The healing begins!
Your sickening unAmerican traitorous, racist, money-grubbing, torturing, hateful ideology got struck a death blow and you and your fellow jackal-blowhards are left writhing on the floor, gasping for breath as the final death tremors subside and your bodies stiffen into rigour mortis.
We 
you too!
i just can’t wait until the Bog O puts the squeeze on all the Peace at any price crowd in Europe for thousands of troops for the war he said he will wage in Afghanistan and the invasion of Pakistan he said he would launch. Taliban Jack is gonna hate the Big O when he pressures Harper for soldiers.
And any guess how much longer the gay marriage crowd in torrana will bow & scrape before him when the realize he is against gay marriage ?
A very target rich political environment this Obama presidency, very target rich.
He who promises everything to everyone will eventually screw everybody.
is it just me or did Real lose his fake arab/muslim typing persona.
It will be painful, but this election is good news. The only true cure for socialism is to actually get it; the US is about to get a big fat dose of cure for what ails them. The only problem, as with Bob Rae, is that Obama likely will not remain in office for enough terms to really twist the knife and cause the pain that is needed for socialism to be rejected forever (or at least for a few generations of the people who actually experienced it).
What America really needs, to drive the message home, is for Obama to be a 4 term president. Not Constitutional you say? When has a Marxist, anywhere in the world, voluntarily left office?
And I, for one, welcome our new negro overlord.
You would think that they would be in a better mood now that they have won. But maybe they enjoy the hate. Is that it bob?
Want to know how this Yank feels this AM? Imagine if you woke up and the NDP had won and Jack Layton was to be your new PM. There’s no gilding the lily here-Obama winning is a catastrophe. I’d even -gagging here- prefer Hillary.
Well for me, Obama is just an empty suit. There’s just no “there” there.
I’m guessing that a lot of people with overly-optimistic expectations are going to be very disappointed in the next four years.
However, we survived four years of Jimmy Carter in the White House…I’m sure we’ll survive four years of Obama there as well…
I’m actually okay with how everything turned out. Here’s why:
1) The electoral college victory was huge… but the popular vote was VERY close. The dems haven’t “crushed” anything.
2) The Bush card is now out of the deck. They played it very successfully this round – good for them… but it’s gone now.
3) The dems control both houses and the presidency… so when things go pear-shaped over the next 4 years they are the only ones that will be blamed. A FUD campaign like this one wouldn’t be effective since the dems are the scary wingnuts in control.
4) Democrats typically campaign left and govern center.
5) It’s unlikely Obama will be able to deliver on most of his promises so once the campaign high wears down I see his support fragmenting when the far left nutbars don’t think he’s being “progressive” fast enough (sound familiar?).
6) The republicans need time to purge the old guard from the party (especially the likes of Cheney) and refocus on what their core values are. If McCain had won there wouldn’t have been the real soul-searching the party needs. They’ve now got 4 years to refocus and groom a REAL republican candidate. I doubt Obama will make it 2 terms…
7) I think Americans were so focused on being anti-Bush that they didn’t pay much attention to what kind of “Change” Obama was proposing. When that sinks in I don’t think people are going to be very pleased – especially when their paychecks get a lot smaller due to much higher taxation.
I’m happy to know you’re optimistic about surviving the next 4 years under Obama; it will prepare you for the following 4.
It will take at least 8 years to undo the destruction of the “superior” right wing ideology.
Fred
I suspect it will be the “center” thrown under the train in this case not the far left. As mentioned on another thread, Supreme Court appointments will have a long lasting social consequence, and fundamental changes to the constitution and free speech will be the methods the O uses to counter the “center’s” discomfort with his presidency. Shenanigans is what got him into office and it will be shenanigans that he will use in an attempt to secure a 2nd, 3rd and 4th term.
If everything I say to you is a lie, then how can you know if what I’m telling you right now is the truth? The fact that Obama said he is against gay marriage doesn’t mean squat. The only thing I do believe what the O and Biden said is that they will stand by Israel(like they have a choice). Everything else the O has said, has been rhetoric IMO.
I’m actually REALLY ok with how things turned out.
Here’s why:
1) Sarah Palin is the future of the Republican Party….Ha ha ha.
2) See reason number 1
Tim raises a good point. The hate directed toward conservatives at this moment of Lefty victory is quite revealing.
Go ahead Lefties. Flail away. The more you tell us what you -really- think, the more your mask of caring tolerance gets pulled off.
Wow…just wow.
The hatred of the left just goose-steps on.
I hope the likes of him never show up on my doorstep. He sure as hell isn’t invited.
In his ranting he probably came close to threatening inflicting grievous bodily harm.
Then, under fear of my life, family, castle doctrine, I would regrettably and hopefully not actually be required to feed him…
00-00-000-000-1 oz slug…
Feed until the threat ceases to exist.
BUT, then again. He’s chickensh*t and most likely wouldn’t show up…
…back to making someone’s welfare cheque…probably his knowing my luck. 🙁
The comments of “Real” should surprise no one. It is no accident that socialists are the original fascists and totalitarians and Real simply proves the point. “Real” is trying on his new jackboots. The good news is that when Obama falters as he most certainly will when reality hits him and his words don’t get the job done, “Real” will end up with those same jackboots well and truly put up his keister.
How in the world you could expect the incumbent party to win in this environment is beyond me. Not to take away anything from Obama, he ran a good campaign, but it was their campaign to lose since the ground heavily favoured them.
That being said, he made impressive gains, taking Indiana! explain that one as a normal ebb and flow.
Trust the structure of the US constitution, it is your friend.
The Supremes…well I cant imagine any of the conservatives leaving in the first term. I am sure Ruth bader Ginsberg is relieved that she can now retire, replacing her is no net gain for Dems and getting someone mor moderate than her in woudl be a win for the conservatives. Obama wouldnt want to push through a hard leftie as his first nominee, not when his win has been this tenuous….you would only get that if he wins a Reagan like victory in his second term.
Who knows, he may even end up pulling a Bush 41, appointing a mirror image Souter, appears conservative but votes with the other side more often than not.
Obama is no innocent in the woods, so I expect there to be some sharp elbows. GOP got beat, GOP need to rethink, GOP needs to begin the process of planning the 2010 election cycle for the house, any vulnerable senators up for election in 2010?
Re the squeeze on the Europeans for Afghanistan….Hah! The Brits will get sucked in but the Germans wont. The Dutch are like us, done our duty tie to rotate out. The French might be willing for more….after that….fuggedabowtit…Harper wont extend unless he gets something for it, nicely played Steve, and that might include pressure from the Dems to the NDP to back the deal.
I am amazed at the left in this country who see Obama as someone like them. He is more Liberal left not NDP centre.
The funniest criticism is commentators saying Harper wont know how to connect with him, Obama is so different…..if it is because of race, well find me a Canadian politican who can relate to a Black American…temperment, similar, low key low emotion, strategic and calm…introverted thinkers….they both love sports, different ones mind you, young families of similar age, college educated, post graduate degrees, accomplished wives… and both have a religous conviction that neither wears on their sleeve….imagine for a moment that the Obama family moved into the neighborhood that Harper’s lived in, you dont think the families would get along??….I think Harper will connect with Obama easier than some people think, more than with Bush, who was too “sales-manny” for “Steve”.
Expect to see Steve and Obama at either a hickey game or a Bulls Raptors game. watch for it, it will happen. I believe the youngets daughters are the same age as well. They will become friends.
Probably the stupidest comparison was to Kennedy and Diefenbaker….there was a generation gap between the two men. There was a generation gap between Harper and Bush….Obama and Harper are peers generationally. Watch for it, they will become friends at a personal level.
“If everything I say to you is a lie, then how can you know if what I’m telling you right now is the truth?”
What a pithy heuristic. Kinda like, if everything you say endorses Republican policies, then how can I know if what you’re telling us is correct?
To the gloaters….Had McCain won 1% more in Indiana, 2% more in Florida and 1% more in Ohio, he’d be president now. Obama’s allies signed up at least 200,000 fraudulent voters in Ohio alone — much more than the gap.
Not quite the “landslide” the Marxists were hoping for.
Let the challenges begin. All the AFL/CIO members who knocked on doors and donated 5’s & 10’s and were promised jobs ! jobs ! jobs !
What ya goona do when they come for you Obama ?
voting “Present” is not allowed this go around.
“Nov. 5 (Bloomberg) — Asia’s leaders, led by an ascendant China, say they hope Barack Obama didn’t really mean those campaign promises to protect American trade. And if he did, they are in better shape to object than ever before.
To Asian ears, Obama’s calls for tougher labor and environmental rules and steps to reduce the U.S. trade deficit sound like thinly veiled protectionism, just as a global financial crisis makes exports more crucial than ever.
“The immediate concern with Obama will be economic relations,” said Wu Xinbo, deputy director of the Center for American Studies at Fudan University in Shanghai. “The U.S. will be less forthcoming in pursuing economic liberalization in the Asia region” because of concerns about jobs lost to trade.”
english translation: we hold $15 trillion of your debt and do what we want or we call the loans.
I am going to make my predictions now, on the first day.
1. In 4 years, no one will admit that they supported Obama. It will be that bad.
2. If the Republicans run a Democrat in the next election, the Constitution or Libertarian party might just be able to come up the middle.
Obama seems to be planning to extend the presidential four-year term in office. After all, this is the only job he has ever had and he’d like to keep it the easy way.
bob, if you are actually a conservative, which I doubt, drop the “negro overlord” schtick.
Maybe there is a Nazi party in which you would feel more comfortable.
So much gnashing of teeth on both sides. Obama will govern from the centre or he will be a one-term president, it’s as simple as that. Americans have decided they didn’t want anymore of the Bush presidency and McCain just seemed like more of the same. This doesn’t represent a sea change in American attitudes. Rumours of the demise of the GOP are greatly exaggerated.
The triumphant left, seeking revenge, will not be kicking down doors. As they already do, working from the Alinsky/Toohey playbook, they will be using all the legal, legislative and cultural weapons they can bring to bear. “Fairness Doctrine” is one example. In Canada, we already have “human right commissions” – will similar entities arise in the U.S. to enforce “correct thought”?
Oooh, somebody’s in a bad mood. Wait until the faux-messiah falls flat on his face and the American people see what a big fraud he is.
Look who cares about the US election honestly. As a Canadian conservative I’m tickled pink over this. Stephen Harper can have a closer relationship with America now. The Bush card is out of the Liberal/NDP deck for good and Canadians are now in love with Obama. If Harper just meets with Obama a couple of times we’ll be in good shape. There is the NAFTA re-opening danger but I think Obama will get bogged down in health care reform and economic duldrums for a while and will hopefully forget all that.
cal2,
I think you’re correct, our buddy ‘real’ has immensely improved his english writing and comprehension skills (including our use of colourful adjectives) – impressive. He has even become nuanced enough in english to use rigour instead of rigor when in Canada – again impressive.
Regardless of what they think of as an ideological victory, these leftists still can’t put a rational, coherent though together when they post. They only become more shrill and childish.
Not one leftist comment on the previous nights election thread had any content other than the expected childish remarks and vitriol. I think it’s time to use the comment erasure button liberally. This would drive them nuts in their moment of perceived glory. Nowhere to spew their vile filth.
What’s laughable though – what they don’t seem to realize in their intellectually stunted brains is that many of Obama’s policies are equal to, or more right wing than our own Conservative government – just because of the fully ensconced socialist nature of things in Canada.
Hell, even the Democrats still call it Canuckistan.
Furthermore, they don’t realize that Obama, regardless of his past, is going to have to govern from the centre if he wants success and a positive, lasting legacy. As mentioned earlier, the popular vote was close. And the red states divide America right down the middle.
All of which makes these hard leftist types, commenting here, perpetual losers.
One of the first things offered for free should be a choice of razor blades or a length of rope. Also shipped for free, of course.
Healing? They figure they have America on the ropes. They plan to send a new wave of carpetbaggers to take over the entire country. It’s ironic that the original carpetbaggers were republicans.
I wouldn’t be looking any black panthers in the eye for a little while. I expect open season on arrogant whiteys. I’m actually glad, because it’s time we white Europians started remembering why we were in control for so long.
Oh, by the way, the ALI_ROGER, real, new, etc. group believes they really helped win this one. I’ve got news for you guys. Obama will not be nearly as kind to you assholes as you thought he would. You’re going to find yourselves in a world of hurt in short order. His administration will be the most paranoid in history. You think Bush tramped on your human rights and freedoms? Wait til Obama’s new “patriot act” starts working.
I can understand the bitterness of loss from conservatives. To get so thoroughly thrashed and to have 8 years of neo-conservativism so thoroughly rejected, has got to be a bitter pill to swallow. And I am not surprised at all that hyper-partisan Republicans and hyper-partisan Democrats are being as vitriolic and ungracious and idiotic and unAmerican toward each other as they all were in reverse 4 years ago.
I am a little surprised though that so many conservatives feel the need to invent facts about this loss.
First Kate puts up and keeps up total voting numbers that are incorrect, despite updating the post for other comments.
I see many Republican partisans making up this “he only won by 1 percent ” or “1 percent shift and McCain wins”. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Obama got 52% of the popular vote, folks, and beat McCain by a quite whopping 6 percent (Source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/), not one percent.
The election results – the Senate and House trouncings too – should hopefully wake you up to reality-based world, not drive further into the imaginary.
Kate,
I’m taking a moment from printing up signs for my new work place, the exit ramp of the freeway.
They say, “Will work to pay tax penalties.”
Incidentally, occasionally I have sent SDA a small contribution. I’m hoping I will not have to ask for that money back. Will wait and see what kind of tax bite will be leveyed by the Politburo. 😉
Let me just add something on a serious note that may not be fully understood by all Canadians.
In the US conservatives have been muzzled for quite some time because the man we hoped to be a conservative president turned out not to be so conservative. And the man who managed to be our nominee likewise is not a conservative.
As a consequence, in order to support the lesser of two evils and not give aid and comfort to Democrats, we have been forced to be more moderate in our criticisms and objections.
Conservatism was not defeated by this election; it wasn’t even on the ballot.
The country is still at least one-third conservative ideologically. Now we will have to find leaders who can articulate this conservative voice. After a brief respite conservatives will be energized by this election.
I just want to make it clear to Canadians that conservatism here is not in the position that Canada was in a few years ago when there were several conservative factions that were not unified. (Remember, Brenda S was vying for leadership of one of those factions.)
Republicans disappointed us in the House, and they got purged in 2006. All the people who were conservative before are still conservative. We have to wrest the Republican Party away from the Richard and Emily Gilmore faction who have more in common with liberals than they do other Republicans.
I feel pretty deflated right now, but it is very possible that from the ashes of this Republican defeat will come a very aggressive, charismatic, and conservative movement.
Tim in Vermont,I was just trying to be funny doing a new take on the Simpson’s meme ,although I think if we have a black man in the highest office in the land. We have to be a little more flexible on how we can say things about him, if only to respect the voices of the elders in society ,people that arent up to speed on the approipriete jargon, etc.
I suspect Obama got about 150% of the black vote, so that means only about 35% of the white vote. A lot of conservatives stayed home, and for good reason.
I have spoken to 7 Obama cheerleaders and none could describe a single political policy that he proposed. They all were caught up in charisma and personality and did not have a clue what he stood for!
Those who do not know history will be condemned to repeat it. A co-worker was gloating about how much better the US system and economy would work now. I responded “yup, just like under Carter.” He looked puzzled. “What’s wrong with Carter’s presidency? He had a lot of good ideas.”
This is the sound of my mind boggling.
Everyone needs to go out get some fresh air and do their Christmas shopping.
I was reading that only one time in U.S. history has the same party one for a third term in a row.
It was the Democrats turn.
It’s surprising that there are so many comments regarding Real’s incoherent rubbish. As hate-filled, gloating rants go, it’s not even well done.
Verbal excrement such as that should be ignored … or promptly flushed.
Interesting comment made on CNN last night: In the last 5 US Presidential elections, the candidate with the lesser/negligible/no military experience has always beaten out the candidate with more military experience.
Clinton (quasi draft dodger) beat Bush Sr (volunteered for combat duty, decorated war hero)
Clinton beat Dole (volunteered for combat duty, decorated war hero)
Bush Jr. (National Guard to avoid the draft, skipped out on full National Guard service with daddy’s help) beat Gore (enlisted in the army (voluntarily but his draft number was coming up), served ’69-71, didn’t use daddy’s connections to get out of Vietnam and once was acknowledged as “Soldier of the Month”, far from war hero but better than Junior by far)
Bush Jr. beat Kerry (volunteered for combat in Vietnam, decorated war hero)
Obama (nadda) beat McCain (volunteered for combat in Vietnam, decorated war hero)
They were saying this is reflective of a generational shift which is probably true since in each case, the younger candidate was always the one to win.
omg, i can’t spell read or write.
Complaining about gloating and taunts from liberals makes us look like whining cry-babies. I suggest that we hold our fire and wait for real targets, not crappy ones.
Could add as well:
Bush Jr. (National Guard to avoid the draft, skipped out on full National Guard service with daddy’s help) beat McCain (volunteered for combat, decorated war hero)
Although I congratulate Obama/Biden on their victory, I cant’ help but think these two will have “coyote syndrome” once the hangover subsides and they wake to see the reality the morning brings.
Kate, perhaps the topic heading should be changed from “Is There Nothing That Obama Can’t Do?” to a more appropiate “Now Let’s See What Obama CAN Do?”
Just a suggestion.
Ted,
Your comment: “I can understand the bitterness of loss from conservatives. To get so thoroughly thrashed and to have 8 years of neo-conservativism so thoroughly rejected, has got to be a bitter pill to swallow.” is one that I really enjoyed. Your entire post, actually, was rather amazing to hear from a Canadian Socialist, considering the ass-whooping you guys take at the polls every single election. Have the CCF/NDP, in their 75 history, every reached 21% in the polls? Let alone 51%.
I always rejoice in Canadians rejection of socialist ideology every election.
On another note, California, a state that went overwhelmingly Obama/democrat last night, voted to OVERTURN gay marriage.
So, it is the far left DEMOCRATS who have denied gays the right to marry, and not “right-wingers” and “neo-cons”. Choke on that one. Of course the lefties here will pretend they didn’t hear about California, or argue that it is really a “right-wing” state.
BTW, I support gay marriage and I am a CONSERVATIVE.
dp sez: . I’m actually glad, because it’s time we white Europians started remembering why we were in control for so long.
Racist much?
Trent: “I always rejoice in Canadians rejection of socialist ideology every election.”
So do I and most Canadians, Trent.
Everyone needs to go out get some fresh air and do their Christmas shopping.
I was reading that only one time in U.S. history has the same party one for a third term in a row.
It was the Democrats turn.
actually I just did a count. there have been 6 times that the same party has “won ” 3 or more times in a row. only once with democrats, FDR won 4 in a row, last time was two Ronnies then a George.
a real win.
The United States presidential election of 1984 was a contest between the incumbent President Ronald Reagan, the Republican candidate, and former Vice President Walter Mondale, the Democratic candidate. Reagan was helped by a strong economic recovery from the deep recession of 1981–1982. Reagan carried 49 of the 50 states, becoming only the second presidential candidate to do so after Richard Nixon’s victory in the 1972 presidential election. Mondale’s only electoral votes came from his home state of Minnesota—which he won by fewer than 3,800 votes—and the District of Columbia. Reagan’s 525 electoral votes (out of 538) is the highest total ever received by a presidential candidate. In the national popular vote, Reagan received 58.8% to Mondale’s 40.6%.
Ted,
What I can’t seem to understand is why you assume that Bush was any kind of conservative.
The man INCREASED welfare entitlements, spending over-all, passed no legislation to speak of and didn’t decrease anything but the nation’s net worth. If the man is a conservative, JFK was General Franco.
In fact, W has more in common with Vietnam-starting JFK than any republican. I guess that’s why all but 2 of the democrats in the senate voted with him on the war and most voted with him on everything else. To be consistent, if there was any repudiation of actual policy, you’d thing there would be a lot of unemployed democrats (along with the GOP) senators and house reps. But consistency isn’t the voter’s forte.
The voters acted and they will receive – with interest.
Well, mr. Evans, we’re talking about an election based almost solely on race. You think I’m racist? Out of all the comments, you think I’m racist? You just wanted to use that word, one way or another. You think that calling me racist means you are not. This election proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that racism is part of the human condition, and always will be. All we can do is minimize it, and not act out on our feelings. I deal with people from many walks of life on a daily basis, and some of them think I’m racist, but none of them believe it hurts them in any way. You can’t change the way people feel.