Losing the war

In the past few weeks I’ve come to the conclusion that most provincial premiers are starting to look like Lyndon Johnson during the Vietnam era. Their Chief Medical Officers, in turn, remind me of Robert McNamara. By 1967 LBJ and McNamara were under growing attack for the failure of their Vietnam strategy and yet stubbornly insisted that the war was being won. In 1968 along came the Tet Offensive which collapsed public support for the current strategy and ended the political careers of both men.

Fast forward to today’s pandemic, and it would seem that the Tet Offensive is now upon us.

Six months after receiving the second dose of the two-shot vaccine from Pfizer Inc and BioNTech SE, many recipients no longer have vaccine-induced antibodies that can immediately neutralize worrisome variants of the coronavirus, a new study suggests.

81 Replies to “Losing the war”

  1. The Tet offensive was actually a huge defeat for the NVA. It was the media that turned it into a defeat for the Americans. Same as it ever was?

    1. Correct. The Viet Cong were almost annihilated and the NVA suffered enormous casualties, particularly in their attempt to take The Marine base at Khe Sanh.

    2. So the Tet offensive wasn’t actually a huge defeat for the NVA, because the media turned it into a defeat for the Americans. The NVA and VC suffered huge losses and failed to hold much of the ground they took because they were beaten at tactical and operational levels. But when your enemy quits they are defeated, you win.

  2. Antibodies are not a good indicator of immunity. People who got covid and developed natural immunity will also see their antibodies drop off. Over a third of natural infections don’t develop detectable antibodies at all. It doesn’t mean you no longer have any immunity.

        1. Well what is happening to those heroic memory B cells right now, as the government makes plans to send in a second set of reinforcements for them, with the door open to supplying more reinforcements ad infinitum? What is making them fail at this historical duty they fulfilled?

    1. The mRNA vaccines are failing. Spin all you want, but that’s the simple truth. Which is why we have to provide other more traditional vaccines the long term effects of which are far more understood than the experimental nature of the mRNA’s.

      1. Look at Florida and Ontario. Ontario’s vaccination rate, and the general public awareness of and behaviour toward the pandemic has saved tens of thousands of lives. It saved their families from grief and ruin and tens of thousands more from long term or permanent crippling.

        I guess those don’t count? What do you mean by “fail”? By any rational metric, Florida is a complete failure compared to Ontario.

        1. Same old troll with a new name. I suspect the pharma marketing departments have a large division dedicated to attacking ideas of alternatives to the experiemental drug on the internet. Too much money to be made.

          1. Thanks for posting this comment. It gives me great insight into how the rest of your conspiracy theories are born and how reliable they are.

        2. That’s speculation, not fact, troll. Besides, if what you said is true, then it contradicts Big Pharma, which insists boosters are necessary. If they are necessary, then there is no innate long term protection.
          Deaths of fully jabbed people prove the jabs do not have long term, efficacy.
          Now go chase some headlights, troll!

        3. Are you aware of what is going on in Florida, or are you just assuming because you’re hearing from the media it’s awful there? The areas with the lowest vaccination rates are in the southeast part of the state, namely Miami and surrounding counties, and they have a good number of residents who belong to the two largest demographics across the country with the lowest vaccination rates: Blacks and Hispanics.

          Yes, Florida has plenty of people who are susceptible due to age and/or underlying conditions, but the state is not a monolith. Just like what’s going on in Toronto isn’t like what’s going on in Western Ontario.

          And finally, the Biden administration is dumping a bunch of the people streaming across the US border with Mexico into Florida, and estimates are that at least 15% of the people coming across that border and being allowed to stay have Covid. That’s also a big reason why Texas’ stats are the way they are.

        4. Yes, we know, government is your hero, BOW to your MASTER, SLAVE!

          Never question your masters, now OBEY! OBEY!

          1. Antiq, only idiots fact check opinions. Tell us about Politifact’s expose of the Russia collusion hoax. Just DeMarxist media.

        5. Find one variable that suits your so-called argument, ideologically rinsed of course, then IGNORE EVERY OTHER ONE.
          My study suggests you haven’t got a clue about proper and unbiased analysis.
          Many states have a poorer covid record than Florida; you cherry pick in time and space, ignoring all inconvenient context.
          Government is like an expanding universe. We’re stuck in the status quo, but statists space around us gets bigger and bigger.
          Its energy and mass are dark as well, the real thing undetectable, the collectivist version crowding all societal energy.

          1. Yes, many states DO have a worse record than Florida since vaccinations became available: those that are even less vaccinated. i.e, republican states. Look at the per-capita case and death counts for Idaho, Iowa, Alabama, Alasaka. Compare republican states to democrat states. It goes right down to the county level. Compare Alberta to Ontario. It all tells the same story. You need to be completely detached from reality to believe otherwise.

            As for cherry-picking time, yes! We are looking at how these places have fared *since* a vaccine has been available, which has saved countless lives and could have saved many more if it weren’t for all your misinformation.

        6. When you are inserting the emotional, media driven, weeping and wailing into what looks to be a conversation about science, you give yourself away.
          Convince us with science, not tears. We will all get behind solid and irrefutable facts. If you don’t have that, just bow out and go walk your dog or something.

          1. Are you talking about yourself? Because it really looks like you’re talking about yourself.

            What do they call that? Oh yeah. Projection.

        7. “You have been duped into believing complete and total fiction.”
          Proceeds to pull out the left wing ” fact check” politifact
          LOL talk about obtuse!

          1. Antiq confirms their veracity of opinion and surety of ideas by not allowing replies, yet another arrogant ignorant.
            Why is Florida’s death rate lower than Ontario? Because covid is dynamic but doesn’t play by collectivist rules.
            You’re not a very bright person, accusing others. My misinformation? Yet another mind reading moron (and a killer?).
            You couldn’t be more wrong, being a DeMarxist perhaps, but that doesn’t stop your opinionated ignorant arrogance.
            Florida has the same vaccination rate as the country. Last 14 days US cases and hospitalizations are down 27% and 17%.
            FL cases down 55% and hospitalizations are down 55%. On cases are down 16% and about half death rate of Canada.
            IOW zero basis for you so-called comparison. Do you bother to check your ignorant assumption. Oh, a DeMarxist?
            Your Republican versus Democrat comparison is equally ridiculous.
            Democrat PA, NY, NJ, MI, DC all faring worse on hospitalizations. Meanwhile Florida has the best record.
            In short, you don’t have a clue.

        8. Have you taken a look at Florida lately? With early treatments of Regeneron (hope I spelled that correctly), they have succeeded in reversing the trend. Cases are dropping so fast, that the media has suddenly stopped talking about Florida.

          In fact, Florida is so successful that Biden in his infinite wisdom (using the term loosely) decided to RATION Regeneron from Florida!

          Why? Why would Zao Bay-don do that?

          Meanwhile, Ontario’s cases are still climbing, although the claim is that the 4th wave curve is plateauing, the Hell-th “experts” are still forecasting an increase in cases in the coming months (by November, if I remember correctly).

          1. 61% drop in hospitalizations in Florida! What great news, definitely NOT something they want in the media. The media wants FEAR….oh, and to destroy a potential governor who might appear on the next general election ticket.

        9. Florida is signifcantly OLDER overall than Ontario. For heaven’s sakes, man, it is North America’s favourite Snowbird and retirement destination!

          You are not comparing apples to apples between Ontario and Florida.

          Secondly, there is no statistically significant difference that is also practically significant.

          Like Sweden, supposedly a massive failure. Except not. They saw a material difference between themselves, and say Michigan, BUT it was simply not a sufficient practical difference to warrant Covid Fascism, in thw opinion ofnthe Swedes.

          I think Sweden and Florida will prove successes in the end. Remember, it’s possible to virtually end all viruses. Lock all living things in sealed boxes permanently.

          In Ontario, the operation was a “success”. But the patient is basically fucked.

          Oh and the focus on early treatment now being pursued in Florida is significantly associated with a massive drop in hospitalisations.

          I was never impressed with Canada or its “healthcare system”. After Covid, I have been proven correct.

      2. Good thing Merck is rebranding and reissuing Ivermectin under a new name. When the “new Ivermectin” saves us all (like Nixon saved MY life* by ending the stupid war) … all the FAILED “build back better” politicians will have cover. Cover from having to admit Ivermectin WORKS! As does HCQ.

        * my draft lottery number was low, and the end of 1974 was my call up date

        1. Antiq, Politifact pushes politics and its opinions. It is therefore not a reliable source. Neither is it a fact checker. Which is why I don’t use news or similar sites to back up an argument.

          1. Then use your common sense. How can illegal immigrants spread a disease where there is already huge community spread and where they are already allowing it to run rampant?

            What about states like Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, etc. which have even worse infection rates and deaths? Who is shipping the immigrants there?

            Covid case and death maps line up almost perfectly with republican voting states and conservative provinces (i.e., anti-vax, anti-mask, covid-denial) across the board.

          2. That is your opinion. Go to the actual sites where COVID statistics are provided as well as population statistics. Statistics from AHS and Alberta Government indicate COVID is a minor annoyance.
            Why have you not used US state health and population statistics sites? Or CDC site to back up your claims? And we’re not talking press releases but the web page(s) with the numbers and data.

        2. A lot of people criticized Trump for winning the lottery and never being drafted. Back then I knew a lot of Democrats. They were were my neighbors in Canada.

    2. antiq…TRUE.

      ANTI BODIES are always short lived….regardless of infection type.

      The difference here is that those that partook in this vax were saddled with a genetic treatment….yea, it held up for a few month..but as with ALL Anti Bodies they fade in time. Only problem is with this SHIT, it does not create any T-Cells which as we know are those that provide LIFETIME Immunity.

      So 2-3 shots and in 4-5 months you get Severely sick as the garbage they injected you with has actually reduced your immune response and made you that much more susceptible to various mutations…..part & parcel of the damage that the S1 Spike protein has and is doing…..LOVELY SHIT eh..??

      I’m no Virologist, but I do believe i am correct in the above…??..or at least close to.

  3. It seems that the health, political and media emperors have no clothes. Round up the 4-5 year-olds!

    Normal Calgarians are waking up, not “woke”.

    1. Yes, must use kids as human shields to protect the Teacher’s UNION. It’s disgusting. How many kids have to be crippled, or die from the cytotoxin?
      In BC, only 2 kids have died under age 10, and they already suffered from severe health problems. No healthy kids dead. Period. More kids die of the flu, historically.
      Bonnie BS and her Mengele squad will have blood on their hands when kids start to die.

      1. It is end of your civilization when you sacrifice your children in order to ‘protect’ the older generation. Of course, the ‘vaccines’ do not protect well at all. I sure hope parents stand up to this madness. If I had children, only over my dead body would they be subjected to this horrible experiment.

    2. L

      I sure hope so…..but it seems downtown is infected with Millenials scared & Petrified outa their wits..

  4. How does Jason Kenney manage to be so politically obtuse as to lock preachers in jail for opening churches? That takes a special brand of stupidity considering Christians form his base. The guy’s a witless asshole.

    1. I think Kenny realizes he’s a one term premier and his best shot is to stay in tight with the progressive wing of Canadian conservatism.

    2. May, 2014. Jason Kenney attends Bilderberg Meeting.
      He works for THEM, not US. He is Cabal. Just like Rempel-whatever, attending Klaus Schwab’s “up and coming leadership” indoctrination sessions. They are fake Conservatives. Every single Conservative party member needs to have their previous and present associations with these Globalist Scum thoroughly investigated and if they attended even one, they need to be kicked out of the party.
      Bilderberg, Davos, WEF, CFR, Atlantic Council, etc etc. Should be a disqualifier. No exceptions.

      1. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++/\ Jeff..!!

        Glad Im not the only one who sees that…
        National Socialist Filth.

        1. And why pray tell did our Local Leader of the Muslim Brotherhood – Naheed NENXI go to Bejing not once but twice in the past cpl years..??

          Sure as shit not to get the latest recipe for Ginger Fried Fucking Beef…???
          Meeting with the # 5 Guy on the CCP List of who’s who….the Mayor of Bejing.

          Taxpayer funded no doubt.
          TREASONOUS piece of Shit.

  5. 46 people were tested. Were any sick, hospitalized or died? The study suggests? Poppycock, an obvious setup for 3rd doses.
    Why do many believe they will try? Because they’ve tried every other authoritarian, cockamamie and contradictory measure.
    It’s the opposite of democracy, where all other approaches are worse failures; they do it anyway, unable to temper their top down instincts.
    So they fail to protect vulnerables while quarantining the healthy (to save very few lives?), crushing the economy, running up megadebt.
    Will government finally try to take a bridge too far with 3rd shots to battle ever weaker variants, more akin to a common cold?
    Btw, colds, and influenza and RSV kill people all the time and are more dangerous to kids than covid, there’s no suggestion in that.
    BC’s new K-12 mask mandate shows how notions of protection have been turned on their head. Kids masked, not teachers who infect them.
    News flash: adults give viruses to children, not the other way around. Government again seeks to be perfectly wrong.

  6. I had a premonition after reading about Bonnie Mengele’s new soon to be remaindered autobiography in which she admits she was initially looking after gubmint’s interests, not the people’s.

    She may be departing soon with her own premonition that the gig may soon be up.

    1. Did she get an advance for the book that no one will read or buy? It’s the new way to launder the payoff.

      1. Maybe she should take up painting like Hunter Biden. Pfizer headquarters is always looking for some half million dollar artworks to hang on walls.

      2. Oh, the sheep will buy her book, the same ones that think her fugly shoes are Tres Kool.
        There’s a Bonnie Kult out here, its sickening actually. Just part of the societal psychosis and mass hysteria underway.

      3. I was just saying to my wife that the bribes need not be CASH.
        – Help with certain ventures (book).
        – Future position in the NWO.
        – Speaking fees [see Bubba who has been paid as much as – -$500,000 for a speech]
        – private scholarships for elite universiry tutiton.

        A woman premier of an Aussi state resigned. She’s under investigation for taking MILLIONS from Pharma.
        CASH bribes can be dangerous.

        1. To be honest….I honestly can see it being bribes but with some undisclosed threat of violence should any fall off the narrative…directed at their family’s

      4. She and her sister got an advance and said it would go to charity. However, the post-advance payoff not disclosed. Her sister and co-author, Lynn Henry works for Knopf Publishing, which is part of Penguin Random House publishing which owns Allen Lane Publishing, the publisher of Bonnie and Lynn’s book.
        Rather convenient.
        And yes, as CRA well knows, monies involved in paying authors for books is a great way to launder money or to give legitimacy to bribes.

  7. Had it worked, they maybe could save themselves but it doesn’t. And in Australia the public is becoming aware of the bribery by Pharma lobbyists. And Ivermectin is now recognized as a success in India by the WHO, although it is still the drug that must not be named. Tet offensive indeed. Next we’ll find out that HCQ did wqork after all. And that the whole purpose of vax passes is to force people to take the experimental injections that don’t work but make big profits.

  8. In other words, endless boosters. We’re all part of a big medical experiment with those who refuse to participate getting blamed for its failure. Every death and every filled ICU bed will be blamed on an ever dwindling group of unvaccinated individuals.

  9. I’m sure I heard on CTV news that in Alberta funeral directors are swamped by Covid deaths and cancer victims. This is the second time I’ve seen cancer deaths have increased since vax started. Can someone confirm?

    1. GVB and Dr Malone have both mentioned this anecdotally. In essence, the cytotoxic jab, contains an element that tells the immune system to “stand down”, allowing the insertion of the mRNA into the body without an immune response.
      Their speculation is that this aspect of the toxic jabs, also allows other pathogens to advance in people, including but not limited to, shingles, and yes cancer amongst others.
      Again, it’s anecdotal, but other experts in the anti-jab movement have noticed significant shingles breakouts, and reports of dormant cancer patients all of a sudden stricken by renewed cancer.
      Give me another reason not to take the jab, instead, will rely on treating 250 lb horses with IVM and the Zelenko protocol.
      NO
      MATTER
      WHAT!

    2. Dr Ryan Cole, pathologist with an interest in immunology,says that the rate of endometrial cancer has increased twentyfold since the jabbs started when compared with his previous practice, also more aggressive melanomas. There is a decrease in CD8 killer cells of about 30% of unknown duration postjabb. This would account for both rise in cancer and also reactivation of herpes as shingles, extravagant wart growth, mononucleosis and other conditions usually controlled by an intact immune system. I think the video is on bitchute.

    3. Don’t forget as well the people who weren’t able to get regular screenings for things like cancer because of the focus on Covid, and once the shots became available and the screenings available again getting a cancer diagnosis, some of which was/is at an advanced stage that would have been much more easily treated if it had been caught earlier.

  10. We all know how this goes.
    Government “Deny Deny Deny”.
    Followed by “Thats what we always said”.
    Public anger and Florida’s example will collapse the “Magic Vaccine” meme.
    And our useless hysterical helpers will then claim that they were just following the science,ignoring the simple fact that the science always said that their “vaccine” was impossible and that SARS 1 treatments worked on SARS 2.
    The public heath bureaus have denied the sick treatment for political purposes for 18 months,resulting in a slaughter of citizens in direct government care.
    They have denied the obvious and used F.U.D to cloud this issue.
    Ill intent or natural incompetence?
    No longer matters,we are further damaged by their idea of help.
    Reward them accordingly.
    Disband these bureaus.
    For they are now proven to be worse than nothing.
    And the creators of more public hysteria than a totally uninformed citizenry.

  11. Pretty good comparison I’d say. McNamara was your quintessential technocrat, a systems analysis guy from the Ford Motor company who thought he could run the war by playing the numbers game just as they’re doing now. What he didn’t count on were highly inflated kill numbers from those in the field and dare I say it even from his top General. although he denied any knowledge of it.
    Even as a kid watching the evening news with Walter Cronkite, Wally would give out the daily kills night after night as if he was reading baseball scores
    I remember being stunned by the numbers, for example one night it’d be VC dead -1,670…U.S. dead – 3, next night more of the same. I remember thinking that at this rate they’ll be going home by Christmas. But It was all a lie. Just as it is now. One big effing lie.
    TET may have been a contributing factor to the fatigue American people were experiencing but there was a whole bunch of other stuff that went on as well. My Lai added another layer of horribleness.
    The media helped start the war (Gulf of Tonkin) but changed sides when the war wasn’t going as well as planned so they hitched their wagons to the hippie leftists of the 60’s, who unsurprisingly, are today’s fascists.
    I blame the media. Save for a few…they’re just a despicable lying bunch of pricks and still are.
    My two cents.
    If you’re interested Errol Morris’ “Fog of War” is a work of art that features a very remorseful McNamara.

    1. @burton: great points.

      I think a complementary fact to overestimating enemy combatant kill numbers was the grossly deliberate underestimation in civilian/non-combatant deaths directly owing to “kinetic action”. No one will ever know the actual number of deaths.

      I met the fellow who at the time of the Gulf Of Tonkin incident had been a navy radio operator. He was the only person who had the guts to come forward to state that the government’s casus belli was a fraud. He was a very smart and courageous man and it’s rather surprising he has lived to a ripe old age. Today I’m sure it would be quite different, as Julian Assange’s case and Hillary’s/CIA plan to assassinate same would suggest.

      When McNamara realized his entire strategy was garbage, he authorized a massive internal study to learn where it all went wrong. The Pentagon Papers were the result. The government was furious with McNamara when they discovered he was documenting the lies and deception. Which of course is the very opposite of what a good government functionary is supposed to do. Cover up and deny.

      The upshot was the generals knew for a long time they’d never win the war, but since it was good for business and a good offensive posture for the Cold War, they pretended they had a winning strategy and were zealous in advising continued prosecution of the conflict.

      The Pentagon Papers had an interesting connection to both Watergate and Assange. The Watergate burglars had been looking for dirt on Ellsberg to discredit the disclosures. The Supreme Court ruled that the conviction of the NYT would be an unwarranted infringement of constitutionally protected free speech. Now of course these media organs are captured by the deep state and not only self-censor, but active promote and distribute disinformation to protect the government.

  12. It seems to be just an excuse to keep moving the goalposts.
    Xiden Zhou first said 60% with the poison jab. Now he says must be 98%. What next? Must be 106%? The stories coming out of Israel and other places where there are high death rates among the vaccinated seem to be just excuses to keep us in perpetual lock down. Sadly, the majority of the sheeple are good with that.

    Example, when Kenney reneged and put Alberta back into lock down a guy angrily claimed there would be thousands more dying because of the summer lifting. This same guy had gone, last summer, to a rural restaurant that was over crowded for normal times not just COVID. I was there the same time. None in our group were infected. Other than going home mad about terrible service we are all still healthy. This same guy, who is now mad at me for pointing these things out, rushed into town to eat in a restaurant before the current lockdown went into effect. The reason I am relating this is to point out how brainwashed the sheeple are. They are happy with being ordered around and refuse to recognize the contradictions.

  13. Alex Berenson for the win:

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/so-much-for-vaccine-generated-herd

    “So much for vaccine-generated herd immunity In an Israeli hospital outbreak, 96% vaccination rates (and universal masking) made no difference. And guess who had mild cases? Hint: not the vaccinated.

    A reader tipped me to this fascinating paper in a peer-reviewed journal about a Covid outbreak in Israel that began in mid-July, just as vaccine failure was accelerating there.

    A vaccinated dialysis patient was admitted to Meir Medical Center – a large Israeli hospital near Tel Aviv – with fever and cough. He remained on the dialysis unit for days, as his condition worsened. (One of many problems with overselling the vaccines is that it led to mistakes like this.)”

  14. The New Tet was when we let the Chinese flood us with a lab made virus created by splicing a pangolin virus to a bat virus. And optimizing it as a human centric bio weapon. The real genius? Getting the US taxpayers to foot the bill. And convincing half of us none of that is true.

  15. Realistically, we closed down our society, endured many mandates, have been forced into taking untested vaccines or found ourselves as second class citizens and are currently listening to them plan to vaccinate our kids….all because a large portion of our population decided each and every day to make poor health decisions about what they ate and how much to exercise their bodies.
    Obesity and diabetes are the most common co-morbidities with Covid deaths.
    Now, the unhealthy want to punish us for helping them out in this massive jam they found themselves in. (I’m looking at you Rob Ford) Essentially the healthy folks who made good decisions each day, have to pay the price for the sins of the unhealthy. AND we are being vilified for being “selfish”.

    1. This is not about unhealthy choices. It is about government control. Even the unhealthy are not dying in significant numbers to warrant what is happening. Those dying from Covid are just a smoke screen to implement universal vaccines and passports,

  16. Oh, Vietnam? I wish reincarnations were possible. I’d start with Kennedy, and move on to McNamara and the rest of the Whiz Kids. Reincarnation, live incineration, network television, and someone with a deep sonorous radio voice reading the names of the Vietnam dead. Wash repeat. There are two dead I knew well. Good average kids. Either one worth a thousand “Body Count Bobs”

  17. I got my two doses.
    I’m not getting a third.
    I never planned on getting a yearly flu shot before the Wuhan attack.

    As noted in the NP comments: “From two weeks to flatten the curve to mandatory government injections for life in under two years. Congratulations Canada.”

  18. Johnson and McNamara, eh?

    Here I was, thinking that they were looking more like Ngo Dinh Diem & Co.

    May they end up the same way.

  19. Doesn’t seem to matter if our Provincial governments are liberal or Conservative, both are using tyranny and rhetoric to turn us against each other. Listening to the media refer to the unvaccinated is akin to listening to the German socialists circa 1920s ply the public with anti-semetic poison. Am I the only one who’s noticed that our governments at all levels are taking a page out of the Nazi playbook via dehumanizing and victimizing those who refuse to comply with our Dear Leaders. I’m not forking complying, gag on that tyrants.

    1. Horrible. I believe China orchestrated the pull- out. China owns Biden. Such corruption everywhere.

  20. Just wondering if anyone noticed that Joe Rogan had cobid but, by taking ivermectin, had a quick recovery. He then went on to win the “Kentucky Derby”

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