32 Replies to “Break Them Up”

  1. Nobody told me the 21st century was going to be one without a history. It looks to be starting out much the same as the 20th century. (More millions of people will be culled by Communists). Maybe, if they taught high school kids HOW to think, not WHAT to think, everyone would be better served by the Socialist education system.

    1. ‘1984’ was an instruction manual, not a warning apparently.

      I imagine Orwell has been removed from every school reading list in the world by this point.

      1. Yes, removed because Orwell (a man) failed to include a … Big Sister … as equally oppressive and soul crushing as Big Brother.

  2. This last week while on Twitter I clicked on a link. And was prompted to install Google Chrome in order for the link to load.
    I couldnt work around keeping my default browser as Firefox on Twitter.
    It probably nothing……

    1. That shouldn’t happen. Any hypertext URL should call your default browser (except for some links that directly call IE or Edge or whatever). Can you post the link?

    2. You are still using the browser that fired Brendan Eich?

      Been using Brave for quite a while now. It’s most useful feature, is I just know to stop going to any sites that don’t load in it.

  3. Break them up? This implies gubermint action, which I deplore on general principle.

    Drive them out of business. Just stop giving them money. When the Google Board is selling pencils on the sidewalk in Mountain View, that will be a good result.

    You can help that along by suggesting to people you do business with that they are not well served by advertising with Google. Ask that they stop. And they will.

    Google is an advertising company. Hit them in the wallet.

    1. I get your point, and mostly agree. However, one is tempted to see these orgs as oppressive tools of tyranny and treated appropriately.

      I don’t think we need to break them up. But, they need to be brought a bit to heel. I don’t know what the best way to do that is, but I don’t think it will work like you suggest. I wish I had the right answer, though.

      1. But, they need to be brought a bit to heel. I don’t know what the best way to do that is, but I don’t think it will work like you suggest.

        There are no palatable solutions. The non-whiny-soi-disant-conservative-b*tches-demanding-government-intervention-when-it’s-their-ox-being-gored solution is to exit this current legal limbo where these organizations are allowed the status of common carriers but also engage in editorial control of the content on their platform. The problem with that is it sets a precedent that any social media site must either allow Nazis and kiddie porn, or else be limited to the number of members that can be adequately vetted by a team of human moderators. Economically and technologically, that’s a couple hundred active posters at most. You end up with the Internet fragmenting back to what it was in the 1990s, a bunch of separate walled gardens that keeps Metcalfe’s Law from working.

    2. But what if these companies have effectively burrowed so deeply into EVERYTHING you do on your computer as to have no effective means to boycott or starve them into poverty? I can EASILY stop buying NIKE trainers. I cannot so easily escape Google (even though I’ve been nowhere NEAR their search platform since 1999). Nor can I escape Fackebook despite never having ever oenend an account. A monopoly, by definition, is so large as to establish an impenetrable barrier to competition. A monopoly has nothing to do with a Free Marketplace. Nothing to do with Freedom of choice. Nothing to do with Freedom FROM Government, as the monopoly simply supplants Government.

        1. TBH … I don’t fully understand all of the nuances … however … “net neutrality” appears to be forced internet welfare for the poor … paid-for by the IP’s … er, paid-for by we the ratepayers.

          Kinda like Obama-phones for the poor … because everyone NEEDS a mobile phone to get a job. So everyone NEEDS unlimited data streaming … to monetize their “art” … their new rap video drop.

          1. Thanks for the honest answer. I guess my biggest issue with this reasoning is that ISPs already can and do charge users differently based upon the amount of data they use, and net neutrality won’t change that.

    3. I think in the US they will be considered as public services/utilities like the old telehone system or hydro utility.

  4. There is precedent for breaking up these, as Kate correctly suggests, threats to a free society. After WWII, the allies broke up the large German and Japanese industrial conglomerates that had been determined to have contributed willfully to their respective country’s war machine and aims. The Krupp arms manufacturer being possibly the most significant. Siemens being another.

    1. Not to mention IG Farben, which was complicit in the nazi death camps (they manufactured Zyclon B poison gas, and operated a slave-labour synthetic rubber plant next door to Auschwitz). IG, before the war, had duped Texaco into divulging the secret to tetraethyl lead (necessary for high-octane aviation gasoline) in exchange for aniline dye technology that Texaco never received. After the war, the IG was broken into its 6 component companies: Bayer, Basf, Agfa, Hoechst, Chemische Fabrik Griesheim-Elektron and Chemische Fabrik vorm. Weiler Ter Meer. Tellingly, no executive of the IG ever served a single day in jail, none was ever removed from their corporate position, and every one of the surviving IG companies (the latter two on the list were merged with Bayer) is bigger today than the entire IG Farben cartel at its peak.

  5. Seriously. STOP.

    Why is your solution always “government will save us”? Handing more power tp government has a 100% failure rate, in all of recorded history. “break them up” leads, eventually and inevitably, to mandatory sterilization of the subnormal family.

    1. Ahh yes, I remember the genocidal wars after they broke up AT&T.
      All that carnage could have been avoided if only people would have accepted that they had to have a model 2500 phone and no other.

  6. The ironic part about this whole situation is that – as many have said over and over – had Donald Trump not been elected President , NONE of this would have come to light.

    Hillary Clinton would not have cared one iota because it would have been, to a significant degree, the Facebook / Google / Twitter cabal that would have allowed her to be successful.

    Given all this and given, in addition, how the entertainment industry and the major media industry were so supportive of Hillary and so derisive of Mr. Trump, I am absolutely amazed that he was elected President.

  7. The GORE factor was to provide legal immunity (Gore collected millions from Goggle) Stripping that immunity will make sure that unethical behavior is penalized…..SUE the Bastards…POOR.

    1. I’m all in favor of suing them. That’s perfectly legit. They collect data on me I don’t want them to have and didn’t grant permission for, suing them to death is a good option.

      Getting Big Brother to beat them up, that usually doesn’t work out well.

  8. I think that this is perhaps one role government can play. Some Government is not evil, it prevents anarchy and can delineate a level playing field or at least the boundary’s. Breaking up these horrible monopolies is a good thing . Our Government can do that for us but I would never advocate that they take over the smaller bits and try to do it themselves. That would be wrong and pointless to trade one megalomaniac entity for another.

    1. Relying on government to break up monopolies seems like a bit of a stretch, since monopolies never emerge in the first place without the willing collusion and support of governments. It’s kind of like relying on a burglar to protect you from pickpockets.

      1. Relying on Government to break up monopolies is a bit of a stretch? It is more like screwing in the support of virginity.

  9. Neither Standard Oil, nor Ma Bell posed a danger to our Democracy as do these Marxist Tech behemoths. Time for Trump to channel his inner Teddy Roosevelt.

  10. Given their political bent, disclosure would be nice but in reality most anyone who has any idea on what is going on knows that Google is run by members of and is now somewhat a part of the institutional left not unlike academia, the entertainment industry, media, big labour, the bureaucracy etc.

    1. It also appears they are in fact a creation of DARPA funding rather than some really smart hipsters who just got it right.

  11. The Google Board of Directors is a second home for lefties, such as Al Gore.

    Use Firefox, Duckduckgo, Bitchute, Gab, etc.

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