Two teenagers died in Fort Lauderdale after being trapped in a Tesla car which burst into flames after a crash.
WSJ: It’s prompted the “fourth active federal probe involving the company’s vehicles.”
h/t Another Ian
17 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”
I have no sympathy for anyone who has ever been in a tesla. You paid the piper, this is the tune you called. Lithium battery fires is our strength. Or at least your strength.
Never Tesla
Never a battery car.
If god wanted us to drive electric cars, why did he give us so much gas and oil?
You might have been facetious, but you know, God did give us so much gas and oil.
The world uses 34 billion barrels of oil each year, that is, over 1.4 trillion gallons of oil. At least they have wisely discontinued the claim that the oil came from dinosaurs. But how much decayed vegetation would it take to produce that, and why don’t decayed vegetation turn into oil now?
I believe oil is produced by the tremendous pressure in the crust-mantle interface, with carbonic rocks supplying the carbon and water supplying the hydrogen. it seeps up to near the surface via cracks in the crust. Yes, indeed, God arranged to give us humansessentially inexhaustible (until the earth itself is no more) and cheap source of energy, all we have to do is find it and learn how to use it.
And yes, carbon dioxide is crucial to life as a key part of the carbon cycle, wherein plants and animals support each other. And no, as has been proven the last twenty years or so, increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere does not lead to global warming. In fact, the Eocene, which is the current epoch, has historically low concentrations. It had been as high as 7000 ppm, and regularly exceeded 1000 ppm, without leading to runaway global warming. (Parenthetically, higher CO2 concentration leads to a greener earth.) The danger of 400 ppm is not that it is too high, the danger is it is perilously close to 150 ppm, at which point life is no longer sustainable.
jeez, someone who has read things that I have and actually came to similar conclusions. Terrific.
” . . . when those chemicals come out, the fire can start, even without a spark.”
kinda like spontaneous combustion. which used to be taught in high school.
now they teach inclusion and dozens of sexual self identity.
anyways, mebbe the musk juggernaut will likewise spontaneously comBUST.
Ahmed would like to know if Teslas are available as rental vehicles.
What a way to go for Allah … 6th century jihadists driving into infidels in a 21st century roadster.
Yes, in Kelowna.
I wonder, do new Tesla owners have to sign a document before purchase that their estate can’t sue the company should the car owner go up in flames.
In ancient tribal societies human beings were offered as burnt sacrifices to the pagan deities.
That was gradually replaced by Judeo-Christianity arguing that such sacrifice was morally/theologically wrong.
2,000 years later, the Gaia acolytes, the neo-pagans are again offering burnt human sacrifice.
This time supposedly to ward off the evil spirits of carbon dioxide. The molecule allowing photosynthesis and carbon based life forms, including humans, to exist.
If bad ideas die in the combat of free speech, people don’t have to die in combat over bad ideas.
That is a foundational principle of liberal democracies, (liberal =Liberty, not cultural Marxism)
I don’t believe this story. The people in Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook just love their Teslas!
Once again, it is proven that incendiary batteries and doors that only open electronically are a deadly combination, since when the battery is burning up, it no longer supplies electrical power. I hope the lawsuits will drive Tesla faster into bankruptcy, where it is heading anyway.
In the meantime, a sledge hammer inside the cab to break the glass should be standard equipment.
I actually feel somewhat sorry for the two dead teens … who were probably doing their best Mary Jo Kopechne imitation before burning to death … clawing at the fancy gull wing doors … desperately trying to get the electric latches to release them from their own personal cremation chamber. Pounding on all the switches and buttons. Screaming for “Alexa” to release them and get HELP! Furious that their “connected” automobile wasn’t “connecting” with anyone in the Tesla service Dept. Screaming for the help who were standing clear of the intense chemical fire. RIP kids.
But, I’m willing to bet these kids felt really kewl before the crash … displaying for everyone to see … “look what MY daddy got for us!”
Billions of dollars spent on Safety.
Brings back memories of 1967 and 3 astronauts burned to death in a space capsule that had been locked from the OUTSIDE.
The brilliant technicians that securely locked it from the OUTSIDE had stepped away for more important duties.
Stupid destroys what the brilliant forgot.
OldBruin
May 10, 2018 at 1:26 pm
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In the meantime, a sledge hammer inside the cab to break the glass should be standard equipment.
Reply
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You mean having a shotgun inside the cab! There is no room to swing a sledge hammer.
Also a factor – these are kids, kids do stupid things, Tesla’s have the equivalent of something like 400hp of immediate acceleration being driven by electric motors. A deadly combination just waiting to happen.
Except that Tesla uses safety as one of its selling points. “You’ll survive the crash, but you won’t walk away” doesn’t make a good catchphrase.
I have no sympathy for anyone who has ever been in a tesla. You paid the piper, this is the tune you called. Lithium battery fires is our strength. Or at least your strength.
Never Tesla
Never a battery car.
If god wanted us to drive electric cars, why did he give us so much gas and oil?
You might have been facetious, but you know, God did give us so much gas and oil.
The world uses 34 billion barrels of oil each year, that is, over 1.4 trillion gallons of oil. At least they have wisely discontinued the claim that the oil came from dinosaurs. But how much decayed vegetation would it take to produce that, and why don’t decayed vegetation turn into oil now?
I believe oil is produced by the tremendous pressure in the crust-mantle interface, with carbonic rocks supplying the carbon and water supplying the hydrogen. it seeps up to near the surface via cracks in the crust. Yes, indeed, God arranged to give us humansessentially inexhaustible (until the earth itself is no more) and cheap source of energy, all we have to do is find it and learn how to use it.
And yes, carbon dioxide is crucial to life as a key part of the carbon cycle, wherein plants and animals support each other. And no, as has been proven the last twenty years or so, increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere does not lead to global warming. In fact, the Eocene, which is the current epoch, has historically low concentrations. It had been as high as 7000 ppm, and regularly exceeded 1000 ppm, without leading to runaway global warming. (Parenthetically, higher CO2 concentration leads to a greener earth.) The danger of 400 ppm is not that it is too high, the danger is it is perilously close to 150 ppm, at which point life is no longer sustainable.
jeez, someone who has read things that I have and actually came to similar conclusions. Terrific.
” . . . when those chemicals come out, the fire can start, even without a spark.”
kinda like spontaneous combustion. which used to be taught in high school.
now they teach inclusion and dozens of sexual self identity.
anyways, mebbe the musk juggernaut will likewise spontaneously comBUST.
Ahmed would like to know if Teslas are available as rental vehicles.
What a way to go for Allah … 6th century jihadists driving into infidels in a 21st century roadster.
Yes, in Kelowna.
I wonder, do new Tesla owners have to sign a document before purchase that their estate can’t sue the company should the car owner go up in flames.
In ancient tribal societies human beings were offered as burnt sacrifices to the pagan deities.
That was gradually replaced by Judeo-Christianity arguing that such sacrifice was morally/theologically wrong.
2,000 years later, the Gaia acolytes, the neo-pagans are again offering burnt human sacrifice.
This time supposedly to ward off the evil spirits of carbon dioxide. The molecule allowing photosynthesis and carbon based life forms, including humans, to exist.
If bad ideas die in the combat of free speech, people don’t have to die in combat over bad ideas.
That is a foundational principle of liberal democracies, (liberal =Liberty, not cultural Marxism)
I don’t believe this story. The people in Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook just love their Teslas!
Once again, it is proven that incendiary batteries and doors that only open electronically are a deadly combination, since when the battery is burning up, it no longer supplies electrical power. I hope the lawsuits will drive Tesla faster into bankruptcy, where it is heading anyway.
In the meantime, a sledge hammer inside the cab to break the glass should be standard equipment.
I actually feel somewhat sorry for the two dead teens … who were probably doing their best Mary Jo Kopechne imitation before burning to death … clawing at the fancy gull wing doors … desperately trying to get the electric latches to release them from their own personal cremation chamber. Pounding on all the switches and buttons. Screaming for “Alexa” to release them and get HELP! Furious that their “connected” automobile wasn’t “connecting” with anyone in the Tesla service Dept. Screaming for the help who were standing clear of the intense chemical fire. RIP kids.
But, I’m willing to bet these kids felt really kewl before the crash … displaying for everyone to see … “look what MY daddy got for us!”
Billions of dollars spent on Safety.
Brings back memories of 1967 and 3 astronauts burned to death in a space capsule that had been locked from the OUTSIDE.
The brilliant technicians that securely locked it from the OUTSIDE had stepped away for more important duties.
Stupid destroys what the brilliant forgot.
OldBruin
May 10, 2018 at 1:26 pm
…
In the meantime, a sledge hammer inside the cab to break the glass should be standard equipment.
Reply
——————————————————————————————————————————–
You mean having a shotgun inside the cab! There is no room to swing a sledge hammer.
Also a factor – these are kids, kids do stupid things, Tesla’s have the equivalent of something like 400hp of immediate acceleration being driven by electric motors. A deadly combination just waiting to happen.
Except that Tesla uses safety as one of its selling points. “You’ll survive the crash, but you won’t walk away” doesn’t make a good catchphrase.