12 Replies to “Social Disease”

  1. OK 12 minutes in, this guy states Russia impacted the election through facebook. Is there any point in continuing? He also seems to be very pro-expensive taxi services.

    1. Exactly. He said he was still a fanboy of Facebook in 2016 before that and I said, if he couldn’t see how putrid Facebook had become until 2016, he’s nothing special. Then he says that Russia “tipped the election” in 2016, by using Facebook. Joke.

      1. See.. there he goes again: 46:33
        ‘the issue here is not censorship, it’s avoiding amplification of the most hostile voices in society.’
        Uh buddy, that’s censorship.

        This guy is correct about SM causing harm to our society and they need to be regulated. The problem is that he thinks that the regulation is needed to stop “the deplorables” from having a voice and he’s completely ignoring the fact that both Facebook and Google were in the tank for Hillary Clinton during the last election, gerrymandering their algorithms in realtime to support one political party over the other. He completely ignores this and Sam doesn’t say a thing. But repeats the Russian swaying the election meme a number of times.

        These companies don’t need regulation, because no regulation will ever be possible to force them to give people equal access to their platform. They’ll never be forced by the government to allow freedom of speech.
        It’ll always be twisted in some secret proprietary algorithm. Nope.. bust them up into millions of pieces, as you say, Kate.

        1. // ignoring the fact that both Facebook and Google were in the tank for Hillary Clinton during the last election, //

          That’s possibly because it’s no fact:
          The Cambridge Analytica Files
          ‘I created Steve Bannon’s psychological warfare tool’: meet the data war whistleblower
          For more than a year we’ve been investigating Cambridge Analytica and its links to the Brexit Leave campaign in the UK and Team Trump in the US presidential election. Now, 28-year-old Christopher Wylie goes on the record to discuss his role in hijacking the profiles of millions of Facebook users in order to target the US electorate
          Carole Cadwalladr Sat 17 Mar 2018
          https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump

          1. Carole Cadwalladr is a known loon. The Cambridge Analytica “whistle-blower” was an ex-employee who had been sued for setting up a competing operation and lied about harvesting social media data himself for a Canadian political party.

  2. Social media doing damage to society?
    C’mon you can’t be serious….. look at all the good it accomplishes.

  3. Not everything useful is going to align with one’s views. I was more interested in the commentary on what the companies are doing to harvest data, but your mileage may vary.

    1. Surveillance capitalism was invented by Google more than a decade ago when it discovered that the “data exhaust” clogging its servers could be combined with analytics to produce predictions of user behavior. At that time, the key action of interest was whether a user might click on an ad. The young company’s ability to commandeer its data surplus into click-through prognostications became the basis for an unusually lucrative sales process known as ad targeting. In 2008, when Facebook faced a financial crisis, Zuckerberg hired Google executive Sheryl Sandberg to port over this scheme. (Facebook and Google did not respond to a request for comment.)
      Google’s and Facebook’s stunning success has inspired companies in insurance, retail, healthcare, finance, entertainment, education, transportation, and more to chase eye-popping surveillance business profit margins. Surveillance capitalists depend on the continuous expansion of their raw material (behavioral data) to drive revenue growth. This extraction imperative explains why Google expanded from search to email to mapping to trying to build entire cities. It’s why Amazon invested millions to develop the Echo and Alexa. It’s why there’s a proliferation of products that begin with the word smart, virtually all of which are simply interfaces to enable the unobstructed flow of behavioral data that previously wasn’t available, harvested from your kitchen to your bedroom.
      https://www.fastcompany.com/90303274/why-facebook-and-google-wont-change

      Anyone played Pokemon GO?
      https://www.inverse.com/article/28485-pokemon-go-secret-history-google-maps-ingress-john-hanke-updates
      Monetized by directing herds of phone-staring zombies to locations which have paid Google for “footfalls”

    2. There was a time when girl’s had diaries, where they’d write down their secret thoughts and desires. These diaries did encourage writing, and the contents might be selectively shared with a teen girl friend. However, these diaries either had small locks built into the cover of the book or else they were kept hidden, even from parents. Though their mom’s often knew where.

      Now everyone, who uses the internet, the world, wide web apps F.B./Twit./Google and more, no longer has a truly private thought or desire. The Web Giants have become like God or Santa Claus(demi-god) looking into your heart and mind. Recording it. Then mining it for all they can find. In China, the Communist Party similarly monitors it’s citizens. Then it decides keeping those with politically incorrect(heretical thoughts) in a social/political purgatory. Here, the analogy is almost like a tyrannical Greek deity in it’s capriciousness.

      As a last act of data mining, the Web Giants will be the first to know when and where you die, told by your Apple watch. They’ll mine your corpse for the value of the metals and minerals. Then offer a cremation burial for the rest of the ashes. Though charging your relations or the state for the full cost, not subtracting the already extracted value.

      For those who remember the TV Science Fiction show, The Twilight Zone. We’re now living in it.

    3. I think the message to take away is:
      – they do not have the right to harvest your personal information and sell it.
      – avoid using those said companies.
      – get active politically through financial and or volunteering to target these companies.

  4. Or, go straight to the horse:
    This is not the story of a system that has been corrupted by bad actors. It’s a system behaving exactly as it was programmed to.
    // Team Humanis a manifesto—a fiery distillation of preeminent digital theorist Douglas Rushkoff’s most urgent thoughts on civilization and human nature. In one hundred lean and incisive statements, he argues that we are essentially social creatures, and that we achieve our greatest aspirations when we work together—not as individuals. Yet today society is threatened by a vast antihuman infrastructure that undermines our ability to connect. Money, once a means of exchange, is now a means of exploitation; education, conceived as way to elevate the working class, has become another assembly line; and the internet has only further divided us into increasingly atomized and radicalized groups.
    Team Humandelivers a call to arms. If we are to resist and survive these destructive forces, we must recognize that being human is a team sport. In Rushkoff’s own words: “Being social may be the whole point.” Harnessing wide-ranging research on human evolution, biology, and psychology, Rushkoff shows that when we work together we realize greater happiness, productivity, and peace. If we can find the others who understand this fundamental truth and reassert our humanity—together—we can make the world a better place to be human. //
    Douglas Rushkoff http://93.174.95.27/book/index.php?md5=48AE132B973346ED9451F2BA9CC812A2

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