26 Replies to “I Want A New Country”

  1. Good move by Danielle Smith; the ball’s back in the Hunchback of Voter Shame’s (Carney) court.
    Liked the “final say” bit; sign of the long game Danielle’s playing?

    1. If you include Saskatchewan,
      30% of all provinces, representing 35% of the Canadian population,
      have sought independence from Ottawa, for decades.

      A loud and clear inditement against the Laurentian Elite and their bottom feeders.

      StatsCan population of Canada,
      July 1st 2025: 41,651,653 including:
      … Quebec 9,058,089
      … Alberta 5, 040,871
      … Saskatchewan 1,266,234
      = 15,365,194

      1. My father’s family lived in Russia and got out after the Povolzhye famine. When I was a kid, I remember him saying to people that Canada wasn’t a country in the true sense. Of course I thought he didn’t know what he was talking about….but he did. An area as large as Canada and with political diversity as it exists cannot be governed from the center….and yet that is exactly what Trudeau (both Pierre and Justin) envisioned because they are both Maoists at heart.

      2. 30% of all provinces…have sought independence from Ottawa, for decades.

        Kaybeck’s threats to separate have never been real. They’ve always been a negotiating tactic. They can barely keep their heads above water w/ the $12 billion (or whatever) they get yearly from Alberta. No way they make it on their own.

  2. Until there’s more discussion and detail about the 9 referendum questions, I’m neutral about why Danielle Smith has decided to ask Albertans to vote on these questions. Is it to distract voters from the independence question? Is it to help the independence movement by getting voters to look at the problems and unfairness within the Canadian government system? Is it to provoke a response by the Liberal federal government and their media operatives? It will be interesting to see how this evolves in the next weeks and months.

    From a purely economic, political and cultural perspective, Alberta and Saskatchewan have little in common with the rest of Canada. We have a significantly higher GDP per capita that would be even higher without interference by Ottawa. Politically, the 2 provinces lean much more conservative than the rest of Canada, rarely voting for liberals since Pierre Trudeau’s attacks on the prairie’s economy. Culturally, Alberta and Saskatchewan share more in common with Montana and North Dakota than central and eastern Canadian provinces.

    Basically, Alberta and Saskatchewan have irreconcilable differences with the rest of Canada. An amicable divorce is the best solution, imo.

  3. Still talking about a new high capacity pipeline to the coast. Like federal Liberals have ever kept their word to Alberta on big ticket items.

  4. Yes… she is absolutely playing the long game. Separatists have gone ballistic on some forums, but the fact remains that as of today, there are not enough signatures to have a referendum and if a vote was held today it would certainly fail. The support is just not yet there so she cannot take a side right now. If the separatists fail in their signature drive, she can still push for a better deal. If/when there are enough signatures, the separation question can be easily added for October. She has now presented a time frame to work within.

    Either way, there will be a majority Liberal government by October which will only help AB’s bargaining position and certainly increase the separation support. Of course Carney will not agree to any of the immigration plans she has put forth, neither will Nenshi and the NDP. A great wedge issue and again, more support for sovereignty. Interesting times.

    1. I disagree about whether there are enough signatures to get the referendum on separation, but I’m pretty sure it will fail. I agree that she’s playing the long game, though, and that having several “amend the constitution because this is what we want” type questions approved will be a nice mandate for when Laurentia gives a big raspberry and continues with the status quo (thereby kick-starting the second separation referendum).

    2. Beever,
      The petitition to demand a separation referendum.
      There isn’t “any signatures” until those signatures are counted, and certified as real or bonafide, and that’s not up for debate until the end of the 21 days period after signature collection has ended at end of April.
      Give it a few days to compile results after those 21 days and that’ll be June when Premier Smith needs to make a decision on adding the separation referendum to the above questions put to the people, either on separate ballots or another date, which I think would be ridiculous.

      Regarding these additional questions being put to referendems, if they require input from the federal gov’t, remember that the federal gov’t didn’t acknowledge the referendum to renegotiate equalization in Oct. 2021 and the current federal gov’t is of similar ilk.

      I welcome the questions being put to the electorate. The NDP and Nenshi are polling about 7 points below the UCP.

      1. I don’t disagree with your sentiment. It was impossible to put a separation question on the October referendum at this time, even though many will hate her for not doing it. IMO, by June there will be a Lib majority, AB angst will have gone up significantly and I fully expect there to be a separation question on the Oct referendum. Politics is always about timing… it’s going to be a “hot” summer for sure!

  5. Beever,

    It’s my understanding that the number of petition signatures have not been counted or released. Can you provide a link to where you’re getting your information that “but the fact remains that as of today,
    there are not enough signatures to have a referendum “.

    1. You are correct. There is no number counted or released because the time frame has not closed.. Until that happens, as of today, there is nothing to trigger a referendum. Personally, I hope they/we are successful, but as of right now we have nothing but hype. The other side has garnered a lot of support, but whether it is real or not is a big TBD.

      Even within the UCP there is strong support for sovereignty, but not necessarily separation. That was made very clear at the AGM, where even with the outburst from Rath, his personally chosen candidate for President lost. IMO, he actually hurt his cause.

      It’s clear that things have to change in this so called country. I’ve voted for over 60 years and it means nothing federally. What that change will be is still a big TBD. Separation? Perhaps. Unilateral declaration of power and authority (police, pension, immigration etc.) provincially as Quebec has successfully done? Perhaps. we all have our preference, but I don’t think anyone really knows what will happen. On the positive side though, I think it is safe to say that a majority of AB residents are fed up with the way things are and have had enough. I trust that sentiment will translate into real change.

      1. I think a lot of people in the independence movement do not want to separate from Canada. They just understand that there is no realistic way to make changes to the constitution or system of government that would allow fairness for Alberta and Saskatchewan.

        Attempts with Meech Lake and Charlottetown Accords to make constitutional ammendments to favor Quebec were a disaster. Central Canada will never give up their power and control over the prairies because they need the west’s money. Eastern Canada will never give up their over-representation in the house of commons and senate because Ottawa buys their votes. The amending formula in the constitution makes meaningful change impossible for Alberta and Saskatchewan. Alberta and Saskatchewan will never be allowed to get Quebec style exemptions because we don’t have enough voting power.

        Besides, why would the 2 most economically successful provinces want to continue to get dragged down by Canada’s insane economic policies. Canada is likely less than a decade away from an economic collapse.

  6. Hmmmmm…Ambiguous. Reminds me of a line from a song …I don’t know why you say goodbye, I say hello performed by 4 losers who really never made it big.
    IMHO think this is make or break for Alberta, being this close will never happen again…I saw what happened in Quebec, the Feds “flooded the zone” so to speak.
    Get ‘er done.

    1. But look at the difference in how those asking the question are being treated by the rest of the country. A horde of Karens decending upon the province will make the local Karens happy (finally, someone who screeches my language!) but should drive more neutrals to our side.

  7. She lost me at the word “within.”
    Ottawa may rearrange the deck furniture a tiny bit. A few morsels to appease the marginal.
    But they will have the same results as the MOU. Mere staging.

  8. As I have been saying. Sadly, this is no different than any other extremely abusive relationship. Alberta will leave on a gurney and not on its own accord.
    I will also be giddy with glee if I am proven wrong.

  9. 8 million barrels per day oil production?

    – Diane Fox (Carney’s wife) is going apoplectic!
    – Quebec is screaming, more equalization!

    And a Heritage fund with $32 billion in it?
    – the Liberals are trying to figure out how to confiscate it.
    – no way will the Liberals allow it to grow to $250 billion.
    – I’m surprised Nenshi hasn’t offered it all up as free stuff, a la Mamdummy.

    1. Canada poorer than Alabama.

      OK, still going down but you are doing better than Cuba.
      Of course if Communism is gone then, well there is always Haiti to lose to.

  11. I like.
    Danielle Smith is a canny politician.
    What does she have to do,to bring those seeking an independent Alberta nation along?
    Exaggerated nod and wink after each point?
    Albertans have embraced the primary question.

    Maths is easy,you spend within your means or you go broke.
    Can Ahh Duh is broke and will never limit their spending.
    because they can steal from the West.
    The theft will always go on and grow ever larger.

    This scheduled referendum sets the date.
    The questions focus the voters attention.

    The answer will be a new country.
    For every tax paying Western Canadian already knows the answers, for these 9 clues.
    As Canada currently exists,there will be no recognition of the disrespect and robbery of Western Canadians by Ottawa.
    Their income depends on it.
    Nothing can change.

    Premier Smith knows this.
    Talk is cheap.
    Her actions speak for her.

    Would any other premier have enabled open democracy,in such a manner?
    Fuel to the fire,she forces the fence sitters to look at the problem.
    And if they pay attention,there is only one answer.
    These 9 questions are a prelude to independence..
    Think of them as kindling.

    Next?
    One question,to rule them all!

  12. Danielle Smith using the Sovereignty referendum (regardless of outcome)
    in order to leverage stronger provincial jurisdictional rights & responsibilities for Alberta,
    and ultimately all provinces when the laurentians’ own constituents (and every Canadian)
    become fascinated by a provincial referendum suggesting stronger provincial controls.

    A marxists worst nightmare,
    a win-win for Alberta,
    and a win for all Canadians, whether they like it or not.

    Next,
    “A well regulated Militia, necessary to the security of a free State”.

  13. I laugh at those who howl about having referendums on specific issues as though it is undemocratic. Switzerland has had almost 200 referendums….they should be a part of every election or used as often as necessary to really get the sense of where people stand. After all, democracy IS supposed to be the will of the people.

  15. Danielle Smith the 19th Premier of Alberta and leader of the United Conservative Party (UCP) since 2022. Did she not promise Albertan’s a referendum? So it is being done. Supposedly there is 9 questions on it. They decided what the questions would be after her Advisor’s & spoke’s people informed her team of what us Albertan’s were wanting on the referendum ballot.
    This was a real LMAO when I read her site this ‘am’, thinking so this is your ‘sales pitch’.
    -32*c, calm, 10cm of fresh powder snow & clear sunny skies & thinking this is what 90% of the people @ the APP meeting predicted.
    May 2/26 is the last day you can sign the petition, May 3/26 to May???/26 count the votes & if exceeding the 177,000 votes needed then who decides of how, when, where, what ? will be asked.

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