97 Replies to ““Why Do They Hate Us?””

  2. I figure the cheering will be loud here at SDA now that your movement of “hate the left” has reached its zenith. What did you think would happen after characterizing progressives and liberals as you all do here?

  3. Yes, Peter D. Our endgame is to turn people insane so they shoot church members. You’ve figured us out. Now we’ll have to revert to Plan B, which is even more sinister. Hint: It involves putting a conservative hostess on The View…

  4. Wrong Peter D — not here. I suspect most of us are saddened that this unfortunate and tragic event took place. You can continue to project that we will applause at this moment, but in reality your generalization is not true and not even close to reality. God Bless you Peter D…Don’t keep hating would ya – eh!

  5. Peter D’s apparently in heaven today. He gets a nice “progressive” condescending gloat at all us knuckle-draggers at SDA, plus at the Knuckle-Draggeress-in-Chief.

  6. Peter D – can you say ‘Sweeping Generalization’?
    One crackpot and everyone (in the leftosphere) will say ‘look I told you the right was crazy…’
    Me? – I’m waiting for the Law and Order version to come out – next week.

  7. Peter enlightened as you are in your progressive state, you should already know Mental Illness was the culprit in this unfortunate incident.
    There are so many gray areas when stuff like this happens, it just isn’t as black and white as you put it here on this forum.
    It’s sad to see such a simplistic view especially from a progressive. Troubling actually.
    Are you alright?

  8. It is sad but Peter D. represents the “holier than thou” but totalitarian Main Stream.

  9. “Greg McKendry was a very large gentleman, one of those people you might describe as a refrigerator with a head,” said church member Schera Chadwick. “He looked like a football player. He did obviously stand up and put himself in between the shooter and the congregation.”
    They got lucky. And, Greg got lucky. Of course, the right conclusions will be missed by liberals that there will always be a homicidal nuts among us, that they prey upon the unarmed in malls, churches and on campuses because it’s unlikely their plan ends abruply. Without big Greg’s fast actions and valor it would have ended very very badly. Apparently the guy had 70 rounds of ammunition and was prepared to go to the last bullet before his final suicide-by-cops, so typical.
    Where the kill-them-all psychos stalk their prey is the usual gun-free-zones where the cops are almost always late and useless on the scene like Virginia Tech. You just have to hope that in that sea of cars in the parking lot some citizen exercising his/her Second Amendment right has a gun to retrieve. Except that lefties would deny that chance.
    Strange isn’t it that on our campuses and in our churches where fire safety and drills are a mandate, liberals would never have the commonsense to organize their members for their own protection when faced with an armed psycho. Over and over again most of these totally unpreventable horrors end with the cops too late, followed by the coroner. Liberals never get that.
    The Unitarians got lucky on this one, thank God.

  10. Another symptom of a society going barbaric by the day. Killing innocents is no way to vent your frustrations.
    What Jim D. Adkisson did is horrific, irrational & full of malice, but I would like some more information on why he did it, like those videos. There is a puzzle piece missing here. Even the KKK had reasons to blow up Black churches as ugly as they where, why this guy went after this deist group has my attention if not scratching my head. If your going to go after your perceived tormenters , than hunt down your congressmen or MP. Why schools, or MacDonald’s, or all the other places?

  11. The right wing noise machine has been characterizing liberals, leftists, etc… in an overtly negative and dehumanizing way for a long, long time. This act of violence is just the logical extension of those characterizations.
    Interesting, though, that this guy gets labeled a crackpot or as someone with a mental illness, but I wonder whether or not you would be so kind if the guy killed a soldier or was a Muslim.

  12. This was killing by a man who hates LIBERALS isn’t it? It isn’t a far leftie killing conservatives. I understand it’s a loser who has an issue with lefties and Christians and life itself.

  13. ‘Interesting, though, that this guy gets labeled a crackpot or as someone with a mental illness, but I wonder whether or not you would be so kind if the guy killed a soldier or was a Muslim.’
    Labeled? Tell me how could he be anything other than a crackpot or have a mental illness…? Why do you think it would bother us less if he was a soldier or a muslim? Murder is Murder. Period.
    ‘Right Wing noise machine…’? – do you guys speak in any other terms but cliches? Check your dogma at the door man.

  14. Of course the guy was crazy. If he were sane he would have gone after Peter D.

  15. “‘Why Do They Hate Us?’ It is a question that aches today in the heart of every liberal.”
    Say, Kate, isn’t that the same question that, in your view, we morally relativistic, yellow-bellied liberals were insisting the US ask itself in the aftermath of 9/11?
    And now you’ve mischievously turned that around on us, knowing that it would only expose our hypocrisy to condemn you for posing such an insensitive political question while the tragedy is still young and emotions still raw! How witty and sly you are! Clever Kate! Cheeky Kate!
    Oooh, we’ve tasted our own medicine, and it is bitter!

  17. “The right wing noise machine has been characterizing liberals, leftists, etc… in an overtly negative and dehumanizing way for a long, long time. This act of violence is just the logical extension of those characterizations”
    Unlike, of course, how the left wing noise machine has been characterizing conservatives, right-wingers, etc., I suppose. What a silly, silly statement. The man who typed those words must be very silly indeed.

  18. The right wing noise machine has been characterizing liberals, leftists, etc… in an overtly negative and dehumanizing way for a long, long time.
    Peter, spare me your faux indignation, a 10 minute trip around Google would bring up some of the most vile lefty dehumanizing of GWB, Harper, conservatives, “the religious right”, the “neocons, “red necks”, yada, yada, yada in about a one hundred to one ratio. You never noticed? Please, spare us.
    So, please, take you phoney little indignation elsewhere. It’s not working out for you here.

  19. Peter D: You have handily won the idiot of the day award. Right, the killings were a result of the Rightwing noise machine … just like the attempt on Reagan was a result of the leftwing noise machine. What’s your bloody IQ?
    Where have you been ever since G.W.Bush got elected the first time? I have never in my entire life seen such an ongoing, hateful, and shameless attack on conservatives as that launched by the left over the past 7 years … never. Not even during Reagan, Thatcher … never. From blogs to subtle MSM hit pieces to street protests to riots and even birthday cards … it is everywhere. Sure, conservatives bash the left, but the breadth and width of the leftwing attack on everything Republican and conservative is stunning in magnitude. Even Condi Rice got hammered in rude, racist, bigotted editorials and blog pieces.
    Peter … if your IQ is up to it, read up on mental illness starting with schizophrenia.

  21. “Peter … if your IQ is up to it, read up on mental illness starting with schizophrenia.”
    Oh, f*ck that. Speaking as the resident schizophrenic here I’d like to point out that (statistically speaking) you’re less likely to get gunned down by someone belonging to my demographic than you are an actual “sane” person.
    My condolences to the victims and their families in Knoxville. This is horrible beyond words.

  22. Paul: “Right, the killings were a result of the Rightwing noise machine … just like the attempt on Reagan was a result of the leftwing noise machine.”
    You’re right, those are idiotic claims. About as idiotic as claiming that 9/11 and other terrorist attacks were the result of Islam.
    If I call Peter D an idiot, will you do the same about Kathy Shaidle, Irwin Daisy, etc.?

  23. Sean: In mass random murder cases, Schizophrenics figure pretty large. Delusions drive many mass random murders.
    But, you are right in the sense that the average schizophrenic poses no more threat than anybody else. I too know, having loved and lost one and as a result studied the desease.
    Cheers!

  24. QE: Wrong.
    Murder is part of Islamic ideology. It is taught to millions and lauded by purists.
    Please point out to me where the “rightwing noise machine” lauds and teaches the murder of those on the left side of the aisle to millions of its followers.

  25. “Please point out to me where the “rightwing noise machine” lauds and teaches the murder of those on the left side of the aisle to millions of followers.”
    Right after you point out to me where the billion-plus practitioners of Islam around the world, or even the half-million-plus practitioners of Islam in Canada, are all learning and planning to murder us.

  26. Peter D said: “What did you think would happen after characterizing progressives and liberals as you all do here?”
    Gawd I love Liberals. Peter D, perfect PERFECT example of what makes Liberals hopeless retards and the most dangerous people alive, simultaneously.
    A lone gunman shoots up a Liberal “church” in the USA, here’s the liberal blaming us eeeevile Conservatives at SDA, a CANADIAN blog, for causing this atrocity. It is this kind of thinking that has us facing the likes of Lucy and his CHRC band.
    But can Peter D. see a connection between rap music and kids getting shot in Toronto? Nope. Islam and battered women? Nope. Welfare, alcohol and astronomical rates of infant mortality on Indian reserves? Nope. Safe injection sites and an increase in local petty theft and assault? Nope.
    Gun-free zones and high body counts caused by crazed lone gunmen? Nope.
    No, Peter D doesn’t make those connections. That would take thought, and Peter doesn’t think. He feeeeeels.
    Peter D also said: “Interesting, though, that this guy gets labeled a crackpot or as someone with a mental illness, but I wonder whether or not you would be so kind if the guy killed a soldier or was a Muslim.”
    Well Peter, if you stir your superior liberal arse to do ten minutes research, you will discover that most lone gunmen in Western countries are people with a history of mental illness, often schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder.
    That means they are cracked. Mental. Looney tunes. Unable to distinguish reality from not-reality. Somewhat like a normal Liberal actually, but much worse.
    Your average Muslim mass murderer by contrast is usually completely normal, comfortably middle class, educated and healthy. The name Khadr springs to mind. He’s also supported by a logistics train of like-minded individuals.
    So there’s one more thing about Liberals like Peter D. They can’t tell the difference between mental illness and an act of war.

  27. So let me get this straight. I’m an idiot with a low IQ. The guy should have killed me instead. I’m silly. And liberals smear conservatives much more than the other way around. Good stuff.
    So getting back to the actual substance of the article – the guy has Hannity and O’Reilly books (and no doubts trolls Little Green Footballs), listen’s to Limabaugh et al, goes and kills Liberals, yet you guys see no connection between the way the left is characterized in the right wing media/blogosphere and the killings?

  28. Phantom,
    Gawd I love Liberals. Peter D, perfect PERFECT example of what makes Liberals hopeless retards and the most dangerous people alive, simultaneously.
    For one, I’m not a LIberal. Never voted Liberal in my life. Secondly, I’m not retarded, but mentally challenged – it’s why I come to SDA everyday.
    A lone gunman shoots up a Liberal “church” in the USA, here’s the liberal blaming us eeeevile Conservatives at SDA, a CANADIAN blog, for causing this atrocity.
    I didn’t blame SDA – I blamed the right wing noise machine as a whole, of which, SDA is part of.
    No, Peter D doesn’t make those connections. That would take thought, and Peter doesn’t think. He feeeeeels.
    Well considering this was a post about a conservative killing liberal church goers, I didn’t think I needed to make those connections here. I didn’t realize this was an all in one inclusive post.
    Well Peter, if you stir your superior liberal arse to do ten minutes research, you will discover that most lone gunmen in Western countries are people with a history of mental illness, often schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder.
    Do you have some links to back this up Phantom, or is this just another in a long line of things you write with absolutely no proof (see Great Canadian Debate for a great example)?

  29. “It appears that what brought him to this horrible event was his lack of being able to obtain a job, his frustration over that and his stated hatred of the liberal movement,”

    Don’t believe the above spin for a second; his neighbours tell a *very* different story and the media and police have a well documented history of playing down the politically incorrect aspects of certain crimes.
    He killed them because he was an ATHEIST who hated religious people and became visibly agitated in the presence of Christians, as has been reported; liberal had nothing to do with it.
    You may now commence your series of bad arguments. Go.

  30. QE: I did not say that millions are planning to murder us. Clean your glasses pleases.
    But: The barbarism of Muhammad is historic fact. The sadism of Muhammad is historic fact. The ultra-chauvinism of Muhammad is a historic fact. The concept of violent jihad is also a historic fact taught to millions of Muslims. Your asking me to prove a fact that’s as well understood and known as the existence of Napoleon Bonaparte.
    Furthermore, even the most intellectually incapable person could ply the internet and find massive statistical and historic evidence that violent jihad is taught to millions of Muslims. Not all, and perhaps not even most … but millions nevertheless.
    Your insistence for proof is a childish attempt to avoid the fact that nowhere in any context do mainstream “rightwingers” advocate the murder of Leftwingers. Your dodge is disingenuous.
    You lose.

  32. Atheists Blow: “He killed them because he was an ATHEIST who hated religious people and became visibly agitated in the presence of Christians, as has been reported; liberal had nothing to do with it.”
    Wrong: 3w.getreligion.org/?p=3755

  33. Atheists Blow: “He killed them because he was an ATHEIST who hated religious people and became visibly agitated in the presence of Christians, as has been reported; liberal had nothing to do with it.”
    Wrong. Google the phrase “Nailing down motives”.

  34. Petey,
    No doubt you also think Grand Theft Auto compels people to shoot each other too.
    “the guy has Hannity and O’Reilly books (and no doubts trolls Little Green Footballs), listen’s to Limabaugh et al, goes and kills Liberals, yet you guys see no connection between the way the left is characterized in the right wing media/blogosphere and the killings? ”
    Im tired of nuance, quite frankly if you believe what you just spewed here you are an unapologetic moron.

  35. Pete: And yes, you are an idiot … for making the most bigoted statement on this thread.
    It’s Peter, Pau. Most bigoted? Praytell, what was that?
    He killed them because he was an ATHEIST who hated religious people and became visibly agitated in the presence of Christians, as has been reported; liberal had nothing to do with it.
    Oh thank god we cleared that up. Of course he was an atheist, another in a long line of atheists who kill those for not believing what they do (for the sarcasm impaired, that was, um, sarcasm).
    No doubt you also think Grand Theft Auto compels people to shoot each other too.
    No, not directly – but it is all part and parcel of a culture of violence that is the center of western pop culture.
    Im tired of nuance, quite frankly if you believe what you just spewed here you are an unapologetic moron.
    I thought I was silly and an idiot. It’s hard to keep up. Do I believe what I wrote – sure. I think the right wing noise machine has painted a picture of liberals as idiotic, silly morons who are destroying western civilization. After you dehumanize someone, the next logical step is to kill them. Done and done.

  36. I think Peter D should ponder the occasional Unionized leftist postie who opens fire on his comrades. I know it hasn’t happened for some time, but it has happen several times in the past.
    It’s a the act of a whack job plain and simple. As much as I despised the leftist movement I would never resort to something like that. There is no way I would ever be willing to throw my happy life away on the likes of a pack of worthless leftists. I think most sane people feel the same way.
    We will defeat you with logic, determination and vigilance. Three things you severely lack. Although your determination to get your hands on other people’s money never ceases to amaze me.
    If you had an logic or reason you wouldn’t have to be told these things.

  37. Peter, dude, its called “Google”. They have this thing where you type in what you want and then they find it for you. For FREE! Awesome, eh?
    Oh, but I forgot. Liberals aren’t good with machinery. Here, lemme help you, poor crippled thing that you are. I type in “multiple victim public shooting” and I get this:
    //johnrlott.tripod.com/2007/04/on-stopping-multiple-victim-public.html
    That’s John Lott’s website.
    //homepage.usask.ca/~sta575/cdn-firearms/Lott/multiples.txt
    That’s a paper on the subject. Note the University of Sask there, I like that part.
    Lott’s done a large amount of research into the matter. I’ve read it ALL plus a hell of a lot more, up to about 1999 after which these guys all started repeating themselves and I lost interest.
    You might also read his book, “More Guns, Less Crime”. http://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493636
    He makes a nice overview of the literature, and his arguments are extremely well supported.
    I never write about things with no proof Petey. You just never bother to read any of it. Probably because it would threaten your cozy little world view if you did. I’ve likely forgotten more about this subject than you’ll ever know if you start reading tonight and keep it up until you’re old. Like maybe even 30!
    Now, should you want to actually -learn- something, I suggest you read almost anything at all written by Dr. Martin Fackler. Here’s a great one.
    //rkba.org/research/fackler/wrong.html
    He’s about the only guy out there who knows jack about the actual function of bullets in the human body. Terminal ballistics. That ought to shake your creepy liberal foundations for ya.

  38. “liberals as idiotic, silly morons who are destroying western civilization.”
    Peter,
    See you have hit on a truth here. Your ilk has already dehumanized our society by decriminalizing the murder unborn children and elevating same sex-marriage to same status hetro marriage. By leading the way in creating the current drug culture we all struggle to deal with. You have worked tirelessly to destroy self-reliance and create the house of card known as the welfare-state. I could go on, but I think you get the point. Your ilk is ruining Western society and that is a fact.

  39. “liberals as idiotic, silly morons who are destroying western civilization.”
    Peter,
    See you have hit on a truth here. Your ilk has already dehumanized our society by decriminalizing the murder unborn children and elevating same sex-marriage to same status hetro marriage. By leading the way in creating the current drug culture we all struggle to deal with. You have worked tirelessly to destroy self-reliance and create the house of card known as the welfare-state. I could go on, but I think you get the point. Your ilk is ruining Western society and that is a fact.

  40. He killed them because he was an ATHEIST who hated religious people and became visibly agitated in the presence of Christians, as has been reported; liberal had nothing to do with it.
    You may now commence your series of bad arguments. Go.
    Posted by: Atheists Blow at July 28, 2008 10:31 PM
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________
    ahh, yes, it’s us’n atheists,, sigh, caught agin
    actually I don’t shoot idiot kristians, I find them rather entertaining, sorta like the Buggsy show:-))))

  41. “liberals as idiotic, silly morons who are destroying western civilization.”
    Peter,
    See you have hit on a truth here. Your ilk has already dehumanized our society by decriminalizing the murder unborn children and elevating same sex-marriage to he same status as
    hetro marriage. By leading the way in creating the current drug culture we all struggle to deal with. You have worked tirelessly to destroy self-reliance and create the house of card known as the welfare-state. I could go on, but I think you get the point. Your ilk is ruining Western society and that is a fact.

  42. I think the right wing noise machine has painted a picture of liberals as idiotic, silly morons who are destroying western civilization
    Let me level with you, Peter, you are a raging lefty silly idiot, repeating over and over the typical feelings drivel, sort of boring in the way that juveniles are when one reaches adulthood, and, really, look around, there is no next step as in killing you even though it makes you feel more important. Get a grip.
    Your time as a fifteen minutes of troll fame here has ended. And, to anyone still willing to resond to you, it isn’t worth it.

  43. if two person grow differently and do not understand each other language
    if one person force too much to other person to listen to abuser
    if two person pretend they are ok until they blow up nad not communication they got seperated
    hate is nature of 3 elements above said
    when you go above you feel you do not like the person and continue work or see them and go under skin it create hate
    lack of family and relatioship
    Italian and Middle easter are value to family member alot and this relatioship made them reduce stress
    not happy and get stressed
    the guy was old unemployeed may be drunk and mostly may be mentaly ill and hate house of god
    or may have parents to show this direction or grwo him hate church or he did not like enjoyment and calmness of church while they were not happy they look happy most people go to church look very happy doing this
    West deisciplin and bad abusive language
    I watched the celberity on drug on TV yesterday
    it showed the one of the lady said she had very abusive mother and when she was too young forced her for any small fault go to basement and stay long and never come back I really hate this West Candain and AMerican diciplin who force kid go to your room and stay there for a while and child is crying this is not correct punishment for kid
    in last person with no heart go and harm anybody else taht is all I can say when your eyes cover by ignorance your heart will be get locked to see humanity
    some times the problmes is not the person did crime but also their parents their society thier unemployement in Canda is abusive deal with unemployment people and so many other factors
    we need social worker who know real social worker deal with poor people probably the guy come to recieve some donation from the church andnobody helped him
    the reason in India Hindu kill Muslim who both are citized of one countreis why they did for hate each other to wish not even born that is lack of communication and grow seperately and not say before they blow up
    not every body able to talk or say theri opinin may be theri parenst grow them with full abusive
    people who drink and use cigar and use drugs are peopel who have emptyness in their heart look for cure while the cure is that to drink or use drug but find solution for their problems
    in west if some one has problems nobody helped them they put them under water more and socitey are not talk in middle east one big family help and advice other younger or people in trouble to find solution for them in west there is not family relatioship and freind only for business not for real freinship in canada
    The major is lack of freinship and how to like some one need to teach in this countries more or less

  44. Pete: “I figure the cheering will be loud here at SDA now that your movement of “hate the left” has reached its zenith.”
    … stereotyping this “idiotic” could only come from a raging bigot.
    QE: About Muslims murdering non-Muslims. When it’s the act of a lone Muslim who has a history of rage or paranoia, it’s likely the act of a lone madman. If the murder is perpetrated by an organization rooted in Islamic doctrine, then ideology is the factor. ie: Islamic terrorism, Islamic honor killing … and that makes a hell of a lot of death.

  46. PauL: “You lose.”
    FYI: Self-declaring victory during an argument? Only makes you look like a d!ck.
    “…nowhere in any context do mainstream ‘rightwingers’ advocate the murder of Leftwingers.”
    Gee, no kidding. Way to set up a strawman, tear it down, and then self-declare victory.
    “Please point out to me where the ‘rightwing noise machine’ lauds and teaches the murder of those on the left side of the aisle to millions of its followers.”
    Easy. In the minds of anyone who interprets ‘rightwing noise machine’ as promoting hatred of lefties.
    Now here’s the hard part: transpose that same argument onto your own interpretation of Islam.
    Here’s a hint: Despite what he might think, most rational observers would agree that Peter’s view of the RW machine is, in reality, quite marginal. Here’s a bigger hint: Peter is you.
    “If the murder is perpetrated by an organization rooted in Islamic doctrine, then ideology is the factor. ie: Islamic terrorism, Islamic honor killing … and that makes a hell of a lot of death.”
    Let me say this clearly, for your benefit: that murderous organization’s ‘Islamic doctrine,’ ‘Islamic terrorism’, and ‘Islamic honor killing’ are all merely YOUR interpretation of what Islam is, not what it actually is/can be.

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  49. QE: I’ll paraphrase you:
    “There is no reality … it’s only what you make reality to be.”
    therefore:
    Criticism leads to Hate which leads to Murder.
    You should apply for a spot on a Canuck HRC.
    Nice dodge … once again.

  50. “In mass random murder cases, Schizophrenics figure pretty large. Delusions drive many mass random murders.”
    The majority of random mass murders are committed by individuals suffering from psychosis. My personal belief is that an overly large number of these crimes are attributed to schizophrenics when the truth is that there are a large number of conditions that can induce psychotic behavior. Schizophrenia is a difficult disease to diagnose, especially in retrospect.
    Pardon my touchiness, but one gets very damn tired of being over-represented on Law & Order.

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