(Bumped for the convenience of Charles Adler listeners. Newer posts below.)
Did you ever see the tape?
(mp3 – 1.4 meg)
Originated at CKLF-FM 94.7 Brandon, MB – the city with the only NDP MLA between Winnipeg and Regina … for now.
Editorial comment… It has occurred to me that some of my dear readers of the more sensitive Liberal persuasion might be, by now, disturbed at what could be perceived as a “piling on” over this latest public humiliation of Stephane Dion.
Of course, such an accusation would be absolutely true. The only advice I can offer you is to simply brace yourself and continue to take it until we become bored and move on to fresher sport.
Stiff upper lip, and all that.
(I’m tempted to invoke that famous Victorian encouragement to “lay back and think of the Queen”, but that would be cruel under the circumstances.)
“lay back and think of the Queen”???
funny we havent heard from Scooter Brison on this.
Of course not, Scoot is the Queen.
So, Bob Rae is outraged that the House of Parliament adjourned 5 DAYS earlier than it was supposed to????????
Oh – the horror!
This guy is the puppet of PowerCorp, his brother John Rae is VP. He is the “nephew” of Maurice Strong of Oil for Food and China scandals and when Rae was Premier he even appointed Strong to be head of Ontario Power.
The backroom elites are going through withdrawls – it has been nearly three years since they could get at the trough and suck off Canadian taxpayers for money, influence, inside information….
Yes, Bob Rae. Harper IS scary – but not to normal Canadians. He is only SCARY to those who wish to use taxpayers as personal pawns.
Rae’s moral indignations are so over the top that I am convinced he was the architect of this whole thing.
Anybody else with me there?
I had Rae pegged about 10 seconds after I heard about the coalition. He was putting the bug in the boy’s ears during the last minority, but Steffie need to get his @ss royally kicked before he would play. As devious as Jack is, he couldn’t read the constitution and understand it. With a foot in both camps and loyalty to none, Rae would have been the perfect facilitator, and all three of Les Trois Chavez’ egos are big enough that all Rae had to do was quietly goad them into it. You’ll notice how fast Rae disappeared when the heat came up. He only surfaced again this morning after prorogue. He was keeping his distance until the poo stopped flinging…
I live among this voting base, and am in constant daily, informal contact. Friends and neighbors. I tell you, the Liberals are going off to the Gulag of Quebec, where they can scratch out an existence with the Bloc. In my wildest dreams, I could not imagine such an intense and sudden meltdown.
Absolutely, my very same experience. I am quite shocked at the reaction of my most Liberal of neighbours. One even sent me the link to the petition against the coalition and she well knows my political leanings. Stick a fork in it, the coalition is done. Done like the turkey in ‘Christmas Vacation’.
I frankly cannot believe that the ‘big heads’ in the Liberal Party allowed this to happen. They are either on crack or their budgetary woes are far worse than even we know.
Bill D. Cat, that is hilarious! Thanks for sharing!
“Welcome to our new banana republic – land of the political wing-nuts.”
The political wingnuts label, I agree with, but its too damn cold out there for bananas. This is a crabapple republic. Or maybe a frozen turnip republic.
Oz wrote: “The country has effective opposition.
It’s called the MSM.”
Only when the conservatives hold power.
Yes, Piperpaul, that was the context of my assertion.
Hello Folks: I need help with a poll in Pravda today here: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/
Thanks.
To clarify the misrepresentation and outright lies that are being advanced by Ed Broadbent and others, in regard to letter sent to the Governor General in 2004 by Harper is necessary. The letter signed by the opposition parties was presented to the GG, asking her to consult with the opposition parties, if the Martin government was defeated in the house. No representation in the letter was ever made, about any coalition to be considered, a division of Cabinet ministers or a Prime Minister in waiting proposed. And least of all, was there any representation to the GG, that Harper wanted to enter some kind of an alliance of any description with the Bloc. Simply put, the letter was only asking the GG, if she would consult with the opposition in case of Martin’s defeat – that is a rather transparent statement of fact I submit, and Ed Broadbent should be able to grasp that. May the misrepresentation and lies end now, and maybe an apology be extended to the people offended – is Ed Broadbent man enough to do the right thing.
Did anybody else notice that Toyota opened up a Prius manufacturing plant in Woodstock, Ontario yesterday?
Employment up 1,200.
What was that noise from the coalition about the auto industry being in trouble?
The only ones in trouble are those saddled with non-competitive union contracts.
My family owns two Toyotas and two Acuras. I reward the Canadian branch of Honda for being innovative and even exporting the brand into the US.
Holy effing shinola:
“December 5, 2008
View / Download complete poll in PDF
Canadians Call for New Election; Harper Would Win Big Majority, Sweep Seat-Rich Ontario and Overtake Liberals in Quebec
A Canadian Business/COMPAS Poll
Canadians Call for an Election
Below are highlights from a new Canada-wide, COMPAS Research poll on the recent turmoil in the House of Commons. Permission is granted to publish or broadcast results provided COMPAS Inc. is appropriately cited.
For comments or inquiries, please contact COMPAS President Conrad Winn at (416) 598-0310 or on his direct cell at (416) 460-5844.
By a more than 2:1 margin, Canadians call for another election if the choice faced by the Governor-General were between inviting Stephane Dion to form a government and hold a fresh general election weeks after the most recent one. That is the key finding from a national representative poll completed December 4, 2008.
If an election were held today, Stephen Harper would win a large majority based on nation-wide support of 51% compared to 20% for the Liberals, 10% for the NDP, 6% for the Greens, and 8% for the Bloc. Harper would sweep seat-rich Ontario with 53% of the vote compared to 24% for the Liberals and 10% for the NDP in that province and would surpass Dion in Quebec with 32% of the vote compared to 19% for the Liberals and 35% for the Bloc.
Key factors in this lightening speed transformation of public opinion:
* 66% of Canadians oppose the Bloc Quebecois having a say in who forms the government;
* 48% have confidence in Stephen Harper as Prime Minister in the current economic climate compared to 14% for Michael Ignatieff in second place, 11% for NDP leader Jack Layton, 8% for Stephane Dion, 4% for Bob Rae, and 3% for Gilles Duceppe;
* 58% believe that the Coalition’s real or main motivation was a power grab while 28% perceive the Opposition as honestly believing that Harper is a poor manager of the economy;
* 61% believe that the Liberals, following their drop in support in the October election, should not be trying to form a government. ”
I think I have figured out the Liberal’s plan – NEP version 3.
And here’s how they are implementing it:
Step 1. Make a coalition with the Bloc.
Step 2. Dig up Pierre Trudeau, and wrap him in copper wire.
Step 3. Replace Trudeau’s headstone with a giant magnet.
Step 4. Generate sufficient free energy for all of Canada from the rapid spinning motion.
From the G&M article about Dion ordering an “inquiry” about the video:
“He added: “Many people told me I was great on radio.””
Some jokes write themselves.
I believe we as conservatives have to actively start sticking up for Dion. He cannot be allowed to be pushed out – he is the Liberal leader and should be for all time. Petition anyone?
Christina Spencer of Sun Media has to keep herself shielded in utopia somehow, so she reports on this beauty of a poll:
Leger Marketing says that 78% of Liberal voters favour the coalition.
I guess knowing that should make us all run up the white flag.
“Leger Marketing says that 78% of Liberal voters favour the coalition.”
Ok…so 78% of 26%?
I guess the coalitionistas will say just about anything. I just hope they stay alive long enough to force an election.
Shaken said: “The NDP never had much downside in this whole sordid affair. The only vote pool they could poach from was occupied by the Liberals, so for the NDP, this is a win, no matter what happens.”
I beg to disagree. Before Layton’s ill-conceived foray into subsidiary status with the Dion Liberals, I would have agreed with you. However, Layton has managed to create a situation where people indeed change their vote from NDP to Conservative.
That’s my gut feeling here in BC, and seems to be validated with yesterday’s results from recent pollsters. Both the NDP and Liberals dropped in support, with CPC support increasing by the sum of their drops (CPC up 6%, LPC down 2%, NDP down 4%). A lot of people, at least here, at very upset at Jack Layton for going into this cabal. They now see him as an old-style backroom sleazy politician, when they didn’t before.
NDP should have differentiated themselves from Liberals, saying they were just CPC lite and he was the true alternative to Harper. Instead he got in bed with Dion and Duceppe. He compounded his stupid error he made last election of campaigning against Harper rather than he and Dion, waiting far too late to do so, and giving Dion a free ride in the debates.
So, normally I would agree with your position, Shaken. But Jack Layton, and his monumentally bad judgement, has come along and changed the political terrain.
Dion is done, and possible so is Layton. Harper, though tarnished, has gained support, and Duceppe, as usual, gets to have it both ways.
Heard on CTV an hour or so ago that Dion will resign as early as next week.
He actually resigned today, but it’ll take a week to make the tape.
Clair Voyant: Leger asked the question “Do you want an election or a coalition?”. Those were the only two choices. As most Liberals were smart enough to understand that they would be destroyed in an election, the only realistic option would be a coalition.
The blame for the recent fiasco may be laid directly at former PM Paul Martin’s feet.
In PMPM’s minority government you will recall, Jack Layton literally blackmailed Martin into adopting an NDP-style budget because Mr. Dithers couldn’t govern, his Finance Minister couldn’t handle his position, and Jack had them both bent over a barrel.
Jack was so energized by his coup in coopting a sitting Prime Minister that he even today believes he can do the same to PMSH.
Problem is, he can’t. Not only is our Prime Minister ahead of socialist Jack intellectually, but ethically and morally as well. Jack’s venom towards PMSH is evident in each TV appearance (and the arrogant lick-spittle of a socialist is always available… one would think Broadbent has managed to clone the vapid little twerp).
So let’s have some compassion for poor Dion. He was dragged into this by Layton. It’s his last chance to avoid being referenced in history books by an asterisk classing him a worse failure than Turner or Campbell or Clark. He grabbed for the brass ring tantalizingly offered by Layton, and wound up falling into the muck.
Duceppe is holding all the cards here, and one must wonder what Layton promised him, in light of the NDP’s pie-in-the-sky promises for “the working men & women in Canada.”
Poor Steffi – last week he was tied with Edward Blake as the only Liberal leader to never become Prime Minister. Now he is the only Liberal leader to never become Prime Minister twice!
I wonder if we can buy commemorative plates.
At 68 yearsof age and a small business owner (manufacturing)dealing with all of Canada for thirty years of this time I have observed many events regarding the relationship of Quebec with Canada. The enthusiam of a charisma of Trudeau becoming Canada’s JFK for the Northern Baby Boomers; through Meech Lake destroyed by Frank McKenna; which allowed Clyde Wells to try and finagle a better deal; and ultimately for Filmon to weasel out of his commitment. Thereby setting up the Bloc Quebecois. Trying my best with the fundamentally flawed effort but recognizing it was still better than nothing; “Charlottetown Accord” which Joe Clark put together. The 1995 referendum which people from Ontario responded to with a rally in Montreal, when requested, Mike Harris and his son in the crowd, not on the stage. We from Ontario were not allowed to have a role, “Chretien would look after it” and almost lost the country. Through all this; plus difficult markets, terrible exchange rates; (which prevented the purchase of advanced production equipment); incredibily high tariff rates to support Quebec employment; I can go on and on. Through all this I took an active role to avoid Quebec Separation. However after this incredible situation with the Liberal “mettre en vente”. The Stuation has now changed for me; “MY CANADA DOES NOT INCLUDE A QUEBEC WHICH SENDS A MAJORITY OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES TO OUR MUTUAL NATIONAL PARLIAMENT WHO ARE SEPARISTS. I used to care about Atlantic Canada being affected with a physical separation if the obvious preference of Quebec was achieved. This is no longer possible with the support of Premier Williams in Newfoundland & Labrador and with a preference of Maritimers for the Separtist Coalition. This is not a Rant my friends; it is a statement of support for any younger and healthier person wishing to establish Ontario’s Eastern border rather than it’s Western Border as the demaraction line of Canada. I now recognize the people living East of the Ontario border are unwilling to understand the frustration of a long time Ontario resident who is yet to hear “what does Ontario think or want. Cheers;
Dion got himself into a beaty contest where nobody won.
That should be “beauty”
We are already in a constitutional crisis, and none of the “EXPERTS” have even figured it out yet.
If Team Treason is allowed to execute their hidden coup and take power, they will set a precedent that will prevent Canadians from ever again electing a minority government. In any election that does not produce a clear majority, the opposition parties will be able to coalesce into a “majority” coalition and usurp power from the legitimately chosen party.
Canada will be perpetually ruled by the LOSERS.
This is a fatal flaw in our political system that must be addressed. This is what the current debate should be centered on, not the totally dishonest attempts by our MSM to blame Stephen Harper for eveything that’s wrong while they work overtime trying to build credibility for the Team Treason “coalition”.
Is it just mass incompetence? Or is it sedition?
It’s time for a total and complete flush of the political “chattering class” in this country – they are as much to blame for this mess as little Jack Lenin.
Mike Sr.:
Thank you for finally speaking up.
Patience has its limits and 40 years is a long time to wait to unshackle the chains of Trudeupia.
You have held your tongues for too long, trying not to offend the spoiled brat of Confederation.
To me, you are an honourary Western Canadian, the biggest complement I can think of giving you.
Keep up the fight, my friend. There are 49 more seats to win in Ontario for those who value individual freedom. We need all the help we can to stand up against the marxist horde.
BTW. Alberta has never had an NDP government and we are much better of for it.
Learn from the mistakes of the past and let’s get on with building a better Canada, one that makes this country better for every one of its citizens, including those who are clamouring to escape their prisons in Quebec and the Maritimes.
Watching Dion and the CBC is like watching Beaker sing Feelings. Meeeee Me. lalalalalalala.
The Muppet Show – Beaker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt8Q7Fsa_Vs&feature=related
The NDP, Jack Layton and Ed Broadbent are a disgrace–not to mention my MP who happens to be a Dipper (hey, I live in Toronto) who never answered, let alone acknowledged, my e-mail of last week in which I said a definite NO to the coalition.
Did anyone catch the despicable ditty Broadbent sang, emerging from an elevator after a meeting, one supposes, with the coalition of dumb-dumbs last week? With with a leering smile on his face, he sang, “Happy Days are here again.”
I could barely believe it. I guess he figured he, Bobo Rae, Jack Laydown, Gilles Duceppe(tion), and Cretin had cooked Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s goose.
I don’t think Broadbent’s having goose for dinner tonight. Maybe humble pie.
Moron.
For comments or inquiries, please contact COMPAS President Conrad Winn at (416) 598-0310 or on his direct cell at (416) 460-5844.
Hey I just called and talked to a very friendly voice at the other end @ compas and told her I agreed 100% with the findings of their polling wrt the Coupscam coalition. She was very surprised and taken back by my call, and very grateful.
I told her someone posted their number on a blog from some backwater, SK town, that’s under a boil water order, that nobody reads so she shouldn’t get too many calls but mine.
Call her.
Make them talk about the internet. This is also our chance to flood the market with the blogs tingy ma jiggers and watchamacallits, Forcing them to talk about us is the only way we are going to get them to shift away from the pro-coalition mantra. I watched the CTV newsnet coverage during & since the Harper speech and they were the first to flip. Duffy and Fife deserve props for sensing the tide (a rising tide floats all boats) and getting onboard, especially Fifie, after incurring the deserved wrath of CPC supporters with the knuckle dragging remark. Apparently calling them out works. Keep doing it.
I’ll never forget the early morning email I got (and still have it saved somewhere) from Ezra Levant as publisher of the Western Standard. I was one of 45,000 subscribers who was getting an advance copy of the LPC 2006 platform the night before they were going to present it. This was during ADSCAM. My first thought was they (politicians of all stripe) will never be able to get away with the stuff they have gotten away with in the past. Change was coming.
After the tension of the last few days I needed a good laugh and this thread certainly did it for me. Thanks Kate.
Thank you “set you free” I consider Western Canadian an Honour as well.
Seems to me that Layton would have been better off supporting Harper in doing away with the party funding by the taxpayer.
The NDP are second only to the Tories when it comes to fundraising and would have benefitted big time from the decimation of the Liberals and Greens, and even the Bloc.
I see Rae has stepped to the forefront .
no recent words from Backdoor Jack?
Dion must want to kick him in the cohones. they will be skidding Borat before Xmas and Mrs Dion will have to be hauling the presents back to montreal and facing 600k of personal debt on a backbench salary.
Iggie this minute, on MDL, says that Prime Minister Stephen Harper is “trying to divide the Liberal Party.”
Huh? Come again, dingbat????? You’ve got to be kidding.
I really can’t stand this guy. He’s a smarmy, smug, ivory-tower, out-of-touch, leftosphere sycophant.
Why don’t you go back “home” to Hahvahd? And stop blaming our fine Prime Minister for a crisis of your despicable party’s own making.
Most Canadians can see through your party’s thuggery and dishonesty. And please don’t lecture us about “Canadian values.” What would you, of all people, know about that? You chose not to live in Canada for almost 30 years.
Posted by: batb at December 5, 2008 5:16 PM
[ Trudeau said his father often worked with the founders of Quebec’s independence drive in the hope of tackling common problems.
He referred specifically to the patron saint of the Parti Quebecois, with whom the prime minister frequently clashed in a Quebec referendum and constitutional battles.
“(My father) sat down and negotiated many times with Rene Levesque on issues,” Trudeau told CBC.] 610 NewsTalk
http://www.610cktb.com/news/14/838834
Every time Justin Trudeau opens his mouth he simply confirms what a light-weight idiot he is.
Without the Trudeau moniker (and silver spoon) he’d probably be just an unremarkable, second-rate teacher destined to total obscurity.
Dion reminds me of the sorry sap in the old Charles Atlas comic book ads who constantly got sand kicked in his face, except Dion never learns his lesson to bulk up. I say kick him while he’s down until he goes crying home.
This collapse of the coalition may be the best thing that has ever happened for both Steffi and his successor.I would not fancy my chances for a long life with commie Jack sniffing around my throne. The first prudent act would be to hire a food-taster.
This is not a Rant my friends; it is a statement of support for any younger and healthier person wishing to establish Ontario’s Eastern border rather than it’s Western Border as the demaraction line of Canada. I now recognize the people living East of the Ontario border are unwilling to understand the frustration of a long time Ontario resident who is yet to hear “what does Ontario think or want. Cheers;
Posted by: Mike Sr. at December 5, 2008 4:28 PM
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sadly Mike, I’m starting to feel the same way
when I used to travell a lot to quebec in the 80T’s I like to pretend I was from california, that way I got better treatment for those fools, on the last day at any location I would reviel that I was from ontario, the change in treatment was….well funny if it weren’t so sad
now I say boot them, even those I have some french in my heritage
Mike Sr. has a point. Canada without Quebec should stop at the Eastern Ontario border.
Ontario has a long history of Conservative government. Albeit, sometimes of the red Tory variety. ‘Protestant’ Toronto used to be included in this. However, as Toronto grew, due to the Montreal exodus, it attracted the leftist miscreants and the socialist immigrants.
There’s more benefit in ejecting Quebec, on terms and conditions beneficial to our pocket books, than keeping it. One of the benefits is crushing the leftists, their institutions and ideology for good.
Toronto would soon smarten up.
“So let’s have some compassion for poor Dion.”
Not a chance. That prick should have retired gracefully, attempting to repair whatever was left of his reputation.
He chose not to.
Let him be remembered as the biggest imbecile in Canadian politics ever.
And a traitor. Benedick Dion.
Kate, I don’t watch TV and haven’t seen the video.
The plot thickens.
Listen to this:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081205/national/parliament_crisis_video
The Canadian Press
[begin quote]
Stephane Dion’s grainy, amateur video address to the nation this week was the result of a series of miscues, from a broken camera to rushed, last-minute editing, insiders say.
The session was taped by one of Dion’s closest aides, Mick Gzowski, son of late CBC icon Peter Gzowski. His wife is the Liberal leader’s English-language trainer.
Gzowski is in charge of broadcast communications for the Liberal research bureau and recorded the address with a digital camera.
Insiders say an auto-focus button on the camera was broken, stuck in the locked position. As a result, the focus was on a bookcase behind Dion rather than on the Liberal leader himself, leaving his face slightly fuzzy.
The last sentence of the printed version of his address was omitted from the final recorded version, possibly for its ambiguity.
[end quote]
The CBC and the Liberals are a seamless garment. How ironic that the great Liberal booster is connected through the Gzowski thread to the imminent demise of Dion.
More hubris.
” His wife is the Liberal leader’s English-language trainer.” And that explains the audio difficulties.
with deyawn’s track record, that broken camera must be everywhere
If I was one of Stephane’s handlers and learned that the son of the woman who teaches him English was doing the tape,I think that maybe that would set off a red flag or two,or twenty. These idiots want to run the country?
I haven’t seen the video. Is it available on this inter-webby thing?
Kate, how did you get Preston Manning to sing that?
wallyj: The woman who is Dion’s English-language trainer is Mike Gzowski’s WIFE. Mike Gzowski is CBC icon Peter Gzowski’s son … Enough nepotism for everyone?
(Vicious) circles within (vicious) circles. Nepotism reigns at the CBC and in the ranks of the Librano$ and there’s hardly any difference between the two.
The video’s on another thread (below this one), RW, the one entitled “Harper’s Address to Canada.” Dion looks like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh, totally bedraggled and clueless.
To his credit, Dion has to be the first French citizen since the Middle Ages to go down with a fight.