59 Replies to “Manitoba Provincial Election Open Thread”

  1. The upside of being disconnected from the MSM and the 24-hour news cycle is that I’m calmer and more centred, plus I have more free time to pursue my interests.  The downside is that I had zero idea that Manitoba was even having an election today.

    Oddly enough, I’m okay with that.

    1. Garth:

      If the NDP were going to win, it would have been on CBC (Sockboy Trudeau’s personal ad agency) every night for the last 60 days!!

      Hopefully this is a good sign!

  2. Everyone must show ID to vote. But what about the retards who are too stupid to get ID? What do you mean they don’t exist?

  3. Kevin Lameroux’s daughter running for the libs…he is Lib MP, who got his years in provincial politics to get his provincial pension, then onto the fed’s…I suspect he is close to retiring with his fed pension too, freeing up his seat for his daughter to get a fed pension too…generations on the public teat

    1. That is what really bothers me. I am not fond of family political dynasties, but one would expect that at a minimum the first generation would have something to show for their lifetime in politics. I get things like Roosevelt and Kennedy, but Lameroux has been an absolute dud. Even his wikipedia has nothing of note to mention for his time in public (self) service.

      1. Speaking about duds, how about Ralph Goodale, He can;t add anything positive on his resume yet the people in Wescana continue to vote for him. I guess that proves that liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.

      2. Mr & Ms Lameroux have become amongst the finest of trained seals in the various legislative buildings of our fine country. They are entitled to their entitlements, their richly deserved pensions at sums greater than 99% of us regular citizens will ever hope to see in our lifetimes. (Sarc)

  4. CBC News has been trying its best to get its boy, NDP Leader Wab Kinew, in power. Kinew is a former CBC staffer, a CBC Radio host, an aboriginal, and staunchly left wing. The corrupt new agency even published a phony poll a couple of weeks ago claiming the PCs and the NDP tied, then retracted the poll. Three or four days ago the CBC dredge up a sexual harrassment accusation against one PC candidate. The Ceeb tried to defeat Jason Kenney in the Alberta election.

    1. David Murrell: EXACTLY!! CBC has been trying to get Wab Kinew into power in Manitoba. I saw what CBC published about the PC and NDP being tied but I also knew in my heart that CBC was lying the MSM is not to be trusted. They should have dug up about Kinew’s controversial rap lyrics, domestic assault charges drug and alcohol problems and I understand the list goes on. He is a shill and we Manitobans don’t need his type in Office to destroy Manitoba just like the NDP has done in the past!!!

    2. I’m watching it right now, and it’s all about “Queers,blacks, queerblacks and ndp..PC are winning but hardly a mention.. sickening.. innclusivity.. Fkn Hayseeds..It’s what they talk about in the big cities don’t you know.. bye-bye cbc.

    3. I truly hope the communist broadcasting corpse continues this tactic. I really do.
      the upside is, when *somebody* with more g*&^$&#^mned GUTS than the likes of harper gets in the position to do so (AND someone who was *targeted* by the ceeb), he will CLOBBER them beyond recognition, justifying it by correctly claiming in the age of 1000 channels, multiple avenues and technologies to deliver the programming, that we DONT NEED a public broadcaster anymore.

  5. Had no idea Manitoba had an election today. The Atlantic news media tells me about every fart President Trump may have, every stupid thing Megan Markle does, every time a cloud blocks the sun, and covers every photo ever taken of Trudeau, but cover real news….. nope.

  6. I’m going to let all you white guys in on a secret. Manitoba means skipping pink buffalo.

    1. The CBC reporters and editors are slightly biased, to put it mildly. Too bad they did’t look at their own Poll Tracker, which got the result almost perfectly bang on correct. I don’t know which election the CBC reporters thought they were covering, but it sure wasn’t the one that just finished. The CBC covered all the issues that mattered to the people who lived within three kilometres of their broadcast headquarters (ie. University of Winnipeg, downtown, the Green Party’s supposed base in the Wolesley riding). I guess the rest of the city and certainly those outside the Perimeter Highway doesn’t exist for these journalists. Same thing happened in Alberta earlier this year.

      1. I think (could be wrong) that there are 57 seats in the Manitoba Legislature. If I’m wrong, let me know and I’ll revise my totals.

  7. Sadly, from what I have experienced, the only difference between Pallister and the previous NDP government has been a change of name on the letterhead stationary. With the exception of the 1% decrease in the PST, three years after he promised to drop it, we still have sky high taxes, increasing hydro rates, a myriad of enviro-fees, & recycling levies, declining health and social services, lousy roads, and out of control government spending. It is another hold your nose, vote for the lesser of two evils election.
    Gawd I miss Ralph Klein.

    1. GRM: Since you don’t like living in MB leave at least 1% is better than none. Yes we have sky high taxes, we also support a lot of FN peoples that don’t work or want to move out of reserves that flood every year cause high costs. Our Hydro rates are one of best in all of Canada but I agree they could a least stay put for at least 5 yrs at a time. It was the NDP that has put us in this spot they wanted the Hydro dam built going through every reserve to give the a piece of the pie the Tri Pole going west then coming back east how stupid but it is what the NDP had approved and was working on then the Conservative just inherited it. I the enviro-fee & recycling fees seem to be across Canada so it could be Federal. We have now the shortest wait times by closing some Emerg that didn’t have doctors anyway and would be shipped out to other hospitals away. Lousy roads because the NDP hadn’t done anything for HOW MANY YEARS TO MANY FOR MY LIKING!!! Pallister is curbing his spending and then the UNIONS make noise go figure!! You can’t win for losing! Vote Pallister!

      1. You can’t win for losing is exactly why I voted again for the PC in my riding. That should not be the bench mark. FN is a Federal matter, which Trudeau has ignored. Inheriting a bad policy is one thing, doing nothing about it is another. The PCs had a majority and coasted rather than act. I complained to Sellinger about the NDP policies and just like you was told if I don’t like it move. Not good enough. Shame on you.

    2. Manitoba per capita debt is $18,777. That’s $18,777 for every man, woman, and child in the province. Lord knows what that works out to per taxpayer.
      Manitoba Hydro per capita debt is another $18,000 for every man, woman, and child in the province. Lord knows what that also works out to per taxpayer.
      Total so far is $56,777 per person. Per taxpayer ????????????
      Canadian Federal per capita debt is $18,646. That’s for every man, woman, and child in the province. Figure that out per taxpayer if you can.
      Grand total is $75,423 per person and it doesn’t include Municipal debt.
      Question #1: How much is that per taxpayer?
      Question #2: Do you think that those debts will ever be paid?
      Question #3: Where do governments get money when no one will buy their bonds?
      Question #4: Do I have your attention yet?

    3. You’re not giving Pallister due credit: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/im-a-problem-solver-manitoba-tory-leader-brian-pallister-favours-results-over-popularity

      “Strong opposition has not stopped Pallister from pressing ahead to cut management jobs in the public sector, close some hospital emergency rooms, raise tuition fees and reduce subsidies for items ranging from sleep-apnea machines to public housing.”

      He’s essentially an ant-populist.

  8. Overall as a rural Manitoban I have been very happy with Pallister’s performance in the last three years. He’s gotten rid of a lot of red tape in just about every aspect of rural life like removing the NDP requirement to have a man door and smoke detectors in every stall in all new barns so cows can be alerted and exit if there is a fire. (I am not joking. There was such a rule.) The health care here has been far less cut than it has been streamlined and many of the changes have made health care provision much better for anyone living outside Winnipeg. The NDP plan for health care seemed to be have anyone who needed medical care for anything drive to Winnipeg to get it in the biggest, most bloated, wasteful and overloaded system possible run entirely of, by, and for the benefit of unions and medical doctors. We also had multiple small boards for rural districts replicating everything which have been cut and amalgamated into one. Many bureaucrats were laid off over that amalgamation resulting in many “We support health care worker” signs appearing on lawns in small towns that lost an employer. One result of the amalgamation is I now have a family doctor in a clinic only one hour and ten minutes away and not two and half hours away in Winnipeg because rural doctors no longer have to restrict their practice to their wee little district. I could go on and on, but the major complaint about health care cuts seems to me to be centred around how Winnipeg used to have six full ERs in all the hospitals but not all the hospitals were equipped to actually provide full service. So patients were transferred from small hospital ERs to the big central ones for tests like CTs and then transferred back for doctors to treat, taking hours and hours to do it. This made for many union jobs in patient transport and lots for bureaucrats to do but did very little for reducing ER wait times. So instead of six full ERs the two that were doing all the testing are now the “only” ERs and the others have been converted into more sensible things like urgent care clinics. Some people in Winnipeg now have to drive a few extra minutes to get to an ER and think their world as they know it is coming to an end. As someone who lives in a rural area an hour and fifteen minutes from the nearest ER I am not particularly sympathetic to someone from Charleswood who now has to have an ambulance go an extra ten minutes past Grace Hospital to get to Health Science Centre (unless they qualify for urgent care in which case they can still go to Grace.) I can think of many other examples of the “horrific” health care cuts Pallister has been responsible for. One nurse I spoke to who kept saying “People have died” but refused to be specific. When I pinned her down she finally admitted she knew of no deaths and her biggest gripe with Pallister was in his health care review she was actually forced to reapply for her job because everything was being reevaluated and this created resentment and chaos even if she did get to keep her job. I can find very little substantive complaints about the actual cuts. It had made for a lot of change and we know how bureaucrats like change. Wait times are down in the ERs, rural medicine is MUCH better, and you don’t have to drive to Winnipeg as much. Future plans like bringing back the midwifery school the NDP cancelled as their first act when they got in power, promise to make things even better for us rural folks. I am hoping Pallister gets a sweeping majority.

    1. Great Synopsis Justin…!!
      And a petty good read – Im thinking this is what needs to happen in Alberta and soon…..particularly in the Health Care Field.

      We’ve been pissing away Literally Billions for no reason.

    2. ” NDP requirement to have a man door and smoke detectors in every stall in all new barns”
      yep.
      like sooooooo many polllllitiSHUNS, solve *one* problem by creating 100,000 + more or however many
      beef/dairy cattle belong to this category.

  9. Agree. I also live in rural Manitoba and a one hour drive to the ER is a luxury! He also cut the cost of the ambulance – which for those whining about how far the ER is – if it is an emergency call the ambulance! The NDP can poo poo about the Starbucks coffee only going down a penny by the PST reduction but I have already noticed savings on my hydro and phone bills for one and on all my other purchases as well. The NDP dug us into such a hole it will take quite some time to crawl out of it. Will not even go into the personal train wreck and character flaws of Kinew but like Trudeau and his commercial on the bus (probably his first time on one) hypocrisy is unknown to these clowns.

    1. Cutting PST was stupid. Consumption taxes are some of the least harmful taxes should have cut income taxes or other more harmful tax instead.

  10. Oh and here is yet another example of the horrific cuts, this time to environmental and conservation units. Pallister brought this cut in. Under the NDP the lines for conservations districts (which largely deal with water flow) had arbitrary boundaries relative to watersheds. This meant some watersheds went through two and even three districts. It also meant you needed approval from two or three districts for many projects. All the conservation districts have been realigned so their boundaries actually mirror the watersheds they manage. This means you only need to deal with one conservation office and less offices and more money being put back into to real stuff without changing the budget. Oh the horror of it! It’s proof that Conservatives just don’t care about the environment and are busy removing the protections the socialists put in. Can you imagine actually aligning boundaries for watershed management with the actual watersheds being managed? Only a Conservative would do such a dastardly thing.

  11. So we got a federal one. I personally don’t see what the other parties are arguing about; they all have the same policies, but different.

    PPC is the only way to shake up this phoney establishment bait-and-switch. Think your getting rid of Trudeau by voting Scheer? Ha, think again. Same policies:

    Seat on UN security thingy – bribes and bending over required
    Billions to Swiss bank accounts, er, I mean foreign aid – some even for swindlemills.
    More carbon tax, by any other means doesn’t matter. CO2 is not destroying the planet and our pathetic contribution is meaningless. Politicians must demonstrate they can control the weather before claiming to control the climate, a much bigger thing; baby steps.
    Mass immigration with no controls
    Vote pandering on an ethnic and religious basis; very devisive.
    More money for foreign charities; Agha Khan, etc. run by rich people who don’t need it
    More injustice, unemployment and disrespect for the West
    Stopping of all energy and resource developments – wait until you see buckle to the green shirts.
    No pipelines
    No reform of the Indian Act nor real assistance to the reserves.

    But yes, they do have different hair styles.

    1. Sorry ran out of time.

      No significant tax cuts across the board; only bijou cuts micro-targetted at left-handed scissor owners and other select voting blocks.
      No reduction in the size or role of the federal goernment.
      No ending of interprovincial trade barriers and other crony-capitalist practices.

      1. Voting for Max will only split the right-leaning vote, giving the Liberals about six or seven very close seats in Ontario.

        Voting for Max produces a Liberal minority supported by the NDP rump and the Greens (ie. the worst possible thing ever.)

        Andrew is boring and bland. But this is politics. Boring and bland is good. Cheaper milk & cheese can wait for a few years.

        1. Besides no one needs dairy – it’s not an essential food group.
          Why is it such a big deal that the right has a couple of choices for the first time where as the left has had several choices for decades?

          Personally I’ve lost faith in the PC – what they did to King in North Bay was their final act of betrayal in my books.
          We’re voting Max.

  12. Just goes to show….as it has in the past that NEW DEMOCRAT GOVTS don’t know shit from Shinola, Rack up huge deficits and debt while ensuring their Union Buddies and every Public Trough Feeder is looked after to the detriment of the Public Purse.

    I certainly hope that this generation of Albertans have learned their Lesson that Full on SOCIALISM just doesn’t work – It never has and it never Fkn Will.

    1. Dippers exist so the public service unions can run off with the loot; they don’t care about the Dipper politicos or the taxpayers; they go the loot.

    2. Dippers exist so the punlic service unions can run off with the loot; they don’t care about the Dipper politicos or the taxpayers; they go the loot.

  13. I was against Pallister calling an early election (still bad memories from 2015). Glad to have been proven wrong it’s looking like another rout. “Other” had 3 seats; now it looks like it was zero. Who was Other?

  14. How sad that still some 35+ % of the electorate still Voted for Communists and Thieves.
    Ndp with 18 seats
    Libs with 3

    1. Steakman, with over 60% of all Canadians voting for socialism of some sort it is quite amazing that “only” 35% still voted for commie left.

  15. A strong Conservative win. More importantly, a strong-enough NDP result that Kinew keeps his leader’s job for another four years. Four more years that the NDP will wander in the wilderness without adult supervision.

  16. So a guy who is willing to pick fights, and do what it takes to win them, wins a second term. I expect the CPoC leader to distance himself from the “divisive white supremacist” leader pf Peopletoba.

  17. Looking at the election map, THANK YOU MANITOBA FARMERS AND SOUTHERN RURAL PEOPLE.
    We in the north, back to the communist sinkhole, at least they are powerless with the PC majority.

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