Those Are Rookie Numbers

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1. I regard the majority of those deaths to be a failure and a tragedy of single payor public health care, though there are some ailments which cannot be made better, regardless of cost or pain tolerance, or “nothing will cure this disease or ailment”.
   also, I may be convinced otherwise at some point, this isn’t a hill for me to die on.

2. Canada lost about 45,000 lives in WWII. (in 5 years of Total War)
   Is 76, 475 too many? You be the judge.

   Just to put this number of deaths emanating from the medical community in context, since the end of abortion legislation 30 years ago, 100,000 babies have been dying each and every year.
   That’s 3 million dead babies.

   1. 3 million!!! Holy shit!!

   2. I was going to say that. 66k were killed in WW1.

3. I gotta say I’m not telling people how to live or when to die.
   I have an in-law with ALS.
   They’re going to die and the decline has not been pretty.
   When they got the news they applied for it.
   One of the by-products of modern medicine may be prolonged life, but not necessarily a better one.

   1. Lost a good friend to ALS two years ago. Went MAID.

4. Most don’t have a clue that the drugs used in MAID paralyzes the person while the drug used to actually kill the patient is akin to drowning. The victim appears to be calm and die peacefully, but I have never heard or seen a person drown “peacefully”.

   MAID is legalized torture with a smile and a wink from the sadistic medical cartel.

5. When I was in my early teens, my first socio-political argument was based on this specific topic. To be more precise, it was founded on a public debate that had been stirred up by the Raquel Welch TV movie of the time: Right to Die (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Die_(film))

   I remember making the argument that we can never allow ourselves to get to the point of where we say “euthanasia is societally and legally acceptable.” This is especially true if the government is the decision maker and the primary funder of our supposed “health care system.”

   I conceded that, in cases where the patient is dealing with something “extreme” like ALS (as was the case in the movie), I would not want to see any doctor who assisted in their patient’s death sentenced to prison…but they still had to be charged. Then the prosecutor could “lose the paperwork” or allow for some other technicality that would get the doctor off and let them go free. Parenthetically, this was the “normal” back then and happened quite frequently. It just wasn’t promoted as a “good” like it is today…and the government wasn’t involved. It truly was between the patient, the doctor, and the doctor’s conscience. It wasn’t an idustry unto itself.

   I still maintain that, in a healthy society, euthanasia must still be officially regarded as “wrong.”

   Because, the second you make it legal (and, in Canada’s case, even promoted), you head down the road to Hell – with patients who would not otherwise feel so desparate feeling pressured to “not be a burden”…coupled with bureaucrats in “the system” trying to keep up with their boat payments.

   Four years ago, a cousin of mine decided to have her life ended with MAID. Her illness was also ALS. I’ve concluded that I cannot condemn her for her choice. I just regret that the fact that the choice being legally there is considered, by a majority of my countrymen, to be a “good” thing.

   That’s the crack in the door that our evil government uses as a justification for trimming down the costs of our vaunted health care system by killing rather than reforming (privatizing) it.

   They’ve convinced the majority that this is somehow positive. “Dying with dignity”…as if any government worker cares about your dignity.

6. Aktion T4 killed between 250,000 and 300,000 people. So Canada has a way to go to catch up to its heroes.

7. I don’t know. Have faith in the law of unintended consequences. Remember the furor over police body cameras? Well, this seems to have lead to something called ‘black fatigue’. I wonder what is down stream of MAID? For that matter, what does ‘manifest destiny’ lead to, politics wise? We sure do live in interesting times.

8. How many street drug related deaths? Consumption, murder, the regular causes.

   1. I have less issue with making the choice to end your life, but larger concerns about having doctors as death providers, the drugs used, and then the requirement of immediate organ harvesting.

9. Because MAiD and the weakness of our single payer health system are related….
   Any time someone dares to float the idea of a parallel private system alongside our public system, the Usual Suspects scream “American-style Health Care!” thereby invoking the predictable anti-American vitriol so embedded in the Canadian identity.
   Little dog syndrome unleashed again.
   BUT…most democracies in the world have those parallel systems in place. If we were to label having 2 systems as “European” or “Australian” can you imagine the oohing and aahing from our leftie media and liv voters? American = bad…European = good.
   Actual reasoning = beyond the average Canadian voter.
   We need to adopt the marketing tactic of dealing only with the image of a product. Forget facts. Brand it as European, and our govts will be falling over themselves to implement it.
   Just a thought. Wishful thinking this morning.

10. I’m sure they’re working hard to get those numbers up. But it’s government, so “working hard” is a relative term.

    Honestly, if somebody wants to shuffle off this mortal coil, there’s not much I’m able to do about it. They’re grown ups, they’re going to decide for themselves no matter what I say.

    But I’m being dragged in as an accomplice and made to PAY for it. I have a big problem with that.

11. Kanada. A land where a soldier is convicted of murder for putting a consenting enemy combatant out of his misery in the aftermath of a battle in a foreign land. Yet the government puts down its own citizens regularly without any distress to its conscience.

12. Dying has always been the easy path.
    Life,being a sexually transmitted terminal dis-ease.., kills you.
    Bureaucratic assistance to die,is the psychopaths heaven.
    The number of reasons,an enfeebled tax payer should die,are endless.
    Just ask a “Healthcare official”.

    You do not give such power into the hands of natural minions.
    Those who lust for power are always unfit to wield it.

    Government is and was the number one cause of death ,in this quarter century and in the past full one.

    Combining murder by bureaucrat,with bureaucratic run “healthcare” is guaranteed to become an ugly cesspit,where those who lack all morals,ethics and judgement,will cheer themselves on,as the boast of the “cost savings” for the “System”.
    Just as our “Free Healthcare System” has become a murderous mess,where the payers benefit with long waits equal to service denial..But the paid are paid very well ,to feather their own nests..
    An extremely expensive system with zero incentive to provide medical care..

    Tommy Douglas needs dug up and re-elected..
    A Zombie leader for a zombie cause.
    Everyone who knew human nature predicted unionized care and death care..
    Because that is how bureaus roll.
    So MAID..Government once again takes the easy path,that of evil.
    Because it is “cost effective”.
    And provides wonderful cover for the obvious,the systemic failure of government run public healthcare.

13. First it’s voluntary then it’s mandatory. Soylent green is people.
    I got out of Canada before the inevitable.