The Toronto Star has just published an editorial entitled The West wants out. They try to make the argument that most Westerners are adamantly against the energy policies of the federal Tories. If they’re correct, then the Liberals and/or NDP will win an abundance of new seats in next year’s election.
The question is: Is their analysis correct or absurdly off base?
The people who don’t want jobs(guess) are against just about everything in this country of ours. I click on the star website , and who do I see. Suzuki… Objective reporting… sure pal.
If it’s the Star, the correct answer is: they’re idiots.
Next question.
I think “wet dream” would be an apt phrase to describe the Star’s theory
Seeing as the author of the article is the ED of the Dogwood Initiative, I say the article is BC centric and the rainforest/Great Spirit Bear whiners have found a sympathetic ‘center of the universe’ outlet to carry their message.
I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Hummm…. Exactly who finances this environmental group? I wonder if it’s some mysterious offshore entity or a more home grown mysterious entity. It bears some looking into.
Wankouver is NOT “the West”, so my vote goes to “idiotic, puerile, misleading, transparently brain-dead Leftist propaganda.”
“What would the local newspapers say when leaked documents revealed Harper had sent CSIS and the RCMP to illegally spy on peaceful opponents”
How is ANY intelligence activity illegal? If you don’t have anything to hide why give a shit who is looking, as long as
the rule of law is followed. Leaked documents would be a crime!
The SCOC Chief Justice “Beverley Knot-head” followed the UN mandate by providing natives a form of Allodial title. Allodial title “had” been declared obsolete in all of North America for good reason.
“Re:Peaceful opponents”
The Suzuki Saskatchewan tour in October coincides with the big game Hunting Season… Maybe they are testing the water.
The Suzuki Saskatchewan tour in October coincides with the big game Hunting Season… Maybe they are testing the water.
The “Left Coast” remains an apt description for many in BC and that has always been true and the lefty media, such as the Star, make sure that this is the only voice that is heard but I’m sure there are many in BC who will place the economy and jobs ahead of ideology in the end. A member of my family recently hired a young woman from BC for a nursing position. She came to Sask because she had been unable to find related work in BC. Her boyfriend is going to join her shortly, he’s in construction and can’t find work there either. In Sask he’ll have a job in his field before the end of the week that he arrives. A desire to be financially responsible for ones self is still stong in most people of all ages and that requires a job something that left wing “pixie dust & unicorn horns” crowd can’t provide.
The Star may be right in one way. If PET Jr. tries his father’s tricks on Sask & Alberta again but still expects us to pay for his stupid plans we may want out, out of Canada. There have been separation parties on the prairies before……just because people have come out to see pretty boy doesn’t mean we’d be stupid enough to vote for him.
The objections to pipelines come as a result of an unbroken stream of left-wing rubbish spewed out by foghorns like the CBC. Garbage in, garbage out. The country is sufficiently wealthy for the moment that it can sustain the fictions of pixie-dust power and “social programs” paid for by taxes and royalties on the engines of economic growth such as the oil sands. Kill those engines and a thing called reality will soon slap the left-wing airheads about the ears until even they eventually get it.
Unfortunately, there’s probably going to be a lot of pain before the wake up comes.
Idiotic spin. With a wist of wishful thinking….
I have never seen a The Star newspaper out here in B.C. in my 47 years of living here. What do they know about the West ?
SDA provides more insight into Westerners minds than leftist newspapers do.
Too tired after a long day driving…so here it is in point form.
1. The title to this post is giving a hint of credibility to the article…next time just “Idiot Spin” will do. Thanks…
2. It’s the Toronto Red Star…there is no credibility with them. I don’t even trust the ads they run.
3. It’s typical of the Toronto Red Star to look at Canada through a pair of binoculars from the top of the CN Tower. They know nothing of the “west” and are not in a position to speak of how any Canadian group, province etc. is going to vote.
4. BC, though having it’s fair share of the granola crowd, continuously votes in the majority for conservatives at the federal level. They are still plenty of pro-business Socreds out here!
5. The Toronto Red Star is showing its typical “in-between elections” attempts at influencing opinion rather than reporting news.
6. If the Toronto Red Star is so worried about the environment they should shut their doors and turn of the presses…the paper is a waste of trees!
Another sign the writer is a know-nothing is the implication that he thinks “The Rockies” go from Calgary to Vancouver.
They go from Calgary to Golden. (or Hinton to Tete Jaune)
I refuse to click on that mind warp disguised as a hyperlink. That’s a joke right?
By “most westerners” they must mean the ones that used to live in Toronto that still read that useless paper?
BC gets a bad rep sometimes, and rightfully so, but BC is not a Province infested with left wing radicals as some like to portray it. Which is to say BC has its fair share of lefty wing nuts and enviro nut cases and they get a lot of attention from sympathetic minded media outlets because they are well funded and they are very loud and extremely annoying. There are, however, certain realities that shouldn’t be ignored, like BC being the Province that sent the greatest number of Reform MP’s to Ottawa, and BC consistently voting a majority of Conservative candidates sprinkled with a few odd ball extremists of the left, Liberal wacko Hedy Frye or whatever her name is, the “crosses burning” woman, gotta face like a horse, that one, and of course Larry Davies, I mean Libby. Provincially there are essentially two valid choices and they are both unfortunate, center left Liberals or full commie NDP, personally I’ve never voted for either choice, as they both blow. There is the reality and then there is the lefty media and the very loud incessantly whining perpetually victimized professional complainers, enviro nutcases and race hustlers.. pretty much the same as most Provinces. The Red Star piece is wishful thinking at best, or more likely they are simply pushing a convenient narrative.
In regard to B.C., it is a simple matter for Alberta to object to B.C.’s plans to export LNG in any NEB hearings. B.C. cannot export without NEB approval.
The logic is simple…..B.C. is using their phoney objections to the Gateway Pipeline to give their LNG priority. Different products, but hydrocarbon energy nonetheless. In effect, B.C is using phoney environmental arguments to provide a leg up for their own energy exports.
We need to elect a government that will approach the development of Canada’s oil and gas reserves with the same zeal that John A. Macdonald approached the building of the Trans-Canada Railroad.
As the building of the Trans-Canada Railroad Canada was in its day, so is the building of pipelines, refineries and ports today. The only thing preventing this from happening is a lack of will on the part of all Canadians. It’s time for that to change.
Jim Horne;
Totally agree with your comment. I do believe that Canada has to become a top crude producer and exporter to survive. I do not know what form would be effective to accomplish that. People on the street do not know how much the industry benefits them, particularly out east.
I do believe the CPC is in a dog fight for re-election. I do not know whether they realize the extent of support drift that has occurred over the years out west. While Reform voters supported through conviction now it is more that the CPC is better than the alternative. The CPC MP’s have morphed away from the original Reformers as they move on or retire.
The CPC’s contact with supporters today is based on mostly asking for more money not engaging in education of the country’s reality. CPC supporters often do not engage the nutbars on the left as it does not appear that the CPC has a grassroots plan to do so. In the old Reform days we had riding committees that did that job. I am very disappointed in the CPC’s efforts to date. Not confident in their chances for re-election. As a organizer I expected more from Harper’s ability to run an effective political party.
A powerful majority of British Columbians, including plenty of Tory voters, simply aren’t willing to risk their magnificent coast, local health and existing jobs for the benefit of global energy corporations
A powerful majority of warped out LGBT community, BCU students and profs, Vancouver City council and a whack of stupid Indians who are being directed by their greedy lawyers all lined up to try to put some meaning into their dull, petty little lives. They there are the pristine planet pimps like Suzuki … state funded twit through the debauched CBC. Foreigner Al Gore likes to dump here as well … Even that little fag, Neil Young with his castrato voice leaves his oh-so successful society of California to come up and spew inanities that he cannot possibly understand the meanings of.
The irony is that the people are who are so against all development are those who have great government jobs or who are on the dole .. welfare … or their parents are still supporting them and then those who are professional mud puddles like Andrew Weaver. In short, people who either have a secure income, tenure or those who don’t want to work, but rather have the secure pittance of welfare and petty theft.
Most decent self-reliant, hard working Canadians want all the job opportunity possible so their children won’y have to sit on our hyper beautiful coast and starve with nothing to do.
That’s worse than a potential spill or a bit more CO2 in the air. And it can happen.
The brain-trust of the Central Canadian left is buoyed from the re-election of their Wynne no doubt. Perhaps they now assume the ROC will fall in line with their economic suicide pact as demonstrated by Ontario.
BC has more than its share of eco-loons but the much of the blue-collar left tends to support the resource sector as many have witnessed first hand what is available for income from the service sector once primary industry is driven out. Dan Miller, a brief fill-in BC NDP Premier (1999-2000) with a Pulp Mill background is now going around promoting the resource sector as he saw what happened to his home of Prince Rupert when the Mill went down.
The media – TS in partic is a perfect reverse barometer on all thing conservative – as others have noted; ‘wishful thinking’ of the first order and 3rd degree.
The star column is wishful thinking. I laughed when I read that our indians were especially upset with the government. So what else is new? More risible is the notion that we BCers are upset that we have no voice in the government. As a northern BC resident (ie someone who lives outside of the lower mainland) I am more concerned with the hippies in Vancouver deciding everything for me. Seriously, too many of the folks down there believe the world can survive on tourism and investment analysis. Oh yeah , and lawyers.
Shoot them.
Didn’t have to read the article.
Already know the answer is that its central conclusion is misguided because it ignores one solid fact.
What exactly is it the opposition parties are offering conservative voters to allow the liberals or NDP to gain the governing side of the HoC?
The answer the Star on just about every available opportunity never fails to remind conservatives is that in order to have this come to pass we have to repeat the mistakes of the past and allow a socialist or an elitist from Quebec to dictate the terms of surrender.
A present reminder of this folly is on display in the USA.
The editorial board of the Star still believes Ontario is an economic powerhouse that the ROC can’t live without. Hopefully they will grasp economics about the same time the Star announces another round of layoffs.
Wasn’t it the Star that mentioned Edmonton broke the 50/50 record previously set during the 2013 Grey Cup in Saskatoon?
You know. Somewhere out west.
1) I live in Montana
2) I want to buy a property in Alberta – always have
3) Alberta properties too expensive
4) Solution – elect NDP or Grits. Shut down Fort McMoney. Loonie drops in half.
5) Rate rise and Canadian housing bubble finally pops.
6) Problem solved
Ofaycat, the only “powerful majority” who aren’t “willing to risk” their beautiful scenery are wingnuts like the Dogwood Initiative and our foreign funded Saudi competitors. BCers know the main mystique of our beautiful coastline and scenery is our excellent standard of living. They’re not willing to risk that either for the sake of emotional latter day hippies.
The Vancouver dog doesn’t wag the BC tail as in Toronto and Ontario. What BCers aren’t willing to risk is letting the watermelon left coast free spiriters decide our future prosperity flowing from gas and oil revenues. Shrill worse than ever worst case scenarios trying to negate the reality that pipelines move crude or gas safer than any other transport method with no major shipping incidents anywhere on the BC coast won’t sway voters over to Trudeau or Mulcair’s cynically apocalyptic attempts to save us from our own hard won wealth.
The 2015 election will be about fossil fuel prosperity and freedom versus carbon taxes and s(mothering) government. Because of that Harper will win at least as big a majority as 2011 IMHO. OTOH Obama’s statist debt and “you didn’t build that” envious appropriation won him the day in the US. Then again, Harper, unlike the GOP and Romney, knows how to campaign and clearly articulate his platform and vision.
Don’t forget the media has done a fine job out here, coaching the electorate, about -SCARY- pipelines and -SCARY- bitumen and -EVIL- fossil fuels.
CBC, naturally………
Globull (Shaw, an Alberta company, go figure)
CTV (Bell, an eastern company)
Amongst others, they have all done a splendid job whipping up the hysteria.
If you are a shareholder, let them know that their fearmongering runs counter to good business. The BS coming out of the media outlets is nauseating out here……watching “the news” is akin to self-induced brain damage!