…a single electric car battery weighing 1,000 pounds requires extracting and processing some 500,000 pounds of materials. Averaged over a battery’s life, each mile of driving an electric car “consumes” five pounds of earth. Using an internal combustion engine consumes about 0.2 pounds of liquids per mile.
But read it all.
Thats a lotta numbers Sparky!
As well as the massive amount of material to produce electric batteries, there is the problem of the horrendous amount of garbage that used solar panels are going to be producing in the near future.
Turns out that many people are changing them out in only 10 to 12 yrs instead of the supposed useful life span of 20 to 25 yrs.
And that significantly changes the economics of using them at all.
https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Solar-Energy/The-World-Is-Facing-A-Solar-Panel-Waste-Problem.html
Frankly, I think all the old panels should sent to Al Gore, James Hansen and David Suzuki.
Those smart asses have the answer to everything else.
I always thought calling wind and solar “renewable energy” is such a con. Maybe it they did their job better and the solar panels and windmills lasted, say, 200 years, they might have a better claim. But right now their supposed life span is only 20 some years. (They have such poor planning that the motor unit in windmills are not replaceable, and the whole windmill is kaput once the motor unit goes.) They are no more “renewable” than oil wells that go dry after 20 some years, and most oil wells last a lot longer than that.
Anyway, oil is truly renewable, but that is a different argument for a different day.
EROEI.
BINGO.
EROEI: Energy Return on Energy invested
And as per Capt Ike Kiefer of the USN.
Oil is 8:1. and nothing on this planet even comes close.
BioFuels are 1.2 : 1 Not including the effects of less foodstocks
An incredible READ…
https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/SSQ/documents/Volume-07_Issue-1/Kiefer.pdf
Thanks for the link, steakman.
I been yapping about that for years and even with the truth in front of them the ignorant socialists and demented green freaks will still carry on the same way.
And that’s cause none of their bullshit is about the Climate or the Environment.
They are all COMMUNISTS.
+++ steakman.
Well, that was an extensive read, but very informative, and well backed up with documented and reviewed materials. Most of it was what I’ve always believed, but I never had such an abundance of documented reference material available before. I’ve downloaded it, and will shove it into every Greenie’s face that I come across. Although, as noted above, the facts don’t matter to the rabid ones, and yeah Suzuki and Gore should be held responsible for hatching this idiotic Green revolution. What did sleepy Joe say a short while back, we’ll take the truth over facts, or something similar. I’m not sure about what Suzuki has accumulated, but we all know Gore has amassed over two hundred million or more since his hockey stick fabrication, plus private planes and four or five mansions. Jeez his carbon footprint is about the size of Montana, yet the rabid ones still believe everything he said.
I’ve even heard of panic prone, Greenies needing a shrink, for high anxiety over environmental issues, and I’ve also read about a couple of them committing suicide over it. Hmmm, I wonder how much of a carbon footprint there is for for individual cremation?
Addition to my last post above.
Has nobody ever advised these green idiots that there are over five hundred volcanoes on this planet, many of them active, and that one with an unpronouncable name Eygo something, in Iceland that shut down flights to Europe for a week, a few years back, and that it spat out more carbon in that one eruption than the entire human race has put out in the last hundred years! I don’t recall where I read that, but I do remember it was a group of volcanologist’s calculations on that particular eruption.
Back in the late 70’s I worked at a mining company research center Studying load levelling batteries involving deep discharge lead oxide and lithium cell combinations. It was interesting but early on we quickly Determined that there was not enough High quality raw material To make it feasible short of raping Mother Earth and digging up new mines which even then didn’t look likely because of emerging environmentalism. The major problem was that to optimize Capacity and cycle life it was necessary to use virgin materials free of contaminants. Using recycled or so called secondary materials had trace contaminants that shortened the life drastically (down to 300 cycles or less I.e. one year of cycles from 1000 cycles I.e. three years worth and also decreased battery capacity significantly.
To produce enough batteries to allow energy storage in the quantities our way of life demands would require enormous amounts of raw materials. As well there are no viable commercial processes For recycling lithium on the scale required.