23 Replies to “Shepard Smith: “This government didn’t get my signature.””

  1. So according to Wildes, “the balance is imperilled”. The balance to which he is referring is the degree to which the state violates due process, judicial procedure, and unreasonable invasion of privacy. What he’s talking about is the degree to which breach is tolerated of the 1st, 4th and 5th Amendments to the US Constitution.
    Interesting. I was under the possibly naive impression that the rights stated in those amendments trumped government edicts or administrative convenience. That they can be somehow split or parsed out; that they apply here, but not over there. Earlier on this forum someone offered up the notion that Orwell’s 1984 was a blueprint. Dead wrong. It was a prophecy.

  2. Wildes is a lawyer yet he thinks Snowden committed treason. Under U.S. federal law, treason (and therefore traitors) can only exist if a declared state of war exists; it doesn’t. So that’s strike one. Strike two is believing that his government can decide in secret what articles of the U.S. Constitution to obey. Do we even need a third strike?

  3. We are not GIVING up anything. It’s being taken away from us without our consent or due process of law by a government moving from Democracy to Dictatorship. Led by a narcissist incompetent to run a Hot Dog stand. Forward.

  4. Well Shep, they didn’t get your signature, because fundamentally they don’t really give a tinker’s damn…
    Your “Bill of Rights” is merely an illusion of convenience, propagated to mollify the ‘sheeple’.
    What you have my dear friends is the “Uber-Stasi” who will denote the type of toilet tissue you use.
    And for all the protestations of the “Obama-Nation(tm)” that Benghazi is a ‘phony scandal’; perhaps that stuttering clown would like to pronounce the demise of their ambassador, aide and former Navy Seals as ‘phony deaths’. I’m sure the families will be amused by this towering demonstration of ‘jack-assery’.
    These clowns would earn some respect if only they would at least appear to be trying…well correct that, they are ‘very trying’.
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  5. Obumbles, Harry greed, and Nancy pisslosy,
    passed an affordable health care law no one read.
    The Supremest court upheld the law as a tax, I bet they didn’t read it either.
    Now Obumbles tells us he is delaying/dictating/parsing part of that law,
    passed by congress and courts.
    He now knows that the small business mandate/tax will cause millions of job losers,
    full time union workers will become 29 hours per week part time non-union workers.
    ‘But we will stick it to you after the 2015 congressional elections.’
    Pres. Nixon told us he was not a crook.
    This son of bitch is..

  6. That they can be somehow split or parsed out; that they apply here, but not over there.
    cgh,

    My comment above was supposed to be a reply to yours,
    but I forgot to hit the reply button..

  7. peterj-
    Led by a narcissist incompetent to run a Hot Dog stand. Forward.

    Your permission to put that comment on my refrigerator door.
    laughing over my hot chocolate,
    Southern Boy cold,
    65 degrees,
    this global warming is freezing my ass..

  8. President Obama may or may not be “incompetent to run a hot dog stand” but he has been able to assemble a team of people capable of running rings around his opposition, pushing “executive privilege” beyond all known peace-time limits, and suborning justice on a scale not seen since the days of Jim Crow in the South. Meanwhile, we form our firing squad into a circle to take down other conservatives who may disagree with us about tactical manoeuvres.
    It gives us comfort to ridicule Mr Obama as a clown and a buffoon, but if he really is those things, what does that make us?

  9. The ONLY way you will get the attention of the government is if 100 million or so Americans decided to withhold the payment of all funds to the government. No taxes coming in might send a message.

  10. “Professor”. That’s the problem.
    It would be worrisome if a meathead like that was teaching kindergarten – but university!

  11. They will ‘seize you’? What does one think they are doing. that is why I said 100 million or so Americans. About 1/3 of the population were in favour of independence back in 1776. The education system has created a herd of sleek cattle being led to the slaughter.

  12. “I am an immigration lawyer, I bring people into this country…”
    Then you are a part of the problem, traitor.

  13. “…The education system has created a herd of sleek cattle being led to the slaughter…”
    Make that “a herd of sleek supply-management cattle…”

  14. The constitution of the US is one of the most noble documents created by human mind on how to establish a proper relationship between those that were voted to govern and those that are governed.
    The assumption was that those that govern are of higher principle.
    There is always a periphery around words that the lowest profession, the lawyers, will screw, spin, misrepresent and whole lot of other low life fracking garbage, for their own purposes (to win). The outcome, for a lawyer is wholly and totally irrelevant, will sell their mother, children and the dog to win a case.
    So what we have here is a noble construct on how to run decent government and two rooms full and a house of those lawyers (honor to the exceptions) that screw, misrepresent, obfuscate, omit and other such garbage to subjugate the plebeians to their will.
    What Snowden has done of course is illegal. Think however if it still was a secret, it would continue without a whimper on and on.
    This does not mean that it will be stopped, for it never will, “never” is the operative word in this case and is one hundred percent applicable. There is a number of representatives of people in congress that you can add up with the fingers of one hand that would be willing to stop it.
    Unfortunately the population will not stop it. They can, they are just not going to put an effort to stop it.
    Look at how ordinary people called the tea party, are damned called stupid, called all kinds of derogatory names, because it is they that make an effort.
    Then you have the occupant of the White House. Do you think that the Kenyan half of him has any history what so ever of the notion of democracy, rule of law, peoples will?
    You want this to be stopped by this character? Are you kidding me?

  15. Clearly it is evident that this ‘team’ was assembled before Obama was drafted. In fact, the metaphor works very very well. Obama is essentially a quarter b(l)ack who doesn’t call his own plays. It all comes in from the sidelines. The press are the cheerleaders who recently have taken off their cloths. The voters are the referees but their not really watching the game.
    Meh…. perhaps others would like to fill in the rest, I have my ideas.

  16. Snowden was not trying to help America’s enemies, he was trying to help Americans understand what their disgusting leaders are doing to them. He is a hero. It has cost him his life as it is for Bradley the other leaker.
    I am am with Shep on this … I prefer freedom over security.
    LIVE FREE OR DIE isn’t just a logo on a license plate. It is a rule for free men to follow or die as slaves.

  17. I am wondering if the Republicans are in disarray taking on this system for the same reason that Petraeus was taken out (how did his private e-mails appear after he disagreed with the White House?). How much dirt has been collected on anyone who opposes Obama? Anything from an overdue payment or surfing porn sites on the Internet up to actual misbehaviour could be used to stifle opposing voices. We live in dangerous times.

  18. Snowden was not trying to help America’s enemies…
    So, why is he accepting their protection? Not much mystery why Russia gave him protection. All that information on the laptops he’s carrying.

  19. That Wildes would be irate because an American is seeking asylum is such an un-American attitude. The Soviets thought like that because theirs was a society based on appearances only. They wanted to appear free and fair, but they were not. The host is right: if the NSA hadn’t been ignoring the Constitution, Snowden wouldn’t be seeking asylum abroad.
    Also, this insistence that Snowden did something illegal…In my opinion pointing out illegal activity of the government shouldn’t be illegal, and it most definitely is not wrong. In the USSR, talking bad about the Communist party was illegal. Did that put the Soviet government in the right? Legality shouldn’t trump ethics.
    All of this surveillance makes us, on the whole, less safe, not more. Maybe (and only maybe) we are safer from terrorists) but we are definitely at much more risk from corrupt individuals inside the US. Just imagine J Edgar Hoover with all this technology. But I guess now a man like him would be stopped by all the “safeguards” in our system. (Poppycock aka B— S—.)

  20. In my widest nightmares I never thought to live to see the US become in effect a dictatorship.
    As one poster said. Nothing will be done. Americas spirit has been broken, trampled on, bought off.

  21. Bravo Shep! You said what thousands of other Patriots are thinking.
    As you have said above, sharia @ 4:00, your argument has merit, IMO.

  22. Would you trust the U.S. Justice Department to be fair and just in your regard if you were in Snowdens shoes?
    Do you think the actions of the current regime at the CIA, FBI, IRS, State, Justice departments are reliable, constitutional, forthcoming in their reliance on oversight by Congress?
    Do you trust your government to do the right thing?
    I don’t. I wouldn’t if I were Snowden.

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