Open Thread

I’m busy for a while this morning – so I’ll open this thread for comments, reader tips and day after election discussion.
Update: Jeremy Harrison is on radio right now over the results in the northern riding of Desnethe – Missinippi – Churchill River
– He was ahead by 200 votes until the last ballot box came in and lo and behold – it had 300 votes for the LIberals. That poll that put Liberal candidate over the top did not came in until 3 hours after the polls had closed
– some reserves had over 100% turnout
– there was campaign literature in the polling stations, and polling booths
– Liberal threats to aboriginal voters that they would not recieve cheques
There is going to be an official request for an investigation.
more: Advance Poll irregularities: poll clerks who refused to allow secret votes, who accompanied voters into the booths.
Footnote: I heard a report last night that the NDP brought a busload of students into a rural poll in Vanscoy and had them all signed in to vote.
Request: Can someone forward the poll results from Desnethe – Missinippi – Churchill River including (a) the number and (b) the sequences of which polls were tabulated first and how the final poll broke so dramatically from a pattern that had remained fairly consistant all evening, perhaps we can shed more light on this.

136 Replies to “Open Thread”

  1. Hey everybody there’s a terrific article on our new first lady at the Globe and Mail: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20060124/HARPERFAM24/National/Idx
    She sounds like a swell gal and reminds me of my own dear wife, so naturally I am stuck on her already. And there’s something about her you probably already know Kate, but I thought I would add it here anyway: “”I can drive anything” — and she can too, tractor, truck, and her beloved motorcycle. She likes the escape: On the bike, she’s not a wife, mom, politician-by-proxy or anything but herself.” You have a fellow compatriot at 24 Sussex, Kate.

  2. Phone call from the phoney to GG Jean. Phone call!
    Such tact, diplomacy, such ‘couth from a loser: Paul Martin, Jr.
    Make sure the silverware is counted before Loser leaves 24 Sussex Drive, Ottawa. Oh, & call the fumigators in ASAP after AdScam leaves for good. >>>
    Martin phones Governor General to resign
    Last Updated Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:20:07 EST
    CBC News
    Prime Minister Paul Martin called Governor General Micha�lle Jean on Tuesday morning to tell her he would resign following his party’s election loss on Monday. >>>> cbc.ca

  3. We in Alberta will be very vocal with our MPs about not letting one god-damn dime go to Vancouver/Montreal/Toronto.
    The hemp wearers can feed off themselves. Yes it’s great for the change in government, but those specific areas have shown their contempt for all that is good in Canada, so they should be a heavy fiscal penalty for such actions.

  4. In 1987 our new prime minister, speaking at the first convention of the Reform party said, “the ‘progressive’conservatives and the liberals and the NDP are the three heads of the same monster”!! It is imperative that we do some things immediatley and get them behind us!
    To help push one of these issues along as it pertains to freedom and property rights and comman sense I am calling for a…
    One Million Guns� Salute
    A reminder!!
    �We are reluctant to admit that we owe our liberties to men of a type that today we hate and fear-unruly men, disturbers of the peace, men who resent and denounce what Whitman called �the insolence of elected persons�. In a word, free men.�
    Gerald W Johnson (1890-1980)
    Attention:
    A call to all freedom loving Canadian farmers, ranchers, and sportsmen, big game hunters and gopher shooters. To all duck and goose hunting enthusiasts. To all collectors and target range shooters.
    We are calling for a one million gun salute; from coast to coast to demand the immediate rescinding of the offensive long barrel gun registry.
    From coast to coast let freedom ring with the sound of liberty from your 12 gauge, 22, or high-powered rifle.
    In a safe and responsible manner let the sound and echo of gun fire reverberate through out the hills, plains and forests of our home and native land as the clock strikes noon, central standard time on Saturday the 28th day of January!!
    A return to sanity, honesty and reality must be duly noted�lets remind our government, who brought them to the dance.
    Let your powder burn!
    Not a hunter�doesn�t matter, Post this, print this, copy and paste this,e-mail or fax this�to everyone! If you love freedom!

  5. Meanwhle . . . Ontario as a whole continues to hollow out its unionized manufacturing base. Buzz and his ilk are killing the industry. Ontario has enormous energy problems – Ontario Hydro is so far in debt that even Ontario might be introuble to pay up and Ontario will likely have to go cap in hand to Ottawa for $$ help. The Centre of the Universe (COTU) aka Toronto slps further into a delusion state of importance and marginalize their ability to influence the CBC. They wil be devasted when CBC World HQ is “reorgainized” by the Tories.
    meanwhile, oil is going to $100/barrel, the west gets stronger, richer and more critical to North American security.
    The country is going through a 10 – 20 year seismic shift to the right/west. Harper needs to get the Alberta and BC HoC seat shortage rectified
    The pendulum that Trudeau pushed to the left is coming back through neutral on the way to moderate right.
    Don’t know what the Atlantic region is going to do but there is going to be less government largesse. If they stay voting with their pimp/drug dealer Liberals then they are in for a world of self inflicted hurt.
    Things could be going faster, but the train has left the station and the direction and last stop are figured out.

  6. I, too, was depressed about the narrow victory. But then I remembered that George Bush won the Presidency in 2000 with a lower popular vote than Al Gore. He was re-elected four years later.
    The lesson?
    A victory is a victory. It’s what you do with it that counts.

  7. You’re all worrying about stupid things when we have electoral fraud on the horizon.
    My own side embarrassess me.
    OUR side has much naivete. Their side has much evil.
    Whatever. It’s a draw.

  8. Right after the CPC gets the Ethiics package through parliament, they should immediately start on a clean air act. Obviously it is the smog that people in the three largest cities breathe that is causing a serious problems in their mental accuity. Just looking out at the bright, clear, sunny sky today in Edmonton and that we usually enjoy in the rest of the province must have something to do with with our political preferences.

  9. Realistically, how many more seats can the CPC expect to pick up over what they now have? Maybe if the BQ collapsed and the CPC picked up those seats, things would be different. The hard liberal areas voted liberal even with the apparent corruption by their leaders. As has been pointed out, the Toronto and Vancouver central cores are atypically Canadian, that is to say, foreign occupied. I doubt little can be done to move them to the CPC column. The same goes for the North Country. That’ll never be a shade of blue in my opinion. Modern Canadian political history has the Liberals in power with brief interludes by the Tories. Do you really expect this to change now? I don’t think it will because there are too many Canadians that think the European economic and political model is the end all be all. For some reason they cannot look South and see anything good in the American model. It’s sad really. I expect the CPC to not accomplish much because of having to bargain away too much of its agenda, a Liberal retaking in 2-5 years, a failure by the CPC to retake, followed by an Albertan separation not long thereafter.

  10. The end of my post above should have been:
    I expect the CPC to not accomplish much because of having to bargain away too much of its agenda. I would then expect a Liberal retaking in 2-5 years, a failure by the CPC to retake, followed by an Albertan separation not long thereafter.

  11. Chris – I don’t think CPC pols (not all of them, anyway) are naive about electoral fraud. E.g. Edmonton Centre – hard work by Laurie Hawn’s people at rooting out bad addresses on the rolls + scrutineers at polling places + disgust with this government put him way over the top this year, with well over 3,500 votes ahead of Anne McLellan; however, just the first two elements probably would have won the election for him last time around. A lesson, hard won, not soon forgotten.
    I totally agree with Henry — I was watching Jack Layton gloat about how he held the balance of power and I thought, “whoa, there, laddie”. First, Harper has definitely taken the sting out of working with the Bloc by showing he’s a real force in Quebec, so working w/ the Bloc in the Parliament isn’t cozying up to Separatists but being shrewd (and if the Liberals tried to run a campaign ad on that next time around, the Cons could put together a great anti-ad in 30 mins, beginning w/ Buzz Hargrove). 1) Fiscal imbalance 2) Whisk the healthcare/childcare/whatev questions out of the NDP’s hands by devolving them to the provinces, which have ultimate responsibility for them anyway – maybe give them block grants to spend as they see fit, as the U.S. Congress gives the states, or something similar. I think the Bloc could go for that. Anyway, enjoy “Jack the kingmaker” stories now because they don’t reflect the kind of strategic, prismatic thinking that this parliament is going to require.

  12. You guys are so busy commiserating, your not looking at the real picture, the bigger picture if you will.
    Listen, firstly the liberals are broke as hell… We, as in the Tories, still have money. I don�t mean a little money, I mean a lot of money. Remember that because I’ll get back to it. The NDP are also broke, as are the Bloc. No party wants to hold an election any time soon, because the only ones who can afford it are the Tories.
    Couple of things to remember… based on what I saw of the election, I’d guess the Tories have about 5 mil left in the bank. I have heard that the liberals are nursing a 34 million dollar deficit… I am not sure how much credibility I put in that number.
    You can say what you like about Paul Martin, but he was a kick ass fund raiser, and I believe McKenna (my guess as next Lib leader) will be strong in that arena as well, but it will take the Lib�s time. If I had to guess I’d say the Lib�s are probably around 4 to 5 million in the hole… at the most 10 mil. They spend big on advertising, as is evidenced by the high quality of their commercials. (Just so you understand, I�ve made two commercials in my life of similar quality to the ones the liberals put out, and both cost upwards of a million dollars. That didn�t include airtime. The Tories ad�s, while effective in their own way, were seriously low budget. Mine were done in the states, and I did them there because it was cheaper than doing them here. I still had to pay union, but it wasn�t quite as high).
    So that means a minimum of 18 months, probably more like a couple of years to be really ready to rock on the Liberal side. Until they approach the point where they have at least 10 mil for a campaign, they are going to play real nice with the Tories.
    There is an aside to this, the Tories know the liberals are hurting cash wise, and so are the NDP and Bloc… this will give them a significant stick for the first year when it comes to budget time. They don’t give a shit about going to the polls again as long as it is undeniable that they had nothing to do with forcing an election. Thanks to their Alberta base, they have access to money anytime they need it, as long as it’s legit, and they are without question the best positioned to win another snap election.
    I assure you, the first hint of resistance from the opposition is going to garner a quick reminder of this from the Tories. As long as they don’t try anything to radical, they are going to get away with a lot.
    Secondly, the Liberals are not going to pull the trigger until they are absolutely positive they can boot the Tories out of Ontario. There’s no point otherwise, because they will still be suffering a credibility issue in Quebec, and they don�t stand a snowball�s hope of hell in Alberta or the rest of the prairies. BC will turn Tory blue if they see good results from Stephan, again a checkmate for the liberals.
    Nope, short of a serious fuck-up by the Tories, this is going to be one of the most stable if not the most stable, minority in the history of the nation. Stephan will fuck himself on the fixed election date platform, so he can’t engineer his own defeat.
    The liberals are about to sit back, let the Tories have a couple of years of free reign, or relatively free reign, and in year 3 watch the burners go up as the Lib�s test the waters with their new leader.
    The NDP are totally screwed in the process. I do mean totally. They are about to spend at least 2 years as the most useless party in the nation, and sitting right beside them will be the Bloc.
    The liberal situation will allow Harper to almost completely disregard Layton. In fact, I think it will be almost embarrassing how ineffectual Jack is about to become, and anything that fucks Duceppe is a good thing.
    Yep, I am very certain the Lib/s and Tories are about to become bosom buddies until at least 2008.
    The question then becomes, �how fast can the Tories implement their plans�? I think they will move as fast as they are allowed given the bureaucrats, who will be dragging their feet somewhat. What I can tell you is that guys like Prentice, Solberg, Harper himself… these guys are not stupid.
    Prentice is a good example when it comes to the gun registry. Jim is very techno savvy. His firm handled a suit for me and some friends against Bell about 5 years ago, and while I can’t say I was happy with the outcome of the suit… through no fault of Jim’s, I can tell you that he knew exactly what we talked about when we went into the mechanics of what we did. Additionally, he is very popular with the first nations and he believes very much in them, and their cause for quasi-independance.
    Harper is a brass tacks kind of guy, and if you give him enough bureaucratic bullshit answers, he’ll just say “fuck-you” and go find out himself. The man’s mind is like a steel trap, and he never forgets anything.
    That�s sort of why I’m excited. The party is riddled with seriously smart specialists, and the backgrounds are very diverse. I can tell you that none of them will be baffled with bureaucratic babble, and heads will roll fast if the institutional welfare recipients of Ottawa, otherwise known as �Government Employee�s�, get in their way.
    They’ve been waiting too long to put up with crap.
    The one place I can see true weakness is in the Healthcare side. They will have to rely a lot on professionals for advice in that arena, and that’s what always screwed the Liberals. None of them really knew what the pro’s were talking about and it resulted in fiasco�s like the gun registry.
    Our people are smarter. That’s the beauty of Alberta, people keep the KISS principle first and foremost in their minds. The more complex it is, the more likely they will garbage it. Saskatchewan has practicality coming out of its ass, and there is so many good people from the other provinces with seats in Ottawa, and knowledge.
    I expect that Ontario is going to be both happy, and pissed, in the coming months.
    That’s okay by me, as long as we start fixing the real problems. Like the Unity issue. I’m sick of seeing bloc members get elected, and it’s Chretiens and Trudeau’s fault. Nope, time to have the hard conversations, and bury this bullshit for a couple of decades.
    I don’t think Harper will solve it all, but someone has to have the balls to try, and he’s got zero to lose. Hell, 2 years ago he was a leader for the Alliance, and look where he is today.
    I think the best thing about Stephen is that he’s a beer drinking, hockey watching, I put my pants on one leg at a time, and I don’t owe the elite, old money easterner’s a god damn thing, kinda a guy.
    That’s got to be good for all of us.
    What you should be more worried about is Harper getting used to power� that�ll suck eventually.
    But for now, relax and enjoy the show, because it�s Harper�s ride for the next couple of years, all he has to do is keep a rein on the Cheryl Gallants of the world. He�s proven that he can do that, and I�m sure he will continue to go more and more main stream
    PS� Oh, one other thing, fuck you Dumaris, you don’t own this guy, Alberta does.

  13. Electoral fraud is a another huge LIBERAL SCANDAL! (absolutely right, Chris): we can’t let this go, we need to get to the bottum of it, for at least three (3) reasons: 1) we need to remind T.O. and the other Liberal voters that the Librano’s will pervert democracy if it suits their ends; and 2) we need to help aboriginal Canadians (those that are not of the ruling class of Indian Act arisitocracy) to break free from the oppression and poverty that the system has them (and all of us, by extension) mired in; and 3) we need Mr Harrison back on our side in Ottawa.

  14. Joe, good points. What this parliament is going to require is very strategic thinking, and an ability to see “prismatically”, as it were.
    Anyway, if I was Jack, I wouldn’t exactly be making out a “List of Demands from Progressive Canadians” to put on PM Harper’s desk in a week, is the main thing I’m saying.

  15. heh heh. yep, a Liberal conspiracy… that makes TOTAL sense considering they got spanked everywhere else… but it worked in Desnethe – Missinippi – Churchill River… 😉

  16. Having some familiarity with this particular riding, Churchill River, I really do believe that there may have been some shade goings-on. After the 2004 election, the natives were totally outraged that a *gasp* Conservative got elected in that riding. They would do absolutely anything to keep that from happening again. It is north vs. south in that riding (in other words Natives on reserves vs. other folks). A lot of racial tension there; believe me, I know – I grew up there. I read the online newspapers from that area after the last election and there was a lot of anger coming from the native community at that time. This should be thoroughly investigated.

  17. First, it’s nice to live in a rat free province.
    Second, the crack has appeared in the dyke. The Conservatives can now throw open the books. Daylight and the auditors can do the rest. This should be the end of the Liberal party, not only by exposing who took what, but more importantly by exposing the apparatus of corruption. The Conservatives can bust up the machine that feeds money and power to Liberals. That being done, the raison d’etre of the Liberal party ceases to exist.
    Third, Jack Layton has visions of being a Tony Blair. To keep them on side, Stephen Harper should just offer to throw him another piece of the body Liberal to devour.
    Fourth, Paul Martin’s epitaph: “apres moi le deluge”.
    Fifth, to parody someone else’s joke; Q: What do you call a Liberal in a suit and tie? A: The defendant.

  18. Best comment from Fred….
    “first blush on the results
    Big City folks in Van & Toronto shut out of gevernment/cabinet and POWER. This is a good thing.
    Federalism is alive in Quebec and the Bloc took some really good body blows.
    Best of all the Tories can get their hands on the books, can investigate where the $9 billion in “Off Book Foundations” funding really went. And the missing $40 million. And the $2Billion gun registry scam. And on and on
    WE HAVE THE BOOKS NOW :)”
    Oh Yeah! Lets get those books opened and published!
    Thanks Fred and BTW Ontario has already been nosing up to the federal trough over transfer payments. What do you think they want/need? Why money to cover Hydro debt fiasco!

  19. Here’s a question…
    Where can I find a map of Canada showing the colours of the election results? I’ve been looking but the media seems to be relunctant to show most of Canada under Tory blue.
    Posted by: jhuck at January 24, 2006 11:48 AM
    Found this in the comments jhuck it is a colored map of the political landscape. Noo we don’t need electoral reform and Proportional Representation.
    http://www.elections.ca/enr/help/map_39ge.pdf
    I couldn’t believe that bunch of whiners, going on about being a have not province and Steven Harper doesn’t like them…etc…etc…some idiotic woman was saying that they had already closed 15 daycare centers! My God, people of Canada pull your head out of your ass and start to pay attention!!!
    Posted by: Ron Mullin at January 24, 2006 12:03 PM
    Hey Ron in case you didn’t know Newfoundland and Labrador contributes three times more per capita to the national GDP than any other province. It is only because of the claw backs of the Non-Renewable Resource Revenues that it hasn’t prospered. That and DFO’s complete and utter incompetance at protecting a renewable resource the fishery sold off to foreigners to benefit Quebec and Ontario’s manufacturing industry.
    The Feds have cut 32% of federal jobs in NL in the last few years.
    NL doesn’t have a Military base other than by name. Gander has 50 people and 5 Wing Goose only has a few hundred Canadian troops. Where as Alberta has 5 bases with a minimum of 5000 Canadian troops based there full time per base I’m guessing somewhere in the range of 15,000 Canadian troops. Edmonton, Cold LAke, Suffield, Calgary, Wainright.
    Anyway ease up on NL they elected another CPC and increased overall the CPC vote at 1.75$ per vote.
    On another note there is a great opportunity to accomplish some things in NL what with Premier Williams haing responses from all of the Party leaders to his list of issues affectin NL. Alot of the parties are on common ground with many of the issues so it shouldn’t be to hard to get support if they don’t want to seem hypocritical like Martin did with his renege on the Atlantic Accord promise. Read for yourself they are basically in agreeance on several of the key issues.
    Also the 50/50 funding for the Trans Labrador Highway will go along way in promoting Quebec to the rest of Canada especially if the remaining 350 Km on the Quebec Lower North Shore were to be completed completing a circle for round trip tourism and uniting Quebec and NL with the rest of Canada.
    Eventually a fixed link could be done across the 10 km Straite Jacket of Belle Isle finally uniting this country from sea to sea and in the process opening up Quebec to the rest of Canada to tourism and Aquaculture.
    NL PREMIER Williams List of issues affectin NL
    http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2006/exec/0103n01.pdf
    Conservative Response
    http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2006/exec/01harper.pdf
    NDP
    http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2006/exec/01layton.pdf
    Liberal
    http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2006/exec/01martin.pdf
    http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2006/exec/01mclellan.pdf

  20. David Frum who is a former writer for George W. Bush was on CBC basically saying that GWB will be trying to resolve the softwood lumber in and around the March timeframe. He said that it’s difficult to find anyone in the White House that can justify witholding this money from Canada.
    I have a feeling that GWB is going to make this issue ‘disappear’ for our friend Stephen Harper.
    It’s amazing what a Conservative Government can do in a day… It might be wishful thinking, but it would be great if he could get this file moving in the first 90 days of office.

  21. Ok you guys and gals, take a breather!!!
    We have enjoyed all of your comments but we need to at least relish our victory for a bit before hitting the pavement!
    This morning we woke to a beautiful balmy chinooky day in southern Saskatchewan. Life goes on and we have to carry on with life. We are self-employed on our own ranch in the middle of the prairies and we wouldn’t trade it for anything!
    The snow is melting and the mud is back, but our cows are happily grazing and basking in the warm sunshine. They are fat and healthy without a care in the world….we have so much to learn from the animal kingdom! They don’t need much to make them happy, believe me! They are oblivious to BSE, they love their calves that they care for and fight off marauding coyotes looking for an easy meal, with their lives. You don’t want to get between a newborn calf and its mother!
    Anyway, you couldn’t take the smile off my face today….we have a small spring water business in which we deliver our tasty water to die hard spring water drinkers in our community and today was bliss! It is so exciting to see the front pages of all the papers with the Tory victory. There is hope in the air and Stephen Harper is leading us. Someone pinch me please. It is still hard to believe! I relish all the good media for the Conservatives….this is only the beginning….hang on for the ride of your lives.
    God bless Canada!
    Theresa

  22. There’s a lot I could say, but ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a Conservative Canada. Man, that sounds weird saying it. Where’s my blue maple leaf flag?

  23. Ironic that the defining moment in this run may have been the shooting in Toronto on Boxing Day that made the rest of the country look for law and order . But when it came to the ballot box Toronto opted for the status quo.
    the status quo at the intersection of Bay Street and Sussex Drive.
    The “old eastern conservatives and the old eastern liberals” have dropped the ball.

  24. With respect JoeCalgary I think you are only part right.
    The Liberals, knowing the conservatives have complete access to the books of the country are going to be digging in for scandal of the week. That’s right every week the Conservatives will be releasing more info, more allegations and more jabs at the liberals over any misspending they can find in the recent memories.
    This will have two effects. Liberals will shorten the amount of time they will be willing to prop up the Conservatives. AND The Bloc and NDP will be much more willing to let the news come out proping up the conservatives. To a point. Roughly the same point the liberals are almost built back together.
    Just before then you will see an enormous amount of posturing (a repeat of last spring and last fall) to hit an election before the liberals can challange either the bloc or the NDP…. or immediately after the Libs can challange the Torys (depending on whether the Libs or the NDP/Bloc come out on top of the posturing)

  25. It’s a great day to be alive. I feel very hopeful, positive and energetic. I intend to communicate to our new MP’s that we intend to have true democracy and patriotism for all Canadians, not just those who agree with the Liberals.
    Hope everyone’s ready for Mt. Everest. It’ll be cold and brutal; but a real high if we make it.
    Duceppe said during the english debate that the West wants in and Quebec wants out. He said it like he was sad for us, because Easterners and the Liberals just don’t get it. It is ironic that they went to such lengths (dubious at best) to hold on to Quebec and shunned Westerners. It was quite profound for me. Hopefully by the time we’re done Quebec will think twice. I sincerely hope that no other Canadain child ever grows up feeling unwelcome in their own Country.
    I am especially thankful for the Quebecers who took that leap. Too bad more Canadians weren’t more enterprising in spirit. Guess the same ol’, same ol’ is a lot safer. Anyways Alberta is booming there’s room for more , even un-employed auto workers, just leave BUZZ behind thanks. You’re welcome because we’re confident you’ll soon see the error of your ways. We know you’ve been under a bad spell and are about to wake up from a catatonic state. Life is good out here.

  26. singlethreat; I just read your comments about softwood. That is great news. Hopefully it’ll be a lesson to many that you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Martin totaly screwed up on U.S relations and trade disputes. The Liberals sat on their hands for years, did nothing, and said nothing even though they had ample opportunity. Then one day it suddenly became ‘fashionable’ to hate Bush and bash our neighbors to the South. Same thing they just did to us, and have been doing for years. When Bush was so inclined to do so, he quickly stepped up efforts to get the border open to our beef. Hopefully we can get off to a fresh start with each other, the US, and re-invent ourselves as Peace Keepers and good Global partners.
    P.S. NDP’ers booing Harper was completely un-called for. I saw Layton’s look and had the sense he was a bit ashamed, and so he should be. When raising kids, they often pick-up your bad habits and prejudices. Frankly disgusting and hypocritical for a party that is so proud of it’s morals and who they represent. Even more bitter was that the Liberals were cheered. The values of Canadians are certainly questionable.

  27. I have been a DRO many times in the last few years. DROs MUST write down all the names of people who vote and those people MUST produce ID if they do not have a voters card. A simple relational data base will be able to check the validiity of all voters in a riding in only a few days. Jeremy, if you do not know a good computer programer to hire , e-mail me, I know a man who writes his programs in several languages and can set up interactive, relational data bases in a heartbeat. You can e-mail me through Kate. I am not making this up. ALL close ridings should be investigated.

  28. Lets fight for Jeremy. I don’t want to let those Libs get away with this!
    Do we need one more corrupt MP and one less good one? Look at all the good he did for the Metis Vet, we need Jeremy.

  29. “…Thanks Fred and BTW Ontario has already been nosing up to the federal trough over transfer payments. What do you think they want/need? Why money to cover Hydro debt fiasco!…”
    Atomic Energy of Canada Limited responsible for 12% of national debt
    Jan 11, 2006
    Subsidies to Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL), the federal nuclear promotion agency, are responsible for 12% of today’s federal government debt, according to a new study from Energy Probe. Since its inception in 1952, $74.9 billion of today’s federal debt is attributable to subsidies provided to AECL.
    In a related analysis, the study established that, had our federal government’s nuclear subsidies been invested in the Canadian economy, the value today would be $194.6 billion � an amount equal to 11.5% of the value of the Canadian companies traded on the TSX.
    In addition, AECL has amassed a variety of contingent liabilities, some of which could confer very large future costs on taxpayers. These liabilities have been amassed through reactor export financing, guaranteeing the business outcomes of large nuclear refurbishment projects in Ontario and New Brunswick, and a troubled reactor partnership with the medical products firm MDS Nordion….
    http://www.cenn.ca/cenn/index.cfm?DSP=content&ContentID=14529
    Nuclear power discussed in Legislature
    Hansard, excerpt
    Dec 14, 2005
    Mr. Tim Peterson (Mississauga South): I am pleased to rise today to talk about a unique Canadian technology…..The company is Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd…..It is anticipated that China will buy over 40 nuclear plants in the next 20 years. Imagine the business potential for Ontario….
    ….Mr. Howard Hampton (Kenora-Rainy River): To the Premier: Premier, earlier today you said that spending $40 billion for expensive and unreliable nuclear power is on the table for the McGuinty government. This is after six months of backroom work by your former top advisers, now paid lobbyists for the nuclear industry….
    http://www.waterkeeper.ca/lok/index.cfm?DSP=content&ContentID=8147

  30. Barclay, you could be right… I rather think the majority of the scandals the Tories dig up will be kept behind closed doors to use as bargaining chips with the Liberals. Unless of course it’s just to big to resist. Regardless, I still doubt the Liberals will knock themselves out to get to an election anytime soon.

  31. In regards to election results stemming from Desnethe-Missinippi-Churchill River riding corruption during election time within my own native people really enrages me. Unfortunately elections within Status and Metis circles have been deceided by idle threats, ballot stacking and the bottle for as long as I can remeber. I believe stongely in native gov’t but not untill we can govern ourselves accordinly. With the state of affairs as it stands now, our leaders defraud us of millions and are barely held accountable. I believe what has happened in the Churchill area will be a wake up call for canada that this is not a isolated event and we must start to deal with this corruption. We as a people have not been able to stop it ourselves we have accepted it as norm, it is time that Federal and Provincial gov’t step in and deal with this situation. We are a good people with the ability to govern ourselves but first we must clean house, our leaders must be held accountable for their actions! I hope this issue is dealt with properly and not swept under the rug to avoid the “race card”.
    Metis Sask.

  32. Blogging Triumphalism: Canadian Edition

    Kate McMillan:
    But, for the record – Ed Morrissey did not “bring down the Canadian government”, as some have described it.
    His role was important, but […] it was NDP leader Jack Layton who “brought down” the Canadian go…

  33. Read the news before speaking

    Clement Chartier of the Metis National Council opines in a news release:
    “The Aboriginal vote got out in record numbers this election and we demonstrated that we cannot be ignored by any party. For example, I firmly believe the combined Métis an…

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