What sort of world is Marvin leaving for his grandchildren?
24 Replies to “As The Ice Caps Melt”
Yup this is one of those confirming correlations that something exra terrestrial (beyond earth) is going on.
I have been reading the literature on solar forcing, while it is a relatively older theory it has been attracting new attention as they have begun to gather DATA, primary data, on the sun from the satttelites launched in the last 10 years. In addition we have gone through one full solar cycle, just coming up on the minimum now.
What I like most about the solar literature is that it is not so absolutist, in other words it hasnt been politicized yet. They examine all options and include some room for there to be SOME effect from human contributed GHG….Lets be clear the GHG effect is real because without we wouldnt be hear….but the most important GHG is water vapour.
Anyway, this is a tough one for the alarmists to explain, unless its because the Mars rover was using an engine built in Detroit and fuelled by Saudi Oil! :->
Nice post
at one time I had a mars photo of the southern icecap that showed the mars polar icecaps had been shrinking for about a 100 years , showed ridges etc. Alas that photo has been removed from the site as I think it was judged inflammatory to the current scientific beliefs.
Maybe Mars is heating up because of the heat from the Earth.
It’s like holding your hand near a hot stove.
Don’t laugh, that’s no goofier than half the nonsense in The Day After or Al-Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth.
Now Kate, let’s not cloud the issue with facts.
Just in from Denver- who this week dont believe in Global warming, warning politically inuendo.
WEATHER BULLETIN
Up here, in the “Mile-Hi City”, we just recovered from a Historic
event— may I even say a “Weather Event” of “Biblical Proportions” —
with a historic blizzard of up to 44″ inches of snow and winds to 90 MPH
that broke trees in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds
of motorists in lethal snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated scores of
communities and cut power to 10’s of thousands.
FYI:
George Bush did not come.
FEMA did nothing.
No one howled for the government.
No one blamed the government.
No one even uttered an expletive on TV.
Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton did not visit.
Our Mayor did not blame Bush or anyone else.
Our Governor did not blame Bush or anyone else, either.
CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX or NBC did not visit – or report on this category 5
snowstorm. Nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards.
No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House.
No one looted.
Nobody – I mean Nobody demanded the government do something.
Nobody expected the government to do anything, either.
No Larry King, No Bill O’Rielly, No Oprah, No Chris Mathews and No
Geraldo Rivera.
No Shaun Penn, No Barbara Striesand, No Hollywood types to be found.
Nope, we just melted the snow for water.
Sent out caravans of SUV’s to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars.
The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks and didn’t ask for a
penny.
Local restaurants made food and the police and fire departments
delivered it to the snowbound families.
Families took in the stranded people – total strangers.
We fired up wood stoves, broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman lanterns.
We put on extra layers of clothes because up here it is “Work or Die”.
We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of
a mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades
votes for ‘sittin at home’ checks.
Even though a Category “5” blizzard of this scale has never fallen this
early, we know it can happen and how to deal with it ourselves.
“In my many travels, I have noticed that once one gets north of about 48
degrees North Latitude, 90% of the world’s social problems evaporate.”
It does seem that way, at least to me.
I hope this gets passed on.
Maybe SOME people will get the message. The world does Not owe you a living.
Cal, do you have a source link for that? I’d like to use it later.
Has the Martian Ski Association commented on the situation yet?
As I try to understand this latest craze “global warming” I’m wishing the global warming of the summer was still here on the wet coast.
As I understand it this latest hair pulling has been caused by a wee, by artic standards, chunk of ice that moved its local by less than most people commute to and from work daily.
Most icebergs stay and melt away in the artic. These start out weighing millions of tons and in their wanderings tend to smash through any thing that gets in their way. One of them, that the artic’s full of, is ice shelves. They have been doing this since before man first burnt his fingers on half cooked meat.
Unlike the urban econuts I have been in the artic ocean and seen what an iceberg is cappable of.
Iceberg example, and yes I have the picture to prove it. Aprox area 2 city blocks sitting on the bottom in 1500 ft of water with aprox 900 ft above. this was a new berg so it was still a cube. I don’t recall the weight calaulations but needless to say it was heavy.
The liberal types that drive around on the highways in the GTA don’t seem to have fully absorbed the global-warming message yet. It also appears that they have forgotten their high-school physics.
Wind resistance increases proportionally with the square of velocity. Thus, fuel consumption increases dramatically as velocity increases. Driving at the speed limit is green: fuel consumed is translated into force to overcome friction and wind resistance, and gravity when going uphill, and thus combustive products (CO2) increase dramatically with velocity.
Every time I am passed by a yuppie-mobile flying down the 403 or 407 at 120km/hr+ I wonder if there’s a good liberal inside at the wheel, and if they are really sincere in their concern about greenhouse gases. Or, could it be that it is typical liberal logic to be concerned ‘for others’, allowing the saintly liberal types to pronounce how others should conduct themselves.
Want to see liberal hypocrisy in action? Drive on an Ontario 400 series road.
Remember Stephen Harper saying:
“What’s next an alien invasion?”
Yep, its Marvin the Martian with his Q36 Space Modulator eliminating the earth because it blocked his view from the sun.
Rona Ambrose, in her new role as Inter-Planetary Affairs Minister, has concluded a peace treaty with the Martian Nation by agreeing that Earth should change its orbit so the Martians can better enjoy the view of solar flare activity.
The Earth shattering news is that we are saved!!
Marvin the Martian joins Conservative Party.
Marvin shares saucer technology with mankind, initiating commuter travel to Mars.
Tory majority by a landslide!
?
so now are we to take it global warming is caused by aliens?
preparatory to an invasion perhaps.
on the other hand, I wonder what all those cattle herders in the new desertified areas of africa think of all this as the herd dies of thirst. or ask an australian farmer the same thing when his or her herd disappears with the water. http://www.fragilecologies.com/jan29_03.html
before politics and boundaries , the nomadic herders would follow the water or the grass.
the herds and deserts were moving long before the naked ape stepped into the picture. The areas in the rift valley – the cradle of naked- apedom were alot more lush than they currently are and mr.and mrs. first naked ape werent to invent fire or CO2 emmissions for another 750000 years,
Well as Marvin would say “that makes me very angry!”
shaken….right on the money…the hypocrisy of the librano/moonbat crowd is beyond pale….diesel volvos, suv’s, 5000 sq ft log homes, 3000 sq ft cottages, I could go on and on….yet, because they recycle(counter environmental practice) and push their weenie euro lawnmowers, they think they are saving the planet…pathetic…MOONBAT IDIOTS!
Letter in today’s Toronto Star. The correspondent might be upset about global warming, but he has bigger fish to fry.
His knickers are in a twist because Canada’s getting the scientific information from – THE AMERICANS!
=================== Let’s start thinking for ourselves
January 05, 2007
I am upset top green activists in Canada feel they have to rely on predictions from NASA that most ice in the Arctic will disappear in the next few decades when there are plenty of Canadian researchers closer to the ice who are saying the same thing. Does it sound better and more official to their colonial minds to hear it from the United States? Let’s get in the habit of thinking for ourselves.
Rob Konduros, Cambridge, Ont.
As usual Bollocks, you point to some ecological issue and, automatically, human-induced climate change is the culprit. Here’s some news for you, climate DOES ACTUALLY CHANGE WITHOUT HUMAN INTERVENTION!!!!
Anecdotal evidence is insufficient as justification for human-induced, or any other kind of climate change.
We have had unusually cold weather on Vancouver Island; I guess you would agree that is proof of the coming ice age.
Maybe you should review Suzuki’s 1980 speech about global cooling!
Of course you’re right, we should dismantle western economies, so China and India can burn the oil. That will be a big help.
…i know there is intelligent life out there…
…they haven’t tried to contact us yet…
Just remember that you’re standing on a planet that’s evolving
And revolving at 900 miles an hour,
That’s orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it’s reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at 40,000 miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the Milky Way.
Our galaxy itself contains 100 billion stars
It’s 100,000 light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, 16,000 light years thick
But out by us its just 3,000 light years wide
We’re 30,000 light years from galactic central point,
We go round every 200 million years
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding Universe.
The Universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light you know,
12 million miles a minute, and that’s the fastest speed there
is.
So remember when you’re feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space
Because there’ bugger all down here on earth
bollocks: “…I wonder what all those cattle herders in the new desertified areas of africa think of all this as the herd dies of thirst.”
Probably about the same thoughts as farmers in North Africa and Felix Arabia had when their fields and orchards were overcome by desertification more than a millenium ago. I suppose that was caused by all those farting camels and Arab campfires.
Denver is only 39 degrees, 48 minutes north latitude.
How many people died in this snowstorm? How many houses were actually destroyed? Those aren’t meant as flippant or PC questions; if very few, it strikes me as a significant difference between Katrina and the snowstorm.
James, it’s all about preparation. Maybe the people of New Orleans should have invested in a boat, after all they do live below sea level.
Hey marvin needs all that water for his ELUDUIM Q-36 EXPLOSIVE SPACE MODULATOR and of course for all those INSTANT MARTIANS
Yup this is one of those confirming correlations that something exra terrestrial (beyond earth) is going on.
I have been reading the literature on solar forcing, while it is a relatively older theory it has been attracting new attention as they have begun to gather DATA, primary data, on the sun from the satttelites launched in the last 10 years. In addition we have gone through one full solar cycle, just coming up on the minimum now.
What I like most about the solar literature is that it is not so absolutist, in other words it hasnt been politicized yet. They examine all options and include some room for there to be SOME effect from human contributed GHG….Lets be clear the GHG effect is real because without we wouldnt be hear….but the most important GHG is water vapour.
Anyway, this is a tough one for the alarmists to explain, unless its because the Mars rover was using an engine built in Detroit and fuelled by Saudi Oil! :->
Nice post
at one time I had a mars photo of the southern icecap that showed the mars polar icecaps had been shrinking for about a 100 years , showed ridges etc. Alas that photo has been removed from the site as I think it was judged inflammatory to the current scientific beliefs.
Maybe Mars is heating up because of the heat from the Earth.
It’s like holding your hand near a hot stove.
Don’t laugh, that’s no goofier than half the nonsense in The Day After or Al-Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth.
Now Kate, let’s not cloud the issue with facts.
Just in from Denver- who this week dont believe in Global warming, warning politically inuendo.
WEATHER BULLETIN
Up here, in the “Mile-Hi City”, we just recovered from a Historic
event— may I even say a “Weather Event” of “Biblical Proportions” —
with a historic blizzard of up to 44″ inches of snow and winds to 90 MPH
that broke trees in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds
of motorists in lethal snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated scores of
communities and cut power to 10’s of thousands.
FYI:
George Bush did not come.
FEMA did nothing.
No one howled for the government.
No one blamed the government.
No one even uttered an expletive on TV.
Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton did not visit.
Our Mayor did not blame Bush or anyone else.
Our Governor did not blame Bush or anyone else, either.
CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX or NBC did not visit – or report on this category 5
snowstorm. Nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards.
No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House.
No one looted.
Nobody – I mean Nobody demanded the government do something.
Nobody expected the government to do anything, either.
No Larry King, No Bill O’Rielly, No Oprah, No Chris Mathews and No
Geraldo Rivera.
No Shaun Penn, No Barbara Striesand, No Hollywood types to be found.
Nope, we just melted the snow for water.
Sent out caravans of SUV’s to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars.
The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks and didn’t ask for a
penny.
Local restaurants made food and the police and fire departments
delivered it to the snowbound families.
Families took in the stranded people – total strangers.
We fired up wood stoves, broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman lanterns.
We put on extra layers of clothes because up here it is “Work or Die”.
We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of
a mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades
votes for ‘sittin at home’ checks.
Even though a Category “5” blizzard of this scale has never fallen this
early, we know it can happen and how to deal with it ourselves.
“In my many travels, I have noticed that once one gets north of about 48
degrees North Latitude, 90% of the world’s social problems evaporate.”
It does seem that way, at least to me.
I hope this gets passed on.
Maybe SOME people will get the message. The world does Not owe you a living.
Cal, do you have a source link for that? I’d like to use it later.
Has the Martian Ski Association commented on the situation yet?
As I try to understand this latest craze “global warming” I’m wishing the global warming of the summer was still here on the wet coast.
As I understand it this latest hair pulling has been caused by a wee, by artic standards, chunk of ice that moved its local by less than most people commute to and from work daily.
Most icebergs stay and melt away in the artic. These start out weighing millions of tons and in their wanderings tend to smash through any thing that gets in their way. One of them, that the artic’s full of, is ice shelves. They have been doing this since before man first burnt his fingers on half cooked meat.
Unlike the urban econuts I have been in the artic ocean and seen what an iceberg is cappable of.
Iceberg example, and yes I have the picture to prove it. Aprox area 2 city blocks sitting on the bottom in 1500 ft of water with aprox 900 ft above. this was a new berg so it was still a cube. I don’t recall the weight calaulations but needless to say it was heavy.
source this blog, but it looks like a pull from somewhere else.
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/huntsville-ar/THIGG982TR4232Q6V/p14
Damn Mars rovers!
The liberal types that drive around on the highways in the GTA don’t seem to have fully absorbed the global-warming message yet. It also appears that they have forgotten their high-school physics.
Wind resistance increases proportionally with the square of velocity. Thus, fuel consumption increases dramatically as velocity increases. Driving at the speed limit is green: fuel consumed is translated into force to overcome friction and wind resistance, and gravity when going uphill, and thus combustive products (CO2) increase dramatically with velocity.
Every time I am passed by a yuppie-mobile flying down the 403 or 407 at 120km/hr+ I wonder if there’s a good liberal inside at the wheel, and if they are really sincere in their concern about greenhouse gases. Or, could it be that it is typical liberal logic to be concerned ‘for others’, allowing the saintly liberal types to pronounce how others should conduct themselves.
Want to see liberal hypocrisy in action? Drive on an Ontario 400 series road.
Remember Stephen Harper saying:
“What’s next an alien invasion?”
Yep, its Marvin the Martian with his Q36 Space Modulator eliminating the earth because it blocked his view from the sun.
Rona Ambrose, in her new role as Inter-Planetary Affairs Minister, has concluded a peace treaty with the Martian Nation by agreeing that Earth should change its orbit so the Martians can better enjoy the view of solar flare activity.
The Earth shattering news is that we are saved!!
Marvin the Martian joins Conservative Party.
Marvin shares saucer technology with mankind, initiating commuter travel to Mars.
Tory majority by a landslide!
?
so now are we to take it global warming is caused by aliens?
preparatory to an invasion perhaps.
on the other hand, I wonder what all those cattle herders in the new desertified areas of africa think of all this as the herd dies of thirst. or ask an australian farmer the same thing when his or her herd disappears with the water.
http://www.fragilecologies.com/jan29_03.html
before politics and boundaries , the nomadic herders would follow the water or the grass.
the herds and deserts were moving long before the naked ape stepped into the picture. The areas in the rift valley – the cradle of naked- apedom were alot more lush than they currently are and mr.and mrs. first naked ape werent to invent fire or CO2 emmissions for another 750000 years,
Well as Marvin would say “that makes me very angry!”
shaken….right on the money…the hypocrisy of the librano/moonbat crowd is beyond pale….diesel volvos, suv’s, 5000 sq ft log homes, 3000 sq ft cottages, I could go on and on….yet, because they recycle(counter environmental practice) and push their weenie euro lawnmowers, they think they are saving the planet…pathetic…MOONBAT IDIOTS!
Letter in today’s Toronto Star. The correspondent might be upset about global warming, but he has bigger fish to fry.
His knickers are in a twist because Canada’s getting the scientific information from – THE AMERICANS!
===================
Let’s start thinking for ourselves
January 05, 2007
I am upset top green activists in Canada feel they have to rely on predictions from NASA that most ice in the Arctic will disappear in the next few decades when there are plenty of Canadian researchers closer to the ice who are saying the same thing. Does it sound better and more official to their colonial minds to hear it from the United States? Let’s get in the habit of thinking for ourselves.
Rob Konduros, Cambridge, Ont.
As usual Bollocks, you point to some ecological issue and, automatically, human-induced climate change is the culprit. Here’s some news for you, climate DOES ACTUALLY CHANGE WITHOUT HUMAN INTERVENTION!!!!
Anecdotal evidence is insufficient as justification for human-induced, or any other kind of climate change.
We have had unusually cold weather on Vancouver Island; I guess you would agree that is proof of the coming ice age.
Maybe you should review Suzuki’s 1980 speech about global cooling!
Of course you’re right, we should dismantle western economies, so China and India can burn the oil. That will be a big help.
…i know there is intelligent life out there…
…they haven’t tried to contact us yet…
Just remember that you’re standing on a planet that’s evolving
And revolving at 900 miles an hour,
That’s orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it’s reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at 40,000 miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the Milky Way.
Our galaxy itself contains 100 billion stars
It’s 100,000 light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, 16,000 light years thick
But out by us its just 3,000 light years wide
We’re 30,000 light years from galactic central point,
We go round every 200 million years
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding Universe.
The Universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light you know,
12 million miles a minute, and that’s the fastest speed there
is.
So remember when you’re feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space
Because there’ bugger all down here on earth
bollocks: “…I wonder what all those cattle herders in the new desertified areas of africa think of all this as the herd dies of thirst.”
Probably about the same thoughts as farmers in North Africa and Felix Arabia had when their fields and orchards were overcome by desertification more than a millenium ago. I suppose that was caused by all those farting camels and Arab campfires.
Denver is only 39 degrees, 48 minutes north latitude.
How many people died in this snowstorm? How many houses were actually destroyed? Those aren’t meant as flippant or PC questions; if very few, it strikes me as a significant difference between Katrina and the snowstorm.
James, it’s all about preparation. Maybe the people of New Orleans should have invested in a boat, after all they do live below sea level.
Hey marvin needs all that water for his ELUDUIM Q-36 EXPLOSIVE SPACE MODULATOR and of course for all those INSTANT MARTIANS