62 Replies to “The Sound Of Settled Science”

  1. “There were 130,000 glaciers when Al Gore was born – and now there are only 130,000 of them.” 🙁

    😉

  2. “Glaciers will disappear from the basin in about 65 to 80 years.”

    Getting smarter with their predictions – highballing the numbers so our friend “Pelto” will be long gone when it’s time to reset the doomsday clock.

    This is my favourite – “Those models work pretty well in the absence of data,…”
    I’ll bet they do.

    1. You beat me to it, burton: “Those models work pretty well in the absence of data”. There’s the money quote for the whole AGW nonsense.

    2. Models are what has given us the whu who flu insanity. They continue to discuss models.

  3. An earlier study led by Menounos found that B.C. glaciers are melting at four times the rate in the past 10 years compared to the decade before

    An earlier “study” propped-up on horribly flawed “models”? You bet. And when will those prior “studies” be updated with the new MEASURED DATA? Let me guess … NEVER.

      1. There have been four (4) separate glaciations (“ice-ages”), and thus four separate warming periods, in the most recent quarter-million years of Earth’s geologic history that we have direct evidence for. I wonder what caused those? Certainly wasn’t pickup trucks and coal power plants. Earth’s climate has been changing for as long as it has existed.

      1. They have found a shit load of dino remains and the findings from China in the last 30 years are spectacular …. especially all the preservation of feathers.
        Get this book for a good read on Dinos https://www.amazon.ca/Rise-Fall-Dinosaurs-History-World/dp/0062844660#:~:text=In%20a%20stunning%20narrative%20spanning%20more%20than%20200,astonishing%20diversity%2C%20cataclysmic%20extinction%2C%20and%20startling%20living%20legacy.
        Here is a good summary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenyuanlong
        The preservation of the feathers is amazing https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=8fS0yN6L&id=B709EB7CD326854BF4A1629528C4986A68E0C0F2&thid=OIP.8fS0yN6LpBL_k5ucmNRXsAHaHH&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fd%2Fd7%2FZhenyuanlong_feathers.jpg&exph=910&expw=946&q=Zhenyuanlong+Featherd&simid=608032438878013097&ck=8EA4E2D20AE210CC273508DA63194875&selectedindex=0&form=IRPRST&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&sim=11

      2. Prediction that goes beyond 2085 is safe to do in the lamestream that always downplays old mistakes and always overplays the becoming disaster.

        I think there should a betting market which monetizes the stupidity of people who actually believe in sea level rise of 2m before 2100, for the good of the people who need that money for development.

        In other news, we got our first inch of global warming here this year. The kids were happy to play in it.

  4. Even though they are apparently not melting away, don’t worry, they’re still going to. Any day now. And Obama’s house will be underwater too! And 85 million people voted for Biden!

  5. None of the mainstream science or Universities will touch my fact based science.
    I wanted to understand our planets speed when you take away its pressure…

    http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lalonde-joe/world-calculations.pdf
    http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lalonde-joe/world-calculations-2.pdf

    Cool point on this research water changes at the 42nd degree latitude…
    When you really look into science without government interference, then you see some real interesting fact based science.
    Time in different areas is quite fascinating.

    1. Garth Wood, thanks for the chuckle, albeit your comment is also a serious one.

      You may have come across investment newsletter hucksters who claim they can predict markets based on their proprietary MODEL. The breathless claim is usually: it back-tested perfectly.

      1. “According to my model, my model is correct.”

        The money quote is “According to our models, all the data is wrong.”

        1. If the data doesn’t agree with your model, you need new and better data.

          3. “It can be difficult getting somebody to believe you when his salary depends on his not believing you.”

    2. Indeed. And according to my scary-looking CHART … you should be very, very, SCARED! Very, very, FEARFUL. Very, very … AFRAID. Pay no attention to the cherry-picked start dates and exaggerated y-axes.

  7. I’m not seeing enough panic and fear out amongst the plebes. We need a little something extra. 😉

  8. My theory is that if the new snow does not melt by the end of September, then it will accumulate to become an old glacier.

    New snow, old glacier

    I am not a scientist, but have stayed at a Holiday Inn once.

      1. BA, don’t disparage Al, he managed to scare enough people into believing his diatribe to the point it made him two hundred million bucks plus, so I’d say the business model is sound. I bet there are a lot of real scientists that wish they had thought up the hype to “fund their research” on a semi permanent basis.

        1. And, thanks to him, there aren’t too many people who have reptiles in need of lubrication.

  9. The difference, of course, between actual climate scientists and, say, folks like us, is that they still publish research that goes against their predictions, whereas us SDA’ers are already so certain that we’re right that we would never consider–let alone admit–otherwise.

    1. Some transcendental meditationists claim the ability to fly.
      I have dismissed this out of hand. As George Costanza might have asked, Is that wrong? Should I research this further.

      I use logic to help me assess the worthiness of a claim. With “climate change” I am wont to ask, Why is Co2 the ONLY factor believed to be the cause? Why never that big yellow ball? We know the answer: to make man the culprit, to have an excuse to destroy fosil fuel-dependent modern industrial economists.

    2. SDA readers depend on their working models if reality for their daily bread. That’s why they rarely have to admit they were wrong.

      Only tenured professors have the luxury of being utterly and consistently wrong about everything and still getting to enjoy three square meals a day.

      1. Oh, I distinctly remember Kate threatening to ban people for spreading whack-a-doodle conspiracy theories like “Wuhan Coronavirus originated in a bioweapons research lab” and “Wuhan Coronavirus isn’t anywhere near as deadly as we’re being told”.

        We’ve all decided to pretend none of that ever happened.

    3. There is an idiot who writes in the Sun all of the time . He claims we are doomed because it rained in Calgary last December. Funny thing, that’s not the first time it happened.
      Snow was non-existent in Calgary for the 1988 Olympics. Not the first time it happened and won’t be the last.
      John Palliser in the mid 19th century advised against settlement in what is now Southern Alberta because he found it to be a desert.
      The Earth was warmer before the glaciers appeared. There were no capitalists driving SUV’s to start them melting. They will eventually melt unless a cold period starts again.
      For the umpteenth time. Climate change has been happening ever since the Earth acquired an atmosphere. It has very little, to nothing, to do with the existence of humans other than certain humans exploiting it for gain and power.

      1. MikeT, you shhh now, you’re causing fear to subside in the plebe’s, and that affects the business model funding of the climate alarm er, um, climate scientists, that need those funds for ongoing research into how to fleece the system further! Besides, we’ve moved on, we couldn’t get enough cooperation from the citizenry, so it’s all Covid now.

        Fear is the great motivator, see how well it’s working for the Covid thing, so we can’t have people thinking things through with logic and sensible evaluation, that’ll really screw up the reset plans….oops, did I just admit the truth?

    4. Yawn. If the geologic models I work with almost every day were as out-of-touch with reality as the climate models, and I signed off on them as the QP of the property as being usable and an accurate reflection/prediction of the property being represented, I would lose my engineering license and be in jail for attempting to defraud investors.

  11. Given the preference for growing or shrinking glaciers, I’ll take the later. Good science on the issue would be hard to fund from government grants. You essentially have to state that you want to reinforce the warming hypothesis to get funding. No one else need apply.

    1. John Crittick, which is why Eishenhower warned against government scientific research. The funding applicants know the desired outcomes.

      1. That’s pretty much how research of any kind is funded. If the hypothesis isn’t proven, then claim “another xxx years….” for more money. It’s worked for fusion for at least half a century.

  12. The only things thicker than those glaciers are the heads of the climate ‘scientists’ and the fearful sheep who keep believing this junk.

  13. We are still in an ice age. We are in a warming trend humans are not going to reverse by taxing it. If the glaciers quit melting we are in a lot of shit in 10,000 years. Cold shit.

    1. Let me clarify that for you “… for 10,000 years.” That’s the order of magnitude of glaciation spells give or take some thousands of years, according to models subject to tweaking.
      But you are right it will be cold s#!t

  14. Climate change has definitely caused the forest fires in California – we’re constantly told.

    Canada’s area burned in 2020 is likely to be 92% below the last ten years’ average. We can count on the media reporting this. Right?

    Apparently climate change obeys Covid travel restrictions.

    https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/report

    1. PJ … good find but note it is only up to date to Sept 9th and so missing several months.
      Cheers.

  15. Hey …. models are always right, isn’t that what you want?

    Real world sucks, in virtual world everything, but everything works out exactly as predicted.
    If by chance its not working out, you just leave something out, put more stuff in, until it agrees with you.

    You gotta love virtual world.

    You can’t have more perfection.

    1. Yes. All the models agree that socialism is the way to go. Models are never wrong!

      In theory there’s no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra.

  16. I am not sure what makes me angriest.

    Perhaps it is the fact that even confronted with stark evidence that their previous knowledge was quite incorrect, they none the less stick to their conclusions. They simply move the goalposts when they find themselves losing.

    Or perhaps it is the notion that there are tens of thousands of these folk making exorbitant salaries on the government tab, pretending to do research, but in reality simply affirming what our political betters need to hear in order to proceed with their agendas.

    1. woodporter, they have been predicting the second coming of Christ, real soon, for about 2000 years now, and why has he never shown his face, go figure who set the rules for predicting disaster to scare the HELL out of people.

  17. the same group of government mathematicians have moved on to covid projections , they still owe us 12 ft of sealevel rise by 2012

  19. 10 years ago, the great lakes were “at an all time low… It’ll take 100 years (if ever) to get back to normal.
    For the last few years, we’ve been in flooding disaster alert.

    1. – From WattsUpWithThat, “Flannery of the Underflow”:

      “I had written him a letter now the weather’s getting wetter
      Asking why he felt so certain we would never more see rain.
      He was ranting when I met him so I sent a note to get him
      To reply to all my questions, just in case he’d grown a brain.

      Flanners, tell us all, I pray you, why you chose the scary way you
      Once announced that all of Oz would soon be nothing more than dust.
      It’s been piddling down for days now and I can’t describe the ways how
      You perverted western science in a wicked breach of trust.

      And an answer came directed from a place quite unexpected
      (And I think the crayon used was all the nursing staff allowed)
      ‘Twas his Climate Council buddy, Andrew Stock, as thick as Ruddy:
      “Flanners flew to Cancún Sunday where his climate facts are wowed.”

      In my fancy I saw planners lapping up the threats of Flanners
      As they pondered how to use them to strip punters of their dough,
      And they dreamed of windmills turning (just ignore that big one burning)
      For the planners run the media so the punters never know.

      I am sitting in my drippy little shed where a nippy
      Draught of frigid air is goosing pimples up and down my arms,
      And the chilly wind and drizzle change my whinging to a grizzle
      As I hear the news of cresting dams and waves on flooded farms.

      And in place of dust and dryness there is mould and temps of minus
      And the puddles on the lawn have all conjoined to form a lake,
      And the language oh so slighting of “deniers” is inciting
      Me to punch my television and scream “Flannery’s a flake.”

      And the scheming warmers daunt me, and their threats of horrors taunt me
      To retort: the cyclone count is down and temps refuse to rise!
      But their models and their theories and their clear distaste for queries
      Mean their true belief reduces science to to “denier lies.”

      If I fancied tossing spanners I suppose I’d swap with Flanners,
      Swanning ’round the warming circles while he’s raking in the dough,
      While I face the round eternal of the absence of infernal
      Global warming – what a bastard, Flannery of the Underflow.”

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/09/global-warming-poetries-battle-of-the-algorhymes/#comment-2484807

  20. The one good thing about this study is that it may have a bearing on Canadian elections. Evidently Canadian voters are also about 38% thicker than what was previously thought. That would explain Li’l Tater Head getting elected for a second time.

  21. Climate Change. CoVid.
    What’s next?
    They keep coming up with ways to take our money, suppress our businesses, discourage any fuel use that lets us travel, curb our inventiveness, and limit our vacations, trips, freedoms, and enjoyable events (like crowd-filled baseball, football, and hockey games in arenas; like live music concerts, like movies in theatres, like pubs and restaurants) .
    Climate Change and CoVid are busts. The fraud will inevitably fade away. We’ll all claw back our freedoms and continue doing the things we enjoy. They don’t want us to do that. So … What will they come up with next?
    I predict: aliens.

    1. “Hope ith a commodity that Canadianth can no wongew affowd. Thawving, fweething, and being in conthtant feaw wiww awwow Canada to be thuthtainabwe and meet the UN’th agenda.”

      Thank you, Prinz Dummkopf.

  22. The whole glacier thing is so freaking dumb. Glaciers melt and they melt faster the smaller they get. These scumbags keep trying to make it out like glaciers melting is unusual when it’s normal. I know they say well they’re melting extra fast or whatever but that’s not the message they’re peddling in their dire press releases.

  25. Did some back of the envelope math one night,positing that there was 3 miles of ice over the North 20’000 years ago I simply divided mile by years to get 9.5 inches per year..
    Over an area from the ice cap to around New York..

    9.5 inches per year from an enormous glacier..
    Mind boggling.
    Except this is total BS,almost as “true” as the computer models.
    For that ice sheet melted in an astonishingly short time,in geologic terms.
    Can you imagine the Suzuki’s whining if that was going on today?
    Imagine the Mighty MacKenzie Plugged solid in the north and the ice melt flowing south through the badlands..
    Gives a whole new meaning to erosion.

    Hopefully once they beggar us all,we will indulge in past sports,such as stone the parasite,drive the warmists out onto ice flows where we can make book on which ones perish when..Oh the good old days that they insist we must return to..

  26. This is a la niña year and the sun is at a minimum. It should mean in the West, snowy and cold, although we sure aren’t there yet. It is all a part of the short and long cycles of heating and cooling over which we have no control.

    If we see enough cooling, increasing ice, they’ll still call it climate change emergency — global war ming having been rebranded for that entirely predictable eventuality. We’ll continue to pour aid we can’t afford abroad including into sinking South Pacific islands (that never sink) so they can build airports for East Asian tourists and occupiers.

    It’ll still always be our fault, we must pay and pay and ultimately freeze, no matter how the climate plays out, just so long as it plays to someone else’s power and yacht collection.

    Once the this Corona wave recedes the news will be all progressive, all fear, and climate terror, all the time, whether it is sunny or stormy. That and what a great team Grandpa Brittle Bones and Socks McReset are.

    How dare I! (Damn Gretourettes, I’m in my ninth bout, just can’t shake it).

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