We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars

Alternative Subsidy Roadkill 68 Comments

Ford EV sales “fall off a cliff”.

The left spent the last 20 years pushing electric cars as a moral imperative. Once the batsignal went out that was okay to torch and vandalize Musk’s cars because they don’t like the cut of his jib, that also signaled that earlier moral imperative has been concluded. Why would anyone go through the headache of owning an electric car when its true believers hate one of its most prominent manufacturers?

68 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

  1. Reminiscent of Animal Farm where the revolutionary slogan “Four legs good, two legs bad” used against the human oppressors became “Four legs good, two legs better” once the pigs began to walk on 2 legs and became the new oppressors.

    1. The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. –

      H. L. Mencken

  2. The Musk/Tesla factor making sales of EV’s disappearing is minimal in my view…the word is now out and spreading: EV’s are impractical and have too many negatives compared to positive…one example that few know is tire wear. An EV’s constant heavy weight (huge battery packs are heavy) compared to an internal combustion wears tires twice as fast. At least IC gets lighter as it uses its fuel.

      1. I’m sure the torque is a factor too. Also they suck in snow because of the even distribution of weight across the vehicle

          1. Yep. The Porsche 928, and IIRC the 944 and 924 all put the tranny in the rear to get that perfect 50/50 weight distribution.

    2. Your talking points are stale and wrong. EVs stopped sucking years ago and that’s why there is more and more of them and it’s not slowing down. See below

      1. You want to buy an EV? Fine. Just don’t force the rest of us to buy one. (See below!)

      2. Har har!
        8x More full sized pickup trucks are sold every year than all types of EV combined!

      3. When EV owners have to protest so much that they made a good choice then you know it was probably a bad choice. If it were not a poor choice, we would not need mandates to buy them . People tend to gravitate voluntarily to new and better technology. Just look at the fast marketing of computers and cell phones. The need for a mandate damns them as a bad choice and sales are falling. There likely is a niche market for them if you can stomach the initial price but thats about it unless they improve. The time spent recharging is enough to turn me away and faster charging at home is just another extra expense

        1. No that’s not how it works. You’re just muddling things again. ‘EV owners’ and myself are protesting silly and unfair critiques of EVs. Politicians are doing what they do and meddling in what they don’t understand. They also subsidize broadband rollout, that doesn’t damn broadband as a bad choice.

          1. MY broadband has never been subsidized. Not one red cent. You know whose broadband HAS been subsidized? Yeah … rural areas … the areas you just mocked on this page today … because the expenses to provide it don’t get covered by the few paying customers.

    3. I remember a CBC story that came out many, many months ago about one gal’s experience owning an EV. The lead-in to the story went something like this: “I love my EV but I didn’t reañize my whole life would revolve around charging it.”

      1. There is some cognitive dissonance on display. I love my EV, but it has compromised my life. I usually save my love for things that improve my life.

    4. Right Metalguru, and most people also don’t realize that multi-story parking garages except maybe very new ones were not designed to support up to 1,000 pound extra average vehicle weight due to the EV battery. Also, it appears that in terms of CO2 emissions in the life cycle of an EV vs a diesel, the EV isn’t “Greener” until the two vehicles reach around 125,000 Km. That is due to the huge emissions involved in acquiring and processing the EV battery component materials. At the CO2 break even point , the battery has about 40% of its life remaining and may need to be replaced at around 200,000Km. Replacement of the battery will result in another huge surge in CO2 emissions and maybe $15 to 20K cost. If the battery is not replaced, the EV resale value is basically zero and there is the environmental and cost issue of disposing of the battery. Meanwhile many diesel vehicles will still keep chugging along well beyond 200,000 Km. (The EV Vs diesel comparison was from a Volkswagen study comparing a VW Golf diesel and an E Golf.)

  3. so many of the pyromaniacs and key scratchers, not owning a unit, didnt know about the cameras eh? kinda easy to ID when theyre looking right at the door handle/lens

    heh heh heh.

    when l sell my place lm getting either a window van or maybe a crew cab pickup for my 3 doggies, part matiffs, daddy and a brother and sister. 400 pound of canine.

    and THEN *lm* getting dashcam, etc and house surveillance and vpn lots of security in the now presnet and worsening personal safety and security situation.

        1. There are two VPN services that I know of that are OK:
          1. Mullvad VPN.
          2. Proton VPN.

  5. “Nearly 300,000 new electric vehicles (EVs) were sold in the first quarter of 2025 in the U.S., according to the latest report from Kelley Blue Book, an increase of 11.4% year over year. Despite many obstacles — and what you may read elsewhere — electric-vehicle sales continue to grow at a healthy pace in the U.S. market. Roughly 7.5% of total new-vehicle sales in the first quarter were electric vehicles, an increase from 7% a year earlier.”

    https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q1-2025-ev-sales/

    So much for that narrative. EVs would be doing even better if not for asinine tariffs.

    1. Fine, UnReal. Have a nice drive through the prairies with one of them thar EV’s in the middle of January.
      Go on… I dares ya. I double-dares ya… I dogon, triple-dares ya!.
      See how far you’ll get.

      I tell ya right now without the proper infrastructure in place, EV’s are nothing but very heavy paperweights, and it’ll take far beyond 2035 to get that kind of infrastructure in place in the rural prairies. EV’s are totally impractical for the many kilometers of rural driving you are required to do in SK, where I had to commute 50 km one way just to get to my part-time job.

      1. Thankfully, driving through rural anywhere does not interest me.

        “I had to commute 50 km one way just to get to my part-time job.”

        Good lord, just move already.

        1. I already have! Haven’t you been paying attention? I’m in Alberta now, but that’s no reason for you to poo-poo all over SK just because, as you seem to be suggesting, they’re not as sophisticated as you are.

          So…UnReal… You’re willing to allow an entire province suffer, because it doesn’t live up to your posh living standards, eh? Good to know!

          (yeah… that’s one sure way to make friends, Mrs. Drysdale!)

          If the house I bought in SK wasn’t such a disappointment, I probably would have toughed it out and stayed in SK.

    2. The tariffs just started and the effects haven’t been felt yet. Once again, you prove that you are ideologically driven and your beliefs can be discredited.

      1. Pretty sure Canada’s tariffs on BYD were already in effect. In any event it’s really not hard to predict what they do: raise prices, weaken competition and choice. We have centuries of data.

    3. “Nearly 300,000 new electric vehicles (EVs) were sold in the first quarter of 2025 in the U.S…”
      So, less than 1% of vehicle sales.
      Har har!

  6. You want to build them, go ahead. Just don’t be a subsidy parasite.

    You want to buy one, go ahead. Just don’t be a subsidy parasite.

    1. One of my wealthy liberal neighbours complained and was disgusted with the fact that provincial and federal subsidies were removed for electric vehicles after I questioned and congratulated him on the purchase of his wife’s new Audi Q8. I agreed and demanded that the government force poorer and lower classes to help subsidize and pay for the upper class wealthy families to buy cars. He couldn’t retort.

  7. L- “… extended exposure to cognitive dissonance ignites an initial emotional reaction that is
    then mediated by the rational process. If no rationalization can be made then or, if the emotional reaction cannot be effectively controlled by the individual. Then the initial emotional reaction may grow more powerful resulting in mood regulation disorders such as depression, anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder.”

    When those who believed and trusted gov’t. Institutions come to finally see it broken.
    Their faith in an all powerful government is exposed as the false god it always was. That sect
    of society may rent their clothing, set their hair on fire and cover themselves in the ashes of
    their false beliefs.

    The more resilient need to stay calm, defend free speech and talk the others off the ledge.

  8. I don’t dislike EVs, I just don’t want them to be the only option and I don’t want one as my only vehicle. I prefer an IC vehicle for long trips due to the ease of refueling.

    I would be fine with an EV for regular daily driving. I am thinking that if the prices drop and a good deal can be had, I would get one. I only need about 100 miles of range daily. I can easily charge it overnight.

    I already have 5 cars for my household. One or two EVs would be okay.

  9. Watch for the Carney and Ford government to make announcements -soon – on their huge investments in EV s to ‘revitalize’ the auto industry in Ontario. Then watch – not too much later – the inevitable bankruptcies….

    1. Ontario taxpayers could pay to build EV’s and then pay to build a recycling plant right beside it!

      Savings in shipping costs alone would have it paying for itself instantly! Tell Slug Ford quick!

  11. The EV market is a market artificially built by fools, to cater to fools. Even if range, charging time and battery capacity increases around 20 fold, even then, ICE cars are inherently safer: Another word for a battery with 20x more energy density is “bomb.”

    1. I’m guessing you do not in fact have the statistics to back that up.

      Also lol at ‘bomb’ every car on the road is full of highly flammable liquid.

      1. Oh look, a moron who doesn’t know what “oxidizer” means!
        Har har!

          1. Yes. Your detailed expertise in gender studies and interpretive lesbian dance shines through with every post you make.
            Har har!

          2. lol, it’s not like you could hide your contempt; something you’re not quite educated enough to do. That’s why you post such elitist drivel.

      2. “Also lol at ‘bomb’ every car on the road is full of highly flammable liquid.”

        It’s funny though, even old, badly maintained junkers don’t explode, burst into flame or otherwise go on fire even in serious collisions. If they do its because the vehicle was essentially destroyed in the collision.

        By contrast, EVs commonly go on fire sitting still in the driveway…
        … and if Teslas do that, I can hardly wait to see BYD cars. They’ll be blowing up at the dealership before they’re even sold.

        And no, we do not search out statistics for Un-brain the vexatious Chinese propaganda agent. Say hi to Winnie the Pooh for me bro.

        1. You don’t search out stats or facts at all because they vex your silly narratives.

          “Kelly Blue Book reported on findings from a study that shows EV are actually less likely to cause or be involved in fires than gasoline-powered or hybrid vehicles.1 Data from the National Transportation Safety Board showed that EVs were involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles were involved in fires for every 100,000 sold.”

          https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/environment-energy-coordination/climate-matters/EV-less-fire-risk

          And they’re only getting better and better.

          1. UnMe tries to convince folk with disinformation stats dredged up from the deepest part of the DC swamp during the Biden admin!
            Biden’s “Office of Environmental and Energy Coordination” no less!
            Mainlining lefty propaganda AND copium! The UnMe speedball!
            Har Har!

          2. Cite all the stats you want, but I’ve NEVER seen an ICE vehicle explode just sitting on a driveway.

          4. Oh, UnReal! I don’t care where you got the stats from! I’m asking you… Have YOU seen an ICE vehicle blow up just sitting in a driveway, or otherwise in park?

            HAVE YOU?

            If so, I’d like to see that vid. If not, then you know what you can do with your “stats” and your biased sources.

  12. When are EV owners going to pay their share of road tax?????????????????????

      1. What EV owners are stupid enough to inflict on themselves is their business. If they choose to follow UM and jump off a cliff, they have no reason to expect anyone will join them. We can simply smile and wave bye-bye on their way down.

      2. “EV owners are already paying a huge stupid tax.”

        And ICE owners are already paying heavy gas taxes…have been for decades.

      3. “EV owners are already paying a huge stupid tax.”

        While the vast majority of us who own ICE vehicles have been paying heavy gasoline taxes for decades to maintain and build the roads we drive on.

  13. Look guys. On a somewhat similarly charged subject. If you don’t quit peeling your gear off for unme, he’s going to die from a build-up of static electricity from furiously stroking his lttle ebonite rod with cat’s fur.

    1. Well Jamie, the guy????is entertaining, if nothing else.
      Whines about his/her education, kinda like cghCOLON.

      1. Yeah, remarkable how he never got a driver’s license out of that education, isn’t it?

        1. “Yeah, remarkable how he never got a driver’s license out of that education, isn’t it?”

          If he is really of the ‘educated classes’, shouldn’t he be aware that everyone here considers him to be a laughingstock?

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