And anhydrous ammonia.
So, I’m out for a few hours. It’s a reader tips/open thread post.
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83 Replies to ““A” Is For April”
Texas,
You bring up the best point so far. My children are 21 and 19. All I got was a few paultry tax credits for childcare.
Why should the state butt their noses into this in the first place. You want kids, be prepared to pay for them.
Torontonians like bcl are all for the idea of government kiddie-barns because that’s where these facilities would be — in big cities where the Liberal votes are. Parents in Consort, Alberta or Crow Lake, Ontario wouldn’t have access to the program, they’d just pay for it.
Idea! Better than sending the homeless to Saskatchewan (where they will just head to alberta with the rest of Saskatchewan), how about moving them to the one of several ghost towns that have sprouted up after a major industry pulls out? Say Lynn Lake, eliot Lake or that one in BC. all former company towns that have only a security guard there to keep an eye on the racoons. The ones I’ve read about have schools, recreation centres and tons of housing. Get some of those social engineers out and figure out what can be made, produced etc to make these people contributers to society.
Texas,
Even better, your right there are lots of deserted places in Canada. These places like you’ve mentioned have buildings that could be spruced up using former homeless labour and money presently allocated for band-aid solutions.
End of problem.
I have no problem with the government assisting the truly needy with institutional child care, but I don’t see the fairness in a universal government-run child care system with no assistance for families who sacrifice one income in order to care for their kids at home. Why is a two-income family with their kids in an institutional day care more deserving of assistance with the cost of child care than is the one-income family raising their kids at home?
Choice is good. Go Conservatives.
Watched PMSH this morning. How can anyone disagree with wanting the legal age for consentual sex raised from 14 to 16 years of age. I applaud this move 100%. There are a lot of very sick people out there, we need to protect our young teenagers be it a girl or a boy at 14 NO adult has the right to say it was mutual. Getting tough on crime, yes! To many times the penalty just doesn’t fit the crime. The police are frustrated,by the time they have the paper work done, most of these low lifes are back on the street. We need to make the roads in our country and the streets in the citys safe again.
Mary M:
Raising the age of consent in light of the recent ruling on sex clubs seems to make sense to me.
It would also harmonize the age of consent with the US so we won’t be as attractive a hang out for pedophile predators.
Secondly, while those who are 14 may be physically mature enough to be sexually competent; one could reasonably posit that they are not mentally mature enough to responsibly have children themselves. There may be exceptions but I would wager that would be a very small minority.
Thirdly, if one is required to have parents consent to obtain a learners licence to operate a motor vehicle, why is the age of consent 14 to operate one’s sexual equipment?
Should one’s sexual equipment require a learner’s permit? Sexual road hazards include pregnancy, STDs, AIDs, etc. Where are the rules of the sexual road on the highway of life?
Hey, a new government post:
“Minister Responsible for Love”
then of course one could have the
“‘VICE’ Minister Responsible for Love”.
Hans: I can tell you of one recent case which makes me sick. A man 35+ (and I use that term loosely) picks up a 15 year old girl (no licence), both get stinking drunk, let’s her drive his fancy truck. They get into an accident and leave. Police persuit, ending up with vechicle surrounded with weapons drawn. You tell me what would of happened if this accident had not happened? You tell me who was suppose to be an adult in this situation? Which one is the guilty one? Men only go after 15 years olds for one thing……. We have to bring some morals back into this world, raising the age is just a step in the right direction.
texas…
don’t know the status of the other abandoned towns but elliot lake is a thriving senior citizens community and doing very well.
bigcitylib is once again doing nothing to to disuade me of the predjudice which his moniker engenders in my soul.
Spaces, spaces, spaces. Who is asking for these spaces anyway?? Not me. Maybe we need some, but in the small towns that I lived in until recently, there was no real need for daycare spaces. People had neighbours and relatives look after their kids. In my family, we chose to have Mom stay home and be there for them. (A novel and misogynist idea, I know). No head start programs, no early childhood education. And lo and behold, once they started school, they were just as far ahead as the kids who had been in daycare (we lived in Calgary by then). In fact, they were farther ahead than most of them. And, they have had a good home life, with lots of Mom and Dad time. Can’t get those years back ya know.
Why anyone would think that I wanted my tax dollars spent on another bloated social program geared toward big city liberals is beyond me. Why should my taxes be used to pay for cheap daycare for the two lawyer household in Toronto?? Help for single moms I can get behind. Universal daycare? No way. Not to mention early childhood engineering …. um … I mean education. *shudder*
bcl said: “Harper didn’t win, he just failed to lose” HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! That’s right. The election was a Harper failure. Now let’s see if you can somehow spin it as a Liberal success.
Seriously, if that is the level of Liberal thinking these days, the Tories are gonna be in power a long long time. Keep up the good work bcl.
BCL is a floater in a porcelin bowl.
Just mentally flush and stop engaging him.
He will eventually go away.
it is pointless to try to reason with an idiot.
Got that? Of course if you like allowing him to raise you blood pressure, then take a pill and have at er.
Rick Casson introduced a private members bill re age of consent. It has been a pet project of his, since he was first elected years ago. This bill actually made it to a vote in the house of commons, and was defeated by martins government, the ndp and the bloc. There were many letters to editors and columns written about Choice, etc. Watch for all these writters & bloggers to now support this. I think it is one reason many voted against martin on Jan 23. Glad to see it is in the news again. When was the age lowered to 14 and by whom. Svend had a lot to say about it, he was against it.
Actually MaryT, no one in recent history lowered the age of consent; it has pretty much been 14 for about 90 years. In light of the current internet lurings etc., I’m in favour of seeing it raised to 16. See below an excerpt from a document prepared by the Library of Parliament which sets out the evolution of the age of consent in Canada:
[…]
As pointed out in the 1984 Badgley Report on Sexual Offences Against Children, Canada has a long history of prohibiting sexual intercourse with young females, regardless of their consent. Only girls under 12 were absolutely unable to consent to sexual intercourse until 1890, when the age limit was raised to 14. With the advent of the Criminal Code in 1892, the strict prohibition against sexual intercourse was retained for girls under 14 (not married to the accused) and the law was strengthened to make an accused�s belief about the young woman�s age irrelevant. That age limit has not changed and remains in place today, with narrow exceptions for consensual activity between young persons less than two years apart in age.
Over time, the Canadian criminal law also provided qualified protection from sexual exploitation for females over 14. For example, the Badgley Report notes that seduction of a girl over 12 and under 16 “of previously chaste character” was made an offence in 1886. The offence was retained in the 1892 Criminal Code, in respect of girls between 14 and 16, and remained in force until 1920, when the offence was changed to prohibit “sexual intercourse.” After 1920, the question of who was more to “blame” became an issue that could lead to acquittal but the offence remained in force until 1988.
In addition to those offences reviewed above, the “seduction” of a female under 18 “under promise of marriage” was made an offence in Canada in 1886 and amended in 1887 to apply to females under 21. In 1920, the offence of “seduction” (without reference to promise of marriage) was made applicable to girls “of previously chaste character” between 16 and 18.
From this it will be seen that a complete ban on sexual intercourse never did apply to girls over 14.
[…]
It came as a bit of a surprise to me, anyway…
I happen to like the concept you have the kids you look after them , it isn’t your neighbors job to fund your “babysitter”. You had the little “novelty” start teaching the child something early – self reliance
Have debts and two have to work to make ends meet? Its not your neighbours problem either it yours.
Deal with it.
Age of consent was lowered by the Liberals about four years ago. Its been open season on children since then.
Damn glad we have a decent party in power. Heres hoping they bring in mandatory long sentances for sex predators.
Address by the Prime Minister on the Child Care Choice Facing Parliament
April 18, 2006
Burnaby, B.C
Excerpt:
My friends, the old approach was a failure.
And that�s just not good enough for parents who have been waiting and waiting for child care.
As one mother remarked to me during the campaign:
�The Liberals promised child care when my daughter was four and in pre-school. Now she�s seventeen and waiting for them to break their post-secondary education promises.�
It�s time for a new approach.
An approach that cuts out the bureaucratic middleman.
An approach that directly supports parents.
An approach that actually creates spaces.
The Government�s Plan for Childcare
Over the past 13 years, we�ve been treated to a lot of fancy words on childcare.
But the truth of the matter is that not a single Canadian family has received direct financial support.
Under the Liberals, not a single daycare space was created.
This year, as we phase out the funding agreements that were concluded with the provinces, we will have the time to put in place a new program that seeks to create actual daycare spaces.
For starters, this spring we�re going to include in our first budget a family allowance for childcare worth $1200 a year per child under the age of six.
The question that the opposition must answer is simple.
Do they support the $1200 allowance for children, or do they support the status quo � in other words, nothing at all? + more …
From the Prime Minister’s Web Site (http://www.pm.gc.ca/
Blogwell Fray (1:45 p.m.): You’re a generous guy, aren’t you?
My daughters are 23 and 19–my 19-year-old turns 19 today, and is thrilled that she can now drink beer in public places legitimately! I reminded her earlier today, via cell phone as she is at university, that along with this privilege comes responsibility–and she lovingly said, with eyeballs just imperceptibly rolling (I could HEAR them), “I know that, Mom.” I think she does.
Like you, BF, my one-income family (not a banker’s, lawyer’s or even a teacher’s) got only short shrift from the government, in the form of paltry income tax credits (you’d think we stay-at-home parents only watched TV, with our hair in curlers, holding a ciggie in one hand and a coffee in another–the perception of a young CBC producer who I had the pleasure of talking with one day).
But I am not bitter that PMSH’s government has finally seen fit to offer all families choice, by offering $1200 PER CHILD UNDER SIX. The MSM keeps emphasizing $1200, forgetting–probably on purpose, as many of them have only one child or none–that that amount is PER CHILD. In our family, we would have got $2400 a year which, given our family’s income, would have been manna from heaven. The only people who joke about $1200 per child are those living on five- or six-figure incomes.
The rest of us plebs welcome the recognition from the government that most stay-at-home parents not only raise–usually–responsible citizens (it is in our better interests to do so, seeing as our kids are with us 24/7) they also contribute to their communities in all of the volunteer activities they’re involved in. At least, that’s my experience–and that’s what I did.
I am delighted that younger families than ours are FINALLY being helped out. Our children are, in fact, the most precious resource that any country has–more precious than gas, oil, lumber–but you wouldn’t know this in Canada. We’re going to get our collective butt kicked really soon because we have so few children being born and nurtured in our country. Starting with schools closing or being drastically shrunk, because we’re seeing only 7 to 10 kids register in kindergarten (and it’s happening right now) we’re also headed to very difficult times because all of us Baby Boomers are going to need care and there are going to be fewer younger people a) to enter the work force and b) to be taxed for all the services we will require. It’s a pretty simple equation–and equally amazing that governments in the past 20 years have ignored the obvious, while lining their pockets.
We’ve brought this looming crisis on ourselves, and our governments–who have denigrated families and family life, thanks to “liberated” feminists and their friends in high places: BTW, thanks a lot–need a kick in the butt for their lack of vision and concern. Of course, the Chretiens and Martins, and their cronies, have feathered their nests and their kids’ and grandkids’, while the rest of us have been having to learn how to live in an increasingly Third-world-type of Canada.
The good news is that maybe some of us will learn to pull together, like they had to do in the Depression and like most Third World people do, to help one another and to value more than wealth and bling and big and fancy and no kids.
My two daughters are probably my greatest “success.” They’ve told me, “Mom, we’ll never put you in an old folks’ home. You took care of us, and we’re going to take care of you and Dad.” I know, if at all possible, they’ll make good on that promise.
I guess a mom can be forgiven for waxing nostalgic–and a little fierce–when thinking back 19 years to the birth of her child…There’s nothing like parenthood to make you grow up, because in a unique way you realize, right after your child’s birth, that you are responsible for another human being, that if you don’t get up in the morning, if you don’t bring home the bacon, if you don’t teach him/her how to love, to be generous, to be polite, to care, no one else is going to do it.
This CPC policy of $1200/child under six at least recognizes the huge responsibility that parents have, in a way that no other recent government has. And a pox on the NDP and the Liberals–and the BQ–who think that just anyone can care for your kid. That’s not true and it is a lie that needs to be challenged. PMSH and his government are challenging that dangerous fallacy.
I agree with your post NKOTB but only a liberal or socialist government embracing idiotic ideals think they alone can teach one thing you forgot “tolerance”, where there is no such thing as an opinion as to what is right and wrong.
Back to anhydrous ammonia. [I’ve been at work all day.] The “smelling salts” used by menopausal women to deflect hot flashes and/or others suffering from “the vapours” back in the day was/is ammomium nitrate, a salt-like naturally occuring mineral (still mined in South America -Argentina?). My mother had some and what a whiff!! In the early days, the gas (NH3) was moved by rail and truck under much less pressure than today. A consequence was that the couplings were less strict than today. I remmeber seeing a picture of NH3 being used near Lanigan about 50 years ago. Not too much “responsible care” going on there. The fertilizer guys tell you to have lots of water around just in case. Lots. Really lots.
In reading Paul Wells and listening to Duffy on the Bill Goode show this morning its pretty obvious that Harper has a deal with the NDP and the Bloc to pass the budget. And it goes even further. Its also apparent that the Cons, dippers and bloc are trying to push the Libs into oblivion.(Now wouldn’t that be nice)
I’m not sure which is more entertaining. Watching the libs try and find a new leader or watching them get skewered in parliament.
As an aside I heard the Libs are wooing Svend baby for the leaders job. He seems to embody every qaulity the libs find appealing.
So BCL,you mentioned the Soo. Is that the “big city” in BCL. HaHaHaHaHah.
Horny toad
Excellent post, NKOTB…you expressed it succinctly and intelligently…
On a related issue, that being personal responsibility versus reliance on government: Is it just me, or have our seniors become a bunch of whiners, constantly complaining that they are not getting enough support from government (substitute term: taxpayers).
I’m within stretching distance (10 years) of qualifying as a “senior, but I didn’t wake up this morning and come to the realization that I may start having to prepare for retirement.
But seemingly on a constant basis, I hear these “senior” representatives bleating about the low levels of government pensions. I put money away for retirement, big money. It hurt at the time, but, short term pain, long term gain. On what planet have all of these complainers been living?
For clarification purposes, the 7:59 post was mine, not NKOTB…musta typed into the wrong place…
Teh n00 hawtness:
You heard about it here first at SDA: Truth Markets
“Proposed is a system which achieves two goals:
1. Create an unbiased and trusted rating mechanism for claims that purport to be true statements as well as a related rating mechanism for those who make truth claims.
2. Offer incentive for such a system to be created and self-sustaining without undermining the credibility or impartiality of the system itself.” http://www.truthmarkets.com/
From the blog of the guy behind it, Rafe Furst:
“This concept was created by Rafe Furst in order to exist as an independent watchdog over news media, corporations and politicians. While it is designed to work off of everyone’s self-interesest, the emergent behavior of the system as a whole is that of a very reliable bullshit meter. I don’t have the time to construct a proper truth market at the moment, but I am posting the concept in the hopes of finding a taker to do so.” http://www.myspace.com/truthmarkets
You need to learn about IPTV:
“Over the last decade, the growth of satellite service, the rise of digital cable, and the birth of HDTV have all left their mark on the television landscape. Now, a new delivery method threatens to shake things up even more powerfully. Internet Protocol Television (IPTV) has arrived, and backed by the deep pockets of the telecommunications industry, it’s poised to offer more interactivity and bring a hefty dose of competition to the business of selling TV.” http://arstechnica.com/guides/other/iptv.ars
Back to painting. I never gave a lot of thought of how the logos got on trucks, trailers etc … thought it was a LogoMaster 4020 DLX + … live and learn.
Watched Duffy this afternoon and he made a big deal about “Harper” not keeping his promises made in the election of 2004!!! Sometimes I wonder about Duffy, he seems OK some days but his reasoning to-day was a little off. The Prime Minister will keep his promises that he made in the latest election (forget promises made in previous elections—different place, different time)
Bigcitylib or whatever you call yourself;I’m reading this post late,usually don’t respond if time is long past,but you really annoy me! The plan says “CHILD CARE” not day care! If the parents want to spend the money on a stick of gum,or a tank of gas,it’s their choice! Why should everyone pay for somebody else’s day care?
It’s the parents tax money,just as it is yours.If you want your tax money going for day care,go ahead;but don’t expect me to!
PMSH is proving to be the best PM Canada has ever had – I for one, feel proud of Canada (it is a funny feeling to get used to , I have been embarassed for my country for many years) every time I listin to him speak. PMSH is positive, he does not use ‘but’ in every sentence as the ‘preferred conjunction’ like the Liberanos, the dippers and the MSM. The use of ‘but’ when ‘and’ or ‘or’ would be more appropriate really irritates me.
Watching the Press Conference, today, from Vancouver, I was further reminded of why I voted FOR Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party of Canada; PMSH answered questions without girly gushing or beligerant thugery but he did not kow tow to the press gang. He did not try to convince them, he told them. I really like that style in a Prime Minister. I think that the good years have finally arrived for this beautiful country. The citizens have been used and abused, now they are given respect and courtesy by the government they chose. I don’t belive that many people will want to go back to the bad old Liberano/Dipper days. As for the family allowance – Mary M, NKOTB and Bruce said for me what I would have said in the above posts. Well done.
I’m sorry I have been late getting back to this post, but I have been working all day….
Blogwell Fray: re your 11:09 am posting
You may have been an ammonia technician, but you are still an idiot. There is no way that you have ever worked with NH3 if you come up with stupid comments equating it’s release to “smelling salts”.
The stuff attracts itself to moisture. It will freeze your eyeballs, burn your skin, damage your lungs and kill you in a heartbeat (There really is no such thing as “long term” exposure to NH3 as you suggest. You smell the stuff from even a small leak and you get the hell out. You have a coupling bust and if it gives you a blast, you are fcuked).
How do I know?….I was certified to train in the proper safety procedures and handling of the product. I worked with the product, and I could tell you some scary things about it. It is nasty stuff.
So Blogwell Fray: please fcuk off, and stay fcuked off, and don’t come back until you have something useful and accurate to contribute.
…did anyone watch KSPS Public TV the other night on GLOBAL DIMMING?
Says because of the pollution and water vapor in our atmosphere as a result of global warming, our sun’s rays are being “dimmed” hitting the earth, and concequently cooling it. But because of global warming, we don’t notice it as much.
Vicious circle. More glaciers melt, more CO2 and water vapour put into our atmosphere, more global dimming happens. Doesn’t have to be the sun doing it, we are creating our own green house.
They didn’t go on to say global warming was a result of CO2, but of pollution and man’s industrial usage (read smog), so give them credit for not jumping on the Koyoto bandwagon. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_prog_summary.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming
During 9/11 people noticed how clear the sky was…lack of aircraft contrails…
9/11 Families Testify For Moussaoui – And What The AP Won’t Tell You
Sweetness & Light ^ | April 20, 2006 | N/A
Posted on 04/20/2006 5:12:21 AM PDT by Sam Hill
From the terrorist enabling Associated Press [excerpted]: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1618183/posts
John,
I’ll be polite eventhough your not.
Please refrain from vulgar uninformed posting. It convinces nobody and shows lack of good judgement.
…Going Nuclear, A Green Makes the Case By Patrick Moore…
“Green” in this case means there is more $$$ being a spokesperson representing the nuclear industry.
Texas,
You bring up the best point so far. My children are 21 and 19. All I got was a few paultry tax credits for childcare.
Why should the state butt their noses into this in the first place. You want kids, be prepared to pay for them.
Torontonians like bcl are all for the idea of government kiddie-barns because that’s where these facilities would be — in big cities where the Liberal votes are. Parents in Consort, Alberta or Crow Lake, Ontario wouldn’t have access to the program, they’d just pay for it.
Idea! Better than sending the homeless to Saskatchewan (where they will just head to alberta with the rest of Saskatchewan), how about moving them to the one of several ghost towns that have sprouted up after a major industry pulls out? Say Lynn Lake, eliot Lake or that one in BC. all former company towns that have only a security guard there to keep an eye on the racoons. The ones I’ve read about have schools, recreation centres and tons of housing. Get some of those social engineers out and figure out what can be made, produced etc to make these people contributers to society.
Texas,
Even better, your right there are lots of deserted places in Canada. These places like you’ve mentioned have buildings that could be spruced up using former homeless labour and money presently allocated for band-aid solutions.
End of problem.
I have no problem with the government assisting the truly needy with institutional child care, but I don’t see the fairness in a universal government-run child care system with no assistance for families who sacrifice one income in order to care for their kids at home. Why is a two-income family with their kids in an institutional day care more deserving of assistance with the cost of child care than is the one-income family raising their kids at home?
Choice is good. Go Conservatives.
Watched PMSH this morning. How can anyone disagree with wanting the legal age for consentual sex raised from 14 to 16 years of age. I applaud this move 100%. There are a lot of very sick people out there, we need to protect our young teenagers be it a girl or a boy at 14 NO adult has the right to say it was mutual. Getting tough on crime, yes! To many times the penalty just doesn’t fit the crime. The police are frustrated,by the time they have the paper work done, most of these low lifes are back on the street. We need to make the roads in our country and the streets in the citys safe again.
Link to Lost Budgie’s homeless story:
http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2006/04/breaking-news-toronto-hiring.html
Mary M:
Raising the age of consent in light of the recent ruling on sex clubs seems to make sense to me.
It would also harmonize the age of consent with the US so we won’t be as attractive a hang out for pedophile predators.
Secondly, while those who are 14 may be physically mature enough to be sexually competent; one could reasonably posit that they are not mentally mature enough to responsibly have children themselves. There may be exceptions but I would wager that would be a very small minority.
Thirdly, if one is required to have parents consent to obtain a learners licence to operate a motor vehicle, why is the age of consent 14 to operate one’s sexual equipment?
Should one’s sexual equipment require a learner’s permit? Sexual road hazards include pregnancy, STDs, AIDs, etc. Where are the rules of the sexual road on the highway of life?
Hey, a new government post:
“Minister Responsible for Love”
then of course one could have the
“‘VICE’ Minister Responsible for Love”.
Hans: I can tell you of one recent case which makes me sick. A man 35+ (and I use that term loosely) picks up a 15 year old girl (no licence), both get stinking drunk, let’s her drive his fancy truck. They get into an accident and leave. Police persuit, ending up with vechicle surrounded with weapons drawn. You tell me what would of happened if this accident had not happened? You tell me who was suppose to be an adult in this situation? Which one is the guilty one? Men only go after 15 years olds for one thing……. We have to bring some morals back into this world, raising the age is just a step in the right direction.
texas…
don’t know the status of the other abandoned towns but elliot lake is a thriving senior citizens community and doing very well.
bigcitylib is once again doing nothing to to disuade me of the predjudice which his moniker engenders in my soul.
Spaces, spaces, spaces. Who is asking for these spaces anyway?? Not me. Maybe we need some, but in the small towns that I lived in until recently, there was no real need for daycare spaces. People had neighbours and relatives look after their kids. In my family, we chose to have Mom stay home and be there for them. (A novel and misogynist idea, I know). No head start programs, no early childhood education. And lo and behold, once they started school, they were just as far ahead as the kids who had been in daycare (we lived in Calgary by then). In fact, they were farther ahead than most of them. And, they have had a good home life, with lots of Mom and Dad time. Can’t get those years back ya know.
Why anyone would think that I wanted my tax dollars spent on another bloated social program geared toward big city liberals is beyond me. Why should my taxes be used to pay for cheap daycare for the two lawyer household in Toronto?? Help for single moms I can get behind. Universal daycare? No way. Not to mention early childhood engineering …. um … I mean education. *shudder*
bcl said: “Harper didn’t win, he just failed to lose” HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! That’s right. The election was a Harper failure. Now let’s see if you can somehow spin it as a Liberal success.
Seriously, if that is the level of Liberal thinking these days, the Tories are gonna be in power a long long time. Keep up the good work bcl.
BCL is a floater in a porcelin bowl.
Just mentally flush and stop engaging him.
He will eventually go away.
it is pointless to try to reason with an idiot.
Got that? Of course if you like allowing him to raise you blood pressure, then take a pill and have at er.
Rick Casson introduced a private members bill re age of consent. It has been a pet project of his, since he was first elected years ago. This bill actually made it to a vote in the house of commons, and was defeated by martins government, the ndp and the bloc. There were many letters to editors and columns written about Choice, etc. Watch for all these writters & bloggers to now support this. I think it is one reason many voted against martin on Jan 23. Glad to see it is in the news again. When was the age lowered to 14 and by whom. Svend had a lot to say about it, he was against it.
Actually MaryT, no one in recent history lowered the age of consent; it has pretty much been 14 for about 90 years. In light of the current internet lurings etc., I’m in favour of seeing it raised to 16. See below an excerpt from a document prepared by the Library of Parliament which sets out the evolution of the age of consent in Canada:
[…]
As pointed out in the 1984 Badgley Report on Sexual Offences Against Children, Canada has a long history of prohibiting sexual intercourse with young females, regardless of their consent. Only girls under 12 were absolutely unable to consent to sexual intercourse until 1890, when the age limit was raised to 14. With the advent of the Criminal Code in 1892, the strict prohibition against sexual intercourse was retained for girls under 14 (not married to the accused) and the law was strengthened to make an accused�s belief about the young woman�s age irrelevant. That age limit has not changed and remains in place today, with narrow exceptions for consensual activity between young persons less than two years apart in age.
Over time, the Canadian criminal law also provided qualified protection from sexual exploitation for females over 14. For example, the Badgley Report notes that seduction of a girl over 12 and under 16 “of previously chaste character” was made an offence in 1886. The offence was retained in the 1892 Criminal Code, in respect of girls between 14 and 16, and remained in force until 1920, when the offence was changed to prohibit “sexual intercourse.” After 1920, the question of who was more to “blame” became an issue that could lead to acquittal but the offence remained in force until 1988.
In addition to those offences reviewed above, the “seduction” of a female under 18 “under promise of marriage” was made an offence in Canada in 1886 and amended in 1887 to apply to females under 21. In 1920, the offence of “seduction” (without reference to promise of marriage) was made applicable to girls “of previously chaste character” between 16 and 18.
From this it will be seen that a complete ban on sexual intercourse never did apply to girls over 14.
[…]
It came as a bit of a surprise to me, anyway…
I happen to like the concept you have the kids you look after them , it isn’t your neighbors job to fund your “babysitter”. You had the little “novelty” start teaching the child something early – self reliance
Have debts and two have to work to make ends meet? Its not your neighbours problem either it yours.
Deal with it.
Age of consent was lowered by the Liberals about four years ago. Its been open season on children since then.
Damn glad we have a decent party in power. Heres hoping they bring in mandatory long sentances for sex predators.
Address by the Prime Minister on the Child Care Choice Facing Parliament
April 18, 2006
Burnaby, B.C
Excerpt:
My friends, the old approach was a failure.
And that�s just not good enough for parents who have been waiting and waiting for child care.
As one mother remarked to me during the campaign:
�The Liberals promised child care when my daughter was four and in pre-school. Now she�s seventeen and waiting for them to break their post-secondary education promises.�
It�s time for a new approach.
An approach that cuts out the bureaucratic middleman.
An approach that directly supports parents.
An approach that actually creates spaces.
The Government�s Plan for Childcare
Over the past 13 years, we�ve been treated to a lot of fancy words on childcare.
But the truth of the matter is that not a single Canadian family has received direct financial support.
Under the Liberals, not a single daycare space was created.
This year, as we phase out the funding agreements that were concluded with the provinces, we will have the time to put in place a new program that seeks to create actual daycare spaces.
For starters, this spring we�re going to include in our first budget a family allowance for childcare worth $1200 a year per child under the age of six.
The question that the opposition must answer is simple.
Do they support the $1200 allowance for children, or do they support the status quo � in other words, nothing at all? + more …
From the Prime Minister’s Web Site (http://www.pm.gc.ca/
Blogwell Fray (1:45 p.m.): You’re a generous guy, aren’t you?
My daughters are 23 and 19–my 19-year-old turns 19 today, and is thrilled that she can now drink beer in public places legitimately! I reminded her earlier today, via cell phone as she is at university, that along with this privilege comes responsibility–and she lovingly said, with eyeballs just imperceptibly rolling (I could HEAR them), “I know that, Mom.” I think she does.
Like you, BF, my one-income family (not a banker’s, lawyer’s or even a teacher’s) got only short shrift from the government, in the form of paltry income tax credits (you’d think we stay-at-home parents only watched TV, with our hair in curlers, holding a ciggie in one hand and a coffee in another–the perception of a young CBC producer who I had the pleasure of talking with one day).
But I am not bitter that PMSH’s government has finally seen fit to offer all families choice, by offering $1200 PER CHILD UNDER SIX. The MSM keeps emphasizing $1200, forgetting–probably on purpose, as many of them have only one child or none–that that amount is PER CHILD. In our family, we would have got $2400 a year which, given our family’s income, would have been manna from heaven. The only people who joke about $1200 per child are those living on five- or six-figure incomes.
The rest of us plebs welcome the recognition from the government that most stay-at-home parents not only raise–usually–responsible citizens (it is in our better interests to do so, seeing as our kids are with us 24/7) they also contribute to their communities in all of the volunteer activities they’re involved in. At least, that’s my experience–and that’s what I did.
I am delighted that younger families than ours are FINALLY being helped out. Our children are, in fact, the most precious resource that any country has–more precious than gas, oil, lumber–but you wouldn’t know this in Canada. We’re going to get our collective butt kicked really soon because we have so few children being born and nurtured in our country. Starting with schools closing or being drastically shrunk, because we’re seeing only 7 to 10 kids register in kindergarten (and it’s happening right now) we’re also headed to very difficult times because all of us Baby Boomers are going to need care and there are going to be fewer younger people a) to enter the work force and b) to be taxed for all the services we will require. It’s a pretty simple equation–and equally amazing that governments in the past 20 years have ignored the obvious, while lining their pockets.
We’ve brought this looming crisis on ourselves, and our governments–who have denigrated families and family life, thanks to “liberated” feminists and their friends in high places: BTW, thanks a lot–need a kick in the butt for their lack of vision and concern. Of course, the Chretiens and Martins, and their cronies, have feathered their nests and their kids’ and grandkids’, while the rest of us have been having to learn how to live in an increasingly Third-world-type of Canada.
The good news is that maybe some of us will learn to pull together, like they had to do in the Depression and like most Third World people do, to help one another and to value more than wealth and bling and big and fancy and no kids.
My two daughters are probably my greatest “success.” They’ve told me, “Mom, we’ll never put you in an old folks’ home. You took care of us, and we’re going to take care of you and Dad.” I know, if at all possible, they’ll make good on that promise.
I guess a mom can be forgiven for waxing nostalgic–and a little fierce–when thinking back 19 years to the birth of her child…There’s nothing like parenthood to make you grow up, because in a unique way you realize, right after your child’s birth, that you are responsible for another human being, that if you don’t get up in the morning, if you don’t bring home the bacon, if you don’t teach him/her how to love, to be generous, to be polite, to care, no one else is going to do it.
This CPC policy of $1200/child under six at least recognizes the huge responsibility that parents have, in a way that no other recent government has. And a pox on the NDP and the Liberals–and the BQ–who think that just anyone can care for your kid. That’s not true and it is a lie that needs to be challenged. PMSH and his government are challenging that dangerous fallacy.
I agree with your post NKOTB but only a liberal or socialist government embracing idiotic ideals think they alone can teach one thing you forgot “tolerance”, where there is no such thing as an opinion as to what is right and wrong.
Back to anhydrous ammonia. [I’ve been at work all day.] The “smelling salts” used by menopausal women to deflect hot flashes and/or others suffering from “the vapours” back in the day was/is ammomium nitrate, a salt-like naturally occuring mineral (still mined in South America -Argentina?). My mother had some and what a whiff!! In the early days, the gas (NH3) was moved by rail and truck under much less pressure than today. A consequence was that the couplings were less strict than today. I remmeber seeing a picture of NH3 being used near Lanigan about 50 years ago. Not too much “responsible care” going on there. The fertilizer guys tell you to have lots of water around just in case. Lots. Really lots.
In reading Paul Wells and listening to Duffy on the Bill Goode show this morning its pretty obvious that Harper has a deal with the NDP and the Bloc to pass the budget. And it goes even further. Its also apparent that the Cons, dippers and bloc are trying to push the Libs into oblivion.(Now wouldn’t that be nice)
I’m not sure which is more entertaining. Watching the libs try and find a new leader or watching them get skewered in parliament.
As an aside I heard the Libs are wooing Svend baby for the leaders job. He seems to embody every qaulity the libs find appealing.
So BCL,you mentioned the Soo. Is that the “big city” in BCL. HaHaHaHaHah.
Horny toad
Excellent post, NKOTB…you expressed it succinctly and intelligently…
On a related issue, that being personal responsibility versus reliance on government: Is it just me, or have our seniors become a bunch of whiners, constantly complaining that they are not getting enough support from government (substitute term: taxpayers).
I’m within stretching distance (10 years) of qualifying as a “senior, but I didn’t wake up this morning and come to the realization that I may start having to prepare for retirement.
But seemingly on a constant basis, I hear these “senior” representatives bleating about the low levels of government pensions. I put money away for retirement, big money. It hurt at the time, but, short term pain, long term gain. On what planet have all of these complainers been living?
For clarification purposes, the 7:59 post was mine, not NKOTB…musta typed into the wrong place…
Teh n00 hawtness:
You heard about it here first at SDA:
Truth Markets
“Proposed is a system which achieves two goals:
1. Create an unbiased and trusted rating mechanism for claims that purport to be true statements as well as a related rating mechanism for those who make truth claims.
2. Offer incentive for such a system to be created and self-sustaining without undermining the credibility or impartiality of the system itself.”
http://www.truthmarkets.com/
From the blog of the guy behind it, Rafe Furst:
“This concept was created by Rafe Furst in order to exist as an independent watchdog over news media, corporations and politicians. While it is designed to work off of everyone’s self-interesest, the emergent behavior of the system as a whole is that of a very reliable bullshit meter. I don’t have the time to construct a proper truth market at the moment, but I am posting the concept in the hopes of finding a taker to do so.”
http://www.myspace.com/truthmarkets
You need to learn about IPTV:
“Over the last decade, the growth of satellite service, the rise of digital cable, and the birth of HDTV have all left their mark on the television landscape. Now, a new delivery method threatens to shake things up even more powerfully. Internet Protocol Television (IPTV) has arrived, and backed by the deep pockets of the telecommunications industry, it’s poised to offer more interactivity and bring a hefty dose of competition to the business of selling TV.”
http://arstechnica.com/guides/other/iptv.ars
Back to painting. I never gave a lot of thought of how the logos got on trucks, trailers etc … thought it was a LogoMaster 4020 DLX + … live and learn.
Watched Duffy this afternoon and he made a big deal about “Harper” not keeping his promises made in the election of 2004!!! Sometimes I wonder about Duffy, he seems OK some days but his reasoning to-day was a little off. The Prime Minister will keep his promises that he made in the latest election (forget promises made in previous elections—different place, different time)
Bigcitylib or whatever you call yourself;I’m reading this post late,usually don’t respond if time is long past,but you really annoy me! The plan says “CHILD CARE” not day care! If the parents want to spend the money on a stick of gum,or a tank of gas,it’s their choice! Why should everyone pay for somebody else’s day care?
It’s the parents tax money,just as it is yours.If you want your tax money going for day care,go ahead;but don’t expect me to!
PMSH is proving to be the best PM Canada has ever had – I for one, feel proud of Canada (it is a funny feeling to get used to , I have been embarassed for my country for many years) every time I listin to him speak. PMSH is positive, he does not use ‘but’ in every sentence as the ‘preferred conjunction’ like the Liberanos, the dippers and the MSM. The use of ‘but’ when ‘and’ or ‘or’ would be more appropriate really irritates me.
Watching the Press Conference, today, from Vancouver, I was further reminded of why I voted FOR Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party of Canada; PMSH answered questions without girly gushing or beligerant thugery but he did not kow tow to the press gang. He did not try to convince them, he told them. I really like that style in a Prime Minister. I think that the good years have finally arrived for this beautiful country. The citizens have been used and abused, now they are given respect and courtesy by the government they chose. I don’t belive that many people will want to go back to the bad old Liberano/Dipper days. As for the family allowance – Mary M, NKOTB and Bruce said for me what I would have said in the above posts. Well done.
I’m sorry I have been late getting back to this post, but I have been working all day….
Blogwell Fray: re your 11:09 am posting
You may have been an ammonia technician, but you are still an idiot. There is no way that you have ever worked with NH3 if you come up with stupid comments equating it’s release to “smelling salts”.
The stuff attracts itself to moisture. It will freeze your eyeballs, burn your skin, damage your lungs and kill you in a heartbeat (There really is no such thing as “long term” exposure to NH3 as you suggest. You smell the stuff from even a small leak and you get the hell out. You have a coupling bust and if it gives you a blast, you are fcuked).
How do I know?….I was certified to train in the proper safety procedures and handling of the product. I worked with the product, and I could tell you some scary things about it. It is nasty stuff.
So Blogwell Fray: please fcuk off, and stay fcuked off, and don’t come back until you have something useful and accurate to contribute.
…did anyone watch KSPS Public TV the other night on GLOBAL DIMMING?
Says because of the pollution and water vapor in our atmosphere as a result of global warming, our sun’s rays are being “dimmed” hitting the earth, and concequently cooling it. But because of global warming, we don’t notice it as much.
Vicious circle. More glaciers melt, more CO2 and water vapour put into our atmosphere, more global dimming happens. Doesn’t have to be the sun doing it, we are creating our own green house.
They didn’t go on to say global warming was a result of CO2, but of pollution and man’s industrial usage (read smog), so give them credit for not jumping on the Koyoto bandwagon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_prog_summary.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming
During 9/11 people noticed how clear the sky was…lack of aircraft contrails…
9/11 Families Testify For Moussaoui – And What The AP Won’t Tell You
Sweetness & Light ^ | April 20, 2006 | N/A
Posted on 04/20/2006 5:12:21 AM PDT by Sam Hill
From the terrorist enabling Associated Press [excerpted]:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1618183/posts
John,
I’ll be polite eventhough your not.
Please refrain from vulgar uninformed posting. It convinces nobody and shows lack of good judgement.
…Going Nuclear, A Green Makes the Case By Patrick Moore…
“Green” in this case means there is more $$$ being a spokesperson representing the nuclear industry.