“Carney has a plan to bring down high grocery prices.”
Flashback: “Holy smokes — let Newfoundland be first in something!” exclaimed Premier Brian Peckford when he first saw the hydroponic technology developed by greenhouse operator Philip Sprung.
“Carney has a plan to bring down high grocery prices.”
Flashback: “Holy smokes — let Newfoundland be first in something!” exclaimed Premier Brian Peckford when he first saw the hydroponic technology developed by greenhouse operator Philip Sprung.
This is opportunity knocking. Get on the gravy train. Yee Haw!
These ribs present the opportunity for braisin’ graft!
Convert failed pot grow ops to food?
Brilliant!
But can’t the free market decide these things, without:
rebates
subsidies
handouts
incentives
tax breaks
Favortism
Brown bags
Development banks
Sovereign funds
Premier Pekford picks a peck of ‘ponic pickles por pirteen pillion pucks.
…. it’s a work in progress.
Carney’s an idiot.
Carney has walked into a Sprung trap!
Kate, there are green houses that do this already and have been around for years, decades.
I’m only talking Ontario.
I certainly don’t know their business plan.
I would guess that a lack of shipping costs would help offset other obvious costs.
I would also bet there is a lot of automation and mechanization in a controlled environment that can offset costs as well.
Three years ago in southern Ontario I saw enormous green houses.
“In 2024, Canada’s greenhouse fruit and vegetable sector produced approximately 866,484 metric tons of vegetables, with 70% of the greenhouse area used for fruit and vegetable cultivation. The major crops grown include tomatoes (31.6%), peppers (30.3%), and cucumbers (29.6%), which accounted for 91.9% of the total farm-gate value of greenhouse fruits and vegetables, reaching $2.7 billion in sales.”
Regardless, Megalomaniac Marx thinks he can control the economy.
He’s a certifiable nutbar.
Carney really is nuts.
ahem. “there’s method to his madness” (Hamlet)
the REAL loonie toons are the brain damaged voters.
again and again it gets *back* to the VOTERS and only the VOTERS
There are significant greenhouse operations near Windsor. Some smaller ones near Niagara. I think the ones near Niagara are more “specialty’ products, not so much high volume. I doubt it’s coincidence that these are the warmest parts of Ontario.
Greg – that’s also the furthest south part of Canada, Middle Island (in Lake Erie) is south of the northernmost border of California. Which means more daylight in winter as well as better sunlight then more northerly parts.
Red peppers are $5lb at Superstore right now. A pound of grape tomatoes is $7.00.
Tell me more.
Ok.
I believe in free market capitalism.
If these green houses are privately owned and operated and are not subsidized by public money, then fcking A.
If cheaper food is being blocked from importation, that’s all too Canadian.
If your point is the dislike of high prices, I’m betting the Prime Commander has heard from even his stoutest supporters – Idiot-sticks – and he thinks he can fix it.
Anything else?
But this is a government growing operation. Uh, that’s been tried and I believe at least 50 million souls starved to death. But Carney believes THAT communist grow operation … just wasn’t done right. Right?
He’s gonna improve the Soviet model or we’ll die trying.
50% of vegetables and 75% of fruit consumed in Canada is imported; and using fossil fuels to heat greenhouses is simply culturally unacceptable.
Lol.
A lot of the operators ship back and forth to Mexico and Texas. This time of year southern production burns up with the heat. Plus we have the Trump card, fresh water from the Great Lakes and or sky
Ask Grok: What do the various Canadian protectionisms on dairy, poultry, and other foods do to the size of a Canadian family’s grocery bill?
“Recent updates/cites: Up to $600+ on dairy alone (MEI 2021 and later references). Informal adjustments for inflation/price rises put it around $1,000+ in some claims, but the core peer-reviewed range holds in the mid-hundreds. Total consumer costs run into billions annually. ”
Bonus Question:
Grok, name one Liberal economic policy in the last ten years that wasn’t long term economic suicide for Canada.
sooooooooooooooooo Liberals once again fixing a problem that . . . . . . . . they created.
oh joy oh bliss we are saved!! halleluah herr carney!!! all part of the plan eh mr ‘Values’?
In the Lower Rainland, massive greenhouses exist that do produce mainly cukes, tomatoes and peppers for winter consumption, largely for BC. Mostly in Richmond, but are here and there, into Abbotsford and Chilliwack too. Yes, those are the $2cukes, the $3.99 Toms and $5 peppers you see in January.
But here’s the thing, while it’s a mild climate compared to the rest of the country, heating is still a factor from October thru June.
And, most ironically, these greenhouses are built on perfectly fine arable lands, that once grew field produce at much cheaper prices, typically taters and corn, which are grown nearby to this day, along with all the berry farms that the JEETS now own and run.
It’s the Liberal way, destroy perfectly good farmland, built a techno veggie production line, charge 3 or 4 times as much for produce that could be obtained elsewhere, and better.
Greenhouse Toms are basically water and bland compared to superior field Toms.
Peppers are overpriced and generally, toxic to some people.
The Cukes are generally cheap, won’t buy them unless they’re a buck, but they are mostly water too and not much nutrition to boot.
These greenhouses exist basically because the heating and electric costs can somewhat be justified in SW BC because of the relatively mild climate. Try this anywhere else in the Real Canada, where it can be sub-zero for a month or two, or more, and it makes zero sense to anyone but a LIEberal politician.
oh gawd ya. greenhouse ‘tom ate oh?s’ are bland, pasty, sinuous things a taste of styrofoam.
field (or backyard) grown outside are a deep rich red colour, flavourful and tissue like a ripe peach.
which one do you ‘vote for’ Canaduh???
My backyard container tomatoes are looking simply SPECTACULAR thus far this season … including the two heirloom tomato plants. I can’t get enough tomatoes … esp. homegrown tasty tomatoes.
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I can’t help but be jealous of your climate. It was 35 here Wednesday night and my “started from seed” tomato plants are midgetary.
It’s been SO HOT here that I have to water my container tomatoes DAILY! The plants are Uuuge but the leaves droop by the end of the afternoon. And tomatoes galore.
But I admit … I bought much larger starter plants this year … and NONE from Home Depot that have been CRAP. Spent the boutique Nursery prices. But well worth it.
My next band, the Techno Veggies.
Mine … greenhouse dope
My homage to your Carney barker. Where my artistry grows.
Southern Ontario is where I saw ginormous green houses.
Remarkable farmland there.
Of course it was also littered with hundreds of windmills.
And operational oil derricks.
Not really many pump Jackson, a few around Wheatley. Look up the Wheatley explosion. Too many wind turbines. 100s of tons of cement below ground for each turbines
Back around 2007-08 those rainland greenhouses were switching to burning sawdust for heat. Drove the sawdust price from $40 up to $65 per unit. This resulted in the dairies having to take wet stockpiled sawdust for bedding. Defeated the purpose of trying to provide dry stalls for the cows.
As I recall, this was also the time period where the US government switched the consumer price index to not include Food & Energy to some degree.
I was at the Biggar SK greenhouse opening day in about 1995? and thought it looked great, but with no idea of who was paying for it… (“after all it was you and me”?)
With the possible exception of PFRA, every time the gov’t is involved in growing food it’s a disaster for the taxpayers, for everyone who isn’t a connected insider skimming off the top. This seems to be a difficult lesson for Canadians, it’s tried annually yet it never fully takes. Maybe it’s something in the water.
Deflation of food prices? eliminating various protectionist measures? reducing taxes and regulations that are strangling canadian farmers?
no, subsidies is the plan.
Subsidies are the only mechanism that allows money laundering.
Carneyville Capers continue!
Truth gone missing in Canada. No hope for survival.
Given the current “living on your knees and liking it” status of Canadians, the only surprise would be if they didn’t continue.
This massive One Party Liberal State can hardly wait to morph into the Terrifying Totalitarian Dystopian Nightmare that Liberals have been desiring since the Great Communist Canoodler lionized Mao, met Mo and the Club of Rome and put Canada on the road to Serfdom.
But when you look at our “checks and balances”, you must admit the comedy is incontrovertibly hilarious. Painfully funny as it were.
The Liberals had lots of help in their perfidy.
Let’s peruse:
-The Media.That essential part of a working democracy – an unbiased, nonpartisan, effective Media. YOU try holding the guy that signs your check to account! And that’s before asking the eternal question……..why did the Liberals buy something they already owned?
– The Courts. Even when the Liberal-appointed, Liberal-owned Courts defy their Owners(only for show), there are NO consequences. It’s the Canadian Way……….NO Liberals do time. Period.
– The Opposition. There are 2 options here:
1. The Conservatives as the Washington Generals ie. Part of the One Party State.(3 jobs just like the Conservatives- 1.Make it entertaining 2. Make it close. 3. Make sure to lose.)
2. The Conservatives as the most inept, incompetent bunch of losers since Joe Btfpslk. Does anyone really need reminding that the Conservatives are lucky to get elected every 10 AdScams(there’s a forgotten term) or so?
– The voters. It is Canada. The Fake Place. Where the lies are bigger than the outdoors. So cheating is definitely on the table. As is the ubiquitous dumbness that has become a trait more Canadian than Quebec selfish arrogance.
I just wish I had put all my money in gold/USD etc. like all the “Separatists” obviously did.
Or was pissant broke like the rest.
Because your CDN $ savings won’t be worth enough to buy a Librano………..
L – Would an Independent Alberta/Saskatchewan population like… say a 30% lower cost of: milk, cream, butter, eggs, cheese and poultry?
Would Independence allow a zero industrial carbon tax and thus reduce the overall cost of living for hurtin’ Albertans and suffering Saskies?
These are two of many of the Referendum or eve petition questions that corrupt politicians want to avoid debating in public.
The economics are ridiculous. Years ago, NOVA Corporation had a large greenhouse complex at Joffre that operated on heat generated from the petrochemical plant there. If they can’t operate profitably from what is essentially “free” heat, they simply aren’t profitable.
The Liberal food plan will require a new government department complete with cabinet minister and lots of civil servants.
Beaucoup money will flow to Liberal insiders and consultants.
The CBC will issue endless glowing reports of the plan to grow something.
Nothing will even be planted.
All the water and power required to grow food would be better used for AI data centers.
I’m surprised the Liberals didn’t suggest using $$$ to grow frozen veggies in Yellowknife!
But they need the jobs!
When elbows out becomes a bull in the China shop. Err, ChiCom shop. Careful with the glass menagerie.
My vote is for field ripened Okanagan/Similkameen tomatoes, absolutely spectacular for their taste and meatless.
Makes fabulous salsa, as does the rest of their field produce.
In all fairness, the Jeets that bought the farms and orchards there saved the agriculture in small town Okanagan.
Carbon tax the shit out of everything and then subsidize certain people when they can’t afford food because these taxes compound over the food pipeline. Make sure these are “temporary” so the rabble understand these breaks can be taken away. Congrats, you are now the government’s bitch.
Lots of vegetable production both field and greenhouse around Medicine Hat Alberta. Likely does tend to be seasonable as you would expect being up nort. I am sure more gubmint involvement would up production and availability immensely.