. Blah, blah, blah. It’s always about Quebec. Fifty stinking years of Quebec blackmailing this country with it’s limp threat to separate.”
That’s how an e-mail sent to me yesterday began. It was written by a man who asked to be described as Jacques, “a former Quebecer and long-time proud Albertan.”
His letter referred in particular to Quebec Premier Jean Charest’s Wednesday election call and how that tidbit of info dominated the news cycle and likely will long after the polls close on March 26. In contrast, other provincial election calls usually garner a brief mention on national newscasts.
True enough. That’s the reality in Canada. What Quebec does and what Quebec wants leads the agenda.
That the election call came one day after the feds announced a March 19 budget day leaves many non-Quebecers feeling cynical about the timing and most Albertans fearing Prime Minister Stephen Harper is going to break another election promise and change the equalization formula that determines how much so-called “have not” provinces get from “have” provinces.
Undoubtedly, Charest has been promised by Harper there will be good news for Quebec in the federal budget.
How much good news is the question.
Many non-Albertans believe the wild rose province is “greedy” and doesn’t share its wealth. It is an unfair perception based on ignorance.
According to Alberta MLA Ted Morton, since 1961, Alberta has contributed $220 billion net to the rest of Canada and during that same period Quebec raked in $211 billion net in equalization transfers.
What has that bought us? It certainly hasn’t purchased unity.
There is really only one way to end the neverendum threat — by Jean Charest winning the election then promptly holding a referendum to end all referendums.
If Charest wants to be more than just the boy simply stalling the inevitable tide of separatist fervour, or at least the eventual change of government to a separatist one, he should hold a referendum.
Many people will say holding another referendum would be tempting fate.
However, the difference with a referendum held by Charest as opposed to a nationalist government would be the question asked. The wording of the 1995 referendum question was impossible to understand:
“Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign, after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new Economic and Political Partnership, within the scope of the Bill respecting the future of Quebec and the agreement signed on June 12, 1995.”
Polls showed most Quebecers didn’t have a clue what that meant. The day before that fright night the vast majority of Quebecers actually believed a Yes vote would not mean Quebecers would lose their Canadian passports or any other Canadian benefit. They were duped.
With a voter turnout of 93%, the No side barely won, with 50.6% of the vote.
But that close call proved nothing. The question should be simple and to the point: Should Quebec separate from Canada? Yes or No?
Let Quebecers know what that entails. No passports, no disaster relief funding, no more federal government contracts and make-work projects, no more equalization, the removal of federal property from Quebec, including many art works and archives, etc.
Such a referendum is the only way Canada can be assured the blackmail will end. The Clarity Act is supposed to ensure a clear question is asked, but the PQ have already declared they will frame any question they want and will assume yes means yes. How would we stop them?
It’s not likely Charest will hold a referendum, but for those of us in the ignored regions, it’s a nice dream to contemplate since it helps tune out the interminable blah, blah, blah of Quebec, Quebec, Quebec.
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When I post a comment on most of the so-called “progressive” blogs…
I have come to expect to see the message that, “comments must be
approved” by the owner of the blog. When I see the same message
at a “conservative” site…
I am always a little surprised and disappointed.
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Dion’s flip-flopping more than Mr. Dithers ever did.
Now he’s backtracking again on the “carbon tax.”
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=f8566790-7279-4386-b1a9-1bfa4b0f3847&k=47115
And to top it off, he’s blaming the Conservatives for forcing him to even have to “revisit” his environmental policies.
No Canadian fatalities in Afghanistan in over 3 months: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2007/03/no-afghanistan-fatalities-in-3-months.html
Stephen Harper lies in the House of Commons, makes deliberately false accusations about individual MPs in order to score partisan political points: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2007/03/harpers-lies-are-new-low.html
Tim Blair makes fun of lefties:
W3.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21313210-5001031,00.html
Samples:
June 21, 2046
Dinner with Necrosis at that new place, Anemia. Had the gravel salad (yum!) and corn stalks, but Necrosis said her bug froth was overboiled.
February 17, 2065
If you ask me, the debate about global warming is over. I can’t believe denialists are still disputing the science of speculative global warming prediction. It says a lot about their arguments that they rely so much on “evidence”. I just wish global warming would get here a little faster, so my ethical biodome roofing business would finally turn a profit. Or attract a customer.
Stephen Harper lies in the House of Commons, makes deliberately false accusations about individual MPs in order to score partisan political points: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2007/03/harpers-lies-are-new-low.html
Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 1:26 PM
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Liberal supporters aghast at alleged “lies.” The world never ceases to amaze and amuse.
Hmmm. Pat Martin (NDP) just called the government fascists and stated that they were worse than Mussolini. This was right at the end of the CWB debate today. Don’t think the NDP will be able to complain about decorum in the house after that.
I’ll be checking Hansard to see the exact wording once available.
I take it from your comment Matt that you are neither aghast nor surprised by Harper’s lies.
This really is a new low. Say what you will about the Liberals (and little has been left unsaid here), I can’t recall any former Prime Minister, including Mulroney, lying about other MPs like that, deliberately trying to impugn their reputations with outright falsehoods. The worst I think you could say they ever did was get their underlings to say mean things about the opposing side.
And there is no alleged about it. Harper accuses two MPs of appointing their husbands to the immigration review panel, including the former Minister of Immigration. Problem is, in the first case, the former minister’s husband was actually appointed by Brian Mulroney and, in the other, she wasn’t even an MP!
Deciding you could never vote Liberal is one thing. Denying that Harper is getting more and more out of control, personally nasty and vicious is another thing altogether.
Was it just a Dream?
The other day i could have swore i responded to a CTV.ca poll re: the anti-terror sunset clause
the poll at the time had 69% in favor of the the anti terror act. I went back later to check results, But No Poll. Gone,Vanished, disappeared, Kaput.
Anyone, Anyone! was i just dreaming or was this another case of a poll gone horribly Wrong.
On another topic did anyone catch David McGuinty squirming last nite on CPAC when asked by Van Dusen if Dion is going to implement a Carbon Tax if he becomes the government.
Van Dusen was just losing it as McGuinty evaded, changed subjects did everything possible to Not Answer the Question, Yes or No.
I guess it runs in the family Brother Dalton answers the same way. Pinochio Twins.
Was this the poll you were looking foron CTV?
“Should the government have the right to hold non-citizens suspected of having terrorist ties indefinitely?”
The result was 63% yes, while 37% said no.
Bring back Kate.
“How will the liberals respond to the spanking canada got from the UN for allowing safe injection sites, and accusing Canada of encouraging the illicit drug trade. Posted by: mary T. at March 2, 2007 12:46 PM”
mary,
I used to tell everyone who would listen that so-called “safe injection sites” were a loony idea. But now that the UN is saying the same thing, I might have to change my mind.
check out today’s poll, the result’s so far are resoundingly for no, in regards to the question about Richmonds fire department.
You can’t spell unbelievable without UN.
I take it from your comment Matt that you are neither aghast nor surprised by Harper’s lies.
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Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 1:38 PM
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Ted, when you got up out of your chair and voted Liberal, you signalled that lying, cheating and stealing are all OK.
It’s a little late to huff and puff about it now.
So because you think some Liberals did some bad things in the past…. any Canadian citizen who voted for them in the past doesn’t have a say in the political process anymore? Is that what you mean Matt? We aren’t allowed to talk about how our government is performing? Is that what you are saying?
Just put up and shut up about Harper’s flip flops, lies, arrogance, and his gimmicky government of politics over policy?
Hey, remember the supreme court appt of cotliers wifes best friends husband. It is too bad so many liberal supporters believe everything PMSH says or does is a lie or flipflop, but can’t see any wrongs by the liberals during all their years in govt re appointments, stealing, flipflops, and are ready to excuse all these just for spite. But according to polls, things are starting to change.
Fixed that for you Ted…
Just put up and shut up about Chretien’s flip flops, lies, arrogance, and his gimmicky government of politics over policy?
I guess what goes around really does come around, since you apparently have PMSH Derangement Syndrome I can’t really trust anything you say. I will have to check this out myself. I am afraid that you have been crying WOLF for so long that even if you do tell the truth by mistake you won’t be believed….
How does an alleged wrong by the Liberals in the past mean Harper isn’t lying now?
Ted,
You can yammer on about it all you want. Nowhere did I ask that you shut your pie hole.
It’s just that I can’t take you and your complaints seriously.
I’m sure you’re a nice guy and all that, but when you start complaining about stuff that the Liberals are masters of, about stuff that you happily accepted when you voted for them, you aren’t credible.
Dion working on Carbon tax.
Dion said. “Oui waassted full year before been able to do enny ting. Zo I need revisit my own plan make sure dat it will work more spe dilly for Canadiens in order do our share of climate change and to have a strongest eh con me built on substainability, and dis is what I do’
CBCpravda did several days of why the vancouver safe injection sites were a good thing. now the UN the mighty UN has come out against it Pravda is quiet as a whore in church.
Regarding disappearing polls:
I do know that sometimes online polls get blitzed by a person or group of people with a certain agenda. And when this happens, it’s obvious by the number of votes deviating dramatically from the average number of votes in the polls typically, the website will often just take it down.
What I would suggest to CTV is that if this is the case they should make a note on their website when they do it. I know that CHQR radio will tell you when their poll results have been compromised and they are not going to report the results the next day.
I like “Ted”. It reassures us every time the “Teds” of the world post or comment, at how lucky we are to have the BT blogsphere for:
– real content (not one 10 word sentence with 8 swear words, at which the author clearly struggled to determine where the period went;
– perspective from the outside world;
– a sense of proportion.
Oh, and before I forget, Ted? Whatever Harper’s doing in the house is working just fine. So suck it up Princess, read the polls, and ask yourself a fundamental question: “why should Teddy be part of a bunch of leaderless losers?”.
Ted, on this issue, I agree with you. Harper should withdraw his remarks and apologize, and he will. Calling him a liar is another matter. Can you argue he knowingly (it-knew of Mulroney appointment), misrepresented himself in HoC?
Re: polls. Obviously Tories headed for majorityland; hence, the increasing rage against him and his “cultlike” leadership.
Haven’t heard from SES. They got last-minute voter intentions right last election. I would be interested in their take now.
It’s pretty astonishing to me how many so-called Harper supporters there are and none will defend Harper on this issue.
He is turning into (has always been?) a mean-spirited man. We say the worst of it yesterday when he attacked to opposition MPs – not even the leader – attacked their personal integrity and reputation with bald-faced lie.
He said they appointed their husbands to the immigration panel and they weren’t even there when it happened. One of them was in fact appointed by Brian Mulroney.
I don’t give a flying crap what you folk think about the Liberals or me. This Prime Minister lives in a lower and dirtier gutter than Chretien and he likes it.
Ted,
Not to hurt your feelings, but I don’t trust you. You could tell me that there was a major snow storm in Ontario yesterday and I’d be suspicious.
I instinctively reject anything where you are the messenger. I have no interest in your allegations. Your past behaviour (i.e., condoning Liberal lying, cheating, and stealing) tells me that you’re not a credible source.
It’s like getting a call in the middle of dinner from some telemarketer telling me I’ve been selected from thousands of people for this/that/the other thing.
I consider the source and reject it. Click.
“We are putting in place a new selection system so we do not have what we had before – like the member for Westmount-Ville-Marie (Robillard) appointing her former husband as a member of the board, like the husband of the member for Notre-Dame-de-Grâce-Lachine (Jennings) as a member of the board,” Harper said. He repeated the allegation in French, accusing Jennings, too, of making the appointment.
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/187460
It will be up on Hansard soon.
Just call him Jean Harper. To the power of ten.
“I don’t give a flying crap what you folk think about the Liberals or me. This Prime Minister lives in a lower and dirtier gutter than Chretien and he likes it.”
Awww….teddy is having a hiisy fit.
That should be “hissy”.
Found It, I was not Dreaming afterall. However after reading the results the Liberals are most likely going to hope it was a dream as i can see the PM’s numbers going up again soon.
Tucked neatly on the CanadaAm Your say Comments section, Low & behold there it was Wed.Feb28, Strange thing is that there was not one comment on the poll, Not 1. Now would you not find that is really quite strange that not one person sent a comment.
yup just another poll gone wrong.
Question: Was the Defeat of the anti-terror Legislation the right thing for Canadians?
Results
76% NO
24% Yes
Another issue that Canadians will support the Government on & another that will come back to haunt Dion & Co for trashing the Bill.
while we are in the gutter.
wasnt it Jean Cretian that encountered the poor homeless man in the gutter on his walk to work.
no, thats right, he made that all up. but it was good press until they couldnt find such a person.
speaking of lies and deceit , when are the Libs going to pay back the $40 million they stole from the taxpayers?
Ted, get a grip on yourself, or something.
Your sounding awfully desperate.
The Conservatives will need at least a decade to clean the Liberal sleaze/corruption and profound
state of entitlement.
Harper is on his way to being the best Prime Minister we’ve had in memory.
He took a hit on the Income Trust file but he had the guts to do the right thing. That’s a Leader.
You won’t find him out promising all things to all
people to get votes. He has principle. We can expect fairness.
We’ll have an Armed Forces to protect us and our way of life at home and abroad, something the Liberals ignored for several decades.
The Liberals are out for the long term, get used to it. The people of this Country are not about to
give the reins of power to a Party divided and in
extreme state of flux.
Ted,
Wow man. Calm yourself down. Harper is here, will be for awhile so do not wear yourself out. He must be doing something right if he can work you up like this.
I do not understand this Jean Harper comment. I have seen it elsewhere or maybe it was just you. What is the point you are making with that name?
enough
A little quote from CBC-Pravda regarding the brutal CDN killers in Afghanistan.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/03/02/detainees-missing.html
“Poor record-keeping by Afghan guards or undocumented release, which occurs regularly and often as a result of bribes, could explain their disappearance. But they may have been tortured or killed.”
Translation: We don’t know what happened but our military is evil and full of killers.
How does an alleged wrong by the Liberals in the past mean Harper isn’t lying now?
Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 2:22 PM ”
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‘alleged’ ??????
where tf were you teddy when adscam hit the news ?????????
the plain brown envelopes stuffed with cash changing hands at the restaurant.
the lieberals ADMITTING they got some 10 mill out of it with a ‘garsh heh heh awwww shucks guys we’ll jess gives it back eh?’
jeezuz murphy you lieberals really believe all your own lies. a telltale sign of serious psychological impairment; you cant tell fantasy from reality.
“I do not understand this Jean Harper comment”
I think little teddy boy is trying in vain to compare screw face with our PM.
The point is that Harper is just Jean Chretien in blue. Partisanship over policy. Politics over priniciple.
Funny thing is, when Jean Chretien came into office after a corrupt government, he introduced then what were the toughest accountability measures ever. Was the first to introduce the very idea that all government contracts should go through a procurement process instead of just handed over to friends. And then after years the arrogance and corruption settled into the government.
Harper is an over achiever. He’s accomplished in 13 months an arrogance and disregard for Canadians that took the Liberals in 13 years to accomplish. No bid contracts to friendly firms. Partisan appointments to the judiciary. Lowering the level of debate in the House for partisan gain.
He probably will win the next election. Especially with all of the support and anti-Liberal/anti-Dion bias of the MSM these days.
But Chretien wasn’t a good PM just because he could beat the Conservatives and win elections. In fact, the ease with which he could do so actually made him more arrogant and a less good PM.
We’re seeing the same phenomena today with Jean Harper. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. Only his socks are blue.
Ted, sure is to bad you got yourself in a not over this, the Liberal’s haven’t proved it isn;t true what Harper said, they just crie like kids on a play ground anytime someone says something about them that may be considered slighly below the belt, Liberal’s like to dish out a lot od thing’s remeber the whole hidden agenda thing, they used that for 2 or 3 elections and there crying ususally leads me to believe that you must have struck a nerve when they wine like they do. If you are going to call people all the things that Liberal’s have called conservatives over the years and can’t take it when someone throws something back than you should stay out of politics
“He probably will win the next election. Especially with all of the support and anti-Liberal/anti-Dion bias of the MSM these days.”
MSM bias? Man, that was good for a laugh. The rest of your post is idiotic at best.
If anything there is generally a bias that is usually pretty Liberal freindly in the media
Bryan:
Hunh? What on earth are you talking about?
Kate opened this up to reader tips. Harper made the most outrageous of lies about the personal integrity of two MPs and I noted it. I think the hypersensitivity in your and other’s reaction is quite indicative of how vulnerable you realize he is.
And there is no question about his untruthfulness. He said that the former minister of immigration appointed her husband to the immigration review panel. That is a very strong ethics charge. Problem is, her husband was appointed by Mulroney. In the other lie, the other MP wasn’t even in Parliament.
So your guy isn’t perfect. So he turns out to be as corrupt and partisan and dirty pool as every single other politician who has ever been in government and held power. So the guy has shown that he is as desperate to hold onto that power as every other politician before him, Liberal included.
Jean Harper. Like Voice said: meet the new boss. same as the old boss.
It’s not that I can’t take criticism, Bryan. I just generally don’t like politicians and it galls me when so many kool-aid drinkers paint Jean Harper as some sort of saint.
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He’s accomplished in 13 months an arrogance and disregard for Canadians that took the Liberals in 13 years to accomplish.
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Posted by: Voice at March 2, 2007 3:31 PM
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Oh now that’s rich.
The Liberals are reluctant liars, cheaters, and thieves?
I can see it now …
[Paul Martin] Mr. Prime Minister, we’ve been in office over a decade and I feel a strange force that compels to toss off my cloak of righteousness and do something really evil. Can nothing be done to stop these completely foreign feelings?
[Jean Crouton] Good God no man. We Liberals are sweetness and light personified, but it’s the years in office that make us do evil. Now hand me that napkin; I’ve got some money to make.
Harper is know saint, but he does know something about leadership and I am not that sensitive about it, Harper by what I have observed about him is more than capable of looking after himself.
But, those men have been appointed to boards.
That is not a lie. Are they still there. Could that be a conflict of interest. Not as bad as the kernal klinks of the liberals, I know nothing, re adscam, income trust, hrdc, gun registry. And just wait till all those secret foundation reports come out.
“Not as bad as the kernal klinks of the liberals, I know nothing, re adscam, income trust, hrdc, gun registry.”
Anyone who compares PM Harper with the likes of chretch or martin with regards to corruption are stretching it, to say the least.