97 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: If You Don’t Believe In Global Warming”

  1. I do believe that I saw that for the first time in 40 yrs all canadians will behaving a white christmas. Including maybe the ones living in Las Vegas 🙂

  2. What is not stated in the China View article, referenced by Cal2, is that all scientific skepticism must be checked at the door before any of those officials assume their offices.Socialism is at its strongest when its adherents abandon all skepticism of the party’s mantra.

  3. OK, so millions of us in North America have known for a while now that even if MMGW is not an outright fraud, it is at the very least unsubstantiated, completely politicized and an embarassing demonstration of improper scientific method.
    A few threads back, I asked if anyone could name a prominent North American federal politician who actively opposes MMGW as a fraud. One poster was able to supply me with a link to an Eastern European leader knee-deep in scandal and communism. But I still appreciated the effort and the link.
    My point being, I am sick to death of politicians of every stripe lacking the integrity to put the good of their countrymen ahead of that of their party. With the press and MMGW pundits still machinegunning propaganda at us daily, I am frustrated that there is still nobody in the HOC who loudly represents a now common POV on this.
    What is a movement without a leader?

  4. Well, here in Ottawa, it’s like parliament never stopped sitting…we are only slightly below average yearly temperatures. And the “snowfall warning”? It is to snicker. Quite pleasant, really. The steaks are thawing on the counter, and I dug out the bbq.
    Of course, I grew up in Winnipeg. 🙂
    Darn it, Kate. You’ve made me all nostalgic for real weather!

  5. Global warming is a construction of deceit and useful idiots.
    The most alarming part of it for me is the sheer persistence of the global warming myth in the face of so much critical opposition by people whose reputations and credentials would not be ignored anyplace else.
    The useful idiots could probably be angrily forgiven because of the sheer fatuity of their easily led brains.
    Although there is a factor of malevolence as the useful idiots mindlessly use global warming as a way to trade social status for money and patronage.
    However, the really spooky group are the authors of the lies and their refusal to acknowledge critical opionion even when it comes from unimpeachable sources.
    Thought control. Manipulation of other human beings for their own selfish motives. Confidence schemes pressed on whole population groups. Unethical co-opting of politicians. Politicians who are so enamoured or fearful of the Deceit Group that they would rather self-destruct and lose their office than go against them.
    We first ran into this in the US when overwhelming force pressured our Republican politicians to take care of the border. We finally had to literally weaken the Republican Party by throwing out of office a majority that had literally cost the lifetimes of some Republicans to achieve this majority.
    The demonic influence was so acute that office holders would rather cut their own throat than acknowledge a tidal wave of public dissent.
    Now these Deceit Groups are operating on a global scale. They are playing the music, and far too many are dancing to their tune.
    Will we have the will and the insight and the influence to overturn them? That, my friends, is the question we will be answering in the future.

  6. It’s -37 right now in Fort St. John, BC.
    But I see they predict it will go up to -34 by tomorrow morning.
    If this rate of warming continues, based on my computer model, it will be +30 by January 11, 2009.
    Global Warming: case closed.

  7. The global warming is coming down sideways here in Sunny Southern Ontario, my part of it anyway. Friday it came down sideways from the East, today sideways from the West. Going to be some mighty confused snowdrifts out there tomorrow.
    Good thing I hot-rodded my snowblower last year. She throws 40 feet now. ~:D White Christmas, woohoo!
    Btw, for all you gear heads and Tim Taylor types, Princess Auto has a 15hp gas engine on sale right now. 1″ shaft Honda clone with electric start. Bolt right up to your blower with only a bit of welding and making stuff. Go on, you know you wannnnnna!

  9. OK, already; it is colder than a witch’s earlobe in Saskatchewan. It snowed Vegas. It is definitely cold in some places. I accept that. Notwithstanding the cold spell I think I saw a piece including a NASA satellite shot indicating that the artic ice cap is melting. Is the arctic ice cap doing anything unusual or is the earth going through menopause? Please advise.

  10. Eyeswideshut…of course the Arctic icecap is melting now.Where do you think all this cold weather down here is coming from?(We moved all the warm weather up there?)

  12. Thank you Justthinkin and SetUfree for your quick and humorous retorts.
    Is the arctic icecap melting or not? If it is I would guess activity on the sun was causing it, but I am getting confliciting informaiton and I really want to know if the f’n icecap is really melting or if it just Gorepaganda.

  13. Hoping Big Al is getting a blast of puckering up frigid air in good ole Tennessee.
    Big Al knows it’s Global Warming/climate change because some “experts” told him so. He can’t debate it, can’t explain it, he’s just a bloated windbag raking in the dough on a big farce.

  14. Intuitively obvious – colder than normal is called weather, warmer than normal is climate change.

  15. Eyes:
    My guess is that’s the ice cap gets larger, then shrinks, then gets larger again.
    My guess is that this natural phenomenon has been happening for the entire life of the earth.
    My guess is that pine beetles in northwest Alberta could be wiped out by this cold spell.

  16. There’s always a silver lining.
    Heard that way too many winters have gone by in
    BC that were too warm and that’s why the pine beetle is having its way.
    I’m willing to take one for the team. Keep the cold coming….

  18. Sorry – make that; PB damage LESS !! where it is warmer. Americans let forest fires do the rejuvenating.

  19. Eyes….sorry about that.Yes The ice cap is shrinking,and growing.It does that every year when we(the Earth)moves into spring and summer,and then back into autumn and winter.It is a natural cycle.Do you know that I have a piece of petrified tree from Ellsmere Island? Check it out.That place was once covered in trees.(Ellsmere Island,Eureka Sound).It’s natural.And us puny humans have dick all to do with it,and f&*k all to fix it.

  20. I think the anti-global alarming crowd ought to change the course of this ship and Hegelian Dialectic the crap out of Leftists – give them a taste of their own medicine, as it were.
    Start agreeing with Environemental fascists, but put a twist on it.
    The Kyoto objectives might ACTUALLY be in reach if we ended no-fault divorce and kiboshed the feminist movement, thereby making the family stronger.
    Divorced people = 2 homes instead of one, which means two furnaces, two fridges, two cars and so on. If we actively cut back on divorce, we will become far more environmentally friendly. Also, with less homes, there will be less demand for trees which means protecting the rainforests etc. Yaddah yaddah yaddah…
    Also, it is in the interests of fighting global warming that only one parent works while the other stays at home. This means less workplaces chugging out polution each day, and also less workplace furnaces, fridges etc. An added benefit of one parent staying home is that parent will have some extra time to grow a vegetable garden or tend to chickens and such, thus cutting down on the fossil fuels it takes to transport foodstuffs, and also the environmentally damaging large grocery stores will be reduced.
    Children of two parent families where one parent stays home will also produce better balanced, more emotionally stable children – as even Stats-Canada clearly shows. This will mean less need for the vast army of social workers, and less money needed to heat their fancy offices. Since over 75% of people in prison come from broken homes, ending no-fault divorce will mean LESS prisons, less police, less courts and so on – including the extra resources the average joe burns just in order to pay taxes to support these justice programs.
    It goes on and on.
    Anyone SERIOUS about global warming while preaching about how DIRE the future is going to be if drastic measures are not taken, should surely be able to see that ending no-fault divorce and strengthening the family will have a MASSIVE impact on reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
    If 50% of marriages end in divorce… lets just guess that with the ending of no-fault, and actively encouraging families to work it out and stay married, we ought to be able to cut down on our housing/heating/fuel/social needs etc., by an easy 25% in a rather short amount of time.
    Of course, this goes against EVERYTHING the left believes in, and they would never agree to it as destruction of the family is very high on the Marxist agenda.
    But, then again, if it is that serious… drastic measures are needed, right? I’m sure Dr. Fruitfly will agree and actively campaign to end No-Fault Divorce… for the good of the planet.
    And, if they are not interested in seriously debating the issue, then I certainly don’t have to feel guilty for dismissing the absurdity of carbon taxes and other economically destructive ideas that are FAR more difficult to achieve than simply ending no-fault divorce.

  22. Canadian Observer
    You asked about a North American politician fighting global warming hysteria – Senator James Inhofe from Oklahoma has done excellent work as a member of the Environment and Public Works Committee. Just recently he produced a list of ..
    More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims – Scientists Continue to Debunk “Consensus” in 2008
    http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2674e64f-802a-23ad-490b-bd9faf4dcdb7
    As far as I know there is no federal or provincial politician in Canada similarly putting his neck on the line.

  26. Is there any chance that Fat Albert Gore would stick his tongue to metal in Sask. tonight? Please say it could happen folks….

  27. Devin has a point,set you free.It’s on the top of his head.And yeah,we know about averages.And the longer,and further back you take them,the more meaning it MIGHT have.

  28. CTV ‘rats interview the GovCanWeather ‘rats/report back.
    No mention of da AGW/CC; nor, da GC.
    But, taking the long-term view, there is hOpe:
    “”It may be in 40 years, the first one,” he said.””
    …-
    “Will Canada see its first white Christmas since ’71?
    The first day of winter brought wind-chill warnings, snow and a bevy of storms to cities across Canada on Sunday, potentially laying the groundwork for the first cross-country white Christmas in nearly four decades.
    Environment Canada senior climatologist David Phillips told CTV Newsnet that “it looks like a very good chance” it will be a white Christmas for all parts of Canada for the first time since 1971.
    “It’s just sort of the beginning of winter, and it’s a little much to expect when we have so many different climatic types in this country for it to be frozen and snow-covered from right across the huge country,” he told CTV Newsnet on Sunday.
    But with so much snow already on the ground, the veteran weather prognosticator said he thinks that any upcoming balmy Christmas Day temperatures will not be able to melt away the growing snowfall base.
    “It may be in 40 years, the first one,” he said.”
    http://tinyurl.com/a5aoey (ctv)
    (Free Extra feature:
    John Doe with his new green hybrid chevell):
    A man shovels his driveway in Caledon, Ont., on Sunday, Dec. 21, 2008, after a snowstorm hit overnight. (Sumran Bhan / CTV.ca)

  29. Devin,
    Do you mean average like gore’s energy consumption is the equivalent to a dozen “average” households?

  30. Devin, I’m familiar with “average”, as in, “Devin Maxwell’s intelligence falls well below.”

  31. Anyone here familiar with the word average?
    Posted by: Devin Maxwell at 6:14 PM
    =============================================
    uppers, the AVERAGE IQ is well north of your IQ

  33. Its Cold.
    Its Cold in Wetaskiwin tonight.
    -28 now with lows expected of -35, -36.
    You mention Global Warming.
    I’m going to hit you.
    Hit you on the nose.
    As hard as I can.

  35. Average of leftard IQ, which is pretty much like the average Canadian temperature tonight, somewhere around -20C without the windchill. The next environmental activist with a smidgen of intelligence I meet will the the first.

  37. Just to put to rest the myth you folks are trying to propagate that people are shying away from the term “global warming” and instead adopting the more neutral “climate change”, here’s an article from a mere couple of days ago in which “global warming” is used a great deal:
    http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2008-12-19-global-warming-severe-storms_N.htm
    Of course, these guys are only NASA scientists; they’re not celebrated and acknowledged experts in the field like all of you.

  38. January 1904: Two adults and their 5 children, recent immigrants from Oklahoma, sharing a tent on the open Alberta prairie, outside temperature 45 below Fahrenheit were looking forward to Global Warming or else spring!

  40. Real: Is that NASA the same NASA that determined a meteorite found in Antarctica was actually a rock chipped off Mars and deep in that rock was potential alien life forms? You mean that NASA right?
    BTW ever seen a rock fall off Earth? (didn’t think so).
    BTW never trust an agendized scientist who reads the latest rage as a source of funding.

  41. [quote]Climate modelers have long speculated that the frequency and intensity of severe storms may or may not increase with global warming. Aumann said results of the study will help improve their models.[/quote]
    Real,
    Do you read the links you post or are you challenged.
    http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2008-12-19-global-warming-severe-storms_N.htm
    That story is full of weasil words like “may or may not” Those are not the words of settled science and indeed support the opinion that the Climate model was the work of a Jelly Bean J.O.

  42. “And as Canadians don’t we bar-b-que at these temperatures?”
    Well perhaps, but just barely. Propane remains a liquid at -42C so if it gets any colder and you prairie folk want to b-b-q, you may have to heat up your propane tank to get any pressure out of it.
    I just bar-b-qued a nice salmon last night, but then it was only -11C here in Nanaimo.

  44. Sorry, Kate, but I’m afraid I must respond to the troll.
    Real: you’re a freakin’ retard. Look at the very last sentence in the article you quote. The “official” UN organization studying global-warming/climate-change/climate-crisis/climate-fill-in-the-blank is not called the IPGW. It’s called the IPCC.
    Now, real, use that pea-brained-sized leftard brain of yours, and figure out what the CC stands for in that acronym.
    Now, sod off. Idiot.

  45. “And as Canadians don’t we bar-b-que at these temperatures?”
    Yeppers, have done that and even stood outside with the prerequisite beverage in the amber bottle too. Even used a torch to heat up propane lines and built a fire under my truck to warm up the oil.
    In Moose Jaw there is nothing quite like standing in front of a Tutor while the student and instructor pilots go through checklists before starting the last aircraft in the line that is parked by Belle Plaine. Aircraft fly pretty good in cold dense air… people not no much.
    What was that island in the Caribbean that wanted to become part of Canada? It’s sounding pretty good to me now.

  46. How would you like a vacation on ALPHA 177 WITH A COMFY NIGHT TIME TEMPETURE ON 120 BELOW 0 OR PREPLANUS WITH A TEMPETURE ON MINUS 135 BOTH ARE NICE VACATION SPOTS ECEPT FOR PREPLANUS WITH BLEW UP

  47. Dearest Colin from Mission B.C.
    There was an acronym in the story that didn’t refer to Global Warming? My, my! You’ve demolished my argument!
    Here’s two more stories from the last week that make extensive use of the term Global Warming – refuting the myth that people are backin away from the term
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28249708/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21663493/
    BTW, not sure why it is you’re not able to make you point without the trash-talking insults. My guess is that you think they make you sound authoritative and tough, but they really make you sound…well, childish.

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