“Come away from that frying pan!”, said the fire…
This Paths to Prosperity white paper – the twelfth in a series – proposes bold ideas to unlock the potential of our agriculture industry and put farming back at the forefront of innovation and job creation. Some of these ideas include […]
* Creating a two per cent Ontario biodiesel mandate to reduce greenhouse gases, divert waste products like restaurant cooking oil from our landfills and create jobs in rural Ontario
h/t Jamie
Guess they will never be fans of Matt Ridley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S-nsU_DaIZE
Since when does used cooking oil end up in landfills? For the most part it is already recycled, as noted by the mini-dumpsters outside restaurants. All oils have industrial value. If nothing else, real soap is made with oil, often the inedible type.
As scar said, don’t they already recycle cooking oil?
Hell, even if they were throwing it out for some reason, there are enough WVO users or home-biodiesel-makers that they should be going around to restaurants offering to buy their oil.
I know that happens around here, at least…
(It’s like – giant shock – they can’t even imagine anything happening outside of a mandated State action, with coercive enforcement.
And as for jobs, well… if you can only create jobs by using the State’s power to say “do this thing you don’t think is worthwhile in itself”, you might as well just pay people to dig and fill in holes, because it’s about as productive.)
I doubt that much restaurant cooking oil ends up in landfill sites as it is much sought after by renderers and recyclers such as Rothsay. I hope Hudak has thought this one through.
Since when was biodiesel ever a good idea, period? You’re nitpicking if you’re worrying about things like “facts” and “accuracy”. There’s pork to be shoveled!
The PCs both federally (Kent) and provincially (Alberta) are losing their grip and going over to the dark side…or green side.
All this recycling and bio fuels (bio fools) stuff is getting old. As if saving a few tonnes of french fry grease will save us all from … what?
Remember in the 80s it was the Three Rs: Reduce, reuse and recycle. People were promoting making silly garden ornaments and windmills (such irony) with chopped up bleach bottles? THAT is what this bio fuels and french fry grease “eco flavour of the day” reminds me of. Just a bunch of eco hype with no real environmental benefits. And bio fuels are almost certainly a detriment to the environment when all factors considered.
Just eco horseshit that makes weenies feel like they’ve accomplished something as they crawl back into their fancy homes that are two times larger than necessary.
Meanwhile as FOIA says, Those millions and billions already struggling with malnutrition, sickness, violence, illiteracy, etc. don’t have that luxury. The price of “climate protection” with its cumulative and collateral effects is bound to destroy and debilitate in great numbers, for decades and generations.
I swear, Tim Hudak is the most enormous tool in the universe. This next election is his to lose, and he will leave no stone unturned until he finds a way to lose it.
Remember friends. Tim Hudak. Biggest. Tool. Ever.
By the way. If they do this IDIOTIC thing, and their greenie fuel frigs up my truck, I and every other diesel owner in the province will sue them until their friggin’ hair bleeds.
Metaphorically speaking of course. You can stand down the SWAT team, boys.
Sent a letter to the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario some time ago.
Explained in the letter that as a federal Conservative I would prefer to give my support to the provincial Conservatives as well. Further, I stated that one of the stumbling blocks was my inability to find out where the provincial party stood on Agenda 21. To date I have received no reply.
More ‘Progressive’ than ‘Conservative’ I think.
It appears that the voters of Ontario have 3 choices.
The left of center Progressive Conservatives
The far left Liberals
The ‘common sense have definitely left’ NDP
Arghhh
If Hudak really wanted to win the election his campaign slogan should be to simply roll back every liberal policy in the last decade. Admit all green programs are a scam and swear to tear down every windmill to be replaced by something logical. As Phantom said, the next election will be his to lose. He’s not too bright, he’s not gay and he’s Caucasian. He only has one required asset to win in Ontario. The not too bright part.
Still more pro then con, eh?
I’ve got this theory that Tiger Tim’s advisors are lefty moles.
Poor little putz he is. He never figured it out that every time a Conservative acts like a commie, the voters will go with the real commies.
I mean this is the guy who has been calling out Dildo McDinky on his economy-killing green energy crap – so now he wants to replace it… with a PC version?
Who ties this guys shoes for him?
Looks like Ontario is ripe for None_Of_The_Above.
When the entire choice is Zombie 1-3, what can you do?Stay Home?
Maybe its time for Ontarions to stand up and diss them all.
Change your name to N.O.T.A, ZZZ#1 to number of seats, 1 per riding.
Coordinate enough voters signatures to meet nomination rules.
Then do nothing, except encourage people to vote.
Low cost and graphic way to dislodge these parasites who befoul our elected offices.
If the press insists on interrogating NOTA Nominees just explain its a protest and if NOTA is voters choice you will push for lifetime bans from political office, on those who lose to this choice.
Then, as is standard practice in Canada, do whatever you want when elected.
This is a low cost electoral reform that might just work.
The concept alone terrifies the career leeches.
Just one step up from the Pro-Apathy Party.
Here’s my letter sent off to Hudak and the PC Party after reading that disaster of a whitepaper:
Dear Sirs,
I had great hopes when Mr. Hudak had started his pre-election campaigning by talking about the sale of crown corporations, reducing corporate welfare and eliminating red tape.
Thanks to your most recent white paper entitled “Respect for Rural Ontario”, my hopes have again been crushed by the Ontario PCs and I am reminded why I did not vote for Larry Scott (Oakville) in the 2011 Ontario Election.
The idiocy and hypocrisy on display in Respect for Rural Ontario is stellar.
Paths 1 and 2 deal with the reduction of red tape – a laudable goal – yet Path 11 proposes yet more regulatory red tape by suggesting that we burn food in place of oil in our cars.
Path 12 talks about reducing subsidies for windmills – an excellent idea – yet Paths 3, 5, 6, 15 talks about preferential treatment and subsidies for PC Party cronies.
If you were serious about forging a path to prosperity, you would eliminate all subsidies to industries across the board and you would eliminate the majority of the regulations on Ontario’s books today. Most of those regulations have been created by unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats, and not democratic institutions.
Unfortunately, I do not believe that you will take any of this to heart and that we will again be forced to withhold our vote from Larry Scott in Oakville in the upcoming election.
Thank you,
Not that I have any hope of them listening to a word that I say.
Holy crap! It looks like Timmy has been drinking the kool-ade from the centre of the urinal-verse again. Phantom is right about his to lose but now that I am retired here, the stupidity of the provincial cons is really going to hurt. Heck, we already have Give away Rae working his way into mining negotiations between those traditional mining first nations folk and companies that can actually bring prosperity to Northern Ontario (as in jobs, not hand outs). Anyone else notice that the only thing the “hunter/gatherers” have been gathering lately is money for nothing?
By the way, doesn’t diesel come from refining petroleum as in the product of decayed vegetation as like biological vegetation? So why isn’t it all called bio-diesel? I mean besides the $26/gal price the American government pays for it? Latest bunker price in Houston is around $3.96/gal so you do the math on what the government is wasting by trying to fuel the US Navy with the Bio crap. Speaking of crap, Captcha is acting like it.
Ernie Eves: When rural folks said they needed property rights legislation to prevent land acquisitions caused by the Provincial Policy Statement on Land Use, he promised a new child tax credit to protect poor children from the stigma of welfare.
John Tory: When rural folks said they really needed property rights protections to stop the land acquisitions caused by the Clean Water Act, he said that Ontario needed a few more fully-funded school boards.
Tim Hudak: When rural folks say that property rights are desperately needed to stop the theft of private lands because of the Endangered Species Act, he promises mandatory french-fry grease.
I don’t know what’s in shorter supply in PC HQ – ears, brains, or true conservatives.
Tim Hudak. Biggest. Tool. Ever.
Ditto that. At least Tory was…a nice guy and didn’t look like an alien grinch. Hudak is a born loser. Of course, he’s no less a statist than Harper. The only reason one gets heck and the other praise are the difference in ‘victories’.
The OPC is a statist machine. Harris was a freak. The OPC must be destroyed.
Don’t be on my side, moby. John Tory was as much a retard as Hudak ever knew how to be. Just not quite as big a tool.
Harris was the only premier in a very long time to even hold back the growth of government, much less cut it. An -actual- Libertarian would know that, and respect it. Moby.
I disgree that Hudak is no less a statist that Harper.
Harper would never impose a bio-diesel mandate. Harper would never impose any mandate.
Hudak is not much of a conservative. I guess in Ontario there are not many conservatives left.
He thinks he’s a viable alternative to Wynne?
Of all the ways to help rural Ontario, this is what Hudak and his policy wanks have developed in their white paper? Deaf to calls to eliminate all programs for the green energy farce of wind turbines and solar panels and their physical blight on the landscape, deaf to the cries of rural residents who have been hammering away for years about the need for property rights, deaf to the voices who tell him that hs party will never get the “green” vote regardless of how many rural acres he’s willing to “protect” as sensitive environmental land, deaf to the calls to rescind the warrantless entry powers of the OSPCA , deaf to the increasing intrusion of government regulations on landowners – that’s our man, Tim Hudak.
I have come to the conclusion that the Toronto centric Conservatives of this province believe they will have the rural votes forever, regardless of policy. What other conclusion can be reached with this latest insult to the intelligence of Ontario’s rural population? I can only surmise that Hudak does not listen to the real conservatives in his party – they do exist (albeit in small numbers) and for the most part, they represent rural ridings. These members of the Conservative party could develop a better plan for rural (and all of) Ontario to survive and thrive. Step aside Tim. It’s time a real conservative lead the Conservative Party of Ontario.
Tim Hudak – saving rural Ontario, one french fry at a time.
Oh ya. The the Ontario PCs are special folks. After Randy Hillier stormed the Queen’s Park Urban Assembly, I tried to do my part to renovate the party by going to the AGMs, joining the local riding association, drafting papers and presentations on property rights for the Agricultural PAC, yadda yadda. I was stunned by the abject stupidity, arrogance and malfeasance that suffused the entire lot. It is rotten to the core. Irreparable. Burn it down lads.
First of all the twats gave you the mandatory Tier IV deisel engine requirments.
Now they expect you to run them on fuel that will void the warranty and destroy the engines.
Liberals are total effin idiots.
Harper would never impose any mandate.
EXCEPT HE DID for ethanol. Wibe away the cobwebs from your eyes.
When I said Harris was a freak, I meant he was atypical of the OPC machine in a good way. Harris was good, but overrated. He didn’t change Ontario’s course over the long haul.
I’m beginning to thing that the NOTA approach is the best one around at the moment. That is, until, we find a medical treatment to cure moonbats. It would be nice to have an anti-moonbat vaccine given in elementary school with periodic revaccinations.
doowleb, you have it right about the three choices the Ontario voters have.
Hopefully all of you Ontario residents send a letter of protest to your local candidate. Other than that Loki has a good point.
OMMAG, the Tier IV engines are crap, as we have had one our Volvo graders go through three engines already and the warranty is soon up. We do not trust the engine on the other grader, so they got dumped, as hopefully the John Deere grader engines hold up better.
All of the above comments are right, in that all of these political morons have bought into too much of this green crap and won’t rest until the economy is brought to its knees.
“…I was stunned by the abject stupidity, arrogance and malfeasance that suffused the entire lot…”
Brave bunch though………..right?
You would be entirely correct about Harris — and if he had just done what he was elected (twice) to do by more than 1.9 million Ontarians (which, if I’m not mistaken, is a great many more than voted for Mr. McGuinty, at any point), we would not be in the predicament we are today.
And while (blah, blah, blah) I would be the first to admit that I have not read much of Mr. Hudak’s White Paper offerings, and while I am generally persuaded by the criticisms of him above (including yours), I do feel that he has a kernel of a really good idea around privatization of SOEs — and he’ll need a majority to get it done, what with the sorry cast of characters he has opposing him. So, despite this one particular thingee noted above, which is complete nonsense (including having my own MPP’s name attached to it, which is totally embarrassing), I will trudge up the street to St. James Anglican Church to vote for him.
We are long — long — past the point in Ontario where we needed to monetize the value of state-owned assets, and if voting for Tim Hudak will get that done, fine.
And if it leads to smaller government, plus a beginning to re-establishing financial soundness to the public-sector pension plans and to a spurt of productivity growth, however short-lived, that would be well worth the experiment, IMO.
“…I will trudge up the street to St. James Anglican Church to vote for him….”
But not I…or any other polling spot for that matter.
The enviro-parasites have been gobbling up our lands for years, and the PCs, by their absolute silence on the issue of compensating landowners for these land thefts, are as complicit as the Liberals and the NDP.
I have come to the conclusion that it is preferable in every respect to hit bottom as soon as possible, rather than the ‘death by a thousand liberty cuts’ that faux conservatives like Hudak would have us endure.
Whodat hasn’t changed since the last go around. Before the last election I was solicited by the PCs more frequently than a hooker during shore leave. I told them I would make a donation if Whodat would tell me where he stood on the gun registry.
Needless to say, I got no response and made no donation.
This election, I will refuse my ballot.
Jamie McM….”I don’t know what’s in shorter supply in PC HQ – ears, brains, or true conservatives”
all of the above me thinks, my rep is a LL (liberal lite)
old Tim WhoDat speaks, and causes a comedy thread:-)))
Phantom, buddy:
Every time I look at this guy, I see “deer in the headlights”. I wish
he’d resign.
Is andybody sure that WhoDat and Mr.Bean were not seperated at birth. Same dopey look,and both do relatively good comedy.
Biofeuls like Biodeisel or ethanol are viable, as long as it’s done in the private sector.
read this stuff:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Tim Hudak? Think?!? Your cat or dog or goldfish is more capable of thought.
That’s the tragedy. Contemporary conservative politicians, be they RINOS or Conservatives other than Stephen Harper, are STUPID!
The leftists are evil; the conservatives are stupid. Yee Gods, stop the world, I want to get off!
Yes, Mike Harris was always making war on Ontario teachers – he’d wave his fists at them, they’d wave their fists at him, all very very wery mean and nasty.
But teachers do what they are told to do by the Dept of Education, and all Mike Harris had to do was walk a block or so and fire the entire education bureaucracy, every last leftist thug of them.
Which he never did, and that’s why I’ve never had much use for him. Way better than the subsequent premiers and contenders, for sure, who seem to be in a contest to be worse than Bob Rae.
You know, it’s not that Tiger Tim is stupid – he isn’t.
And it’s not that he doesn’t have some good ideas – he does.
It’s just that he’s not a leader.
A real leader controls the press – not the other way round.
A real leader would take an issue like property rights and know how to package it and promote it so that everybody (dyed-in-the wool Liberals included) would applaud it as something that was long overdue – and nobody in the Opposition or the Toronto Press would be able to seriously speak against it.
And a real leader would instinctively know what resonates with a population – instead of relying on whatever little boys and girls with poli-sci degrees tell him.
No, I don’t think the Ontario PCs will ever ditch their water-wings and get into the deep end.
I’ve met him, Kevin. Shook his hand, watched him talk.
Biggest. Tool. Ever.