38 Replies to “This Is Awkward”

  1. I was waiting for you to post this Kate 🙂
    This is indeed a big meaty bone. In my lifetime I’ve certainly never seen a party in such free fall as the BC Liberals. This may well be worse than the infamous 1993 Federal election in which the Cons, under Campbell, won just 2 seats.
    In the past I have not been that optimistic about the BC Conservative Party getting any seats, but I have changed my mind. The dissatisfaction with the Liberals is so astronomically high at this point that people may indeed vote in droves for the BC Cons in protest.
    Everyone I talk to says they need a place to park their vote, and I think they should park it with the Cons. I would rather hang myself than vote for the NDP, and the Liberals have become a joke. They long ago abandoned their core group of supporters, and now the chickens are coming home to roost in a big way. They also should have never put Clark in charge – she is so out of her depth it is laughable.
    Even better, the BC Con candidate in my area is actually very good – so I will be able to sleep quite peacefully on election night with my vote, knowing I did the best I could.
    FYI Norm Letnick who is the Minister of Agriculture held a town hall here last week in Kelowna to discuss the budget, and 12, yes that’s right *twelve* people showed up. The party is doomed….

  2. And this surprises people…..why, exactly?
    Politicians of all stripes do this because…..wait for it…..IT IS EFFECTIVE! People seem to enjoy living in the fantasy that we all actually live in the rhetoric that is espoused daily by the ideological among us. The truth is, regardless of what you believe, reality persists.
    People tend to seek what they identify with, that is why we end up with segregated communities of minorities. It isn’t that they were forced together, they were drawn together by the similarities they share and as the demographic expanded, others moved away…..to seek areas where they too would feel comfortable and accepted.
    And it goes beyond ethnics. Economics, politics, religion….without something to unite under a common and inclusive ideal, we just continue to devolve into ever smaller, bickering factions that bray on about what others do all the while hiding those exact same actions within our own camps.
    Pathetic that this really even rates as a topic of discussion anymore.

  3. Alex G. Tsakumis blogs on the BC political scene with fervor.
    He pegged Christy Clark a long time ago, and always makes for a delicious, and, comprehensive read. B.C. voters, not in the NDP camp, really do have their work cut out for the next election.

  4. Clark is an incompetent idiot. What concerns me is that there is most likely going to be a communist government in BC after May. I’ve never voted for the BC lieberal party instead voting for either Libertarian or BC Marijuana party candidates in provincial elections. If the BC Marijuana party of 2002 was still around, I suspect they’d get a greater fraction of the vote than the BC lieberals.
    There is one good lieberal MLA in my area who I suspect will get in again – because of his personal qualities, not party affiliation, but one only hopes that enough people are going to vote for the BC Conservative party in May. I disagree with a lot of their policies but it would be physically impossible for them to be worse than the BC lieberals or the BC communist party.

  5. No surprise at all. Every time Christy Clark has spoken since she gained power she might just have well have bluntly said she will do anything right up to murderous purges to get reelected. As mealy mouthed as she sounded, that was the message heard.
    Pity we BC voters. Its not possible for a thinking voter to side with either of the two main parties. Adrian Dix of the horrendous opposition NDP got tossed out 13 years ago for backdating a memo in a criminal investigation of Premier Glen Clark (where Glen gave a buddy a lucrative Casino licence). Driven out of office for forgery, strangely he not only avoided charges but I understand he also got some separation dough.
    Only 2 options. Vote the fledgling Conservative Party…….or don’t vote.
    Could politics get any more corrupt or stupid than they are here?

  6. Odd, but I was at a meeting with Letnick a couple of months ago,and when I asked about the future of the hated carbon tax, he said it would be “gone” after the budget was presented. I think he was double crossed by the government.
    Letnick’s staffer who was present said Christy would soundly beat Dix in the election campaign debates,”she’s fiesty”!
    Letnick’s a decent guy,but the Party is a disaster under Christy Clark. They are going down to a big time defeat, we can only hope some voters have the sense to vote BC Conservative,in spite of the bungling by John Cummins.
    I shudder at the thought of another NDP government,but it IS inevitable.
    I keep hearing Merle Haggard’s old tune,”Are the good times really over for good”. Probably for a long time to come.

  7. Caught a TeeVee interview with her the other day after the story broke.
    I’m paraphrasing here, but the gist of her comments were that her government isn’t involved in politics and that BC Liberal MLAs don’t involve themselves in government.
    Akin to claiming that polar bears don’t eat seals.

  8. They didn’t get rid of the carbon tax because they desperately need the money due to the bloated size of BC’s government. But at minimum they could have renamed the damn thing and just called it a gas tax. That would at least be *honest*, and it would be a step toward getting rid of this dreadful tax altogether.
    The fact that a “carbon tax” still exists under Clark’s leadership shows you just how utterly incompetent and completely out of touch the woman is.
    Worse, and this is one the many things that has thoroughly turned me off the BC Liberals, is schools/hospitals/etc. throughout BC have to pay huge sums out of their budgets for carbon offsets. It is so staggering stupid and corrupt I can hardly believe it.
    Clark needs to be sent packing in the most unambiguous manner possible…perhaps Harper will give her an ambassadorship like her predecessor.
    There is a small chance she will resign today, but highly unlikely because she is far too stupid and stubborn to realize that she is utterly incapable of leading the party to anything other than a massive defeat.

  9. It’s just another groundhog day in BC. History has repeated itself and we are back to the waning days of the Socreds under the “former” Liberal, Vanderzalm. As for the “incident”, there isn’t a major political party in Canada that hasn’t discussed in some form, ethnic voting strategies. In this case a disgruntled insider leaked the BC Liberal’s to an NDP-friendly media.
    There aren’t enough actual conservatives in BC to warrant their own party and the one that masquerades as such is a populist mish-mash that might just as well be part of the BC Liberals. The Libertarians are the only principled party to vote for unless you consider the fascist watermelon theocracy of the NDP, “principled”. The Libertarians also outnumber the principled conservatives in BC but are still non-electable.
    I happen to believe that people get the governments that they (collectively) deserve and in BC, that will happen again with a vengeance. The BC Liberals are the worst party in BC except for their only electable alternative.

  10. Christy Clark … the former daytime TV personality …. turns out to be a political failure.
    Maybe BC is getting smarter?
    Or not……………

  11. BTW … the courting of immigrant and ethnic communities is something that every political part at every level wants to do or does. With some measure of success the NDP and the LIberals have been milking that cow for 50 years.
    In Quebec the separatistes use blatant coercion.
    Federal Conservatives have an open strategy to bring these groups into the fold. Or as I see it rescue them from the big mistake of getting suckered by the left.
    Only a dumbass like Clark could possibly make that a failed policy.

  12. I am a northern BC’er and as such I find it hard to get too worked up about it. Of course I also farm so I am even more inured to the vagaries of things beyond my control. For a long time now BC has swung wildly from one party to the next. The NDP seems certain to take the reins this time. Mining exploration will hit the skids, government money will find myriad new pathways into the pockets of the crafty and the residents up here will notice they have just as much pull with the government as they did before: none.
    I suspect our dam will go through, eventually and to keep it company there will be a bunch of provincially subsidized wind farms, situated right in the middle of oil country, or like the last project, right beside WAC Bennet dam. I won’t vote for the conservatives until they start to sound like a sane alternative, but this is their chance to replace the liberals who replaced the Socreds. Even if it is as the opposition.

  13. Wow!! A Liberal caught telling the truth about their plans. They’re doomed.

  14. “BTW … the courting of immigrant and ethnic communities is something that every political part at every level wants to do or does.”
    Yes, and wouldn’t it be nice to get a political leader who does not think like this. There must surely be enough common ground between the wants and needs of different ethnic groups in Canada (they all want jobs, they all want to be free to pursue a happy existence, they wall want their kids to get a good education, etc.) that this shouldn’t be necessary.
    But alas our politicians are always looking for the dumbest and simplest ways to win an election. I see son-of-Trudeau is already playing the ethnic card wherever he goes. Disgusting.

  15. it’s interesting that nowhere within the document is a proposal to woo ethnic voters by providing good government and sound fiscal responsibility.

  16. What did anyone expect? Anybody with eyes could see that the only way for the BC Liberals to avoid forcible retirement is to do what the Alberta PCs had to do to keep out the Wildrose—pay or promise the imams whatever they asked to march the mujahideen to the polls to vote against Wildrose, and stick the Christians with the bill later.
    On the federal level, the Liberals used this trick for forty years, importing savages they could trust to vote for them, and tax loyal Canadians to pay to keep them in style. If immigration had been restricted these last fifty years to the British Protestant stock who feared the Lord and not a hard day’s work, and built everything in Canada worth preserving, the Dominion might still be free today.

  17. “it’s interesting that nowhere within the document is a proposal to woo ethnic voters by providing good government and sound fiscal responsibility. ”
    Well said!

  18. That’s about the most concise analysis of Canadian Politics the I’ve seen in a long while. Good on you.

  19. Looks like at least four years of the BC Fed screwing over the province via their political sock puppets. The BC NDP.
    The good news is they will inherit a bare treasury so the damage the can do will limited.
    Meanwhile, it is a beautiful sunny day in Vancouver, I am sitting on my deck with a nice glass of Pinot and life is wonderful.

  20. …in Vancouver, I am sitting on my deck with a nice glass of Pinot and life is wonderful… nothing but the soothing clucks of my neighbour’s chickens.

  21. Christy tried to out-politic the Indos, but they’re masters of playing the game while she is just an amateur. She lost, no surprise to anyone. Trouble is, she’s taking the rest of us down with her. Cue the re-entry of Moe Sihota.

  22. morontario could send Dolt McGimpy out you guys in BC (does BC stand for big crisis???):-)))

  23. OMG! I believe it is called babbitry – imagine sucking-up, not just to the middle-class but the middle classless too, and to the immigrant community! Like, this has never happened in B.C. before? It happened the minute they gave the Chinese and the Natives and the women, a vote. Go figure!

  24. Clark’s trouble is that she is transparently disingenuous. I suffered through her radio show for years thanks to a co-worker who insisted on listening and she is without doubt a full-on lefty ecotard x 10. She has been trying desperately to appear conservative, but like everything she does it comes off as only skin deep and politically expedient. She just does not connect with anyone as trustworthy or even authentic. Not to mention her bimbo routine turns women off in droves. I knew a woman who went to highschool with her and she said they called her Christine rotten crotch. It fits.

  25. TrueNorthist thanks for that insight.
    Who knows, maybe we will get lucky and she will resign today. It is not simply the latest mess that is a problem. Her history of complete incompetence goes back a long way.

  26. Har Har BC
    When choosing between a dead dog, a hyena or a leach;
    Don’t you wish “None of the Above” was on the ticket?
    This would give the voter choice, if NOTA, is the majority choice in a riding, all politicians running in that riding get banned from running for office for at least 10 years.
    New election fresh meat.
    Of course the only way this will ever happen is if a person in each riding, changes their name to NOTA and raises enough signatures for nomination.
    But would be cheapest campaign ever.
    Get name on ballot, do nothing, say nothing win in a majority of ridings.
    This is a constructive way to terrify career politicians.
    The other is selection as for jury duty.
    Tough, your turn in office, no pension and no immunity.

  27. I am surprised that anyone is surprised. In multicultural Canada, Trudeau-style multiculturalism is a divide-and-conquer strategy, a gem for those wanting to win elections. No one is a Canadian, just a resident of Canada. X candidate loves whichever culture resides in his riding. He’ll shake the hands, eat the food, do their dances. The electorate will vote accordingly. If the electorate thought themselves Canadian, X candidate would look like a fool. He certainly couldn’t sell taxing them up to their eyebrows, hence playing them off another culture while seeming sympathetic to theirs.

  28. When the most positive thing one can say about Christie Clark is “she has big tits”, you know the province is in deep trouble. I just pity those residents of central BC than can’t relocate and find work immediately like I can to escape the coming commie government.

  29. Loki
    If you recall, the last time the marxists had a go round, they practiced Animal Farm to a tee. Even within their own ranks, some unions were much preferred, others were ignored. Beer and popcorn.
    I am no friend of the NDP, but this rancid, corrupt group, led by that incorrigible Honey Booboo must be sent packing. They are doing as much damage as we fear from the Dippers.
    I am also a NOTA voter, at least until the Conservatives get realistic, or a new coalition style party gets their act together.

  30. Great idea John Robertson, I know many BCers who would love to vote NAOTA. Make it happen B.C.

  31. Credit to Alex G Tsakumis in ferreting out what may be the final blow* to Christy Clark. He was just on Newswire so I guess the vid will be available shortly.
    * At this point there are few people left for Christy Clark to blow anyway.

  32. The last political party on the right that had a actual organization were the Socreds. VanderZalm began the destruction during his tenure. Social Credit actually had a philosophy. Clark has absolutely nothing and people see that. The BC Conservatives have little to nothing to offer either.
    The Dippers as sad as they are do their homework. They meet with voters and spew their line of BS and over time many start to believe it.
    All Conservatives should realize that the hard work of constituency org doesn’t happen without member committment. I suspect the federal CPC are on the same path as the BC Liberals.

  33. I’ll consider the NOTA option. Unfortunately Marc Emery is in a US jail so there’s no-one to fund a resurgent BC Marijuana Party. The 2002 BC Marijuana Party was the closest we’ve ever gotten to a true Libertarian party in Canada. One of the reasons it did so well was because Marc just supplied the funding and the party leader was very pro-gun, anti-C68 as well as being for decriminalizing drugs. The party got in excess of 50,000 votes in that election, most in the interior of BC.
    What’s needed in BC is an anti-moonbat coalition and I suspect that many of the union workers in the interior of BC would be likely attracted to that as the moonbats are determined to end their mining and other “ecologically destructive” jobs. The best thing to happen to this province would be to draw a dividing line a bit inland from the coast (thus taking Surry, Abbotsford and Chiliwack along with the interior of the province) and join the bulk of the province to Alberta as this section of the province has very little in common with the coastal moonbats. Vancouver island, Vancouver island and the few hippy infested islands between could form the new province of Moonbatia. Its economy would be based on its residents selling hand-made beadwork and pottery to each other as well as tourists coming to see what hippies look like in natural settings. It’s primary export would be marijuana. Those residents of what would now be greater Alberta could look forward to not having the periodic bouts of insanity that grip the province of BC when the moonbats elect commies as their government.
    The thought of moving back to Alberta is not a pleasant one, but if the NDP gets back in again, the people who voted for them will deserve the level of medical care they will get as I’m not the only doctor planning on leaving my very under-doctored area in this scenario. Likely public hospitals will become even more inefficient as unions get paid more to do less. OTOH, this might result in BC being the place where medicare finally self-destructs due to marxist idiocy, but I’ll be watching it from the sidelines and enjoying the decline. If one likes doing rural medicine, then there are essentially unlimited work opportunities throughout the country.

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