Open Market has the story here:
Last summer’s outbreak of E. coli contamination in packaged spinach that killed at least three people and sickened more than 200 others has now been confirmed to have come from a 50-acre organic farm in California’s San Benito County.
Now I don’t really think organic foods are hazardous to your health, but the organic food industry so shamelessly hypes non-existent dangers to promote their products I’m happy to let them wear this one.
Yes, organic vegetarian spinach-eaters, organic fertilizers carry risks of their own.
Yes, organic fertilizers are, well, organic. That should send up the first red flag!
The Governments and every person must do something about this, why this single incident killed more people that Global Warming has in history!!!
geez I sure dont like the use of the word poopooed in this context.
gives me the same feeling as when I see Borat Dion, a little barf in me own mouth.
There’s an excellent article written by Tom Wolfe about what happened when 60’s counterculture rebeled against common public health practices. The hippies thought basic hygene was a societal norm that was enforced just to control. They ended up with a host of aliments and illnesses common to the Middle Ages. Just remember Mother Nature wants to kill you and feed you to the scavengers because that is of course the natural way.
hippie communes in the southwest were known for bubonic plague. courtesy the rodents. this is true. look it up. the women shunned all kinds of grooming and the men thought it bourgoise to shower every day. wtf running water was a middle class luxury, just hike down to the free-love stream.
as far as ‘organic’ goes, the regulations STILL allow traces of artificial pesticides.
so whats the big friggin deal ???
Well, I guess there’s a reason we don’t eat poo.
I would lay a bet that right next door to this organic farm is a cattle feedlot. You know, those cattle that are fed supplementary rations and hormones in their diet to increase growth rate.
So-called “organic” crap is grown in bovine excrement, and it is marketed via bovine excrement
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How many have died from so called franken foods ?? None.
How many died from responsible use of DDT ? None.
How many died from the DDT Ban ? Millions(malaria).
The wakos cannot stand others success. Pure and simple.
IMO wakos are the basket weaver latte crowd. Not the “left” so often referred to. Many in the left build our houses, ect.
The environmental movement that our own Canadian, Patrick Moore (greenspirit.com)started, was taken over by the wakos. Lots of them we’re looking for a cause-du-jour after their beloved communism/socialism failed and the Belin Wall came down.
I think we all have to remember that initially a lot of us did not accept the first enviros ideas. Each one has to be looked at individually.
Auto exhausts were cleaned up. Great.
The Great Lakes too. Terrific.
Pesticides had to be used responsibly. Food is safe. (Except organic)
Jet engines used to spew smoke. No more.
Many, many good examples of great work by environmentalists.
Then the nut-cases took over.
Use alien (crop-circle-making) technology to fix climate change. (Paul Hellyer)
Go back to living like the cave man. (Suzuki)
Control the Earth’s thermostat. (Dion)
Too mant humanbeings. Eliminate some. (Maurice Strong)
Ban the auto. (but leave enough for hitch-hiking hippys)
How do all the nonsensical ideas get so far. Simple. The media loves them. Sells papers. (dead trees)
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what was it willie nelson said, when somone on his touring bus
got popped for possession of pot last year..? “thank god it wasn’t a
bag of spinach, someone could have died.”
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‘Organic’ pesticides are the most hilarious, they’re just older and less effective than the new stuff – so they probably have to use tons of it!
I think you’ll find that the sources that have the e.colie have been using municipal sludge for “organic fertilizer”…there are factory sided farm ops and hey, ya get what ya see.
Anyone who eats raw spinach deserves ecoli 😉
Anyone who buys Mex produce and doesn’t cook it is a fool…actually a fool with parasites.
Part of feeding yourself properly and safely is to at least have the interest to KNOW where your produce comes from and how to prepare it…then again we have 2 generations out that that think “canning” is kinky washroom sex.
Does this mean I have to wear a helmet when I eat organic spinach?
“what was it willie nelson said, when somone on his touring bus got popped for possession of pot last year..? “thank god it wasn’t a bag of spinach, someone could have died.”
aka:
Mama dont let your babies grow up to be spinach eaters !!! LOL !!!
Willie remember aint no big fan of gubbamint having been put thru the sausage machine for non payment of taxes.
“Does this mean I have to wear a helmet when I eat organic spinach?”
Thank gawd I just swallowed my beverage prior to reading this.
Shaken…some sort of warning please!
If you want safe organic food…grow your own!
You really need to get your facts straight. The media accidently put a picture of organic spinach in the news, but it was not organic that was the culprit of the e.coli scare. Look it up on google and any trusted news source will back this up.
Organic is not about hippies and hugging trees…it’s about making the choice not to put a whole host of chemicals in your body…chemicals that have been scientifically linked to cancer, birth defects, neurological damge, attention deficit disorder and a whole other host of problems. Thus avoiding these things only seems logical doesn’t it? Why would you want to put those things in your body? Even a steak-eating republican could see how that doesn’t make sense. The conventional world has used all this sythetic crap to make food cheaper, but in the long run it is costing us more than anyone ever would have imagined. Read the book Organic, Inc. and start searching for the truth and you’ll see that the conventional food is pulling the wool over your eyes and you are a victim of their greed and laziness.
To be fair and balanced, in this case I believe the problem was ascribed not to the organic fertilizer but rather to feral pigs pooping in the fields. That said, looks like another opportunity for genetic modification to improve life by creating crops that poison e. coli.
hikergirl. Please provide links to cases of “.. scientifically linked to cancer, birth defects, neurological damge, attention deficit disorder and a whole other host of problems. ”
Some wiered professor in his basement ODing mice doesn’t count.
Our food supply is the safest it has ever been. EVER. Other than organic, of course.
‘Attention Deficit Disorder’ cause by food !!?? How about; ‘the do-gooder basket weaver’s “idea” of no discipline’ ??
There probably are many cases of people with “syndromes” in reaction to contemporary methods and applications. But one has to appreciate that people are variable. My wife reacts to many tree fruits if they are raw (apples, cherries, apricots, peaches, some nuts). This is whether they are organic or not. But a bit of cooking neutralizes the effect. Her body is different than others, obviously. So I am sure some people out there react to some that can be applied to food. Which means cisting the fact some people react is hardly a useful policy-decision criterion.
I don’t see much offensive about the organic movement other than its comical holier-than-thou attitude. But one has to realize that modern food methods are beneficial in many ways. Pasteurized orange juice has reduced nutrients, to be sure. But then fresh-squeezed might give your child e coli poisoning if you put the juice in a container for their box lunch. If one adopts 19th century food preparation, one has to re-familiarize oneself with 19th centurty food taboos and methods.
I blame the whole thing on the creators of the Popeye cartoons.
“conventional food is pulling the wool over your eyes”
Explaining soooo much!
Popeye ate canned spinach.
I agree about the “comical holier-than-thou attitude” of the organic crowd.
I generally try to avoid Superstore (Loblaw’s) on a Saturday as it is a complete zoo. But on the occasions when I do go, I find the aisle with the organic foods is the best for traversing one end of the store to the other – it’s always completely empty.
Bless you, organics!
David Miller advocates moss roofs for toronto homes, could they be covered with topsoil so you could grow your own food. Considering that most of the younger generation haven’t a clue to cooking from scratch, so think raw is great. It’s all they know. I prefer cooked veggies. All those lefties who are envirwackos and support suzuki, non chemical food (wonder if they take the pill) better enroll in some cooking classes so they can prepare all that organic food. Wonder who is going to grow it, as it takes energy, and they want to eliminate anything using fuel.
Who will be the first city council to propose hitching rails in place of parking meters.
Thanks Hikergirl.
I could not have parodied the typical self-righteous “organic” wackado as well as you did. You used some of the standard stuff from the “organic” dogma. But, you managed to present the silly “organic” paranoia about “evil” chemicals without once using the words “evil” or “toxic”. Very well done, Hikergirl! Great parody!
BTW, reputable news services do indeed show that the tainted spinach was indeed organic.
Has broccoli received any bad press? I looking for anything.
You know, when someone can predict your opinion on any given subject, you probably should ask yourself whether you’re actually doing any thinking or whether you’ve just joined a team.
(The sda take on any topic is eminently predictable.)
I’d love it if we had more neighborhood farm markets, less corporate agriculture, less insecticides, hormones and antibiotics in livestock feed, but, I’m sure as heck not making organic farming a religion as so many do. In spite of all of the above we are better nourished and have a longer life expectancy than our grandparents or the third world.
I wish supermarkets bought from locals in the summer, it tastes better. I won’t condemn anyone that buys organic, but, I think they are a fool if they politicize or make it a religious
dogma. And, anyone paying triple for organic bananas needs to really think hard about why.
It’s the smarmy virturatic attitude that the left assigns to whatever is in fashion with them that disgusts me. Walmart is stocking organics now and when carrots get to my price point I’ll buy them.
Oh, and according to National Geographic this week Mars is warming. Guess those Martians are next on the Kyoto hit list.
Thats an awesome one exile, you mind if I use that one?
From several articles that I’ve read, it seems as though the companies with recalled products were not using high enough concentrations of chlorine for the water in which they wash their produce. I suppose this might be a selling point for people who want “organic” foods that are free of “chemicals”, but I like my produce well washed of E Coli, thank you.
Last Fall I purchased spinach from a grocery store in town, and noticed a week later that the spinach had been recalled and was off the shelf. Not sure if I had E Coli or some other ailment but I certainly had some bowel trouble for a good little while after consuming the product. I do not know if the two are related but I will definitely be avoiding that product from now on.
it is crucial that we are aware of the way our food is processed these days. fer instance,
is it organic, inorganic or byoganic?
…it takes more energy to recycle plastic than it takes to make new stuff.
“…it takes more energy to recycle plastic than it takes to make new stuff.
Posted by: kelly at March 3, 2007 1:55 AM ”
this is a VERY significant point to the whole recycling binge.
the ‘costs’ MUST include what time frame; recycling postpones the day of reckoning when the individual/community/city/nation must shop around in desperation (tranna style) looking for another place to dump more megatonnes of waste; recycling despite higher costs in a lot of cases DOES pay off in the long term if you do it right by extending the life of existing facilities.
for one thing, its really good if the output product is used locally, away with high transportation costs.
it isnt a simple situation, any recycling effort needs sufficient analysis INCLUDING the time frame regarding true costs.
“…it takes more energy to recycle plastic than it takes to make new stuff.
Posted by: kelly at March 3, 2007 1:55 AM ”
this is a VERY significant point to the whole recycling binge.
the ‘costs’ MUST include what time frame; recycling postpone the day of reckoning when the individual/community/city/nation must shop around in desparation (tranna style) looking for another place to dump more megatonnes of waste; recycling despite higher costs in a lot of cases DOES pay off in the long term if you do it right.
for one thing, its really good if the output product is used locally, away with high transportation costs.
it isnt a simple situation, any recycling effort needs sufficient analysis INCLUDING the time frame regarding true costs.
…i can’t look at another spinach and not think pig poo.
My world is in shambles.
I blame it all on, uh, um, what do you call those grotesque mini cabbage balls again?
(shielding ears.)
Feral pigs as well as domestic pigs have a similar physiological system to humans. Therefore if they poop on vegetable gardens, humans eating raw vegetables could easily contact an e-coli infection. This is the reason we COOK pork and COOK vegetables before we eat them.
Feral pigs as well as domestic pigs have a similar physiological system to humans. Therefore if they poop on vegetable gardens, humans eating raw vegetables could easily contact an e-coli infection. This is the reason we COOK pork and COOK vegetables before we eat them.
Feral pigs as well as domestic pigs have a similar physiological system to humans”
actually this is very true.
wasnt there a desperate attempt some time ago in californicate to transplant a pig organ into a child ?
then theres that scene in the movie ‘o lucky man’ where the anti-hero stumbles into a gubbamint research lab and happens on a porcine human.
Obviously the great majority of you do not really know what Organic farming is. The real Organic farming only uses natural ingredients to produce food and manure from aninmals is used to create the best humus possible. Obvioulsy all of you have absolutely no idea what a real Organic farmer is and how the process of Organic farming works.
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So much for all this wholesome organic stuff and where was the idiots at PETA,PCRM and CSPI when all the E COLI was conaminating that crop of spinace last year? not a word from tose idiots