A lone, honest Liberal crawls out of the woodwork…
The Liberal Party’s Green Shift announced on June 19th marked the most aggressive anti-poverty program in 40 years. The ‘shift’ will transfer wealth from rich to poor, from the oil patch to the rest of the country, and from the coffers of big business to the pockets of low-income Canadians. […]
I invite and encourage everyone to visit thegreenshift.ca to see how this comprehensive plan will benefit low-income Canadians. I will continue to work collaboratively with my Liberal colleagues towards a fairer, richer, greener Canada.
Ken Boshcoff’s “Canada” would be the one with a new boundary drawn somewhere west of the Ontario/Manitoba border.
h/t Charles Adler
Update: Editorial response to the fallout from Boschcoff’s commentary at the Netnewsledger.
You know I think there is still space for a few more stars in the jack of the red white and blue flag they have down here. there are three provinces between Ontario and British Columbia that might find that they have a lot in common with folks in the U.S. Somehow I don’t think anyone would refuse a new “domestic” supply of oil either.
Ah yes, now the ex-mayor of Thunder Bay Ontario shows his true colours as a socialist. Stay at the trough Ken, you’re half way to a life’s pension in three years.
There has been a lot of effort, I’ve noticed, over the last few weeks, to attempt to come up with an accurate name for the Liberals’ so-called environmental plan, which it has become clear is not about the environment, rather, it is about statist welfare socialism. In that regard may I suggest, simply, that the current snake-oil the Liberals are attempting to sell us be now called: The Red Shift?
If they do get elected, and I think they might because of Ontario, it will be the end of Canada as we know it. Let’s hear it for the Republic of Western Canada!
Wow…this was their plan all along. I think we know what is to be made greener alright!
Should a solid rift develop between East and West, I would see the northern territories choosing to join the West. I think they’ll take cheap, reliable warmth/life over unreliable, expensive, and unproven in a second.
This will only assure the the less-motivate will remain unmotivated.
wealthier Canadians are not simply fortunate, (lucky) they work harder, smarter, take risks and invest. It’s called deferred gratification and financial planning and it worked for me on a less than high income. I do NOT want to pay for the support of Canadians who are not pulling their weight or have expectations beyond their ability to produce.
Half the poor people in Canada are poor because they have gone through one or more divorces or have not chosen and prepared for a career path that will get them where they wish to be.
This Green Shit tax is looking more like a tax on the smart to subsidize the stupid. This is not the Canada I wan to live in. I think the West had better prepare to get out. And I don’t care about trying the planet from it’s natural cycles either.
If that little shit Dion and his pack of tax thieves makes it into power it will be time!
This will only assure the the less-motivate will remain unmotivated.
wealthier Canadians are not simply fortunate, (lucky) they work harder, smarter, take risks and invest. It’s called deferred gratification and financial planning and it worked for me on a less than high income. I do NOT want to pay for the support of Canadians who are not pulling their weight or have expectations beyond their ability to produce.
Half the poor people in Canada are poor because they have gone through one or more divorces or have not chosen and prepared for a career path that will get them where they wish to be.
This Green Shit tax is looking more like a tax on the smart to subsidize the stupid. This is not the Canada I wan to live in. I think the West had better prepare to get out. And I don’t care about trying to save the planet from it’s natural cycles either.
If that little shit Dion and his pack of tax thieves makes it into power it will be time!
“Anti-poverty programs” never do anything to alleviate poverty, they only make it worse. To really fight poverty, you need capitalism.
First off this PHD, thats piled higher and deeper for anyone who knows these clowns, is not in power thank God. Everyone is getting all humped up over the idiot Dions green shift, big deal, I hope this doofus gets in so we here in Alberta can start the ball rolling to separate, we’ll take Harper and start the republic of Western Canada, we will be the richest most innovative hard working country on the planet once we get these welfare bums from the east off our backs, have you people no pride to believe it is better to take the wealth from the hard work of others so you can sit on welfare, smoke dope and shoot at each other in Toronto. You people suck. We here in Alberta are getting a little sick of sending the rest of Canada 20 billion a year and getting shit on by you inbred Ontario losers that vote liberal. Just stick to whining and stop stealing, you can’t do both at the same time.
Should a solid rift develop between East and West, I would see the northern territories choosing to join the West.
With the polar bears and penguins attacking from the north due to their obliterated habitat, they’ll have no choice but to move west. If they go east the puffins might get them.
I have two questions for you, Bartinsky. (1) What about the Ontarians who agree with the Albertans you are praising? (2) What about the Albertans who agree with the Ontarians you are denigrating?
Vit, many of the Ontarians who agree have already relocated into Alberta. Many more will if current trends continue for both provinces. There are some examples of the second, but Albertans don’t seem to be afraid to say ” suck it up, grow up, stop blaming everyone else, and take RESPONSIBILITY”.
I denigrated the Ontario people who vote liberal vitruvius. I happen to have been in business for 34 years here in Alberta, and I remember all to well the aftermath of the NEP, I very nearly lost my entire ranch and construction business, its is no fun to go from flat out work to waiting for the phone to ring. Liberals are the same anywhere in the country, they think they deserve a piece of my hard work and that is bull. Ever hung off a monkey board in 30 below with a wind blowing, that is not izzy money, and I will denigrate any one that votes for these losers because an uninformed vote by an idiot cancels my informed vote.
the LPC have always been all about divide and conquer. Pitting one part of the country against the other works great when you own the newspapers. But we aren’t reading news in the newspapers anymore
Vit try red shaft.
Ah, well, Bartinsky, I happen to have been in business here in Alberta for 36 years, and once in ’86 I waited for six months for the phone to ring too (eventually it did) so let me just say that it’s a pleasure to have shared this space with you, old timer.
Now to Pete, part (2) of my questions to Bartinsky remains unanswered by your response, Pete, what about the Albertans who agree with the Ontarians Bartinsky was denigrating? Some, you say? What about the Edmonton Journal? What about the public sector unions? I guess I just don’t think that it is as simple as you seem to think (or at least as I so think you think), that’s all I’m sayin’.
But of course it isn’t. If it was simple, like F=ma, we would have all agreed on it and moved on. But we haven’t. We’re still here. Yet still life goes on, or not if by some chance you just died while reading this sentence.
There’s a lot that’s wrong with this.
Here’s what I wrote on my site:
Dion really is a Marxist — and a dishonest one, too. But that’s nothing new. It’s just that we now have definitive proof – provided by a Liberal!
[…]
Boshcoff revealed the real – communist – truth behind Dion’s Green Shift program, which he calls “the most aggressive anti-poverty program in 40 years”.
Even environmentalists saw right through the scam that the Green Shift program is when they noted that there were no discernible environmental benefits. Instead, it’s all about taking money from those who work their fingers to the bone and handing it to the lazy laggards (primarily those in Ontario).
When Dion was environment minister in a previous Liberal government, he didn’t care about the environment, global warming or the Kyoto agreement at all. According to his own colleagues in cabinet at the time, he “could not have cared less” about these issues. He still doesn’t care; for him, it’s all about his favourite area of study: Marxism.
And Dion is not in this “fight” alone – he’s getting some help from the “woman by his side”.
Something on Steve Janke’s blog caught my eye and reminded me to write this post that I have been meaning to write for some time now.
Steve writes:
[…] Mrs Harper (who unlike Stephane Dion’s wife Janine Krieber, does not pretend to be a de facto party spokesperson) […]
This is why voters should pay closer attention to Janine, because her ideology, which she doubtless feeds her husband, could be quite controversial – and if Stéphane, who has devoted most of his scholarly endeavours to the study of Marxism in all its forms, were ever to become prime minister, and Janine decided to pull a Hillary and actually take on an official role in her husband’s government, this could have disastrous consequences for the country.
Her family background is rooted in Austria and Austrian socialism, which, unlike North-American socialism, is nothing short of being pure communism. Arnold Schwarzenegger once admitted that getting away from those commies in Austria was one of his main reasons for emigrating to America.
Let’s quote a professor of political thought and philosophy at the University of Vienna (delivered during one of his lectures many years ago):
Socialism in this country [Austria] is the same as communism. Let’s be clear about that.
One only needs to look at some recent examples. The current head of government in Austria, a socialist, would travel to Moscow when it was still the Soviet Union to literally kiss the “sacred ground of communism”. And only a few months ago, one of his ministers publicly said that he would love for Austria to become exactly like Cuba, because, to him, Cuba was the closest thing to heaven on earth.
In other words, with the Stéphane and Janine team at 24 Sussex Drive, Canada could soon become Canuba. Surely, this is not what the majority of Canadians want.
Protecting the environment and trying to halt or even reverse global warming is one thing; turning Canada into a communist state is quite another and totally unacceptable. Those in Eastern and Central Canada who have always relied on handouts and welfare should be forced to work – workfare, not welfare. Stealing money from those who work for a living and handing it to lazy bums is what Dion has in mind – let him try, but his attempt will break up this country’s unity once and for all, and that’s not a threat but a promise.
As one commenter (Peter) wrote here earlier, let’s hear it for the Republic of Western Canada!
For what it’s worth, I’d prefer a PM with a Ph.D in philosophy rather than one with the same degree in “sociology”.
I find it a bit disturbing that people can get degrees in “policy” these days. WTF is that, pre-school for life-long government or NGO work?
I think you greedy western types should just relax.
He only wants to confiscate HALF of your izzy moneys.
Do you folks not realize that there still is no free daycare for Ontario and Quebec’s university professors?
Do you folks not understand that their is a whole generation of librano offspring waiting in the wings for their “gov’t job 4 life”?
Do you folks not want to fund every left wing artist, musician and activist?
Harper has handcuffed any future librano gov’t with is tax cuts. This is the punishment that you folks are going to get for allowing this to happen.
On behalf of all of the trough wallowing pigs in central Canada, I would like to thank you in advance for your izzy moneys.
I recall a discussion a few months ago suggesting that the Libs would appeal to Dippers for swing votes in any upcoming election.
Obviously that is where they are heading.Boschoff’s riding would be one that this policy would be music to many ears.
Providing easy wealth to those who have not earned it is not an anti-poverty campaign; it is a campaign to generate and perpetuate poverty.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/canada_net_censorship.html
Kelly–soon newspapers will be all we have to read!
you know, if it wasn’t for self respect I’d be almost tempted to pack it all in and get in line for all that free izzy monies. Save a govnent teat fer me, eh. I’m tired of being the middle class pay for all taxpayer. Obviously in Dijon’s world if you work hard you shall be rewarded with the shaft although in this case it is green.
Having been a true blue Western Canadian since the NEP days it’s nice to see more expressing their view that the West should leave. The ELB’s [eastern liberal bastards/bitches] are not going to change any time soon so change will have to come from the West. I am tired of looking under rocks and behind us all the time for a future. I say give the ELB’s unhindered access to exploring and curing their and worlds ills, you don’t need the West to slow you down. Go for it and let the West do our thing. I wish you all the best with your worldly visions of right and wrong and the now unhindered ability to purge all Canadian wrongs of the past. Let the political cleansing start.
I emailed idiot boy and thanked him for being dumb enough to brag about the greenshift scam. I urge you to do the same.
Liberal “greenwashing” is Liberal money-laundering.
Ad$Cam is the Liberal prototype; a trial run.
Citoyen Dion’s Green Shaft would make Ad$Cam look like peanuts.
As Jeancula Chretien would say, Whad’s a cubble billion dollars?
Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
“Oops: Liberal MP Ken Boshcoff admits to Liberal greenwashing
Liberal MP Ken Boshcoff has let the cat out of the bag. Apparently Stephane Dion’s carbon tax program is just a big vacuum designed to suck money out of Alberta, pass it through Liberal government social programs, and end up in the pockets of whomever the Liberals deem worthy of receiving the cash.
The whole “environmental” thing is just words slapped on to make the tax grab more palatable. That’s called “greenwashing”.
You know, this just makes Jennifer Wright’s argument that her company is being damaged by the Liberals lifting the name “Green Shift” all the more compelling.”
http://stevejanke.com/archives/268380.php
How about the Red Shift: Librano Red and Commie Red?
“I’m tired of being the middle class pay for all taxpayer.”
Your job, my friend, like all middle-class folks anywhere, is to shut up and pay your taxes.
Do any of you recall how H.L. Mencken’s viewed elections?
“Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.”
Dion reflects those Canadian busybody politicos who just can’t seem to leave well enough alone.
I believe Harper has figured it out when it comes to Alberta’s current good fortune: stay out of the way, sit back, and the federal revenues will come rolling in all by themselves.
And they are rolling in – so every Canadian benefits.
If it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it.
Let’s do some math. Number of media outlets reporting Conservative MP who states opposition to abortion = X. Number of media outlets that report Liberal MP who outs marxist tax policy = Y. It doesn’t matter what X is, because dividing by Y gives me a divide by zero error.
Sure the LPC cares about Canada – that is why they always, always choose Leaders from …. ?
Dion needs to censure Mr. Boshcoff ASAP as his statement if allowed to stand, torpedoes the Red Graft policy and his chances with many moderates who think Robin Hood social programs are obsolete ideas from another era.
Those same moderates may have been a bit sympathetic to a Carbon Tax program but Mr. Boshcoff’s opening the door of the trojan horse will warn them off.
Anyone else notice that there is no branding or reference to the Liberal Party of Canada on Ken Boshcoff’s website?
It is indeed the ‘Green Shift’, understanding ‘green’ to refer to money. Dion’s plan has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with the environment. Read it.
There’s nothing in it about the environment. No strategies to clean up ‘pollution’, which term he deliberately misuses because it sounds more evil than the term ’emissions’. No money for the devt of new technology, the new technology which we still don’t have. No money to use to provide low cost loans to industries to install these new technologies. Nothing.
Instead, Dion REQUIRES those emissions. He requires a large sum of money. Yearly. So that he can buy votes. With Harper’s reduction of the GST and Harper’s reduction of corporate and other taxes, Dion needs another source of MONEY to bribe the voters.
Dion isn’t going to announce that he’ll raise the GST to pay for his bribes. No. That wouldn’t get him elected. So, instead he hides his money grab under the guise of nobility and purity. Cleaning up the envt. But..there’s NOTHING in his plan that will clean up the envt. Nothing. He needs those emissions to remain high so that he can tax them.
Industrial Companies will leave; they’ll go bankrupt; they’ll move to China and India. That leaves the non-moving oilsands. He wants that money.
What’s he doing with it? Bribing the poor in Eastern Quebec and Ontario. His tax benefits, which really aren’t that great, affect those primarily with a total, before tax income of 20,000 to 40,000. For a family of four. Heh.
Then, he’s after the vote-rich megacity of Toronto and Montreal and Vancouver, where the people there are far removed from industries and have been brainwashed to feel that The Poor are best looked after with money, money, money from the govt. From your taxes.
As for the stupendous result? Increased costs of everything, including gasoline at the pump. Increased costs of food, clothing, housing, heat, hydro. Everything.
But, to Dion that is irrelevant. He’ll be elected. And when Alberta’s money runs out? He’ll raise the GST again.
Does any of Dion’s plan actually reduce or alleviate poverty? No. There are no plans to develop employment infrastructures, no plans to develop transportation and housing infrastructures around industrial devt. Instead, Dion is taxing the middle class (there are no ‘rich’ people in Canada) to maintain these people at sustenance level.
Does any of Dion’s plan actually reduce emissions or pollution? There isn’t a single tactic in his plan to help the envt. Nothing.
It’s yet another Liberal scam.
All the colours of a true hidden agenda.
Green Shift, Blackmail,Red Spending , Yellow leader.
Looks like we have to get copies of all liberal riding newsletters and mailouts. Seems they have not learned that nothing is secret anymore.
If dion should ever get elected PM, he would have to get his shaft plan thru a budget vote. And what if Alberta and Sask say no, and refuse to take part. What if our companies etc refuse to send Ottawa their carbon money. What if we refuse to by anything mfged in Ont. I am sure all that equipment, huge trucks, parts, pipes, and other needed items can be bought in the USA.
What if we just refuse to participate, while making plans to get out of Canada. Dion could try to take us to court, levy fines, threaten us with what???. What if we start a Just say No to the Shaft org.
Voting for something because of emotion or it feels good does not make a better Canada. We have too many feel good programs now, mostly started by the liberals. However, some things do make one feel good, like knowing khdar will stay in jail as the liberals wanted him to.
BCL says on his blog that Mr. Boshcoff should have kept his mouth shut:
“What he should have said:
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Get it, Ken? What is written in Thunder Bay is read is Calgary.”
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/
That now makes three liberals who have put their foot in their mouth over the real purpose of the red shaft. (Turner, Boshcoff and BCL) Who needs friends when you have opponents like these?
“Greenwashing”: using the “green” label to siphon taxpayers money into government coffers
Brilliant.
Kate, that term is seperate post worthy. Kudos to Janke (or whoever else came up with it.)
Stephanie Dion is campaigning on a tax hike in the most taxed country in the Western world.
We already pay half our income in taxes. (That’s not hyperbole, that’s a measurement. Frazer Institute, lefties are encouraged to go look it up.)
Currently, as in right now today, the Ontario economy is juuuuust starting to shed jobs, due to the high Canadian dollar and the anticipated consumer pullback in the States. Anything to do with cars is already toast, other manufacturing will be following shortly. Ontario is on glide path to start -receiving- equalization payments instead of forking them out.
Winter is on the way, and with it will come record high prices for home heating fuel, natural gas and electricity. Going to be a lot of unemployed people wearing two sweaters this December in Ontariariario.
In this environment, Miss Dion is trying to sell a tax grab. Not just any tax grab either, but specifically a tax on FUEL. (That’s stuff you burn to keep warm Lefties, ask your mom.) Sheer genius.
With the active and enthusiastic connivance of the Canadian media, I might add. Talk about burning bridges, The Toronto (Red) Star is going to be burning newsprint to stay warm pretty soon.
But I digress.
I think it is entirely possible that even the masses of asses that make up the Toronto population may object to a tax hike at the exact time they are facing job loss, gas heading for two bucks a quart (we’re at $5.15 a US gallon today kids!), food price inflation, and heating fuel double or triple what it was last winter. Even a fresh off the boat immigrant with three wives, ten kids and a chicken under his arm is going to have trouble getting behind that plan. Winter is -cold-, eh?
I LOVE Stephanie Dion! Single handed, our Steffie is going to eviscerate and de-bone the Liberal Party right before our eyes, and maybe even destroy their fellow-traveling friends in the media.
Watching Ken Boshcoff lift up the spin-blanked to show the tax-and-spend clockwork underneath is just the cherry on top.
Rage on Ken, rage on Steffie!
Greed Shaft
Someone coined the right phrase above: “red shaft”
Did you all catch the plan’s requirements for ‘deposits in green accounts’?
Any guesses as to which Canadian financial institution would enjoy the float?
This plan is about moving capital from Western Oil into the coffers of a certain corporation we all know and love, where it can be held on deposit, and leveraged, and loaned.
Nothing else about it makes any sense.
Vitruvius asks: “In that regard may I suggest, simply, that the current snake-oil the Liberals are attempting to sell us be now called: The Red Shift?”
Now, some other wag immediately went with The Red Shaft, but I have to disagree. The Liberals aren’t that manly, and they don’t have the cojones to be real Communists.
Picture Stephanie Dion at the lake shore wearing an inflatable duck and big, loooong swimming shorts, dipping a toe in the water and shivering. That’s the Liberals with Communism. They’d like to go swimming, but they lack the guts to just run right in.
May I suggest The Pink Shift? Its Commie Lite. Same great taste, but less filling!
Just let the Liberal fools keep talking. They are providing great material for CPC to use in the next election. Here is a sample list:
-The center-left leaning in Central Canada, who the Liberals predictably incite feelings of envy and greed over Alberta’s prosperity for votes, can be shown that the “‘shift’ will transfer wealth from rich to poor” will also negatively affect all of them who are middle income or higher. The amount of money shifted from Ontario middle class pockets to Ottawa’s government coffers will be far more than is shifted to them from the Western “big business and oil patch”.
-The CPC can also point out to moderate environmentalists the lack of any CO2 reduction targets or as Dion puts it ” “I’m confident we will have significant reductions. I’m not telling you specific numbers because you would not trust me,”. That quote has got to be the Canadian version of ” I’m from the government and I am here to help”, as the scariest things a taxpayers can hear. I mean the Liberals have zero credibility on election promise keeping (red book), coming in on budget for costs of big programs (gun registry), and the environment (Kyoto – “didn’t get it done”).
Canadians concerned about national unity need only to listen to Garth Turner, the architect of the green shift. “”You might not agree with everything the man says, but you have to admire this about him,” Turner wrote. “He stood up once to the self-aggrandizing, hostile, me-first, greedy, macho, selfish and balkanizing separatist losers in Quebec.”I guess he can do it again in Alberta.”
That pretty much explains what they would do to the country if they return, expand separatist sentiment in both Quebec and the West.
The more the Liberals are allowed to babble and rant the better it is for the CPC. They will reveal their party’s and the Green Shift plan flaws.
I want to know if there is any organization in place or about to form to do something about this attack on our money, freedom and way of life? I don’t mean the Comservative Party of Canada either, they can’t do anything for the West because they 1. will never get a majority and 2. even if they do, they will too busy kissing Quebec ass to do do anything about anything anyway.
I want to know if there is any organization that is prepared to really fight to keep Western Canada out of the hands of the Eastern thieves.
Anyone? anyone?
If not, I might have to start something myself. I think we have past the point where our democratic elections have any meaning. This country is not governable in any reasonable fair way. It’s a regional situation where the wester regions is the slut that the Easter regions keeps raping.
Enough. I want to know? Who is preparing to fight back?
Or will we continue to simply post smart ass remarks on blogs like this one while we go down the communist tubes.
Dion made it out of Alberta without anyone doing to him what Jesse Jackson wants to do to Obama and the liberals interpreted that as a rousing endorsement of their plan.
Or maybe the whole idea wa to send the poor fool out there into the lion’s den with his idiotic plan and his little backpack for defence and give whatever came back a decent burial.
That should have solved the liberals question of what to do with him.
Damn those Albertans and their infernal decency!
Phantom, Vit, et al.
I think I prefer the Watermelon shift better than your suggestions: Green on the surface, pink/red in the middle.
Looks like a big income redistribution program to me and when that happens, all people will (eventually) suffer.
It’s called the Watermelon Shift. I get a laugh out of polls where 52% think Dion’s plan is a good idea. Never mind they have no idea what’s in it, they are just reacting emotionally (and likely prodded by poll question) to do “good” for the environment. Dion cannot get away with this crap in election campaign, where people actually think about politics for a minute or two, every four or five years, then go vote (60% of them that it).
Tories have lots of money to discredit the Watermelon Shift, to explain that we, Canada, need to develop alternative fuel, when oil not used 50 – 100 years from now. Frankly, people’s concern for environment ends when it clashes with their wallet. What politician has captured the imagination of the voter with a tax hike (revenue neutral, yeah right)? Joe Clark?
Reality:
– bad policy (tax an externality, then fail to provide funding for solution – developing alternative fuel source
– poor implementation (use it as part of overall socialist tax and spend platform)
– divisive (screw one part of country to benefit another)
– cynical (send money to your constitutents)
– poor party image (bunch of liars, thieves and incompetents, who “lose” $1B, have yet to pay back money they stole from taxpayers or seek contrition, and break promises regularly)
– poor leader (Dion has shown he is out of touch with just about everybody, has very poor judgement, and cannot articulate what he wants for supper)
– poor timing (high fuel prices have already spurred energy technology, and Dion goes after region that spends more “per capita” on energy research than anywhere)
– poor organization (expect, at best, half-hearted effort to get vote out, for a leader they actually want to get rid of)
Oh yeah, it’ll be close. NOT. My prediction is Dion will see his Watermelon Tax Shaft Shift is going nowhere, focus on staying out of trouble with Elections Canada for failing to pay his debts. Then he will go to his comfortable place, behind the curtain, until Oct 09. Priceless.