56 Replies to “Trust in Professions”

  1. What silliness! A profession doesn’t confer morality onto a person!
    (Even less so if one is in a profession where deception is the rule…lawiars shouldn’t have scored as high as they did, neither should urinalists)
    I don’t arbitrarily trust anybody. How each INDIVIDUAL acts will tell me whether they are trustworthy or not.

    1. The average man/woman in the street garners a 57% score? So truthfulness by the average fellow human is only slightly better than a coin flip? That sounds about right. Which is why I conduct my life as a skeptic. My mother was born in the “show me State” … whose motto is imprinted in my soul. Prove it. I won’t believe you until you prove it. I never believe half of what I hear than what I see. Therefore, I’ve navigated my life without making any catastrophic errors of misjudgment. So far, so good.

      1. Yep, and we believe the average man or woman, more than twice what we trust some journo is propagating.

        1. Societal trust is highest in like minded and cultured groups. The more homogeneous your neighbourhood is, the more likely you are to trust your neighbours. The more diverse an area is, the less public trust.

          1. There are some neighbours I would trust far more than one of my cousins. She’s blood, they share a culture with me. Culture is more dependable in this case.

          2. Kenji

            Indeed. Tribalism is so deeply embedded in our DNA that any attempt to change our instincts and behavior is almost futile

      2. Well Kenji we have the whu who flu and a fraudulent election, that says a great deal about the man in the street.

  2. I think that survey is clearly wrong. There’s no way journalists got 23%. Impossible…

    That’s just way too high a score.

      1. Bogus, “I think that survey is clearly wrong. There’s no way journalists got 23%. Impossible…
        That’s just way too high a score.”
        agree 1000%

        B A Deplorable Rupertslander, “Same with professors.”
        Beat me to it,,, taking the words right out of my mouth!

        1. Great minds think alike, eh?

          When I was an undergrad, I admired and respected most of my professors. (There were a few jackasses in the crowd and the less said about them the better.) Part of it was because they knew what they were talking about because they had done their hard time in industry, either in a design office or out in the field.

          Nowadays, engineering professors are hired directly out of university with no industrial experience whatsoever. In fact, working for a living and practicing one’s profession in the real world before finishing one’s doctorate is now considered a liability.

          Frankly, I’m not impressed with many of the young engineering profs I’ve dealt with in recent years. Fortunately, I don’t have to worry about it any more because I’m retired and no longer practicing.

          1. BA, “Fortunately I don’t have to worry about it any more”, Um you’re talking about engineering, bridge building and such. Shouldn’t you be More worried now, you’ll no longer have any input into the designs!

  3. I read the list of professions and honestly (ha ha) had to say “no” to all of them.

    Next year’s list, after the COVID Camps open, will have some exciting new professions listed: Camp Kommandant, Camp Guard, Camp Doctor, Sonderkommando.

    Better be careful how you rank those new professions on the survey.

    1. Disagree. I had cancer surgery three weeks ago, and was in hospital for three days. One nurse who cared for me was a good-looker, who races stock cars (and some demolition derby), 5’8″ and blonde. She was sweet to me the entire time. About 25-28 years old. Nurses deserve their high ranking.

  4. C’mon people. With iconic, high profile, shoe-leather watchdog journalists like Jeff Toobin out there, how can the profession rank so low?

    …..OK, bad example.

  5. Polls are for idiots. And one look at Ipsos Mori main page tells me everything I need to know about…polls.

    At Ipsos we believe our clients need more than a data supplier, they need a partner who can produce accurate and relevant information and turn it into actionable truth.

    That’s usually code for – “tell us what you want to hear and we’ll make it happen for ya”

  6. But Global/UNIFOR says their poll found 70% of Canadians trust the news.
    And how much of that 70% was in the “somewhat don’t trust” category?

    1. MikeT,”But Global/UNIFOR says their poll found 70% of Canadians trust the news.”
      That survey was done among the friends and relatives of MEDIA employees.

    1. Nor Farmers, Grocery Store managers, or Food Processers,,,, none from the food supply system.
      I’d be interested to see where those three fell in with the others listed.

  7. I scrolled down as far as teachers, (85%), and having observed the product they generate I didn’t bother to go further.

    1. Today’s teachers don’t deserve a trust ranking any higher than journalists. They are both basically in the same game, preaching a narrative. Actually teachers should be even lower than journalists because they are preaching it to a captive under-aged audience. I’m generalizing of course; there are some teachers and some journalists that deserve trust, but the majority in their respective guilds is not making it easy for them to get it.

    1. I bought a motorcycle from Farmer Jones and got the better of the deal. The rookie salesman warned me that the machine burnt oil (blue exhaust) and kept cutting out. Not hard to negotiate a low price. The unit was a 1974 Kawasaki H2, a three cylinder two stroke 750cc (with expansion chambers and a pearlescent paint job) that was a dry sump (no oil in the crankcase) and relied on oil injected into the air/fuel flow. Of course it burned blue. The cut out probem was due to a 3AG (North American size) fuse installed in a Japanese (larger) holder. The H2 did a standing start quarter mile in 12.0 seconds. Once, coming home from Edmonton, I downshifted twice and nailed it to pass someone on AB#2 and the back tire spun, at 110 kph. Another time I gave it too much throttle on an entry ramp and the front end went airborn – at 80 kph.

  8. How many crooked museum curators does it take to knock 18 points off the poll. Is this a problem?

    Sure the British museum continues to hold the artifacts of the rest of the planet in their vaults, dark and safe…ohhh wait.

    How tf did museum curators get 82%!?

  9. Medical professionals are trusted that much? I want a second opinion.

    Medical professionals just demonstrated the peak of their power advising politicians on how to handle the China disease – and they have screwed up badly by ignoring science.

    In the near future it would be nice to see medical professionals taken down a notch, we already have too many hypochondriac, neurotic liberal women in our families, no need to create more.

    1. After seeing how dentists are trained, and after having been jerked around by some of them, they don’t rank high with me any more.

    2. Agreed, the blind faith in nurses and doctors who, as a rule, are completely unaccountable and half of the time heartless, and about a third of the time utterly incompetent, is truly a textbook case of Stockholm syndrome.

    3. Agreed. I was just saying to my better half last night (she works in a hospital) that my respect for physicians has plummeted since this WuWho flu BS started. I used to think doctors were smarter than sheep, but the white coats are starting to make more sense.

  10. William F. Buckley Jr. famously quipped, “I would rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the Boston telephone directory than by the 2,000 people on the faculty of Harvard University.” Distrust of our alleged “betters” is nothing new. In my younger days, I thought that science and engineering were probably the most honest professions, being based on the scientific method. Well, the pursuit of grants and notoriety certainly have brought science low. At least in engineering, one has a code of conduct to adhere to and the consequences of being wrong can be financially and reputationally catastrophic.

    1. At least in engineering, one has a code of conduct to adhere to and the consequences of being wrong can be financially and reputationally catastrophic.

      Fat lot of good that did in the case of SNC Lavalin, eh? That was one reason I decided to stop practicing.

      As for engineering professors, most of them are academic money-grubbers with an iron ring. Most wouldn’t know how to prepare a set of drawings or use any hand tools. See also my comment at:

      https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/11/28/trust-in-professions/#comment-1379133

      1. And my Engineering Alma Mater (U of S Saskatoon) has recently announced a “Re-Engineering” of their first year courses. They now take First Aid, CPR and WHMIS. No final exams. “Top Up” courses in the summer so you know you are prepared for the college (isn’t that what high school is for?). Indigenous Cultural Content. 70% pass threshold for basic material, no minimum for advanced material. I remember the part of “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” where the Prof did not provide marks through the year; it turned out that those who were coasting (do the minimum to pass) were upset and tried harder, while the keeners assumed they would flunk and had fun and went balls out. Overall class marks were higher than in the past.

  11. A close relative is a teacher. She was starting her work day at 7:30 AM and working until 8:30 PM, until last week when she was fired. She thinks it is because she made a black student feel uncomfortable because she said she needed to move more quickly because “we are not on Africa time”. Not the smartest thing to say but surely dismissal of a hard- working teacher wasn’t the only option.

    I asked if she knew what being Woke means, or had she heard of critical race theory or cancel culture. “No” to all three.
    I asked her if she ever wore black face. “No”. Apparently that’s not racist, I told her and you can’t get fired for that. I told her to get a black lawyer. A conservative one.

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