The Sound Of Settled Science

Unsettled Science 36 Comments

…about 300 years ago, Sir Isaac Newton introduced the idea that all matter exists at points called particles. One hundred fifty years after that, James Clerk Maxwell introduced the electromagnetic wave – the underlying and often invisible form of magnetism, electricity and light. The particle served as the building block for mechanics and the wave for electromagnetism – and the public settled on the particle and the wave as the two building blocks of matter. Together, the particles and waves became the building blocks of all kinds of matter.

36 Replies to “The Sound Of Settled Science”

  1. If “fragments” of energy are the fundamental building blocks of the universe, how is that energy transported? Ever hear of photons?

    And, no, the “public” didn’t “settle” on particles and waves. Those were determined to best describe the phenomena that were observed.

    This concept reminds me of the barmy idea of an electric universe:

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Electric_Universe

    or the nutcase Randell Mills:

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Randell_Mills

    I started reading his book and gave up after a few pages when he started blathering on about fractional quantum leaps or some such thing.

    1. I am the master at getting that glazed eyed looked of boredom and attention wondering trying to bring to light the 8 to 10 simultaneously working areas as our planetary process is so complex.
      Extremely fascinating how life is created and interacts with constant changed environment.
      But hey, thats just my enjoyment of learning.
      Our educators and government could care less as it makes the 99% very nervous as our monetary system is all that matters.

    2. Excuse me dear Rupertslander,
      Rabndall Mills has been on CNN.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omUSfYuVT1c

      If the CNN fact checkers never questioned the claim of “10,000 suns in a coffee cup”, then you and I must believe it.

      How could 10,000 suns in a coffee cup ever be considered controversial? I am also investing in bridges.

      // CNN is f*ing stupid.

      1. Don’t forget that CNN stopped any decent science reporting when it canned Myles O’Brien a number of years ago.

        Randell Mills was one of those who was an apostle for “cold fusion” and he came up with his flaky ideas to explain what happened.

  3. B.A.D. and VOWG – Don’t you guys ever sleep? I wish I could turn your energy into dollars… I too am a bit skeptical that the theory will withstand the test of time but it is simple enough and the authors appear to be of Jewish and German heritage and both cultures have a good track record of scientific discoveries. They’re in mechanical engineering which is the best discipline LOL.
    Great discovery Kate (you don’t seem to sleep much either).

    1. PH, I have had insomnia most of my life it has gotten worse as the years have accumulated. Oh well, at least there are some people around to communicate with.

      2. I did my best work after midnight at Uni. Then I got by with about an hour or two a day, for 30 odd years, working in The Patch, or out in the bush drilling hard rock. I’m an expert on sleep deprivation and what it does to you and what you can do to deal with it. Hallucinations-R-Us can be a problem, though. I got tales about that. Driving became “interesting”. I used to drive a lot, to and fro the jobs. Up to 14 hours at a stretch and then start work, or home. Now I’m lucky to sleep 3-4 hours at a stretch, any night, or day. It doesn’t matter. Alternate days, or every three days. I go a week on “cat naps”, then crash for a day at a time. Only got up to eat, then crash again. I found eating keeps you awake when I was working, so does Jolt Cola and chocolate chip cookies. Dare double chocolate cookies were also a fav. Especially driving long distances. Miracle food.
        Never take pills to sleep, or stay awake. When you’re beat, you’ll sleep.

        1. Jolt cola… all the sugar and twice the caffeine. That takes me back.

          Now it’s all monster and bed bull. Marketed at 16 year old gamers.

          1. I could only buy that stuff in places like Pink Mountain, Wonowon, Fort St John, or Nelson, BC. The long haul truckers headed for Whitehorse/Watson Lake musta guzzled that stuff. Before Red Bull. A few pulls on Jolt and I was good for a couple of hundred klicks! Didn’t have to prop the eyelids open.
            Tims in Spruce Grove would get me into Calgary.

    2. While I was a grad student, I often slept, at most, 6 hours overnight but, one or two times during the day, I’d sack out for, maybe, half an hour.

      I never got out of that habit.

      1. BAD – They say Churchill had the same habit; he slept about 4 hours then took naps in the day. He lived to 92 in spite of what the majority of medical doctors would tell you about lack of sleep.
        VOWG – I took an organizational behavior course from the most interesting prof I ever had. He said if you can’t sleep, it’s because of conflict between the left and right hemispheres in your brain. Something about one hemisphere is taking stock of issues that need to be resolved but the other hemisphere needs to solve them. The solution he said was to get up, write the issue that is troubling you, if you know it, write a possible task to address it (which could be to find the solution) and go back to sleep. It usually works for me. Some insomnia isn’t caused by this scenario obviously…

        1. PH2, my main “Issue” is not being able to sleep for more than an hour or two at a time, and waking on every tiny creak at night. On rare occasions I might get three hours at one stretch, but it is rare. Some nights, I don’t get any sleep at all. If I sit down in a lazy-boy in the evening, I might nod off for twenty minutes or so, but not sleep at night. It was a real bummer when I worked for a living, but now retired, I just shrug, as I usually don’t have many pressing issues during the day. Yet I long for one or two full nights sleep.

          As a teenager, I could sleep twelve to fourteen hours at a stretch, and was so out cold, you could run a vacuum around me and I wouldn’t wake. Now as an old fart, I guess I’m getting payback for all the blissful sleeps I had back then.

          I’ve done the hallucinations bit a few times too. One time I remember driving late at night in patchy fog, after being on the road and awake for two days (yeah, young and stupid, I know) I was convinced I was being chased by “something, or someone”, and they were using the fog to slow me down, fortunately the “IT”, didn’t catch me, and I got home safely, at about three AM. Ahh, the grand memories of youth.

          1. Gerryk – You should talk to a medical professional. If they can help, you’ll feel like a new person. Re hallucinations – I remember driving home from skiing in my 20s and seeing a narrow bridge about a mile ahead on a two lane road. The next thing I recall is being in the center of the bridge. Must have blacked out for 5 seconds. I had my girlfriend’s sister with me.

      2. Ugh. Grad school! Knowing what I know now I never would have bothered! But I guess the purpose of doing many things is to guide you away from doing things that are unproductive or unsatisfying and in that they have purpose.

  4. the Sun was modeled the same way, but the photon was modeled as a minuscule fragment of energy moving at the speed of light. In both problems, we calculated the trajectories of the moving fragments and got the same answers as those predicted by the theory of general relativity.

    It seems like he got tired of writing here and just wrapped it up before he got to the good parts, which make me wonder if there are any “good parts.” Did he make this calculation with no reference to GR? Completely independently? I have always wondered if the concept of warping spacetime was just a mathematical kludge to overcome failure to describe some more fundamental laws but this article doesn’t put me any closer to thinking that it exists or has been found. At some point it all comes down to the way you look at the problem.

    OK, I went to the original abstract, the article is paywalled.

    Next, independent of the new formulation, this article introduces a new space-time adjustment.

    So they have a dial that they can turn to make it all work…

    2. Much of our science is based without the inclusion of motion. Observational science was a very bad way in teaching when we use it as history which gave the false impression that everything was flat as our eyes perceived it that way.
      Example: Looking at the Sun, it appears flat but through other venues, we understand it is an orb. Now add in what we don’t incorporate, it is a rotating orb. Add into this, as an orb, it has a multitude of velocities. Only a rotating cylinder would have the same velocity being evenly….so you see what we have missed in science.

  6. More than 30 years ago I bought a book on Quantum Physics, written for the layman. In Search of Schrodinger’s Cat, it was. That book talks about subatomic particles being nothing more than packets of energy. This is not a new theory. There has been plenty of evidence to suggest it might be right.

    1. My research is very different as I look at what particles is being looked at in order to understand the time it takes to travel and the route of travel.
      Straight line like light and its weight is very different than measuring the exhausted energy from our Sun in an orbital fashion takes 66 days, where light to our planet takes 8 minutes.

      Getting the old cogs a working in your brain right now?

  7. Pseudo-science bs on par with verbal diarrhea. Oh, Newton wasn’t the guy who cam up with particles, either. The article is designed to misinform the gullible.

  8. But instead of improving on particles or waves, he eliminated them as he proposed the warping of space and time.”
    Except he still considered matter to be particles moving in spacetime, and he predicted gravitational waves.

    You should delete this post, Kate. Its of the same caliber as the tabloid two headed baby or pod people ate my brother stories.

  9. This is an issue that needs the contribution of Canada’s quantum computing expert. “Particweth are made up of particwy thingieth and they do particwy thtuff.”

    1. Ah, you beat me to it, BADR. Obviously, the real authority from whom to seek resolution to the question is that PoS in Ottawa.

  10. “Our theory begins with a new fundamental idea – that energy always “flows” through regions of space and time.”

    What is new about this? From the ‘Tao Te Ching’:

    Something mysteriously formed,
    Born before heaven and Earth.
    In the silence and the void,
    Standing alone and unchanging,
    Ever present and in motion.
    Perhaps it is the mother of ten thousand things.
    I do not know its name
    Call it Tao.

    5,000 years ago, Eastern philosophers posited that the universe is a giant energy field that pops into existence here and there. Examine the verse; the Tao was formed before heaven and earth, i.e. it is not a thing that was made, but a thing that existed before the Big Bang, for example. These guys claim their new idea is that the ‘energy is always flowing’. What does “Ever present and in motion” mean?

    As my father told me once, there is nothing, son, under the gnu.

    1. Big question no one has answered is why and how planets and Suns are orbed shaped and rotate?
      That is strictly by friction.
      When you eliminate our science as bullshit and start over with a clean slate and different avenue of studies…

      Our planet is scooped up by our Sun’s exhausted gases mostly Nitrogen as many objects hit our Sun, burns up and expelled out too. The velocities in orbit are slightly weaker due to distance as the exhausted games are like streamers in orbit.
      This compacts our atmosphere, shapes our orb by friction and rotates it in a current orbit.
      The velocities mathematics can bare all this out.
      So fascinating and highly complex as you add in our planets refraction and other areas of study.

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