In response to comments that the post on controversial statements by one Dr.Eric Pianka was an “April Fools hoax”, I ran a quick search on Google News to see in which direction the story had gone.
I noted that, if a “hoax”, none other than CBC news had picked up and run with the item on April 4th;
However, upon checking the CBC link, I arrived at this message instead;
Server problems?
Well, take a look at how the CBC is now covering the story. (Notice the url for the page is now named “ecology prof”, whereas the original one was “ebola-060404”).
A biology professor has been targeted by bloggers and talk radio hosts after a newspaper in Texas reported he said the Earth would be better off if most humans were dead.
The Seguin Gazette-Enterprise published a story on Sunday that alleged Eric Pianka, an ecologist and zoologist who studies reptiles at the University of Texas, said in a lecture that the world would be better off without 90 per cent of the human population.
Blogs and talk radio programs went on the attack after the story was posted on the internet and featured on the Drudge Report, a popular U.S. news website. Critics accused Pianka of saying that the Ebola virus should be used to kill most humans.
“Blogs and talk radio”.
And the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
(Re: that update of Pianka’s “out of context” statements – read this post by Ed Minchau.)
Expose ’em for who they are.
The last stronghold of the liberal cause.
Why is it they get away with this again?
Well it looks like the man is ethically challenged, a candidate for the disability tax credit; as the ability to put some cogent logic to task is missing.
Whatever humanity is facing we certainly don’t need help getting into the graveyard; especially by government or by half cocked physicians.
If indeed he is worried about his grand daughters college fund maybe he should get them the hell out of his laboratory.
He may have the freedom of speech, but from a self preservation point of view, I would ban the man from standing for election to high government office. Just too damned dangerous, as my family completed our “little tour” with Adolf, Stalin, and lesser “notables”.
Yep, the world needs more of the “go away and die crowd”. Thanks for refreshing our memory on how to literally “liquidate” humanity via the Ebola virus. Another masterrace stroke of genius coming to a disease propagation facility near you.
I wonder if he was ever employed by the biological warfare types?
I saw another report on this a couple of days ago.
And I thought: “smoking gun”… the left has finally gone off the deep end.
The scary thing is that it doesn’t surprise me that a leftist would come out and say such horrible stuff… and be applauded by most leftists in the room.
The guy is as delusional as Hitler and Ahmadinejad.
He should be added to http://www.zombietime.com and spotlighted!
The CBC distorted coverage is an important issue. The fact that a biologist said that the world would be better off without people isn’t. Hell, most of us have felt that way at times. I personally believe that the world would be better off without 90% of its liberals. If only there were a virus that would target them specifically …
I rarely find movies to be prophetic (with the possible exception of Network), but have you ever noticed in the science fiction flics it’s always some scientist who wants to preserve some man-killing creature or bacteria? You know, they’ll be on some other planet and pick some bug or something that looks like a half dozen mutated human organs strung together into some primordial shape? And then they’ll be headed back to earth, and everybody agrees they’ve got to jettison the man-killer before it kills everybody back home. It’s always the scientist that’s hiding this snarky creature in some hidden compartment, or he just can’t bring himself to get rid of all of his deadly bacteria tubes that he has a fatherly affection for.
Anyway, I think this Pianka guy definitely qualifies for the Darwin Award, and the media his enablers.
The CTV site also has the story up (April 5), under the Health section.
Alan
Eric Pianka and Moe Strong, singing from the same songbook?
By the way where is Maurice hanging out these days?
Greg (outside Dallas):…am I wrong or doesn’t one qualify for the Darwin Award after the event (ie no longer with us?).
Any mature adult knows it takes strong moral character to stand up and admit they have made a mistake.So,why then,am I not surprised there is nobody with this quality at the CBC.
To not own up to a mistake(even an honest one) is one thing.To blame others when you are as tainted is just dispicable.
Let’s stop the funding for this embarassment of an establishment now!
Joe Molnar asked: “By the way where is Maurice hanging out these days?”
Quote: Strong: “… one without mankind,”. Pianka’s paypal? Mao’s progeny? Dr. Evil? Oh, yes… Paul Who?s mentor, also.
“Maurice was speaking about the age of the earth, and how mankind�s time on said earth has been, in relation to that age, well, kinda short. �So the natural state of the earth is one without mankind,� he concluded.”
Meeting Moe
Moe5_sm You may a see a picture like this in tomorrow morning’s Globe and Mail. It a shot of Maurice Strong making introductory remarks at the opening plenary for the Globe 2006 conference in Vancouver at around 8:30 AM PST. One of the sponsors of the event is The Globe and Mail (Globe 2006? Globe and Mail, get it, eh?) hence my guess about the morning news.
It�s not the best picture of Strong I took as I scampered around in front of the stage semi-hunched over like a pro photog–you know, the semi-hunch politely acknowledges you are being a pest and getting in people�s way.
But I thought I would post this pic because it shows the stage and it shows how Strong uses his hands when he speaks. That gesture you can barely see over the stage monitor–hands upward though turned slightly in, like he was holding a basketball or the whole world in his hands–was one that he used frequently. Atlas envy, I call it.
I won�t go into his remarks here�mainly because I haven�t listened to my whole recording yet�but from what I recall they were okay. Lots of stuff about technological solutions to problems. He did say he was spending most of his time in China these days, something I had heard third hand, so it was interesting to have that confirmed. There was one line I recall that troubled me. Maurice was speaking about the age of the earth, and how mankind�s time on said earth has been, in relation to that age, well, kinda short. �So the natural state of the earth is one without mankind,� he concluded. I don�t like this kind of thinking�nature over here, humans over there; nature is where humans haven�t changed things, etc. I see humankind and our development as part of nature. Besides, if you get simplistic about the the whole nature/human divide, then you have to accept there there is a heck of a lot of nature out there, in outer space and there�s lots of THAT left, so we�re not running out of nature any time soon so why worry about it. But I�m being silly.
After everything wrapped up, I wandered onto the stage and introduced myself to Mr. Strong, shaking his hand and telling him, as someone began pulling on his elbow to lead him off the stage, I was trying to set up an interview with him through the proper channels, of course. �That�s fine,� was all he had time to say. I darted ahead and snapped this picture. There was a lot of blue light around the stage. (Blue planet, blue light… you get it, eh?)
Moe3_sm So that was that, for now. Maybe tomorrow I�ll get my interview. If you want to read about the conference, go here. Early this morning, a half an hour or so before the thing got rolling, I was speaking with an organizer who told me Moe, that international man of mystery, has been coming to these Globe conferences–held every two years and always in Vancouver–since they began 18 years ago. And the crowd has been getting bigger every time. �There�s big money in green,� the organizer said with a smile. Greenpeace figured that out a long time ago. If there is one thing we humans know how to do, it�s selling each other salvation. Maybe that’s why we’re still here.
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China!? He’s probably cooperating with Communists, who terrorize the entire world! He’s a traitor! Plus, we should invade.
Posted by: Conservatism | 29-Mar-06 9:47:35 PM
I think he’s a lot like Owen Lattimore. A little like Alger Hiss.
http://www.spongobongo.com/her9984.htm
http://dir.salon.com/news/col/horo/1999/12/06/weisberg/index.html?pn=4
Posted by: S | 29-Mar-06 10:12:39 PM
this piece of dog manure is the scam artist behind the phoney kyoto bullshit. I can’t believe that he is allowed to roam the world when half his cronys are locked up. only a liberal or a moron would be stupid enough to believe this destructive bastard and his lies. oh i forgot the world wildlife fund believes him. +
http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2006/03/meeting_moe.html
Garry, one can also qualify for the Darwin award if they injure themselves in such a way that they can no longer reproduce.
I had a blog post about this Pianka nutbar up too, and in the course of researching it found the course evaluations for Pianka’s fall 2004 course. Here’s what two of his students had to say about the course:
“I don’t root for ebola, but maybe a ban on having more than one child. I agree . . . too many people ruining this planet.”
“Though I agree that convervation biology is of utmost importance to the world, I do not think that preaching that 90% of the human population should die of ebola is the most effective means of encouraging conservation awareness. I found Pianka to be knowledgable, but spent too much time focusing on his specific research and personal views.”
Obviously, Pianka has been advocating death-by-Ebola for years. Far from being an April Fools joke, Pianka is a psychopath.
That “server problem” page is CBC’s way of handling all 404 (page not found) errors on their web server(s).
Just goes to show their sleight of hand.
Ed Minchau said on his blog:
Pianka advocating the horrible death of 5.8 billion people is consistent with something that Robert Bidinotto wrote about the enivironmentalist movement:
Ask yourself the following question: Where is there a place for humans and their works in a world where pristine nature is deemed ideal, and the productive use of nature for human gain is deemed immoral?
In essence, environmentalists are attacking our very right to live, period. That position permits no compromise. To concede an inch of ground to it is to surrender, in principle, the entire battle for our lives, well-being, and happiness. +
Here again is Maurice Strong, the Reddest-Greenest of the Red-Green environmentalists:
�So the natural state of the earth is one without mankind,� he concluded.”
Chilling, indeed. Evil monsters. +
Upon further examination, the CBC “server problem” phenomenon looks fairly deliberate. If you go to the following bad URL: http://www.cbc.ca/newsX (note the X), you will get a relatively normal error page. But when you go down into the content tree, at some point the “server trouble” generic is used.
For example, try the link to the current story: http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2006/04/05/ecology-prof-20060405.html
and then change “prof” to “xxx”. You get “server trouble”, not “page not found”.
This lends credence to the theory that someone has made a deliberate decision to use the “server trouble” page as an excuse for covering up deleted articles.
Pianka, according to his website teaches and studies reptiles. The leap to ecology prof is a little on the large side.
There are two serious issues here: Pianka’s ideas on wide-scale genocide, which we can do very little about, and the CBC’s dishonesty in trying to cover up its April 4th coverage of the Pianka/Ebola connection, which initially reported the professor’s preferred method of “killing billions” with the Ebola virus (“HIV is too slow”) in order to blame bloggers and talk-radio hosts for “targeting” Pianka and for “going on the attack.” What utter arrogance and hypocrisy. How unethical.
I’m going to write to the CBC ombudsman about this, and urge everyone who is concerned about the CBC’s duplicity in dumping on bloggers when they (the CBC) clearly reported the same information they’re accusing bloggers and talk-radio hosts of doing to do the same.
Ombudsman@cbc.ca
Where is the list, i’ve got a few names to add to it…..
Off to our left we can see a new religion taking root, where Mother Nature replaces God. It’s been going on for a couple of decades, and Kyoto is one big worship service, or at least that’s how I see it.
Pianka is just one of the more colorful acolytes, urging us to sacrifice ourselves in order to be cleansed of the guilt we’re supposed to be feeling.
Sorry, this is one altar call I plan on sitting out.
Whwere is the good doctor Suzuki?
If Pianka is the “help” we have no need for enemies.
John Lewis: I personally believe that the world would be better off without 90% of its liberals. If only there were a virus that would target them specifically …
– There is, it’s called MORALS…but unfortunately we seem to be in short supply.
Since HIV did not get to Moe Strong and his buddies, (and since Ebola looks good, but kinda rare-until it gets ‘weaponized’)- we will have to pin our hopes on H5N1?
Those who advocate the death of humanity should immediately start with themselves.
Three kicks at this paticular can and you guys can still get it right. I won’t belabor the point but just in case there is anyone out there who is interested in doing something other than beating his or her chest and ranting about evil liberals you can read more about the Pianka story here:
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/04/texas_academy_o.html#more
The Earth Charter and the Ark of the Gaia Covenant
– � Terry Melanson (First Published: Nov. 6, 2001, Last Update: Aug. 11, 2004)
For those who may have dismissed the notion of a UN Agenda for a New World Religion used to usher in sweeping anti-constitutional environmental agreements, I offer the following.
�The real goal of the Earth Charter is that it will in fact become like the Ten Commandments.�
� Maurice Strong
�Do not do unto the environment of others what you do not want done to your own environment….My hope is that this charter will be a kind of Ten Commandments, a ‘Sermon on the Mount’, that provides a guide for human behavior toward the environment in the next century.�
� Mikhail Gorbachev, The Los Angeles Times, May 8, 1997
On September the 9th, 2001 a celebration of the Earth Charter was held at Shelburne Farms Vermont for the unveiling of the Earth Charter’s final resting place. This “Ark of Hope” will be presented to the United Nations along with its contents in June of 2002. It is hoped that the United Nations will endorse the Earth Charter document on this occasion; the tenth anniversary of the UNCED Earth Summit in Rio.
Placed within the Ark, along with the Earth Charter, were various items called “Temenos Books” and “Temenos Earth Masks.” Temenos is a concept adopted by Carl Jung to denote a magic circle, a sacred space where special rules and energies apply. Some of the Temenos Books were created within this magic circle by children, who filled them with visual affirmations for Mother Earth. Fashioned with the “earth elements”, the Temenos Earth Masks were also worn and created by children.
Maurice Strong and the “Agenda”
In 1992 Maurice Strong was the Secretary General of the historic United Nations (UNCED) Earth conference in Rio. This gathering featured an international cast of powerful figures in the environmental movement, government, business, and entertainment. Maurice Strong’s wife Hannah, was involved in the NGO alternative meeting at the Summit called Global Forum ’92. The Dalai Lama opened the meeting and, according to author Gary Kah, to ensure the success of the forum, Hanne Strong held a three-week vigil with Wisdomkeepers, a group of “global transformationalists.” Through round-the-clock sacred fire, drumbeat, and meditation, the group helped hold the “energy pattern” for the duration of the summit.
It was hoped that an Earth Charter would be the result of this event. This was not the case, however an international agreement was adopted � Agenda 21 � which laid down the international “sustainable development” necessary to form a future Earth Charter agreement. Maurice Strong hinted at the overtly pagan agenda proposed for a future Earth Charter, when in his opening address to the Rio Conference delegates he said, “It is the responsibility of each human being today to choose between the force of darkness and the force of light.” [note: Alice Bailey, and Blavatsky before her, used these terms often. Their writings state that the ‘force of darkness’ are those who adhere to the ‘out-dated’ Judeo-Christian faith; those who continue along their ‘separative’ paths of the one true God. The ‘force of light’ (Lucifer), in there view, is the inclusive new age doctrine of a pagan pantheistic New World Religion. In the New Age of Aquarius there will be no room for the ‘force of darkness’ and ‘separativeness’.] “We must therefore transform our attitudes and adopt a renewed respect for the SUPERIOR LAWS OF DIVINE NATURE,” Strong finished with unanimous applause from the crowd.
Despite the disappointing setback of no official agreement toward a “peoples Earth Charter”, Maurice Strong forged ahead, with Rockefeller backing, to form his Earth Council organization for the express purpose of helping governments implement UNCED’s sustainable development which Agenda 21 had outlined. Agenda 21 was perhaps the biggest step taken to facilitate any future “enforcement” of a patently pagan Earth Charter. According to Strong “the Charter will stand on it’s own. It will be in effect, to use an Anglo-Saxon term, the Magna Carta of the people around the Earth. But, it will also, we hope, lead to action by the governments through the United Nations.”
ARK OF OUR DEMISE?
�Cosmos is my God. Nature is my God.� +
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Earth_Charter_Ark.htm
Jose:
Well I’m glad that the Texas Academy of Science sent off that missive.
Now that humans are part of the predator prey cycle of animal ecology; all we have to figure out is whether we are predators or prey.
Doesn’t anyone agree that the world would, in fact be better off without 90% of its human inhabitants?
There are not enough good jobs and resources to go around as it is. When I was a kid (20 yrs ago or so) my father was able to own a home, two cars and support my Mom, brother an myself on one income, and he did not even have a college or university-level education. Now my girlfriend and I live in a $1000 a month rented apartment, no car, and the idea of home ownership is pretty much out of the question. Good thing we don’t have/ever want children.
The exportation of the type of jobs that made it possible for a normal guy to earn a living wage and support his family is part of the problem regardless of what the champions of “globalization” say, and that’s a fact.
Something is really wrong with state of the world. Expunging billions of useless eaters would mean cheaper resources, better jobs and a lot less war and crime all around, and that’s another fact.
Pol Pot, Maurice Strong, Pianka: Utopians? Dystopians? Erewhon?
“…to implement his dream. Within weeks, the Khmer Rouge emptied all cities,…” +
Cambodia, Phnom Penh
But today, Phnom Penh differs from other capital cities � it is a city with a horrific tale to tell. It bears the scars of more than 30 years of war and has housed one of the most violent regimes of the 20th century, that of Saloth Sar, known as Pol Pot, and his Khmer Rouge. A native Cambodian, Pol Pot attended university in France, where his communist beliefs were strengthened and his dream of turning Cambodia into an agrarian utopia was honed. In 1975, after years of insurgency against the government of Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge seized political power in a coup d��tat and Pol Pot began to implement his dream. Within weeks, the Khmer Rouge emptied all cities, forcing every man, woman and child out of Phnom Penh and onto rural communal farms. Businesses were closed, lives were put on hold and Phnom Penh was silenced, as its two million residents had no choice but to evacuate.
The city lay deserted for five years as Cambodians slaved to achieve Pol Pot�s dream. They toiled long hours on the farms, subsisting on meagre rations of rice soups and rotten fish. Anyone who protested against working on the farms was killed, as was anyone considered likely to organize a resistance, from those perceived to be educated (generally anyone who wore glasses), to monks, to those involved in the arts. Far from achieving utopia, endless labour only worsened the country�s condition, as everything produced on the farms was traded with China for weapons to maintain the Khmer Rouge regime.
As the dictator�s access to weapons increased, so did his ruthlessness. It is estimated that 1.7 million Cambodians were either murdered or perished from malnutrition under the Pol Pot regime, representing one-fifth of the country�s population at the time. There was little trust among the labourers, as the Khmer Rouge offered privileged status to informants who would identify those who stole food or who weren�t working hard enough. As privileged status could confer the ability to save yourself and your family from the murderous regime, it was often sought at any cost.
http://www.ffwdweekly.com/Issues/2005/0714/travel.htm
“Good thing we don’t have/ever want children.”
There is always a silver lining!
Rebarbarian:
“Whwere is the good doctor Suzuki?”
You sound a little scared, Rebarb…and you should be. As mentioned in a previous post I attended a talk he gave in late 1984 at the University of Regina. At the time I was a young engineering student sufficiently impressed by Suzuki’s public image to go hear him speak.
He talked about the terrible effect that man has on the earth, that everything would be much better off if man abandoned its’ pursuit of technology and how everyone should go back to living in log cabins. He really meant that there should be a dramatic reduction in human population.
It’s a no-brainer to figure out that reducing earth’s human population means carrying out draconian measures like intentional starvation, allowing a much higher mortality rate from treatable illness and controlling reproduction (i.e. destroying the family unit). Maybe unleashing a designer killer pandemic flu where a select few have pre-developed resistances isn’t just science fiction anymore. It could be a plan.
Suzuki wasn’t joking in 1984 and looking at his contributions since for much tighter social control of humanity’s global progress (i.e. Kyoto) it’s concievable that we’re only seeing the tip of the “iceberg” of the ultimate goals for the leftist agenda.
Fruit flys will thrive in a new Suzuki world…mankind won’t.
Dr. Suzuki lost all credibility with me when on the show Nature . He was discussing primates standing naked in a shower room , saying “Gorillas have small penises, chimps have larger penises and I have an average size penis”
They were only showing from the waist up but I think he was lying – I could tell by his eyes.
In Canada !!, Im not making this up.
Suzuki lives on Quadra Island B.C.
He has a large Saddam style pedestal in his front yard that he gets on when entertaining guests.
I am not making this up.
Dr. Wayne:He has a large Saddam style pedestal in his front yard that he gets on when entertaining guests.
I am not making this up.
Thats almost as good as Roy Rogers having trigger number two, stuffed.lol lol lol
Just goes to show if your famius enough or have money. Being crazy is downgraded to eccentric.
“Gorillas have small penises, chimps have larger penises and I have an average size penis”
so cal2,
Dr. Suzuki self declares that he ranks somewhere between gorillas and chimps on the primate scale.
And he’s surprised that not everyone finds him a sage?
He should ditch the Saddam style pedestal . Maybe construct the west coast’s largest set of monkey bars and make his learned proclamations while scampering about on them.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/corrections/
Mofo “Doesn’t anyone agree that the world would, in fact be better off without 90% of its human inhabitants?”
I don’t. Even with a reduced population you still have the same problems we have now simply in slow motion and probably with a vastly reduced rate of technological progress. Like it or not but humanities long term survival basicaly boils down to new technology.
Our standards of living are improving, just not fast enough to meet rising expectations. The average Canadian family nowadays enjoys twice the living space, has less children, countless more gadgets, more exotic vacations and all kinds of extra bells and whistles than their 1950s counterparts.
sorry I was attacking Dr. Dave’s lying about his penile stature.
I thing having him hang about the monkey bars would demean our closest relatives.
better for him to stand on a pedestal and have CBCpravda announce the old entymologist as “an expert on everything”